Middle aged women on the train.

The Moldy Gowl

I'm on the limerick to Dublin train and the carriage is packed.

But there is 6 middle aged women being very loud and obnoxious as they are taking up 2 tables and having a conversation across the 2 tables.
While they don't think they were antisocial, the passive aggressive glares from the people in my vicinity said otherwise.

So I asked could they not be as loud, like the people's hero.
One turned around and asked was I for real.
I asked was she a teenager.

So, am I just a cranky old man or what do you when there is gowls on public transport?

That Middle Aged cackle is going through my skull. Would they find it antisocial if I didn't wear headphones?

Nib

Ear-phones.

/thread

Ruu

Nib wrote: »

Ear-phones.

/thread

Someone might pull them out of your ear though. :pac:

Treepole

Its public transport. What do you expect? Middle aged women can be incredibly ignorant with an awful sense of entitlement.

The Moldy Gowl

Nib wrote: »

Ear-phones.

/thread

Have my headphones on and could still hear that cackle.
Piercing.

Azalea

If they're drinking they're particularly nightmarish.

harry Bailey esq

Hipflask and headphones for me,look at the cows and stuff.

The Moldy Gowl

Treepole wrote: »

Its public transport. What do you expect? Middle aged women can be incredibly ignorant with an awful sense of entitlement.

Every instance of interruptive behaviour I have seen in civilised places like cafés or restaurants has been by these type of women.

What do I expect, people to cop on and not be oblivious to other people stuck sitting next to you.

What would they say if I sat at their table and cracked open cans and didn't use ear phones?
They would be the first to tut me.

Senna

Join in on their conversation, start by laughing when they laugh, then build up to a really uncomfortable story about your bowels during the last train journey you were on.
Noting like a bowels story to shut people up.

The Backwards Man

Leave them alone. You'll be like that some day yourself

McDave

@ the OP

For my money, too many Irish people lack finesse, self-confidence and even basic manners, with no real sense of how to behave in public. It doesn't matter if you're on a train, in a cafe, restaurant or at the cinema or theatre, or even in a bookshop. There's always a loudmouth, or moron on a mobile phone, projecting his /her inadequacy into the space of others.

On the flip side, not enough Irish people have the character or guts to challenge boors. So good on you for getting your spake in.

The Moldy Gowl

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Leave them alone. You'll be like that some day yourself

If I turn into a middle aged woman, I have bigger problems than a cackle.

faceman

I'm on the side of the ladies on the train. i fail to see what the issue is.

Azalea

faceman wrote: »

I'm on the side of the ladies on the train. i fail to see what the issue is.

It probably doesn't annoy you so to be on a train journey with a group of people being extremely shouty and screechy. I think it's a reasonable thing to be annoyed by though - it's distracting and unnecessary for the other passengers in their vicinity.
Really can't abide inappropriately loud people.

The Moldy Gowl

faceman wrote: »

I'm on the side of the ladies on the train. i fail to see what the issue is.

Controversial opinion.

Having a loud conversation across the train and being so entitled you don't care about other people being annoyed because of your actions is ok?
I would happily tell you piss off on a train or bus or wherever, how would you react?


I didn't even mention them passing remarks about me.

timzil

Personally, I enjoy the sound of people conversing in public. I like to eavesdrop on their conversation and then mimic them in my own head always makes the journey shorter. Try this technique op. haha

MadsL

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

What would they say if I sat at their table and cracked open cans and didn't use ear phones?
They would be the first to tut me.

Yeah, you should ALWAYS use ear phones when opening cans. Height of rudeness not to.

MonkieSocks

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

If I turn into a middle aged woman, I have bigger problems than a cackle.

Take Pics of them with your phone and post them on here :P

It's just a little bit harsh to tar all middle-aged women with the one brush. My Mum is a middle aged women, and has never once in my entire life raised her voice in my hearing.

If someone made sweeping generalisations about men there would a platoon of posters with their tails up at the injustice of it all.

The Moldy Gowl

timzil wrote: »

Personally, I enjoy the sound of people conversing in public. I like to eavesdrop on their conversation and then mimic them in my own head always makes the journey shorter. Try this technique op. haha

I did becuase I couldn't help it.

They are mad bitches. They were out in cobblestone joes last night.
Probably post memes of minions.

myshirt

One by one, punch them right in the ovary. That'll learn em.

The Moldy Gowl

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Take Pics of them with your phone and post them on here :P

I'll be pulling into Heuston soon enough.
Everyone assemble there.

The Moldy Gowl

Candie wrote: »

It's just a little bit harsh to tar all middle-aged women with the one brush. My Mum is a middle aged women, and has never once in my entire life raised her voice in my hearing.

If someone made sweeping generalisations about men there would a platoon of posters with their tails up at the injustice of it all.

Hi.
Ya sorry, can you not?

McDave

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I'll be pulling into Heuston soon enough.
Everyone assemble there.

I'm on me bike, Growlasaurus! Pike at the ready. :pac:

puckmymuskie

My girlfriend was in a similar situation a while back on a bus. She said to a pair of rough oul ones to keep it down that they were giving her a head ache. They told her to fcuk off and my her business and that its a free country and all that guff. So herself also has this fantastic ability which is to fart at will. As she walked past them in the aisle she nearly deafened the one on the outside farting as close to her ear as possible. A few people roared laughing but the driver was not much impressed. that will learn them.

sasta le

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I'm on the limerick to Dublin train and the carriage is packed.

But there is 6 middle aged women being very loud and obnoxious as they are taking up 2 tables and having a conversation across the 2 tables.
While they don't think they were antisocial, the passive aggressive glares from the people in my vicinity said otherwise.

So I asked could they not be as loud, like the people's hero.
One turned around and asked was I for real.
I asked was she a teenager.

So, am I just a cranky old man or what do you when there is gowls on public transport?

That Middle Aged cackle is going through my skull. Would they find it antisocial if I didn't wear headphones?

They rough or posh loud ones?

myshirt

^^^^^^^
Just when you thought that skill would never come in handy.

The Moldy Gowl

sasta le wrote: »

They rough or posh loud ones?

Posh loud ones sporting the can I speak to a manager haircut.

Canadel

Candie wrote: »

It's just a little bit harsh to tar all middle-aged women with the one brush. My Mum is a middle aged women, and has never once in my entire life raised her voice in my hearing.

If someone made sweeping generalisations about men there would a platoon of posters with their tails up at the injustice of it all.

That would be harsh, but nobody has really done that, even the Op has clearly said in his experience it has always been this demographic. No harm to make a disclaimer post before things do inevitably take off though I suppose!

Op, can you not move seat? Ignore them? You know, the normal things people do in situations like you've described.

McDave

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Posh loud ones sporting the can I speak to a manager haircut.

Knacker behaviour transcends all 'classes'.

Ciderswigger

I don't get it? You seem annoyed that they're taking up two tables but there's 6 of them so what do you expect, 2 of them to sit on their laps? And you say they're talking across the carriage, they're obviously not unless they've gotten tables at opposite ends of the train? So your problem is that they're loud and obnoxious, and instead of keeping the cool you get smart with her when she gets narky with you?

Fair enough, those kinds of people are annoying but you could have approached it better and then IF they still don't keep the noise down you could get pissed off.

Qualitymark

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I'm on the limerick to Dublin train and the carriage is packed.

But there is 6 middle aged women people being very loud and obnoxious as they are taking up 2 tables and having a conversation across the 2 tables.
While they don't think they were antisocial, the passive aggressive glares from the people in my vicinity said otherwise.

Fixed that for you. We've all been annoyed by screechy hen parties, drunken schoolboys, cranky old men, at-the-top-of-their-voices Africans, sarcastic eastern Europeans, braying English, multifamilial Travellers, obnoxious Americans, upper-class twats, etc, etc. Earphones and a good film or the radio on the computer/tablet/phone is the answer.

The Moldy Gowl

Across the carriage being window to window.

Ciderswigger

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Across the carriage being window to window.

So pretty much beside (or opposite depending on how you want to look at it) each other? I haven't been on a train in a few years but I assume the tables still only sit 4?

NachoBusiness

Pics Record them and post a link to the MP3 or it didn't happen.

The Moldy Gowl

Qualitymark wrote: »

Fixed that for you. We've all been annoyed by screechy hen parties, drunken schoolboys, cranky old men, at-the-top-of-their-voices Africans, sarcastic eastern Europeans, braying English, multifamilial Travellers, obnoxious Americans, upper-class twats, etc, etc. Earphones and a good film or the radio on the computer/tablet/phone is the answer.

I was watching a movie with headphones and I could still hear them.

Then they got all uppity and were passing remarks like I'm young enough to be their son.

Ciderswigger

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Then they got all uppity and were passing remarks like I'm young enough to be their son.

To be fair, that's well out of order. Would you not say something?

The Moldy Gowl

Ciderswigger wrote: »

So pretty much beside (or opposite depending on how you want to look at it) each other? I haven't been on a train in a few years but I assume the tables still only sit 4?

Yes. Obviously. So they had 2 tables. Becuase there was 6 and were talking to a guy who sat beside the 2

It dosent make a difference how many were there or the seating arrangements.
Loud obnoxious people should be called up for it.

The Moldy Gowl

Ciderswigger wrote: »

To be fair, that's well out of order. Would you not say something?

I would have gotten too annoyed and said something i probably shouldn't if I had.
They were looking for a rise at that stage.

Fleawuss

Ring a naughty phone number and put it on speaker.
Or start barking loudly at irregular intervals.
And the nuclear option:
Lots of beery farts as you pass their group.

coffeepls

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Then they got all uppity and were passing remarks like I'm young enough to be their son.

That's not a nice situation to be put in. Well they were being mean to you there.

Canadel

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I was watching a movie with headphones and I could still hear them.

How dare they interrupt your private cinematic viewing time!

Then they got all uppity and were passing remarks like I'm young enough to be their son.

Could be taken as a compliment.

If this is the worst thing that happens you this week you're not doing too badly.

SEPT 23 1989

Would you not have tried getting stuck into one of them?

The Moldy Gowl

Canadel wrote: »

How dare they interrupt your private cinematic viewing time!

Could be taken as a compliment.

If this is the worst thing that happens you this week you're not doing too badly.

Doubt that.

Need to go to Dublin airport at 6 am on Tuesday, that's a breeding ground for these people.

Conor Bourke

McDave wrote: »

@ the OP

For my money, too many Irish people lack finesse, self-confidence and even basic manners, with no real sense of how to behave in public. It doesn't matter if you're on a train, in a cafe, restaurant or at the cinema or theatre, or even in a bookshop. There's always a loudmouth, or moron on a mobile phone, projecting his /her inadequacy into the space of others.

On the flip side, not enough Irish people have the character or guts to challenge boors. So good on you for getting your spake in.

That you, Aongus?

coffeepls

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Doubt that.

Need to go to Dublin airport at 6 am on Tuesday, that's a breeding ground for these people.

I'm just making up the placards now - terminal 1 or 2? I want to know where to congregate

The Moldy Gowl

coffeepls wrote: »

I'm just making up the placards now - terminal 1 or 2? I want to know where to congregate

Terminal 1 for povertyair.

I'll need moral support to get through security.

Arbiter of Good Taste

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I was watching a movie with headphones and I could still hear them.

Then they got all uppity and were passing remarks like I'm young enough to be their son.

To which you should have responded, "oh sweetie. Son? Don't kid yourself. Grandson, maybe. You're a bit too old to be my mother."

The Moldy Gowl

Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »

To which you should have responded, "oh sweetie. Son? Don't kid yourself. Grandson, maybe. You're a bit too old to be my mother."

Goddammit. Would have been perfect

paleoperson

This seems pretty straightforward.

Hearing an ordinary conversation on the train, regardless of quality, is an expected hazard of being on the train. As stated some people like half-listening in to the conversations. I'm not much of a conversationalist, but I think I'd miss it if everyone just sat in silence. You can always put on headphones.

Being loud and engaging in cackling laughter and having a conversation over two tables is overboard and imo rude, depending on the situation.

Eugene Norman

I would be lying if I said loud middle aged women, loud middle aged men, loud young people, loud old people, loud yanks, Spanish students or crying babies (etc.) don't annoy me but it's not something I would say is a reasonable annoyance. Rain in November also annoys me.

These things are facts of life. I don't think that there are concepts of quiet carriages in Irish rail. Maybe petition for that.