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Diamond Doll

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I'm a fan but I doubt the band would want that...

I was thinking the same.

I would think that they absolutely wouldn't want to profit from it, if it did happen, so at least maybe the money raised could go towards the survivors' recovery. So some good might come of it.

But I don't know ... the band and everyone involved with the band must be feeling very traumatised and probably feeling a lot of guilt (however unjustified/irrational), I can't imagine they'd want to be subject of a high-profile campaign like that right now.

opiniated

ihatemyfish wrote: »

Anyone with a brain knew that it was only a matter of time before Daesh smuggled in some of their men through the migrant channels. It was not a bold prediction. The question is now how many of them got in and if our leaders do the necessary and firmly shut the borders before more get in.

Not really. The question is, how many did Daesh smuggle in, and how do we find them.

Equally important, however, is: How many radicalised IS members are already here, and what are their targets...

Diamond Doll

take everything wrote: »

It will be interesting to see if this has any major effect on concert-going in European cities or just nightlife in general.

I know I would think twice about going to a gig now.
Some might see that as irrational but what's to stop a repeat in Dublin. Improbable but not impossible.

Ah you can't stop living your life just because of incidents like this. That's essentially letting the terrorists win.

What's to stop your house going on fire when you're tucked up asleep at home rather than going out? Again, improbable, but not impossible.

For what it's worth, I can't see Ireland being high up on their targets list. I wouldn't be surprised if something happens in England in the not-so-distant future though.

tigger123

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I'm a fan but I doubt the band would want that...

Why wouldn't they want it?

Mena

tigger123 wrote: »

Why wouldn't they want it?

To be successful and make money on an artistic performance off of the backs of 129 dead people. Sure, why not. I'm sure they can't wait.

Pocoyo

timthumbni wrote: »

Listen. You are talking to a poster who is an unashamed supporter of the IRA. It's funny he now seems to be coming across all peace loving partridge family as he certainly isn't in other threads concerning the IRA. No doubt 30 years ago Isis and the IRA would have been twinned with one or the other teaching each other how best to blow up pubs.

The Ulster unionists are far more comparable to ISIS than the IRA.

inforfun

Diamond Doll wrote: »

Ah you can't stop living your life just because of incidents like this. That's essentially letting the terrorists win.

What's to stop your house going on fire when you're tucked up asleep at home rather than going out? Again, improbable, but not impossible.

For what it's worth, I can't see Ireland being high up on their targets list. I wouldn't be surprised if something happens in England in the not-so-distant future though.

I guess that is what the 100+ last friday thought as well, i am afraid.
Earlier in this thread i posted some quotes from a column that described the area where it all took place.

This is the land of hipster socialists. These neighborhoods recently elected a female socialist mayor, as well as a slew of Green Party candidates, even as the rest of the country voted for the more conservative and anti-immigration parties on the Right.

Tonight’s attacks show the same uncanny sense of symbolism as the January massacres. They targeted neighborhoods where people are more inclined to be tolerant, liberal and progressive. And they targeted the greatest monument to France’s multi-ethnic, pluralistic success: the hallowed ground of the Stade de France.

I guess these people thought they would be about the last ones being attacked.

custard gannet

tigger123 wrote: »

Just saw on Facebook that someone's started a campaign to get Eagles of Death Metal to number one.

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With all due respect I never heard of them before Friday, and I have never heard a single note of their music.

However, I am confident they are utter shi't, and just because of this tragedy it doesn't mean we have to endorse this talentless cack.

Pocoyo

custard gannet wrote: »

With all due respect I never heard of them before Friday, and I have never heard a single note of their music.

However, I am confident they are utter shi't, and just because of this tragedy it doesn't mean we have to endorse this talentless cack.

How?

tigger123

custard gannet wrote: »

With all due respect I never heard of them before Friday, and I have never heard a single note of their music.

However, I am confident they are utter shi't, and just because of this tragedy it doesn't mean we have to endorse this talentless cack.

Real mature.

Custardpi

You know you could spend a few minutes flicking through some Youtube videos of them before damning them as "talentless". By the way, they're not actually a death metal band, the name is a joke. Not liking death metal (which is very much an acquired taste) shouldn't be a barrier. Have an open mind & if you still don't like the music fair enough.

tigger123

Mena wrote: »

To be successful and make money on an artistic performance off of the backs of 129 dead people. Sure, why not. I'm sure they can't wait.

Don't know if I'd view it in those terms tbh. A lot of people feel quite helpless, and the first thing I thought of would be that's a statement of resistance from the public at large and an opportunity for us to make our feelings known to these scumbags about what happened.

I wouldn't for a second think about making the band rich off the back of something like this.

ben.schlomo

custard gannet wrote: »

With all due respect I never heard of them before Friday, and I have never heard a single note of their music.

However, I am confident they are utter shi't, and just because of this tragedy it doesn't mean we have to endorse this talentless cack.

So your musical ignorance is Gospel, good, at least we know the lie of he land on this issue.

bilston

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I usually ignore your posts because they amount to little more than 'I hate Muslims' in my opinion. You thanked a nutter who claimed that all Muslims in their hearts supported what happened in Paris. Shame on you for being such sectarian who feeds into the hatred.

Hard to believe you have the gall to call anyone out on being sectarian given your subsequent posts and your reference to "your type".

Staggering really.

custard gannet

tigger123 wrote: »

Just saw on Facebook that someone's started a campaign to get Eagles of Death Metal to number one.

.

Fair enough, I thought they actually were a metal band.

I can respect most people's tastes as a case of live and let live each to their own, but death metal and Conor McGregor are where I draw the line

Paramite Pie

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Also I would imagine our intelligence gathering is way behind other countries like the UK for instance.

They've plenty of experience gathering intelligence the IRA & UVF. Urban warfare as we know it was largely created in Ireland in the first place. The IRA trained with many Islamic rebels over the years and used the same equipment. We all know we can't completely prevent an attack but I imagine our forces will deal effectively.

Isaiah wrote: »

You realize that The actions of Christians throughout history lead to the world where you can read and write in a free Europe?

The bible gave us literacy and the new testament our ideas about equality.this is often ignored today by rabid liberals and pseudo socialists.

Religion has outgrown its use -- now we read for the sake of reading -- not to learn theology. Our ideas of equality have surpassed any religious text -- and now clash.

So yeah, Christianity had it's benefits but we've outgrown it.

Arne_Saknussem

Reports that the two Syrian passports are fake, 'probably made in Turkey'

Royal Irish

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Reports that the two Syrian passports are fake, 'probably made in Turkey'

Link to these reports please?

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Isaiah wrote: »

The Soviets taught this also. They were wrong.

Islam is the problem. Not Christianity, not Judaism, not Hindus, Buddhist or Sikh. Not the Mormons, or Jehovas witnesses, or the Shintoists or Wiccans. ISLAM

You realize that The actions of Christians throughout history lead to the world where you can read and write in a free Europe?

The bible gave us literacy and the new testament our ideas about equality.this is often ignored today by rabid liberals and pseudo socialists.

Go away, using this atrocity as a nice opportunity to bible bash is sickening, though not unsurprising from your type.

I have to agree with the suicide_circus's post, the less religion of any and all kinds, the better.

GT_TDI_150

Fact that the second car was found quite a distance from where it was used ... Seems to indicate at least one attacker was able to leave the scene.

Arne_Saknussem

Royal Irish wrote: »

Link to these reports please?

Jon Snow, Channel 4 news anchor is tweeting that it's coming from 'Paris police sources'

https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

(Queue lots of 'You know nothing Jon Snow' hilarity)

Custardpi

I fear we may see further attacks in the coming days, possibly in another major city like Berlin or London. No matter how tight security is, there's always weak spots.

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custard gannet wrote: »

With all due respect I never heard of them before Friday, and I have never heard a single note of their music.

However, I am confident they are utter shi't, and just because of this tragedy it doesn't mean we have to endorse this talentless cack.

You're a real piece of ****.

I'd be 100% certain if that campaign is successful that the proceeds will all be going to a charity related to the victims.

stefanovich

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Jon Snow, Channel 4 news anchor is tweeting that it's coming from 'Paris police sources'

https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

(Queue lots of 'You know nothing Jon Snow' hilarity)

I read his tweets in his voice in my head Kinda disturbing.

Anyway, I'll wait for proper confirmation. Snow is totally biased.

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Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Reports that the two Syrian passports are fake, 'probably made in Turkey'

Uh-oh, this might be an issue for everyone thoroughly enjoying blaming the refugees.

Arne_Saknussem

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Reports that the two Syrian passports are fake, 'probably made in Turkey'

The whole argument around the validity of the passports is really pointless at the end of the day, as IS don't recognize the national borders of the Middle East.

As far as they're concerned, it's all one big "caliphate" and they see the borders (& secular governments) as "Western interference"

stefanovich

Carlee Tart Wedding wrote: »

Uh-oh, this might be an issue for everyone thoroughly enjoying blaming the refugees.

Maybe it's a fake passport, so they got in by pretending to be Syrian. That makes me more worried. How many fake Syrians have we got?

Carlee Tart Wedding

Carlee Tart Wedding wrote: »

Uh-oh, this might be an issue for everyone thoroughly enjoying blaming the refugees.

Most of the refugees are arriving via Turkey, so the origin of the "fake" passports does not rule out infiltration via the migrant route.

Arne_Saknussem

Deleted User wrote: »

The whole argument around the validity of the passports is really pointless at the end of the day, as IS don't recognize the national borders of the Middle East.

As far as they're concerned, it's all one big "caliphate" and they see the borders (& secular governments) as "Western interference"

Yep. And also it would be impossible to say if the person who used it to pass through Greece was/wasn't the same person involved in the attacks.

Rabo Karabekian

deco nate wrote: »

I also seen this post, one thing that hit me straight away was if you were hiding under/among the dead their would be a he'll of a lot more blood on your top. As was said in that post about hiding among the dead/dying. I think that was a... Ohh forget about it. Sure I'm gonna get abuse just for pointing out the above.

For those that really did go through it, for those that lost.. My thoughts are with them.

Events like this always bring out people who know *exactly* what amount of blood should be on a particular item of clothing given the amount of dead surrounding them and the amount of blood coming from the dead.