The world would be a better place if we lived by science

steddyeddy · 13-11-2015 9:29pm #1

Would the world be a better place if science governed our politics and morals. Straight off the bat science doesn't recognise races. There's less than 1% difference in the genetic code of all humans. That should end racism.

The Palestinians and the Jews are nearly identical genetically indicating they both come from the same region. There's no Holy land

! No more wars there.

No more ISIS because there's no religion.

No more American health service because science says treating the individual to deal with pathogens rather than society doesn't work and makes things worse (multi drug resistant bacteria).

Would the world be a better place if we let science govern our lives?

5starpool · 13-11-2015 9:32pm

If religion never existed I'm sure people would find stuff to fight over, but no religion would be a great start.

Gongoozler · 13-11-2015 9:35pm

But races are different in terms of science. Some races are more likely than others to get certain conditions or diseases

CFlat · 13-11-2015 9:35pm

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace.

Fleawuss · 13-11-2015 9:38pm

The world is ruled by science. Even crazy sh*t like religion is rooted in human consciousness Like all our delusions it serves a short term purpose: to stop us from facing the truth that the world is governed by science.

Ally Dick · 13-11-2015 9:38pm

Lack of religion could mean lack of morals, so I am not sure that living by science is enough

13-11-2015 9:41pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Would the world be a better place if science governed our politics and morals. Straight off the bat science doesn't recognise races. There's less than 1% difference in the genetic code of all humans. That should end racism.

The Palestinians and the Jews are nearly identical genetically indicating they both come from the same region. There's no Holy land ! No more wars there.

No more ISIS because there's no religion.

No more American health service because science says treating the individual to deal with pathogens rather than society doesn't work and makes things worse (multi drug resistant bacteria).

Would the world be a better place if we let science govern our lives?

That would be like moving to Vulcan.

Junkyard Tom · 13-11-2015 9:41pm

Thank God for science!

steddyeddy · 13-11-2015 9:42pm

Candie wrote: »

That would be like moving to Vulcan.

I know. Do you not find Spock sexy Candie?

La Fenetre · 13-11-2015 9:42pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

Would the world be a better place if science governed our politics and morals. Straight off the bat science doesn't recognise races. There's less than 1% difference in the genetic code of all humans. That should end racism.

The Palestinians and the Jews are nearly identical genetically indicating they both come from the same region. There's no Holy land ! No more wars there.

No more ISIS because there's no religion.

No more American health service because science says treating the individual to deal with pathogens rather than society doesn't work and makes things worse (multi drug resistant bacteria).

Would the world be a better place if we let science govern our lives?

Science is a tool that can cure cancer or create an atomic bomb and chemical weapons. A knife can be used for killing or cooking. Religion can be used for good or bad. Computers can be used for ill or good. Again, it's all in the hands of the user.

sonny.knowles · 13-11-2015 9:44pm

The Nazi's liked science also.

steddyeddy · 13-11-2015 9:44pm

Gongoozler wrote: »

But races are different in terms of science. Some races are more likely than others to get certain conditions or diseases

Some people with certain mutations are prone to certain diseases. These mutations might correlate to an ethnicity or culture but those mutations cannot be linked with these cultures.

buried · 13-11-2015 9:44pm

Science made the atomic bomb

RobertKK · 13-11-2015 9:44pm

Oil wars would continue, but less now with fracking.
Water is iincreasingly an issue of contention.
Arab Spring uprising had nothing to do with religion, but the price of food being so high was the trigger.

Humans being humans, there will always be wars and violence as science and religion can't control greed, dangerous ambition - like Russia retaking Crimea because Khrushchev was stupid in the first instance to give it as a gift to Ukraine.

Religion is often used as an excuse but people have to take personal responsibility for their actions rather than trying to push it on to something much larger, we all have to make choices how we interact with others, and we know even if there was no religion there are people who will make really bad choices that will have a bad effect on others.

strelok · 13-11-2015 9:45pm

bring back eugenics!

Fr_Dougal · 13-11-2015 9:45pm

If we lived by science there would be no free will.

steddyeddy · 13-11-2015 9:45pm

buried wrote: »

Science made the atomic bomb

And politics deployed it.

RobertKK · 13-11-2015 9:45pm

CFlat wrote: »

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace.

He was away with the fairies.

buried · 13-11-2015 9:46pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

And politics deployed it.

No. The yanks did

Gererreh Tona · 13-11-2015 9:46pm

What exactly IS science? Think before you answer that one.. I mean in the context of something to "live by". I don't see any practical way not to "live by" science.

La Fenetre · 13-11-2015 9:47pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

And politics deployed it.

And politics, just like science can be used for good or bad.

Junkyard Tom · 13-11-2015 9:47pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLj4iwa0__8

sonny.knowles · 13-11-2015 9:47pm

strelok wrote: »

bring back eugenics!

Ignore my Thanks, I thought you mean bring back Eugene. Gavin, the new lad, is a knob.

steddyeddy · 13-11-2015 9:49pm

strelok wrote: »

bring back eugenics!

Now on what scientific principles did eugenics rely on? It wasn't genetics or anthropology. They were hijacked by the eugenics crowd.

Sh1tbag OToole · 13-11-2015 9:49pm

It will be a very boring place. Science doesn't replace religion in the way Dawkins fanboys like to think it does, nor will getting rid of it mean the end of ISIS. There will always be people in this world who won't accept the lifestyle being foisted upon us by Western government and business and there will always be people who are going to cause trouble no matter what.

B.A._Baracus · 13-11-2015 9:51pm

Whats that saying... "The more things change the more they stay the same"
So yeah even if we lived in a world without religion there would still be wars, murders, rapes, you name it.

La Fenetre · 13-11-2015 9:52pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Whats that saying... "The more things change the more they stay the same"
So yeah even if we lived in a world without religion there would still be wars, murders, rapes, you name it.

Thing is, what would people have to blame them on then ?

wakka12 · 13-11-2015 9:54pm

Why would science end racism? People are racist because people of different races look different to each other, Im pretty sure racists don't give two ****s how little or much genetic code they have in common with some other person of different race, science wont prevent their eyes from seeing a person who looks different to them

Drumpot · 13-11-2015 9:54pm

The problem isn't religion, it's people.

Certain People in the right environment will find a way to exploit the vulnerable.

Out of the worlds religious population how many people Use it to cause atrocities and how many use the positive teachings (commandments etc) to live more balanced lives? It's easy to blame religion but religion is not a problem at all, it's when people start abusing it for their own agenda.

Something would eventually replace religion. Indeed one could argue that money, via capitalism is a modern religion mascerading as a financial system. Think of how many people are effected by the rogue actions of a small few! Think of how wealth is spread and how wealth equates to power over others.

People are very much close minded on the true state of the world they are born into. conformed to believe the problem is seldom human nature which is what most atrocities usually boil down to.

steddyeddy · 13-11-2015 9:54pm

Gererreh Tona wrote: »

What exactly IS science? Think before you answer that one.. I mean in the context of something to "live by". I don't see any practical way not to "live by" science.

Science is the principles of applying scientific method to hypothesis and thereby finding those hypothesis null or proven. Then applying the knowledge gained through that.

E.G The middle east Israel problem. Jews and Palestinians are fighting over the land. Science says they both originate from the same land and are both Semitic peoples.

steddyeddy · 13-11-2015 9:55pm

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

It will be a very boring place. Science doesn't replace religion in the way Dawkins fanboys like to think it does, nor will getting rid of it mean the end of ISIS. There will always be people in this world who won't accept the lifestyle being foisted upon us by Western government and business and there will always be people who are going to cause trouble no matter what.

I am far from a Dawkins fanboy. His science is worth knowing but as a person he's not the nicest.

The world would be a better place if we lived by science

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