Boston Marathon 2016 (Apr 18)

Murph_D

The spring marathon threads are starting to appear so about time we got Boston on the list. (Very late this year - the 2015 thread was started a year before the event by DrQ.)

Who's in? I see from the entrant list there are 104 Irish citizens entered, half of them living abroad.

Anyway, let's start sharing any Boston-specific training (and travel) tips. Advice from Boston grads always welcome! I'm thinking extra downhill work would be a good thing?

Useful links:
Race website
Course Profile (courtesy of tfbubendorfer)

Previous threads:

2015
2014
2013

yaboya1

Finally got around to booking my flights & accommodation. Cheap it is not!
Probably my last foreign marathon for a long time (excluding London).

neilc

yaboya1 wrote: »

Finally got around to booking my flights & accommodation. Cheap it is not!
Probably my last foreign marathon for a long time (excluding London).

Went with Airbnb myself, double room €470 for six nights in Cambridge with a 'Superhost' (134 5* reviews). Can't decide on the flights, skyscanner has Dublin/Boston via London at €914 or direct with Aerlingus at €1174 at the minute for two. Tempted by the London option but extra hassle!

FBOT01

I am in. No flights booked yet but have hotel secured although it is a hell of a lot dearer than neilc's Airbnb option!

Haven't looked at training plans yet. Will probably give P&D 55-70 another go with plenty of downhill quad busting training routes.

yaboya1

neilc wrote: »

Went with Airbnb myself, double room €470 for six nights in Cambridge with a 'Superhost' (134 5* reviews). Can't decide on the flights, skyscanner has Dublin/Boston via London at €914 or direct with Aerlingus at €1174 at the minute for two. Tempted by the London option but extra hassle!

You did very well with the accommodation. I paid more than that for three nights in the same area!

I'm curious as to how your flights are so expensive though? I got mine for €609 and only booked them four days ago.

neilc

yaboya1 wrote: »

You did very well with the accommodation. I paid more than that for three nights in the same area!

I'm curious as to how your flights are so expensive though? I got mine for €609 and only booked them four days ago.

Sorry that price is for myself and the missus.
Yeah delighted with the accommodation, right beside the subway too, should work out good.

ger664

Stayed last year in Midtown Hotel on Hunnington Ave. Less then half a mile to star/finish and expo ~$200 a night for a double room. Basic 3 star with no onsite bar/restaurant but loads of those in the area.

Anyone close to a a green or red T line on Air BNB will have no issues getting to the start area on the day of the race (Boston Common)

Murph_D

Booked flights today - good deal available at 455 return on BA/Aer Lingus (direct flights) via skyscanner.

FBOT01

Murph_D wrote: »

Booked flights today - good deal available at 455 return on BA/Aer Lingus (direct flights) via skyscanner.

Jumped on the same deal. Thanks to a heads up from Murph. Happy days!

yaboya1

Murph_D wrote: »

Booked flights today - good deal available at 455 return on BA/Aer Lingus (direct flights) via skyscanner.

Ffs

That's what I get for being organised!

neilc

Murph_D wrote: »

Booked flights today - good deal available at 455 return on BA/Aer Lingus (direct flights) via skyscanner.

Hey, I deleted my skyscanner alert so I wouldn't have to hear things like this!!


Well done great price!

neilc

Next years jacket!

PaulieYifter

After considering changing tack to Rotterdam (there's a gazillion from the Cru going there) I did up the plan last night to land on Boston. The jacket has made my mind up for me . The 15 week plan starts in the New Year.

tang1

PaulieYifter wrote: »

After considering changing tack to Rotterdam (there's a gazillion from the Cru going there).

Added attraction TbL might be in Rotterdam tho......

PaulieYifter

tang1 wrote: »

Added attraction TbL might be in Rotterdam tho......

Might be.....unless I was going and then it would be "won't be" despite best efforts...

Murph_D

Lots of posters here have done Boston before. Any tips on how to train for it? And how to run it on the day? What would you do differently if you were doing it again?

PaulieYifter

Murph_D wrote: »

Lots of posters here have done Boston before. Any tips on how to train for it? And how to run it on the day? What would you do differently if you were doing it again?

Well - this will be my 3rd Boston and I wish I had an answer for you. The majority of my marathons have been negative splits or very close to even splits but NOT Boston. A 3 minute positive split in 2013 and a 5 minute positive split in 2015. The Newton Hills sapped all my energy in 2013 however in 2015 I felt good after cresting Heartbreak Hill but I still slowed up - driving rain and a strong headwind probably had as much to do with this though.

Its still a bit of a rollercoaster to the finish from the top of Heartbreak Hill and one thing I noticed was I couldn't up the pace on the downhill bits in the last 5 miles because my legs were too sore. I intend to do a couple of hilly long runs with some downhill towards the end of them - nothing too extreme though.

So my advice would be to

0 - train as you normally would
1 - allow for a minute or so positive split
2 - do some downhill running to strengthen the quads (but don't risk injury)
3 - pray for a strong westerly wind

neilc

KentuckyPete wrote: »

met wideball, meno and Dory Dory at the pasta party earlier. all in good shape.

Meno you were on about an immediate post-race pub. Clery's in Dartmouth Street is a good one - scene of previous Boards recovery the year of the big burnup...

How about we head there after the finish?

I know it's early to be considering a pub but just found this on the 2014 thread!

FBOT01

neilc wrote: »

I know it's early to be considering a pub but just found this on the 2014 thread!

Never too early. Fail to prepare......

PaulieYifter

Just bumping this up. We've all been very quiet here since we went private

FBOT01

PaulieYifter wrote: »

Just bumping this up. We've all been very quiet here since we went private

Maybe we need to start a table Paulie.....will dig out my bib number and kick it off as soon I get to PC if no one else gets to it first

PaulieYifter

Here we are - fancy one with a sort and all

Name|Bib|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898|2:55:30

echancrure

Good luck Paulie!

FBOT01

Name|Bib|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898|2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827|2:59:xx|


Anything with a 2 in front of it will work for me

ThebitterLemon

FBOT01 wrote: »

Name|Bib|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898|2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827|2:59:xx|


Anything with a 2 in front of it will work for me

22.59:59!!!

TbL

AuldManKing

pair of ff'in sandbaggers.

yaboya1

Name|Bib|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898|2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827|2:59:xx|
yaboya1|3988|<2:59:04|

Murph_D

Name|Bib|PB|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898||2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827||2:59:xx|
yaboya1|3988||<2:59:04|
Murph_D|16510|3:29:16|3:19:xx|


Added PB column, mainly to make my target look less cigaresque.

I'm very impressed with those low bib numbers, lads. I'll be down the back.

Bring it on.

ger664

The real race is finishing higher then your bib Number

Murph_D

ger664 wrote: »

The real race is finishing higher then your bib Number

Good point. I'm sure that can be arranged.

FBOT01

Murph_D wrote: »

Good point. I'm sure that can be arranged.

Don't forget, D that you are giving 16000 runners at least a 25min head start

FBOT01

Name|Bib|PB|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898||2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827|3:00:59|2:59:xx|
yaboya1|3988||<2:59:04|
Murph_D|16510|3:29:16|3:19:xx|

yaboya1

Name|Bib|PB|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898||2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827|3:00:59|2:59:xx|
yaboya1|3988|2:59:04|<2:59:04|
Murph_D|16510|3:29:16|3:19:xx|

PaulieYifter

Name|Bib|PB|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898|2:56:44|2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827|3:00:59|2:59:xx|
yaboya1|3988|2:59:04|<2:59:04|
Murph_D|16510|3:29:16|3:19:xx|


Filled in the blank

Murph_D

FBOT01 wrote: »

Don't forget, D that you are giving 16000 runners at least a 25min head start

Bound to catch a few of them .

Murph_D

PaulieYifter wrote: »

Name|Bib|PB|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898|2:56:44|2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827|3:00:59|2:59:xx|
yaboya1|3988|2:59:04|<2:59:04|
Murph_D|16510|3:29:16|3:19:xx|


Filled in the blank

I see what else you did there.

Singer

http://www.accuweather.com/en/features/trend/boston-marathon-2016-forecast-ideal-conditions-for-runners/56635478

ger664

Best of luck to everyone on Monday. Enjoy the day and grab a kiss @ mile 11

neilc

Name|Bib|PB|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898|2:56:44|2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827|3:00:59|2:59:xx|
yaboya1|3988|2:59:04|<2:59:04|
Murph_D|16510|3:29:16|3:19:xx|
neilc|8758|3:10:28|<4:00|


Out injured for the last 5 weeks but think I've made a enough of an improvement over the last week to run. Going to start out real easy and if it holds up maybe pick it up a bit later in the race. Only target is to enjoy myself so only put <4:00 in the box rather than leave it blank.

Younganne

Best of luck to you all running & enjoy!!

opus

Very best of luck to everyone for Monday, can't believe it's been a year since I was there myself! Hope the weather is a bit kinder this year

kit3

Name|Bib|PB|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898|2:56:44|2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827|3:00:59|2:59:xx|
yaboya1|3988|2:59:04|<2:59:04|
Murph_D|16510|3:29:16|3:19:xx|
neilc|8758|3:10:28|<4:00|
The exile*|707|2:43|2:44|



* The exile aka the poster formerly known as Dr Q :cool:

Best of luck to everyone next week

DukeOfDromada

Best of luck everyone!

I was supposed to be doing it myself but haven't ran in 2 months. I am still going to be there so may bump into some. Any pub nominated for drinks directly after the race?

Wubble Wubble

Good luck to everybody running this. Hopefully it's PBs all round on Monday evening!

Itziger

DukeOfDromada wrote: »

Best of luck everyone!

I was supposed to be doing it myself but haven't ran in 2 months. I am still going to be there so may bump into some. Any pub nominated for drinks directly after the race?

Sorry to hear that man. hope you get back on the road sooner rather than later.

Itziger

kit3 wrote: »

Name|Bib|PB|Target Time|Actual Time
PaulieYifter|2898|2:56:44|2:55:30|
FBOT01|4827|3:00:59|2:59:xx|
yaboya1|3988|2:59:04|<2:59:04|
Murph_D|16510|3:29:16|3:19:xx|
neilc|8758|3:10:28|<4:00|
The exile*|707|2:43|2:44|



* The exile aka the poster formerly known as Dr Q :cool:

Best of luck to everyone next week

Dr Q, the contrary fecker who was always getting banned and stuff! Was he in Frankfurt with the gang 18 months ago? So a fella with a pb of 2.43 is targeting a time of 2.44. Sounds fishy to me.

kit3

Itziger wrote: »

Dr Q, the contrary fecker who was always getting banned and stuff! Was he in Frankfurt with the gang 18 months ago? So a fella with a pb of 2.43 is targeting a time of 2.44. Sounds fishy to me.

Hmm, that's one way of looking at it. Others might have experienced a regular poster who was always willing to give advice but got himself banned because he couldn't help calling out bs. Whatever way you see it he was never boring As for a target, I'd never question that one - only the person concerned knows how their training cycle has gone. In any case, he has a lot of friends/club mates/training partners around these parts who are interested in how he does.

Itziger

kit3 wrote: »

Hmm, that's one way of looking at it. Others might have experienced a regular poster who was always willing to give advice but got himself banned because he couldn't help calling out bs. Whatever way you see it he was never boring As for a target, I'd never question that one - only the person concerned knows how their training cycle has gone. In any case, he has a lot of friends/club mates/training partners around these parts who are interested in how he does.

Oh, when I say 'contrary' I didn't mean it that negatively. Wasn't the best word perhaps. If it is who I am thinking of, then I enjoyed his company in Frankfurt that time, a fine post race drinking companion, so he was. I wish him the best on Monday. (Hope he gets that 2,42 he's gunning for )

kit3

Itziger wrote: »

Oh, when I say 'contrary' I didn't mean it that negatively. Wasn't the best word perhaps. If it is who I am thinking of, then I enjoyed his company in Frankfurt that time, a fine post race drinking companion, so he was. I wish him the best on Monday. (Hope he gets that 2,42 he's gunning for )

Haha, your meaning of contrary could be spot on then :P Same fella

ger664

Itziger wrote: »

Dr Q, the contrary fecker who was always getting banned and stuff! Was he in Frankfurt with the gang 18 months ago? So a fella with a pb of 2.43 is targeting a time of 2.44. Sounds fishy to me.

He has been known to blow up massively in Boston, so he is probably playing it safe.

On a side note its good to see he is there the weekend was an excellent host last year.

Murph_D

"The Exile" is looking in good shape, and is proving an excellent host this year too...

DukeofDromada, there were a couple of suggestions for post race pints, I'll check the latest thinking and post here later.

Edit: the bar is Stoddards, Temple Place, near Boston Common.