The sickness of modern life.

The Sun King

Some of you may have heard about the young girl who sang a song on the Toy Show the other night.

"my little pony,
skinny and bony,
went to the stable,
to die on a table."

Some sections of Irish society were so enraged by this six year olds song, which is as old as the hills apparently, that they took to social media to abuse her and her family.

Her father reported racist and paedophilic remarks being posted about her.

In what world does a six year old singing a song deserve any abuse, never mind abuse of that nature?

When I was young we used to catch worse things by the toe. Meant no harm by it and had no clue what it meant.

Are people so fragile and hypocritical that they will attack a six year old over an imaginary horse? I fear for the future.

kfallon

Some people are just absolute thick cúnts!

Sam Kade

It's gone from one extreme to the other.

mr.anonymous

Complete ignorance regarding the context in which things are said.

A university professor in the USA had to apologise for saying "all lives matter" recently when people were saying "black lives matter" following shootings.

Everyone thinks they have the right to be offended and viciously oppose people who don't think exactly like them. It's frustrating and paralyses debate.

cassid

My eldest went to his grand dad to watch the late late and he came back singing that, he was impressed and had the others who fell asleep singing it the next day. Its like yum yum pigs bum cabbage and potatoes, something harmless kids sing

biko

http://www.thejournal.ie/my-little-pony-late-late-toy-show-2476074-Dec2015/

I didn't watch the show, cause it's ****, but the abuse seems totally out of proportion. It's just a little girl singing a song.

People are idiots.

Hammer89

The Sun King wrote: »

When I was young we used to catch worse things by the toe. Meant no harm by it and had no clue what it meant.

I love this. Excellent point overall.

fleet_admiral

Didnt see the late late toy show but im offended by this. Am I doing this right?

One eyed Jack

The Sun King wrote: »

Are people so fragile and hypocritical that they will attack a six year old over an imaginary horse? I fear for the future.

I'm just after reading about that on thejournal.ie. It takes a really special sort to troll someone like that, and that's all it could be, as I don't believe for a minute anyone could seriously be offended by that song sung by a child. I wouldn't even be entertaining their nonsense if I was that child's parent tbh.

They have to be trolling, surely?

Sunnyisland

Bring back gaybo


Are you allowed say gay bo now

the evasion_kid

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Didnt see the late late toy show but im offended by this. Am I doing this right?

I'm more offended that you're offended...

Fleawuss

The sickness of modern life? Apres moi le deluge?

Sam Kade

Hammer89 wrote: »

I love this. Excellent point overall.

Catch a n1gger by the toe




















waits for backlash

NIMAN

No you aren't, and hope you enjoyed Black Friday, cos you won't be allowed to call it by that name ever again.

NIMAN

Anonymity is to blame

If your real name was listed beside your posts on boards, twitter, Facebook etc, 90% of this **** would stop overnight

Fleawuss

NIMAN wrote: »

No you aren't, and hope you enjoyed Black Friday, cos you won't be allowed to call it by that name ever again.

We certainly won't be allowed call it Good Friday.

smash

Kids were singing this song 25/30 years ago too. Or whenever my little pony was invented.

maggiepip

No way obviously should a child be getting abuse on social media (in case anyone jumps at me), as in no way, should go without saying, but the lyrics aren't exactly very nice, would the parents not have suggested she sang different words? The not very nice stuff we sang as kids, like the "catch a blank by the toe" were passed down, don't think we actually made them up as kids. Would be more for encouraging a happier version.

Dughorm

Is this really a "sickness of modern life"? People have always been insulting and easily offended regardless of the target.

The difference is that it's instant now - in the past I bet many letters written in haste late at night were probably destroyed the following morning when people came to their senses!

PARlance

NIMAN wrote: »

Anonymity is to blame

If your real name was listed beside your posts on boards, twitter, Facebook etc, 90% of this **** would stop overnight

Agreed, but all this sh1te is easily avoided too. When it comes to such "news items", I've long since given up on social media, I actively avoid "emotive" online discussions and blank out dumbed down media. It's quite easy to do.

It's only modern life if you want it to be.

One eyed Jack

NIMAN wrote: »

Anonymity is to blame

If your real name was listed beside your posts on boards, twitter, Facebook etc, 90% of this **** would stop overnight

I used to believe that too. I guess because I wanted to, but lately it appears evident that people aren't so concerned about anonymity when they're presented with an opportunity to make themselves feel better about themselves among their peers (the fact that their peers are about the same emotional intelligence quotient, completely lacking of empathy for anyone but themselves, is neither here nor there).

People can simply be incredibly cruel sometimes among their own kind.

PolaroidPizza

as soon as 1 person gets away with getting a tv broadcast pulled for being 'offended' you've given the green light for every 'offended' idiot and their mother to get every damn thing censored/banned/cancelled.

you can be sure next year that every song will be carefully screened, giving these 'offended' idiots their little victory, sending us further down the rabbit-hole that is suspiciously like an episode of the southpark cartoon.

the brave thing to do is for rte to bring an entire choir of kids singing the same song again next year, but that's not gonna happen.

NIMAN

If all this continues at the same pace then I fear to think what social media and the world will be like in 20 years time.

We will spend our waking hours saying nothing to each other, or else apologising for the last thing we said.

One eyed Jack

maggiepip wrote: »

No way obviously should a child be getting abuse on social media (in case anyone jumps at me), as in no way, should go without saying, but the lyrics aren't exactly very nice, would the parents not have suggested she sang different words? The not very nice stuff we sang as kids, like the "catch a blank by the toe" were passed down, don't think we actually made them up as kids. Would be more for encouraging a happier version.

Should have stopped there tbh. There really is no excuse, no "buts" or otherwise, for some of the comments, from ADULTS ffs, in that journal.ie article. It's those adults should be ashamed of themselves, their attitude, and their behaviour, though it's unlikely they will ever see the irony in their own stinking attitudes towards other human beings.

You're reading far too much into things if the lyrics of the song are causing you discomfort.

Figbiscuithead

My mother always made me say "beany". So there.

SEPT 23 1989

Another world war will put an end to this nonsense

The Sun King

Figbiscuithead wrote: »

My mother always made me say "beany". So there.

The Africans were ok in her eyes, eh? But not the damn Mexicans. Classic.

The Sun King

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Another world war will put an end to this nonsense

A war wouldn't put much of a dent in the pacifist, hipster, vegan, conversation killing population. Unless it's fought across the Twitter sphere and the casualties are closed accounts.

ThinkProgress

The Sun King wrote: »

Are people so fragile and hypocritical that they will attack

YES!

maggiepip

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Should have stopped there tbh. There really is no excuse, no "buts" or otherwise, for some of the comments, from ADULTS ffs, in that journal.ie article. It's those adults should be ashamed of themselves, their attitude, and their behaviour, though it's unlikely they will ever see the irony in their own stinking attitudes towards other human beings.

You're reading far too much into things if the lyrics of the song are causing you discomfort.

I knew there'd be one to jump at me, if you think for one second I was suggesting there was any excuse for online abuse you're very sadly mistaken. But you just had to jump in there didn't you.

StewartGriffin

Sam Kade wrote: »

Catch a n1gger by the toe




















waits for backlash

That's ok, cos we all know you're black yourself.

You are black aren't you? Am I being a racist calling you black?:eek:

Of Feck it, I think I've just offended myself. [SELF DESTRUCTS]

I do wonder what will happen to these young sjw folk when they get a bit older though. When they get to their 30's, a bit cranky, less tolerant.

Sam Kade

StewartGriffin wrote: »

That's ok, cos we all know you're black yourself.

You are black aren't you? Am I being a racist calling you black?:eek:

Of Feck it, I think I've just offended myself. [SELF DESTRUCTS]

I do wonder what will happen to these young sjw folk when they get a bit older though. When they get to their 30's, a bit cranky, less tolerant.

You can't call them black, coloured or the n word. What can you call them? Chocolate people?

BMJD

NIMAN wrote: »

No you aren't, and hope you enjoyed Black Friday, cos you won't be allowed to call it by that name ever again.

ok ok Black Everyday :rolleyes:

Azalea

Sam Kade wrote: »

You can't call them black, coloured or the n word. What can you call them? Chocolate people?

Of course you can call black people black - I've just done it. Some people get offended by "coloured" all right though - I don't see an issue with it if there's nothing bad intended by it. I've heard of black people themselves using the term or "people of colour" - NAACP has "coloured" in its name. It's kinda an old-fashioned term I guess.

Sam Kade

Azalea wrote: »

Of course you can call black people black - I've just done it. Some people get offended by "coloured" all right though - I don't see an issue with it if there's nothing bad intended by it. I've heard of black people themselves using the term or "people of colour" - NAACP has "coloured" in its name. It's kinda an old-fashioned term I guess.

If you say black people to some Americans they get highly offended.

DEFTLEFTHAND

StewartGriffin wrote: »

That's ok, cos we all know you're black yourself.

You are black aren't you? Am I being a racist calling you black?:eek:

Of Feck it, I think I've just offended myself. [SELF DESTRUCTS]

I do wonder what will happen to these young sjw folk when they get a bit older though. When they get to their 30's, a bit cranky, less tolerant.

You'd hope some will mature when they leave college and face the harsh realities of existence.

Others won't and that's a worry because they need help, they're so unhappy. It's what turned me towards the end of my college days, I began to realise that some poor people in the societies I was apart of and the Union were actually insane.

superelliptic

NIMAN wrote: »

Anonymity is to blame

If your real name was listed beside your posts on boards, twitter, Facebook etc, 90% of this **** would stop overnight

100%. If the veil was lifted on every post to see who made it there would be instant manners put on the whole internet.

seamus

The world hasn't gotten any worse. If this little girl had been on the toy show twenty years ago, half of the households in the country would have been making ching-chong-chinaman jokes and she would have been the talk of the place the next day, nobody batting an eyelid to the casual racism.

The fact that people are shocked and outraged by others' racist and creepy remarks goes to show how less acceptable this is nowadays and how rare it is to hear.

The song she sang was incidental. She otherwise stood out cos she was a little rip who needs to learn some manners.

strelok

are people saying the girls song was racist?

what is offensive about it?

a malnourished horse dies on a table.

what?

Azalea

strelok wrote: »

are people saying the girls song was racist?

what is offensive about it?

a malnourished horse dies on a table.

what?

No there were apparently racist comments made online about her for singing a song that implied cruelty to an animal.
Irony-ometer gone up to 11.

Sam Kade

I'm shocked that there are adults watching the toy show.

One eyed Jack

maggiepip wrote: »

I knew there'd be one to jump at me, if you think for one second I was suggesting there was any excuse for online abuse you're very sadly mistaken. But you just had to jump in there didn't you.

I didn't jump at you at all, nor did I think for one second you were suggesting there was any excuse for online abuse. Your post was simply the equivalent of "I'm not racist but...", and what follows is a paper thin justification offered as an attempt to understand why people would fire off abuse against this girl and her parents.

That's why I suggested you should have stopped at "but", because the words of the song were exactly why this girl and her parents were subjected to the abuse they received. I know that wasn't your intent though, which is why I didn't jump at you, in the same way I wouldn't jump at a child for signing a song about an imaginary pony on national tv.

Guaranteed of course another group of people would object to her singing Baa Baa Black Sheep or Puff the Magic Dragon or some shyte, because some people love to find some way to put someone down, for something, anything!

It's embarrassing is all that anyone would offer any sort of understanding to those idiots that would be made feel insecure about themselves, by a child.

The Sun King

Azalea wrote: »

No there were apparently racist comments made online about her for singing a song that implied cruelty to an animal.
Irony-ometer gone up to 11.

It wasn't even suggesting cruelty. Just a tale about a horse dying.

If anything, this young girl could be critiquing the poor level of care that travellers provide their horses.

Had the coin flip come up the other way perhaps these people would have interpreted it like that and attacked Pavee Point.

jamesbere

Sam Kade wrote: »

If you say black people to some Americans they get highly offended.

Americans are offended by everything

Cork Lass

jamesbere wrote: »

Americans are offended by everything

One of my in-laws is American and she'd be offended if you asked her the time

Did anyone see the toy show thread on AH? The mod's had to come on and actuality say cop on they are children you are 'commenting on'

allibastor

People will always find reasons to be Cúnts.

No matter what it is, what religion, race, age etc people will still find something to be cúnts about.

What causes more problems is that people then shout the silly popular phrases at them to shut every other conversation down. Your a Biggot, Racist, Paedo, sexist, ageist, etc if you dont agree with me, so dont argue.

HalloweenJack

I'm reminded of a time when I was at a football match and two kids of about ten were running around messing. One of them hit the other and the other lad said: "Get away from me, you black bastard!"

Cue dozens of middle-aged men roaring at the kid, effing and blinding him and saying he can't be saying that. The kid then asked why and none of these fine anti-racism crusaders could explain it, one of them just barked at him: "Just because!"

Now, I appreciate what they were trying to do but by not explaining it to him I think they aren't solving the problem. Racism is wrong but you need to explain why, especially to someone so young. Just telling people you can't do something but not explaining why is lazy and counter-productive.

In this case, I don't see the problem with what the girl said, just another case of people getting worked up about nothing.

Salvation Tambourine

Humpty Dumpty had sat on wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
The children came along with sticks and glue
And put Humpty together as good as new.


This is one of the new versions of Humpty Dumpty. Used because people thought the old one was too harsh for children.

iDave

This is the problem Twitter, FB and even boards presents.
Up to the 90s, perhaps even mid 00s the many idiots like this could only be heard as far as their voice could be carried. So essentially limited to the pub, water cooler etc.
Now since Twitter went supernova all these idiots nonsense opinions can be be broadcast to a massive audience and gain traction.
I enjoy Twitter as much as the next person but it really has given stupidity a platform it doesn't deserve.

donegaLroad

ring a ring a rosey is alleged to be referring to the Great Plague of London.