Who are ISIS and what do they want...

Packrat

Ok, I know it sounds like a question from 12 months ago, but it's even more relevant right now, as the world wonders how to defeat them.
This is the best explanation I've seen by a mile. It's a longish read, so make the tea first. It also assumes some slight knowledge of the difference between Sunni, Shia, and Wahabist Muslims, and where they live.
Enjoy.
https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/&ved=0CCIQFjACahUKEwjum_6Wu5PJAhXDgQ8KHbimC7U&usg=AFQjCNEuvYF79YFF28HAEJ_fnr-W-GHnXQ&sig2=iJC7NMO_VoPutQs7yiRTPA

BoJack Horseman

read that before... it is a good read if people have the time.

Stheno

According to the Islam forum yesterday there are no such thing as Wahabbists, rather they are Salafi


I read that entire article, and thought it was superb, tbh it's too long for most on here to read.

In a nutshell what it says is that ISIS are reverting to the times of Mohammed, taking his teachings literally and applying them.

Fleawuss

They offer the closest we will ever get to time travel: back to the 7th century and they want you converted or dead.

Filmer Paradise

Fleawuss wrote: »

They offer the closest we will ever get to time travel: back to the 7th century and they want you converted or dead.

Not very nice dudes then,I take it?

c_man

They want your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWmH9ylqYYQ

Stheno

Fleawuss wrote: »

They offer the closest we will ever get to time travel: back to the 7th century and they want you converted or dead.

Actually they don't

THey treat the likes of the Yazidi (Ithink) as infidels, but if you are of another non Muslim religion, you can pay a tax to live your life as normal.

ISIS is the International Secret Intelligence Service and I guess they want sexbots and stuff.

mad muffin

It's time for another crusade…

tomwaterford

Stheno wrote: »

Actually they don't

THey treat the likes of the Yazidi (Ithink) as infidels, but if you are of another non Muslim religion, you can pay a tax to live your life as normal.

In no world is living with isis normal


Though it did offer a way to beat them...just contain them and prevent expansion


And a very good insight why people would join/choose to live under them.....free clothes/food etc vs being treated with suspicion and poor etc in the west??

Though remains to be seen how much is true etc

Niemoj

The Islamic State are going to "attack and polarise" Ireland.

Watch out people....

BoJack Horseman

mad muffin wrote: »

It's time for another crusade…

I vote childrens crusade.

that'll staighten out those little scrotes.

Stheno

tomwaterford wrote: »

In no world is living with isis normal


Though it did offer a way to beat them...just contain them and prevent expansion


And a very good insight why people would join/choose to live under them.....free clothes/food etc vs being treated with suspicion and poor etc in the west??

Though remains to be seen how much is true etc

Did you actually spend the half hour that reading the linked article took, to entitle you to have an opinion?

Your response suggests not.

Niemoj wrote: »

The Islamic State are going to "attack and polarise" Ireland.

Watch out people....

Read then article in the OP

tomwaterford

Stheno wrote: »

Did you actually spend the half hour that reading the linked article took, to entitle you to have an opinion?

Your response suggests not.


Read then article in the OP

Actually did like...earlier on today (it's not the first time it's been linked to)

Where you think I didn't

Fleawuss

Stheno wrote: »

Actually they don't

THey treat the likes of the Yazidi (Ithink) as infidels, but if you are of another non Muslim religion, you can pay a tax to live your life as normal.

That varies. The tax can be impossibly high.

Saipanne

They want to complete Mohammeds plan, using Mohammeds methods.

Simple as that.

tomwaterford

Saipanne wrote: »

They want to complete Mohammeds plan, using Mohammeds methods.

Simple as that.

Someone should probily break it to em that he didn't have a machine gun so :pac:

Stheno

Fleawuss wrote: »

That varies. The tax can be impossibly high.

How high?

Fleawuss

Stheno wrote: »

Actually they don't

THey treat the likes of the Yazidi (Ithink) as infidels, but if you are of another non Muslim religion, you can pay a tax to live your life as normal.

And they do kill Yazidis: a mass grave reported on another thread. You wouldn't want to confuse IS with the Revenue.

Turtyturd

When do they want it?

Fleawuss

Stheno wrote: »

How high?

You're capable of googling too. But we're obviously in a pissing contest so here you go:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/09/isis-territory-taxes-recruitment-syria/403426/

simdan

The link is coming up as invalid. Please re post

Fleawuss

Saipanne wrote: »

They want to complete Mohammeds plan, using Mohammeds methods.

Simple as that.

Careful now: it was Allah's plan.

Fleawuss

simdan wrote: »

The link is coming up as invalid. Please re post

Works for me. Google Islamic state taxes and you'll get it.

Stheno

Fleawuss wrote: »

And they do kill Yazidis: a mass grave reported on another thread. You wouldn't want to confuse IS with the Revenue.

I clearly stated that they kill Yazidis, and charge non Muslim religious the tax they do

Facekicking 2 The Future

Niemoj wrote: »

The Islamic State are going to "attack and polarise" Ireland.

Watch out people....

On that map...........Mongolia, where the last stand will be made, lol

Reminds me how in World War Z, after the 10 year war, a city in Tibet becomes the populated city on the planet.

BoJack Horseman

Stheno wrote: »

and charge non Muslim religious the tax they do

They don't levy water charges either.

Apparently that's why Mick Wallace is a fan.

Fleawuss

Stheno wrote: »

I clearly stated that they kill Yazidis, and charge non Muslim religious the tax they do

Were they collecting tax in the Bataclan do you think ?

NachoBusiness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLl0DVzRksk

jam_mac_jam

Packrat wrote: »

Ok, I know it sounds like a question from 12 months ago, but it's even more relevant right now, as the world wonders how to defeat them.
This is the best explanation I've seen by a mile. It's a longish read, so make the tea first. It also assumes some slight knowledge of the difference between Sunni, Shia, and Wahabist Muslims, and where they live.
Enjoy.
https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/&ved=0CCIQFjACahUKEwjum_6Wu5PJAhXDgQ8KHbimC7U&usg=AFQjCNEuvYF79YFF28HAEJ_fnr-W-GHnXQ&sig2=iJC7NMO_VoPutQs7yiRTPA

That's a very interesting and scary article, I didn't know any of that apocalypse business. Very scary. So they basically want to be invaded.

Wanderer78

you re an awful bunch in here! a very funny awful bunch though.

RayCon

Niemoj wrote: »

The Islamic State are going to "attack and polarise" Ireland.

Watch out people....

Portugal for the holliers in 2016 so ....

Fleawuss

There'll be great bargains in Raqqa. Local taxes could be hellish though.

Wanderer78

in all fairness, have any of these lads looked into hobbies or anything? your mind be playing tricks on yea without the hobbies

NachoBusiness

Wanderer78 wrote: »

you re an awful bunch in here! a very funny awful bunch though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCCG2Z9LoVk

Fleawuss

Wanderer78 wrote: »

in all fairness, have any of these lads looked into hobbies or anything? your mind be playing tricks on yea without the hobbies

I have an oul hobby horse which does fine by me. :pac:

rolliepoley

I put that same link up in the Paris thread, they want an apocalypse.

Wanderer78

rolliepoley wrote: »

I put that same link up in the Paris thread, they want an apocalypse.

understandable. its still raw. messy messy!

Zebra3

Packrat wrote: »

Ok, I know it sounds like a question from 12 months ago, but it's even more relevant right now, as the world wonders how to defeat them.

Relax there with the hyperbole, the world is not wondering how to defeat them, just some people.

Who is your daddy and what does he do?

Saipanne

Zebra3 wrote: »

Relax there with the hyperbole, the world is not wondering how to defeat them, just some people.

Yeah, people should account for the human carpets, out there.

Sh1tbag OToole

Back in my day ISIS was only a circuit design program

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kAIN2ixzZ_4/SwcIGierkCI/AAAAAAAAAAU/gVJtl4yXwr0/s1600/Proteus.jpg

Zebra3

Saipanne wrote: »

Yeah, people should account for the human carpets, out there.

Many people are living their lives under the fear of western violence and atm, couldn't give a toss about iS.

Saipanne

Zebra3 wrote: »

Many people are living their lives under the fear of western violence and atm, couldn't give a toss about iS.

Who, the Iraqis? The Kurds? The Syrians?

mathie

Wanderer78 wrote: »

in all fairness, have any of these lads looked into hobbies or anything? your mind be playing tricks on yea without the hobbies

Hobbies : Running, murdering the unarmed with AK-47s, crochet.

smash

Just a bunch of lads who like to sing...

https://twitter.com/isis_karaoke/status/639705567745994752

https://twitter.com/isis_karaoke/status/636466555493195776

Mr Freeze

Niemoj wrote: »

The Islamic State are going to "attack and polarise" Ireland.

Watch out people....

Why lump us in with the other "attack and polarise" and leave Portugal out but include Spain in the group?

I would have assumed the rest of the world would be in the "attack and polarise" group, why are some countries exempt?

Also, will read the article in the OP at lunch time.

Medusa22

Thanks for that article OP, I found it very interesting and although I can't fully comprehend why anyone would want to join ISIS, I am beginning to understand how they do manage to draw muslims from western countries who are disaffected.

That map amused me though, why is Mongolia exempt? And Eastern Europe (sorry, ''central Europe'' :P) looks pretty good too, good job I'm off to Krakow then in December, they don't seem to have any interest in Poland :pac:

Hitchens

Packrat wrote: »

Ok, I know it sounds like a question from 12 months ago, but it's even more relevant right now, as the world wonders how to defeat them.
This is the best explanation I've seen by a mile. It's a longish read, so make the tea first. It also assumes some slight knowledge of the difference between Sunni, Shia, and Wahabist Muslims, and where they live.
Enjoy.
https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/&ved=0CCIQFjACahUKEwjum_6Wu5PJAhXDgQ8KHbimC7U&usg=AFQjCNEuvYF79YFF28HAEJ_fnr-W-GHnXQ&sig2=iJC7NMO_VoPutQs7yiRTPA

What they want is to waste yo ass!

biko

Stheno wrote: »

In a nutshell what it says is that ISIS are reverting to the times of Mohammed, taking his teachings literally and applying them.

They're like Amish, except they torture, kill and enslave everyone that doesn't agree with them - all according to Muhammed's example.

BoJack Horseman

biko wrote: »

They're like Amish, except they torture, kill and enslave everyone that doesn't agree with them

Just like those villainous Amish.

The barn building is just a front.