Joshua v Whyte PPV 12 December

walshb

I see Joshua's December fight is PPV...

A Shaved Duck?

walshb wrote: »

I see Joshua's December fight is PPV...

LOL hearn has found a way to beat the joke that was Brook vs Gavin.

Mantis Toboggan

walshb wrote: »

I see Joshua's December fight is PPV...

That's embarrassing

Although I did say a while back to expect everyone of his fights to be ppv

A Shaved Duck?

Tyson Fury wrote: »

That's embarrassing

Although I did say a while back to expect everyone of his fights to be ppv

How can he sell that fight as anything other than a early ko for joshua...whyte has no defence.

mental stuff and he must have sky over a barrell getting this fight on PPV.

prettyboy81

The punter is now paying the price for Hearn/Matchroom stable being over stocked with over hyped British fighters!

Deiseboy01

This punter is not paying for it that's for sure and I'd call for all Boards boxing contributors to take a stand too. Disgraceful decision, no way to justify it.

walshb

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

This punter is not paying for it that's for sure and I'd call for all Boards boxing contributors to take a stand too. Disgraceful decision, no way to justify it.

Add me to it.....oh, but what about the 'great' undercard?....

Deiseboy01

walshb wrote: »

Add me to it.....oh, but what about the 'great' undercard?....

He used that line before with some justification but I don't think he's even trying this time. Enough is enough.

I get Sky and Boxnation, I'm cancelling Sky and will cite this as a major factor when asked why.

Mantis Toboggan

A Shaved Duck? wrote: »

How can he sell that fight as anything other than a early ko for joshua...whyte has no defence.

mental stuff and he must have sky over a barrell getting this fight on PPV.

They've been building up this grudge match for almost a year, I expected it to be ppv. Won't be buying it though even though was looking forward to the spike fight.

Andre 3000

Cannot wait to see and hear the bullsh*t coming out of Halling and Watt's mouths justifying this and lapping it up.

That_Guy

Paying for 2 walkout's and 2 minutes of boxing?

Think I'll pass thanks.

StringerBell

I'll just echo what the others have said, a joke of a PPV and I hope they get destroyed in terms of numbers.

WorldChampions

Best of luck joshua.

Mantis Toboggan

Tickets sold out in 5 minutes!!

boxer.fan

Not much PPV attraction here for this event. The UK is not the same though. They have a massive boxing audience & Hearn has invested heavily in Joshua. The Brits will lap this up & Hearn will get a small return margin. I expect Joshua to get the early stoppage

Chocolatito

No way this even should be PPV. A good quality main event with "stacked" undercard doesn't make an event PPV, a world class main event with a couple of solid fights on the undercard makes an event PPV.

A Shaved Duck?

Chocolatito wrote: »

No way this even should be PPV. A good quality main event with "stacked" undercard doesn't make an event PPV, a world class main event with a couple of solid fights on the undercard makes an event PPV.

Define "stacked".. im expecting the usual euro level english fighters beating up tough but overmatched mexicans and eastern europe bouncers with questionable records.

This has to go down as the worst PPV ever, whyte is 8/1 in the main event and wont go past 2 rounds its a joke.

Mantis Toboggan

A Shaved Duck? wrote: »

Define "stacked".. im expecting the usual euro level english fighters beating up tough but overmatched mexicans and eastern europe bouncers with questionable records.

This has to go down as the worst PPV ever, whyte is 8/1 in the main event and wont go past 2 rounds its a joke.

That's true, but apparantly it's selling well which is all that matters.

A Shaved Duck?

Tyson Fury wrote: »

That's true, but apparantly it's selling well which is all that matters.

According to sly sports and eddie hearn... they would never be liberal with the truth would they..

Deiseboy01

Mean while over on Boxnation they are showing Cotto v Canelo, puts Joshua v White on PPV into perspective.

hawkeyethenoo

what a joke but not surprising.

Deiseboy01

When you look at what Matchroom are providing on tonights cards compared to the joke of a PPV you have to wonder how anyone would pay for the Joshua fight.

British title fight vrs two world title fights and a decent British title fight.

TheNap

Forgot this was on PPV . My god .

btw Gloves are Off is on tonight. Spike and Eubank also taking part.

A Shaved Duck?

To be honest after last weeks shambles the numbers have to be down for this fight.

Mantis Toboggan

Hard to make a case for white here I'd expect it to be all one way traffic although I think it will go further than 3 rounds.

magma69

Another early KO for Joshua. This being a PPV event is laughable but if the Eddie Hearn sheep are happy to fork out for it, I can't blame him for doing it. It's bad for the sport though.

Eubank Jr and Spike is another mismatch.

Bellew will win in boring fashion.

The card stinks to high heaven. Sky Boxing has really gone downhill since Matchroom gained that exclusive contract.

Dick phelan

Shocking this is on PPV, the two main fights are mismatches Joshua will take Whyte out in 3 rounds and Eubank will either win a dominant points victory or stop Spike.

walshb

Dick phelan wrote: »

Shocking this is on PPV, the two main fights are mismatches Joshua will take Whyte out in 3 rounds and Eubank will either win a dominant points victory or stop Spike.

It is shocking, but not shocking. This is SS and boxing. Deal with it. When they peddled out Frankie and Kell as PPV a few months ago we knew we were fooked. I had theought Bellew-Cleverly was bad, and a one off. I'm just waiting for Crolla's first defence against some nobody to be PPVd!

Dick phelan

Just watched the Gloves are Off between Joshua and Whyte, Joshua is one boring guy Whyte is at least appears confident, On a side note Whyte has a 15 year old son!

Mantis Toboggan

Dick phelan wrote: »

Just watched the Gloves are Off between Joshua and Whyte, Joshua is one boring guy Whyte is at least appears confident, On a side note Whyte has a 15 year old son!

Huh? That would have made him 11...

Dick phelan

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Huh? That would have made him 11...

No he was 13 when he had his first child apparently!

Chrissybhoy

Looking forward to spike Eubank the most. Lot of people think it's a mismatch I give spike a real chance. As for Joshua Whyte doubt we'll see the fourth round

Johner

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

Looking forward to spike Eubank the most. Lot of people think it's a mismatch I give spike a real chance. As for Joshua Whyte doubt we'll see the fourth round

A chance based on what? I like Spike and hope he wins but he has nothing to trouble Eubank. Spike's power is hugely overrated and anyway Eubank can take a punch. I just can't see there's any way Spike out boxes him, Eubank is too fast and slick for Spike.

Chrissybhoy

Johner wrote: »

A chance based on what? I like Spike and hope he wins but he has nothing to trouble Eubank. Spike's power is hugely overrated and anyway Eubank can take a punch. I just can't see there's any way Spike out boxes him, Eubank is too fast and slick for Spike.

Based on me not Rating Eubank very clumsy not being all that slick you can see his power shots coming a mile. Just look at Saunders fight. I can see why Eubank is fav spike has never done anything amazing I know but I think has a real chance against Eubank who equally has never done anything amazing

keeponhurling

Boxing really is screwed.
Didn't think it could be taken even further away from your potential fan.

If you stopped random people in the street, probably around 99% will have never heard of either Joshua or White.

That's your biggest problem right there.

rebelomar

It's a bit of a joke this is on PPV alright. There's nothing PPV worthy at stake in the main event just two prospects irrespective of their individual merits...

The chief support Spike v Eubank has arguably more at stake with the WBA regular belt shot at stake but I don't think there's any justification for that being PPV either...

You'd wonder as a boxing fan why you are paying a sky sports subscription these days...

Dick phelan

keeponhurling wrote: »

Boxing really is screwed.
Didn't think it could be taken even further away from your potential fan.

If you stopped random people in the street, probably around 99% will have never heard of either Joshua or White.

That's your biggest problem right there.

A lot of people will know why Joshua is he's probably the most known boxer in Britain atm, except maybe Fury after last weekend.

davegrohl48

There's a fighter I'd love to see Joshua face, Izu Ugonuh, who is Polish born to Nigerian parents but fights out of Vegas. He has a middleweights left jab in terms of speed but is built similar to Joshua. A little more fluent looking in his jab and lighter on his feet I think than Joshua.Both have roughly the same record/ranking in grand scheme of things. Ugonuh will be avoided I predict by many as his name is relatively unknown but his ability and physique are intimidating.

Mantis Toboggan

davegrohl48 wrote: »

There's a fighter I'd love to see Joshua face, Izu Ugonuh, who is Polish born to Nigerian parents but fights out of Vegas. He has a middleweights left jab in terms of speed but is built similar to Joshua. A little more fluent looking in his jab and lighter on his feet I think than Joshua.Both have roughly the same record/ranking in grand scheme of things. Ugonuh will be avoided I predict by many as his name is relatively unknown but his ability and physique are intimidating.

Can't say I've ever seen him fight but I'd be worried that he's already 29 and still fighting bums.

davegrohl48

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Can't say I've ever seen him fight but I'd be worried that he's already 29 and still fighting bums.

I only got to know of him flicking through the sport channels on a Friday night seen one of his old fights. Had never heard of him but was impressed by his speed n power n build.
When I looked further into him found he did kickboxing first and that used up his early 20's.
His left jab is top notch and has one punch ko power and power to the body.

StringerBell

Enjoyed the Gloves are off episode. They seem to have a nice healthy dislike of each other. Hopefully Whyte can make it interesting. Can't see anything other then an early and comfortable stoppage though for AJ.

Andre 3000

I actually think Whyte can win this. It'd be great if he did.

FTA69

"What bruv? I even lent man a pair of jeans to go club innit?"

Whyte's grandfather is actually from Cavan I think. That having been said, he's a muppet. He spent the whole episode challenging Joshua to a brawl while Johnny Nelson was crawling up Anthony's hole. Right gas of a show it is.

selectamatic

Andre 3000 wrote: »

I actually think Whyte can win this. It'd be great if he did.

I'd be of the opinion that it would be far from great personal views of fighters can skew people perceptions of what's good for boxing. Fury is great for boxing for those who enjoy is out of ring antics but in the ring in the cold light of day he's a very tall conservative distance fighter (not the recipe for exciting boxing) Joshua as much as we all like to dislike him (gifted a gold, well prepped for the media etc) fact remains so far he has an exciting and dynamic fighting style with crisp sharp shots and true KO power (sure his opponents are sub standard but the manner of his wins are impressive) what will make the heavy weight division interesting again is knock outs and exciting fights having wilder, Joshua, poverkin, wlad, and others all vying for furys belts can only be good for boxing so I struggle to see how Joshua losing to white would be great? Infact I'd go so far as to say it'd be a disaster for the heavyweight division.

Andre 3000

selectamatic wrote: »

I'd be of the opinion that it would be far from great personal views of fighters can skew people perceptions of what's good for boxing. Fury is great for boxing for those who enjoy is out of ring antics but in the ring in the cold light of day he's a very tall conservative distance fighter (not the recipe for exciting boxing) Joshua as much as we all like to dislike him (gifted a gold well prepped for the media etc) fact remains so far he has an exciting and dynamic fighting style with crisp sharp shots and true KO power (sure his opponents are sub standard but the manner of his wins are impressive) what will make the heavy weight division interesting again is knock outs and exciting fights having wilder, Joshua, poverkin, wlad, and others all vying for furys belts can only be good for boxing so I struggle to see how Joshua losing to white would be great? Infact I'd go so far as to say it'd be a disaster for the heavyweight division.

I will admit I don't like Joshua, but I dislike the hype for him more than him, himself. It wouldn't be a bad thing for Joshua too if he lost so he can actually rebuild himself and go under the radar. He's being hyped to holy heights and tbh it must be getting annoying. He seems a dedicated guy but the drivel Hearns and Sky must be pumping into him has to be annoying him and distracting him. We all know what happened Audley and Price and to a lesser extentHaye when they let the hype get to them and thinking they're invincible. Sometimes a loss early in a career can do a fighter wonders. It gets the media off your back and let's you actually focus on your journey. It also points out your flaws at a time of your career when they can be changed Joshua is still a very raw fighter.

selectamatic

True he's hyped but he still remains an exciting fighter, audley was actually a decent amature but his lack of power and speed made him much less effective in the pros also price never really had a style that was easy on the eye he always seemed laboured and tense when in the ring, he had a good string of ko's against below par fighters but he too never looked quite as convincing. the uk sports media they are the kings of hype so it is to be expected as you say it could have a negative effect but I do hope it won't as I like aj's measured approach to fighting which works well with his hand speed and power. With the exception of the stiverne fight I would say wilder is more of a raw fighter.

Joshua did do a demolition job on Kevin Johnson something which fury seemed incapable of doing. I remember the crowd in Belfast booing both fury and Johnson by the 8th round that kinda thing is what's killing the heavyweight division. Now I know the Johnson Joshua faced was 2-3 years older but he still hadn't been stopped before so maybe just maybe some of the hype is warranted.

StringerBell

I agree that a loss early in his career could be good for AJ, but I am also a fan of his. Not too pushed about outside the ring stuff from boxers and tbh I don't hear much of the hype though I am aware of it obviously so that hasn't soured me yet.

I wouldn't like to see him lose to Whyte though, I hope he goes in there and smashes him early so we can get some proper tests in the ring against him and see where he is really at. The division has really opened up with Fury winning the belts so the time to put the pedal down has come a little early imo, its not ideal of course but you have to adjust your plans now and then.

Dick phelan

A loss would be disaster for Joshua at this stage, not from a boxing perspective but all the aura he has around him would be blown up and even if he came back and won a world title a bit like Tyson that feeling of invincibility the public seem to have with him would be gone.

StringerBell

The feeling of invincibility will go at some stage, one way or the other. Its how you come back from a loss that often makes the greatest champions.

An early career loss would have both positive and negative connotations on his career imo

Mantis Toboggan

Whyte really needs a fury-esk style performance to have any hope. He needs to move like he's never moved before, he can't allow Joshua to load up. If he tries to trade in the middle of the ring then it's going to be an early night for him. He's too much of a brawler though and will get roped into a fight, which he he lose.

A Shaved Duck?

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Whyte really needs a fury-esk style performance to have any hope. He needs to move like he's never moved before, he can't allow Joshua to load up. If he tries to trade in the middle of the ring then it's going to be an early night for him. He's too much of a brawler though and will get roped into a fight, which he he lose.

I doubt joshua is going to stand in front of him and not throw a punch for the first ten rounds..

fury-esque.. cmon now.