Galway through to the next round in the bid for European Capital of Culture 2020

Eeden

Galway (City and County) has been shortlisted for European Capital of Culture 2020 - we are through to the next round!

Well done to the Galway 2020 team.

http://connachttribune.ie/galways-2020-bid-gets-through-to-next-round/

GalwayGrrrrrl

Fantastic news - the team behind it seem to have worked really hard. Good luck to them in the next phase- it will bring a lot of visitors and money to the city if we win it (not to mention a great year of arts activities etc)

dastardly00

So Dublin have been eliminated.
And Galway, Limerick and 'the three sisters' (Kilkenny, Wexford, Waterford) are through to the next round.

gordongekko

Any chance of a bypass in the mean time?

TerrorFirmer

gordongekko wrote: »

Any chance of a bypass in the mean time?

Don't be ridiculous! The Coke Zero bike scheme is sorting that out.

what_traffic

dastardly00 wrote: »

So Dublin have been eliminated.
And Galway, Limerick and 'the three sisters' (Kilkenny, Wexford, Waterford) are through to the next round.

Why only one eliminated? Thought it was meant to be two eliminations?

Eeden

It wasn't about elimination as such, it was more who qualified to go through to the next round. They could have let all four through, or two, or even just one.

youngrun

Very long winded process

snubbleste

Really obvious the place is being spruced up for the jury visitation in the next week or so.
I'd have thought traffic woes, accommodation woes, litter woes, the state of BrowneDoorway and the Square in general might deter the ECC2020 being awarded here

youngrun

Hopefully they are not around early morning quay st and environs was a mess at 8 am this morning rubbish everywhere

snubbleste

youngrun wrote: »

Hopefully they are not around early morning quay st and environs was a mess at 8 am this morning rubbish everywhere

Tis true and fair play to the Council workers who were out cleaning up the Spanish Arch area and prettifying the Kirwan roundabout

gordongekko

Eyre square is looking well.

Mrs OBumble

youngrun wrote: »

Hopefully they are not around early morning quay st and environs was a mess at 8 am this morning rubbish everywhere

Unusual.

Most of the city centre is a mess at 5am each day. Th ex council workers do a fantastic job sorting it out each day.



The Eyre Square roses do look lovely, and the cream ones have a great scent too.

pure.conya

gordongekko wrote: »

Eyre square is looking well.

It took long enough to sort it out

topcat77

I was in Kilkenny last weekend and you'd never know they're part of the Three Sisters 2020 bid. Very little advertising about the bid.

bobbyss

The pressure's on.
This may go to a penalty shoot out.

El_Dangeroso

Is anyone else just not worried at all about getting it? Like seriously is there even any other competition?

Doesn't Galway act like it's the European capital of culture every day of the year? You can't swing a cat for festivals.

Is there somewhere you can bet money on this because it seems like a sure thing. Doubt any of the other contenders are putting in half the effort we are.

what_traffic

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Is anyone else just not worried at all about getting it? Like seriously is there even any other competition?

Doesn't Galway act like it's the European capital of culture every day of the year? You can't swing a cat for festivals.

Maybe that's why Limerick might pip Galway?
One strange aspect for me though is that even though Galway has lots of festivals and creative industries based here - it has poor facilities/infrastructure. Black box for example.

cfeeneyinterior

Can someone enlighten me as to what the fuss is about? If Galway was to win, what do you win exactly. Do we get shed loads of EU money to build arthouse cinemas and swanky museums? Or is it just a gold starðŸ˜႒

gordongekko

cfeeneyinterior wrote: »

Can someone enlighten me as to what the fuss is about? If Galway was to win, what do you win exactly. Do we get shed loads of EU money to build arthouse cinemas and swanky museums? Or is it just a gold starðŸ˜႒

1.5 million from eu
15 million from our own government
Plus a gold star.

cfeeneyinterior

gordongekko wrote: »

1.5 million from eu
15 million from our own government
Plus a gold star.

That sound good. Must be a big star so...

TerrorFirmer

Not to mention the massive knock on effect, it would be worth a few hundred million to Galway longer term and create a pretty significant amount of jobs as well.

It is a really big deal, indifference like 'ah sure Galway has loads going on anyway' is not really understanding what's actually at stake.

charlie_says

Ok I'm going to sound a bit skeptical here but what actually has the 2020 bid done apart from marketing and PR?

What actually has been done to foster more cultural events by the 2020 bid team to actually bolster what we have already or is it purely just to advertise Galway as is?

It seems to be very good at branding and networking events but a bit opaque when it comes to explaining the "teams" input, funding and collaboration with artists and the people of the city who make up it's cultural diversity.

They send a message of Let's Win The Bid Yay Aren't We Brilliant #socialmediabuzz pretty well but is that it?

I hope Galway will win of course add that would be a proud moment and very beneficial to the city, but I feel the bid campaign feels just a bit shallow.

I could just be a miserable bAstard though.

ben.schlomo

charlie_says wrote: »

Ok I'm going to sound a bit skeptical here but what actually has the 2020 bid done apart from marketing and PR?

What actually has been done to foster more cultural events by the 2020 bid team to actually bolster what we have already or is it purely just to advertise Galway as is?

It seems to be very good at branding and networking events but a bit opaque when it comes to explaining the "teams" input, funding and collaboration with artists and the people of the city who make up it's cultural diversity.

They send a message of Let's Win The Bid Yay Aren't We Brilliant #socialmediabuzz pretty well but is that it?

I hope Galway will win of course add that would be a proud moment and very beneficial to the city, but I feel the bid campaign feels just a bit shallow.

I could just be a miserable bAstard though.

The bid is about marketing and social media and driving that buzz that you seem to have an issue with though. The events, the input to local groups etc etc comes when you've been chosen and when the time comes around.

El_Dangeroso

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

It is a really big deal, indifference like 'ah sure Galway has loads going on anyway' is not really understanding what's actually at stake.

For the record I wasn't being indifferent, I really hope we get it, I was just thinking how could we not get it? Like how is it not in the bag compared to competitors?

beardybrewer

what_traffic wrote: »

One strange aspect for me though is that even though Galway has lots of festivals and creative industries based here - it has poor facilities/infrastructure. Black box for example.

Bill Bailey could barely contain his amusement when he played the Black Box. Everything Galway has is old. While many smaller towns had nothing 20 years ago they now have brand new shiny facilities while ours are tired and out of date.

snubbleste

Wikipedia sez "the beneficial socio-economic development and impact for the chosen city are now also considered in determining the chosen cities."

This would sway it in favour of Limerick imo.

snubbleste

Some 18 massive wooden flowerboxes plonked on footpath on LoughAtalia Road, each with a little flagpole sticking out.

You'd have to wonder where the Council are getting all the funds to do this when they are so resource-constrained with up to 300 people stuck in emergency accommodation and all sorts of other problems that negatively affect citizens' daily lives..where those funds could be used.

what_traffic

snubbleste wrote: »

Some 18 massive wooden flowerboxes plonked on footpath on LoughAtalia Road, each with a little flagpole sticking out.

Shush - those lovely flag boxes (provided by local Garden Centre company) are "always" there!

El_Dangeroso

snubbleste wrote: »

Some 18 massive wooden flowerboxes plonked on footpath on LoughAtalia Road, each with a little flagpole sticking out.

You'd have to wonder where the Council are getting all the funds to do this when they are so resource-constrained with up to 300 people stuck in emergency accommodation and all sorts of other problems that negatively affect citizens' daily lives..where those funds could be used.

Yes because the cost of flowerboxes = 300 houses.

snubbleste

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Yes because the cost of flowerboxes = 300 houses.

Ah now.

Aerohead

Limerick seems to have done well on the day for 2020, it made the news

http://www.breakingnews.ie/discover/limericks-street-party-bid-for-european-capital-of-culture-2020-went-very-well-on-tuesday-744576.html

youngrun

Limerick favourite i reckon is just my gut opinion, even though Galway has all the culture from arts /festivals/events viewpoint..
is the decision announced in public on friday ?

snubbleste

It would make more sense if Limerick got it as per earlier post.
Galway is just being greedy

Mrs OBumble

snubbleste wrote: »

It would make more sense if Limerick got it as per earlier post.
Galway is just being greedy

However Limerick managed to screw up the national version in 2014, so I'm not sure that they're up to the Europe-wide one yet.

Greedy or not, Galway is still lacking a decent large performing arts venue. Staging a large scale concert or similar here is extremely challenging, and all the possible venues lack any kind of suitable back-stage facilities. (No, I'm not talking thru a hole: I've been involved in one such event, and it was a PITA having to use off-site dressing rooms, etc)

Ludikrus

youngrun wrote: »

Limerick favourite i reckon is just my gut opinion, even though Galway has all the culture from arts /festivals/events viewpoint..
is the decision announced in public on friday ?

Announced on Friday it says.
http://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2016/0712/801981-city-of-culture-2020/

Storm 10

How can Limerick make the news and not a word about Galway after Mondays visit

Das Kitty

The poll for who should win doesn't even have Three Sisters on it. Weh weh.

youngrun

Ludikrus wrote: »

Announced on Friday it says.
http://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2016/0712/801981-city-of-culture-2020/

Yes thanks. Its being announced in the national concert hall between 12-12.30 i just read . nervewracking time for all involved, there is a serious amount of work time and money gone into it,

dr.bollocko

gordongekko

they must have won

Robbo

gordongekko wrote: »

they must have won

Culture-based riots if the news is bad. Hooligans in black polo necks tanked up on free glasses of wine. Superfluous scarves used as makeshift garrottes. Aosdana members orchestrating fights with rival theatre companies from Limerick and Wahhhhh'fud. Juggler blood *everywhere*.

Das Kitty

Robbo wrote: »

Culture-based riots if the news is bad. Hooligans in black polo necks tanked up on free glasses of wine. Superfluous scarves used as makeshift garrottes. Aosdana members orchestrating fights with rival theatre companies from Limerick and Wahhhhh'fud. Juggler blood *everywhere*.

Ah no. There'll just be outward congratulations of limerick and satirical poems passed around wine-bars.

seanin4711

What does city of culture mean to the average galwegian?
Very little,I imagine.
is it a business incentive?

JohnCleary

seanin4711 wrote: »

What does city of culture mean to the average galwegian?
Very little,I imagine.
is it a business incentive?

Higher prices

youngrun

seanin4711 wrote: »

What does city of culture mean to the average galwegian?
Very little,I imagine.
is it a business incentive?

This is one thing the 2020 crew did not inform the public well enough about
if it works then there will be a decent economic impact
There is a monetary win from it and a PR win
It is likely to attract a huge amount of extra tourists numbers ( 100k plus projected from now thru 2020 per annum) with the additional spend and job creation as a spinoff eg restaurant/hotels etc
The projects themselves will create jobs/spend eg if building new capital infrastrcuture etc or just on event hosting.
Obviously costs of hosting events etc from public pursebut benefits etc
The bid book has a good bit in it re the impact plan

IT article here states some figures from recent Limerick national city 12 m cost 45 million income and others

http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/what-is-the-point-of-the-european-capital-of-culture-1.2619679

Liverpool is the poster boy for the ECC project. Huge extra numbers and spend.
ECONOMY
AND TOURISM
Visiting Liverpool ECoC
– The Liverpool ECoC attracted 9.7 million
additional visits to Liverpool, constituting
35% of all visits to the city in 2008.
– These visits generated an economic impact
of £753.8 million (additional direct visitor
spend) across Liverpool, Merseyside and the
wider North West region.
– 2.6 million European and global visits were
motivated by the Liverpool ECoC in 2008.
97% of these were first-time visits to the city.
– The ECoC generated an additional
1.14 million staying visitor nights in
Liverpool hotels, 1.29 million in the rest
of Merseyside and 1.

gordongekko

seanin4711 wrote: »

What does city of culture mean to the average galwegian?
Very little,I imagine.
is it a business incentive?

I take it to mean a Volvo ocean race style festival down the docks. I'm all for it.

ben.schlomo

People seem very ignorant of the benefits, no surprise there.

timmyntc

ben.schlomo wrote: »

People seem very ignorant of the benefits, no surprise there.

Nobody has been informed of the benefits
The entire social media campaign is based on:

#IBackGalway #Galway2020

No effort has been made to explain the contest, the rewards, the judging criteria, etc.
So far it's just been sharing hashtags and putting stickers on walls about how people are backing the bid, however I don't think the success of the bid depends on how many people #BackGalway

ben.schlomo

timmyntc wrote: »

Nobody has been informed of the benefits
The entire social media campaign is based on:

No effort has been made to explain the contest, the rewards, the judging criteria, etc.
So far it's just been sharing hashtags and putting stickers on walls about how people are backing the bid, however I don't think the success of the bid depends on how many people #BackGalway

Can people not inform themselves these days? It's a bidding process, it had to be about getting themselves seen and heard, creating a buzz etc etc. The next stage is where the planning and preparation comes.

RobbieHawkins

Excuse my ignorance but can someone please explain as to why Galway is competing with Irish cities only in the EUROPEAN capital of culture.