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  • 05-11-2015 10:51am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭


    After training for and finishing DCM 2015 (race report here), I am starting a new training log for the next stage of my running journey.

    I do have an old log but started it not realising how training logs worked here and I didn't use it to its full potential. I haven't logged any running on there since early this year so it's not very useful and I felt I needed a fresh start.

    I hope this log will be different!

    Running background: Started running in July 2013, loved it and have been running ever since. April 2015 started training for DCM and, over the course of my training, increased my mileage from 10 miles a week to 30+ miles a week, went from running 5 miles to my longest run (pre-marathon) of 18 miles. This was the first time I followed a real training schedule and I found I really enjoyed it. I fully intend to do another marathon in future!

    Running plans: Working with Myles Splitz who is helping me with a plan to improve my times over 5 and 10k. Current 5k race PB (putting the P in PB!) is 38:29. Myles' plan for me includes S&C which I am used to as I've been cross training with weights since summer 2014.

    About me: The name says it all really. I'm fat, I'm a girl, I run. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Ok, first training post!

    Went for a 1.5 mile run last night to get the blood flowing and legs moving. Under orders to hold to a 16 min/mile pace which I did. It felt really great to get out there, having not run since DCM, I was really feeling the lack of activity!

    I've also signed up for the Jingle Bells 5k which is going to set the bench mark for my training paces afterwards.

    I have a sport massage booked for tonight, then I'll do a few more short runs this week, non-consecutive days of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Good luck with the log.
    Delighted to see you're targeting 5 and 10ks.

    As I said to you a few months ago in your previous log, I went from 39xx 5k to 29xx in about 3 months. No reason why you can't do the same or better with focused training for the distance.

    Looking forward to following the progression. Best of luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    Good luck with log C, you have a super coach there and I look forward to seeing your progress over the coming months :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    Best of luck with your log. I was a lurker on the DCM mentored novice thread and it's great reading peoples reports and seeing how positive an experience almost everyone had.

    What's the long term plan, are you planning to run another marathon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    ncmc wrote: »
    Best of luck with your log. I was a lurker on the DCM mentored novice thread and it's great reading peoples reports and seeing how positive an experience almost everyone had.

    What's the long term plan, are you planning to run another marathon?

    Thanks. I really enjoyed the Novice's thread! It was a big help!

    I will run another marathon, but when and where I haven't thought about yet. I want to see how I do with the speedwork first before making any more marathon plans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Best of luck with new log C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Best of luck with the fresh start. I was lurking in the Novices thread and look forward to seeing how you get on in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Love the log title :) Best of luck with this, really looking forward to you reaping the rewards of the last few months!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Auntie Matter


    Best of luck with the 5K and 10K. Looking forward to seeing how you get on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Thanks for all the good luck wishes! I'll need 'em! :D

    2.5 mile recovery run this morning. Found it very hard to keep it so slow, I felt so good and wanted to run faster! Had to keep reminding myself of the reasons for going so slowly.

    Mile 1: 15.32
    Mile 2: 15.47
    Mile .5: 15.46

    Once I get started on my proper running plan I'll post in my log once a week. Just wanted to get this one down for the record.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭Finglas Flier


    Great stuff TFGR.....:)
    My take a leaf out of your log already....might book in for a massage meself!!!
    All the best.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Good luck with the new log and your new goals, C.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Feels great to be back into a regular training programme. Lots of easy runs this week but a challenging hill sprint session on Saturday kept things interesting!

    Easy pace for now is anywhere from 15.30min to 17.00min miles.

    Also, seriously trying to learn to run by effort, not the watch!

    Monday: 3 miles easy (15.56, 15.55, 15.52) - ran this one by the watch so effort was all over the place. Talking to Myles about it made me realise I need to pay more attention to effort on my runs and not be a slave to the Garmin. Decided to take it seriously and make a point of learning how to run by effort from now on.

    Wednesday: 4 mile progression run (16.16, 15.26, 14.40, 13.36) - Lots of running against the wind on this one so it was a good chance to practice running by effort! Happy enough with the result. Felt great to run a few faster miles!

    Thursday: 3 miles easy (16.18, 16.48, 16.48) - very windy/blustery so kept it nice and slow. I swear I did not look at my watch and didn't mean to run two splits the same! :P

    Saturday: 1 mile warm up, 6 x 30sec hills with 2.30min recovery, 1 mile cool down - Very tough session but also a lot of fun! Really watched the form on the sprints, and managed to keep the same effort level for all 6 and had enough left in the tank for the jog home. I used the Parkgate St gate at Phoenix Park as my hill. If you follow me on Strava you can see all the gory details there. If you want to follow me on Strava I'm here.

    Sunday: 5 miles easy (16.16, 16.02, 15.58, 15.39, 16.05) - Took the first two miles very easy as legs still feeling the hill session and I was running against the wind. Last three miles were fine although I felt myself running too fast at times. Only looked at my watch to confirm. Great to know I was reading my effort right! Was hard to keep it slow though, especially after I was warmed up. But I know better than to run too fast when I'm supposed to so kept it at easy pace. :D

    I really enjoyed this week of training. Lots of variety to keep it interesting and nothing too intense or difficult. Completing the hill sprints was great, it really helped me mentally to know I was well able for it!

    Looking forward to next week's training!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    That's a really good week's work C, well done. And you know I'm loving the 'effort approach' :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    That's a really good week's work C, well done. And you know I'm loving the 'effort approach' :D

    Yup, I knew you would. I've been thinking about you a lot this week! :pac: I did try a little bit of 'effort' running while training for the marathon but am making more of an...ha...effort to learn it now.

    Good job on your own running! Enjoy the break and I'll see you when you venture back. Take care!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭SausageDogDave


    Nice first week!

    As you're keeping track of your split times why not try hitting the "lap" button on your watch at the beginning and end of each hill repeat.

    I know you're running based on effort but you might find it nice to look back in a few weeks and see how your hill pace is improving!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Nice first week!

    As you're keeping track of your split times why not try hitting the "lap" button on your watch at the beginning and end of each hill repeat.

    I know you're running based on effort but you might find it nice to look back in a few weeks and see how your hill pace is improving!

    Thanks. I hadn't thought of using the lap function. That will come in handy later this week actually! Cheers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    First off, I'm nursing a niggle that I picked up early in the week. Taking it easy, not running hills and foam rolling seems to have helped. Coach rearranged some of the mid-week runs due to bad weather so looks a little different from last week.

    Monday: 3 miles easy (16.36, 17.01, 16.56) - Kept it very easy indeed after Saturday's hills and Sunday's 5 miler.

    Wednesday: 3 miles easy (16.22, 16.18, 16.28) - Weather wasn't too bad actually. Windy on the stretch from Four Courts to Heuston but otherwise grand. Didn't look at the watch once during this run. Wanted to run for the sake of running but still kept effort easy. I really enjoyed this run!

    Thursday: 1mi warm up, 6x2min (12-13min/mi) w/2 min recovery, 1mi cool down (Took first two intervals at a slower pace to watch the niggle. Orders were to pull the plug if it was too much. Thankfully it eased up and I was able to complete the session.)

    Lap 1: 1 mile (16.18)
    Lap 2: 2 mins @ 14.00min/mile
    Laps 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13: 2 mins walk
    Lap 4: 2 mins @ 13.30min/mile
    Lap 6: 2 mins @ 12.22min/mile
    Lap 8: 2 mins @ 12.05min/mile
    Lap 10: 2 mins @ 12.39min/mile
    Lap 12: 2 mins @ 12.34min/mile
    Lap 14: 1 mile (15.51)

    This was my first time doing a session like this. It was tough but I loved it! I felt tired at the end and I knew I had pushed myself, but I hadn't exhausted myself. So it all went well!

    Saturday: 3 miles easy (15.42, 15.51, 15.30)

    Sunday: 4 miles steady (14.03, 13.55, 13.55, 14.01) Was aiming for 14min/miles on this one. Felt great to be moving faster. Probably slightly too fast but it was such a beautiful morning and I was enjoying myself so much I got a tad carried away!


    All in all this was a pretty successful week. Managed all my runs while watching the niggle. Hit the paces I was aiming for too. Still feeling like a big, slow, lumbering elephant but at least I'm on the move and as I improve my speed these paces will be a distant memory.

    Jingle Bells is 13 days away and I admit it's a complete unknown to me in terms of a PB so I have decided not to think about it. If I worry about will I or won't I PB, I think I'll have missed the point of all this. Whatever happens on the day will inform my training going forward. The JB race isn't the important one, it's the NEXT one that's important!

    In other news, I weighed myself this morning (Sunday) before my run and I'm 96.6kg. My marathon weight was just over 99kg. So, progress!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭denis b


    TFGR


    Great variety in your weekly runs. Its gotta help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Really quite an exhausting week for me. With work stress, college stress and my usual trouble sleeping, it was hard to keep all the balls in the air! I was really grateful for the running, it was my chance to unplug from it all, get some time to myself and not have to think about what has been stressing me.

    Monday: 3 miles easy (16.26, 16:28, 16.27) - ran around the quays so nice and flat hence the consistent splits.

    Wednesday: 1 mile easy, 2 miles @ 13.30-14.00min/mile pace, 1 mile easy

    Mile 1: 15.23
    Mile 2: 14.08
    Mile 3: 13.43
    Mile 4: 15.26

    I really enjoyed this session and really needed it! Again it was around the quays so stayed flat. Bit boring though!

    Thursday: 3 miles easy (15.32, 15.49, 15.37)

    Saturday: 1 mile warm up, 8x45secs @ 11.55-12.25m/mile + 2min rec, 1 mile cool down

    Very wet and windy day today. I think I need to find a running jacket for days like these!

    Lap 1: 15.35 (1 mile)
    Lap 2: 11.07 min/mile
    Laps 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17: 2min recovery walk
    Lap 4: 11.00 min/mile
    Lap 6: 11.48 min/mile
    Lap 8: 11.53 min/mile
    Lap 10: 12.23 min/mile
    Lap 12: 11.33 min/mile
    Lap 14: 11.51 min/mile
    Lap 16: 11.19 min/mile
    Lap 18: 15.10 (1 mile)

    This session felt a little awkward for me and at times I was convinced I was running too fast. That's what my Garmin said anyway but the splits when uploaded are where they are supposed to be. I didn't feel as though this was a particularly hard session. I managed all the intervals without feeling winded or tired. I'm assured that's ok given the length of recovery time between each session so I won't worry about it! I do enjoy sessions like these as it makes for a nice change from my usual plod around the quays. It was also great to be running back into the Phoenix Park.

    Sunday: 6 miles easy + cool down

    Mile 1: 15.25
    Mile 2: 15.41
    Mile 3: 15.35
    Mile 4: 15.36
    Mile 5: 14.53
    Mile 6: 14.54
    Mile 0.6: 17.20

    Another very windy run! There were times I could have just stopped, leaned into the wind and it would've held me upright! First few miles were against the wind but the last two I had the wind at my back. I couldn't help but run them faster than I was supposed to!

    I also ran further out than expected so had just under another mile walk as cool down.

    Sunday morning weight: 96.3kg

    The week ahead

    Lovely little step back week for me as I have the Jingle Bells 5k next Saturday. It's very much an unknown and I'm trying not to stress or worry about it. The last 5k race I ran was back in March! And no, that wasn't even a PB! I'm interested to see how I'll do but also really unsure and nervous about it. Well. All I can do is go and run my best and see what happens!

    I have to say I am so glad to have Myles helping me out with my current training plan. There's no way I could come up with this stuff on my own. Everything I'm doing has a purpose and I'm learning so much about running! It's also varied and interesting. I'm really enjoying this next phase of my training. It can only get better from here and that's pretty exciting!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    well done on the sessions C, that looks like a good weeks work there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭hillsiderunner


    Looks like an interesting week of running. Good luck for Jingle Bells next Saturday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Firedance wrote: »
    well done on the sessions C, that looks like a good weeks work there.
    Looks like an interesting week of running. Good luck for Jingle Bells next Saturday!

    Thanks, guys!

    Will need all the luck I can get for the JB. Cross fingers for good weather!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Thanks, guys!

    Will need all the luck I can get for the JB. Cross fingers for good weather!! :D

    I think you might surprise yourself at JB, C. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Well, this was it. The big test of my fitness and abilities since the marathon. I had mentioned on the DCM Graduates thread that I was feeling anxious about this race, because I didn't want to run it and discover that nothing had changed. I wasn't chasing a PB for the sake of a PB, but I really did want to see that I had improved as a runner and that I'd be able to give it my all in a race and see a difference.

    If nothing had changed, I would have been so dejected and disheartened. So I went into the race a little bit afraid, a lot nervous but also very determined.

    Myles had given me a good strategy for the race...to run the first two miles at a pace of between 12:15-12:25 min/mile, then, at the end of the Ordnance Survey Road, to just let it all out and give it my best.

    That's what I did.

    The morning of:

    Race prep was easy. Up at 8am for toast with peanut butter and banana. Got dressed and all my gear on (with on exception! More later!) and I was ready with time to spare.

    I think my nerves, or my nervous thoughts at least, got the better of me and I made a few mistakes that I normally wouldn’t do. One of those mistakes was getting off the bus two stops early. I felt bad for the guy who followed me off the bus! He is new to Dublin and assumed I knew where I was going! Ah well, we got a lovely warm up in!

    Second thing I did, which I didn’t find out until I’d gotten to the start line (early, thankfully!) was forget to put my chip on my shoe! I couldn’t believe it when I realized! I jogged down to the clubhouse and luckily I was able to get a new number and chip. Walked back up to the start line still with 20 minutes to spare so it wasn’t a total disaster and I got an extra warm up in!

    Hanging around the start, met Singer, Whoopsa and Toulouse. Then stuck my bag in the van and went to find a spot in the start line.

    While waiting for the start, my Garmin started acting up. Normally I’d be ok with that but today, without a start mat, I really needed the Garmin time! So after the first false start, and during the second real start, I hung back a little until I had the signal. Then, I hit ‘start’ and off I went!

    Mile 1: 12.25

    Heading up Acres Road was a bit of a challenge with lots of people and kids to contend with. I tried not to weave and dodge but sometimes it couldn’t be helped. I really wanted to push for the pace Myles had set for me so I was happy when I got onto Chesterfield and found a clear spot.

    It was windy! I was finally running fast enough to still be around people so I tried to tuck in behind some runners. This didn’t really work as the wind was changing direction all over the place. Oh well, I had managed to get to a good pace and was happy to be holding on to it. (To clarify, I am usually so slow that I often run races alone...this race was different!)

    It wasn’t easy though. 1st mile and I was already hurting! But, hurting is good. I remembered what I had seen people saying about runners who are working hard, breathe hard and that hurt is a good thing. I knew I was working hard so that kept me going.

    Mile 2: 12.21

    More of Chesterfield, mostly running with a kids running club (very energetic kids they were!) and then on to the Ordnance Survey Road where the wind hit me right in the face. Honestly, some gusts were so strong they blew me backwards! I had to work harder to hold my pace, and I was a bit worried about getting to the end of the road…the crossroads where I was supposed to pick up the pace! I had to up the effort level against the wind to keep the pace I was setting but even though it was hurting, I still felt capable of it, if that makes any sense.

    Mile 3: 11:18

    Toughest mile by far. I know Upper Glen Road like the back of my hand so I didn’t have to worry about route or anything. I was able to concentrate on just pure running. Towards the beginning of the mile I noticed my pace had dropped to 10:57 min/m which I felt was unsustainable considering I still had the bulk of a mile left to go so I slowed down a tad. I think it was the right decision in the end considering the state I was in at the finish!

    From Upper Glen Road I started picking off people to pass and ended up passing all of them. That felt good!

    Running down the hill wasn’t the bonus it could have been, the wind against me nearly cancelled out the downhill effect! But, I still legged it to the finish, even though my body was hurting and I could feel my throat starting to close up as I was on the verge of having to hurl. No way was I stopping though, not this close to the finish! I’m not really used to approaching a finish line with other runners but luckily I didn’t have to dodge anyone and I ran straight through.

    Stopped my Garmin at 37.07. Official gun time 28:06. Either way you look at it, it’s a PB. :D (I should add, I’m going more by my watch time because I’m not sure where the actual starting line was, and I had been moving so slowly after the gun went, trying to get my Garmin to connect. It does register 3.1 miles so I think it’s ok.)

    Post-Race

    Confession time: This was really the first time I’ve ever tried to actually race a 5k. Previous races I always held back a little, afraid of pushing myself and maybe not finishing or running so hard I hurl in front of everyone. Now that I’m aiming for faster times, I know that I can’t hold back like I used to. One thing I’ve learned during marathon training was that no matter how hard or how long or how exhausting the run, it’s not debilitating and I will recover. I can’t be afraid anymore; or rather, I can be afraid but I can’t let that fear hold me back.

    Anyway, after the race I was very wobbly on my legs! I felt like a newborn deer trying to stay standing! Luckily I ran into (haha! More like wobbled!) Singer and he helped steady me while I got my bag and post-race rewards. Once I got my legs under control we headed off to Ryan’s. I wasn’t originally going to go but other plans fell through so I was free.

    All in all I think it was a good race, I was glad to have a strategy suited to my level, and I’m very glad for the PB. Giving credit where credit is due, thanks Myles for the training plan and coaching!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭diego_b


    Great report C, well done to you!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭unaaine


    Great report and congrats on the PB, no mean achievement given the conditions!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Well done, great report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Very light week training wise, mostly getting ready for the Jingle Bells.

    Monday: 2 miles easy

    Was going to be a 2 mile easy run but I ended up not doing this. The previous week caught up with me and I was exhausted from both the busyness and lack of sleep. I did get in a 3 mile walk so it wasn't a total write off.

    Wednesday: 2 miles easy, 6x20 sec @ 12-12.30m/min with 90 sec jog + cool down

    Lap 1: 16.26 (avg)
    Lap 2: 16.26 (avg)
    Lap 3: 12.26
    Laps 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14: 90 sec jog
    Lap 5: 11.47
    Lap 7: 12.18
    Lap 9: 12.15
    Lap 11: 12.07
    Lap 13: 12.41

    Lap 15: 17.42 (cooldown, just under half a mile)

    Despite still feeling tired from the week I managed this pretty well. I felt good and capable and knew this was good prep for the Jingle Bells.

    Saturday: Jingle Bells 5k...see above for race report.

    Sunday morning weight: 95.6kg

    The week ahead

    Running. Lots and lots of running! 2 easy runs, an interval run, a steady state run and a long run. More of the same basically but it's obviously working in more ways than one, so I'm happy enough!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭jake1970


    Well done C and congrats on the PB. Any more races planned ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    jake1970 wrote: »
    Well done C and congrats on the PB. Any more races planned ?

    Thank you! I'm signing up for the Raheny 5 mile next year...definitely hoping to PB on this one! It's about time my 5 mile times started to fall!

    Between now and then, I just want to concentrate on training well!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Auntie Matter


    Well done on the Jingle Bells PB! Glad to see "Project Speedy" is showing results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭FIFA2004


    Congratulations TFGR! Saw your teeshirt and was about 200m behind you for the last 2 or 3km, trying to catch you!! Figured if I could I'd be doing alright! Hadnt a hope when you got going near the end! Was 30 seconds behind in the end.
    I'm fairly similar in terms of times and weight and stuff (no hope I could do a marathon though!!!) so love your log and blog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Thanks jake, AM and FIFA for the posts! Made my week! :D

    So, no rest for the wicked! After my PB at the Jingle Bells 5k, I have a renewed determination to beat the clock and get my times down. That, of course, entails some serious training so the week has been challenging. The benefits far outweigh the effort though and I'm enjoying knowing I have and will continue to improve. So bring it on!

    Tuesday: 3 miles easy (16.26, 15.23, 15.20)

    Thursday: 2 miles easy, 10x1min @ 12.30-13 min/mile pace with 2 min rec + cool down

    Tough run! Windy and rainy at times. Towards the end it got really difficult but I persevered and finished. The slower laps are from running against the wind and around a corner. For the effort I was putting in, I don't mind that the pace reads outside the goal pace!

    Lap 1: 15.39
    Lap 2: 15.41
    Lap 3: 12.46
    Lap 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20: 2 mile recovery walk
    Lap 5: 12.57
    Lap 7: 13.50
    Lap 9: 13.04
    Lap 11: 12.36
    Lap 13: 13.37
    Lap 15: 12.31
    Lap 16: 12.57
    Lap 17: 13.17
    Lap 19: 12.38
    Lap 20: 18.02 (cool down 0.18 miles)

    Friday: 3 miles easy (14.21, 16.00, 15.50)

    That first mile did NOT feel like a 14.21 mile! I wonder if my Garmin read it wrong?!

    Saturday: 3 miles @ 14 min pace

    Mile 1: 14.03
    Mile 2: 13.58
    Mile 3: 13.53

    Hardest run of the week effort-wise mostly due to being overly tired. My own fault and I'll be writing more about that later. Still glad I hit the right effort and pace though. Was wrecked afterwards but chuffed with myself too!

    Sunday: 7 miles easy (15.46, 16.14, 15.56, 14.47, 14.58, 15.31, 15.47)

    Splits all over the place on this one! Somewhere around the halfway mark, Firedance came up behind and ran with me for a few 100m while we chatted (thank you for that!) and didn't realise I had sped up! After that I got soaked running through ankle deep puddles so really just wanted to get home. I tried to hold back but just couldn't. Not too badly off pace though so it wasn't a huge loss.

    Sunday morning weight: 95.7kg

    The week ahead

    More of the same really! Have a Christmas work do on Friday but I never go wild so it won't affect my training.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    oops sorry C! hope I didn't throw out your splits too much, nice to see you again, it was WET! Ii hope your fed & dry now :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    That's a really nice week's running! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    That first mile did NOT feel like a 14.21 mile! I wonder if my Garmin read it wrong?!

    .

    +1 to Singer's comment...and don't forget to let your body tell you what pace and effort you were going at ;):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Firedance wrote: »
    oops sorry C! hope I didn't throw out your splits too much, nice to see you again, it was WET! Ii hope your fed & dry now :)

    Not at all! I was only thinking moments before how I've never run and talked with someone and it would be nice to try! I had passed a few groups of people and eavesdropped on their conversations :P So it was great to experience it for myself! :D
    Singer wrote: »
    That's a really nice week's running! :)

    Thanks! It was tough, I gotta be honest, but I'm glad I go through it all!
    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    +1 to Singer's comment...and don't forget to let your body tell you what pace and effort you were going at ;):D

    Thanks! I swear that mile felt more slow than it turned out, it didn't feel hard at all, felt easy and I wasn't even breathing hard! I'm certain it was slower than the Garmin says it was. Stoopid Garmin! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Well, this was it. The big test of my fitness and abilities since the marathon. I had mentioned on the DCM Graduates thread that I was feeling anxious about this race, because I didn't want to run it and discover that nothing had changed. I wasn't chasing a PB for the sake of a PB, but I really did want to see that I had improved as a runner and that I'd be able to give it my all in a race and see a difference.

    If nothing had changed, I would have been so dejected and disheartened. So I went into the race a little bit afraid, a lot nervous but also very determined.

    Myles had given me a good strategy for the race...to run the first two miles at a pace of between 12:15-12:25 min/mile, then, at the end of the Ordnance Survey Road, to just let it all out and give it my best.

    That's what I did.

    The morning of:

    Race prep was easy. Up at 8am for toast with peanut butter and banana. Got dressed and all my gear on (with on exception! More later!) and I was ready with time to spare.

    I think my nerves, or my nervous thoughts at least, got the better of me and I made a few mistakes that I normally wouldn’t do. One of those mistakes was getting off the bus two stops early. I felt bad for the guy who followed me off the bus! He is new to Dublin and assumed I knew where I was going! Ah well, we got a lovely warm up in!

    Second thing I did, which I didn’t find out until I’d gotten to the start line (early, thankfully!) was forget to put my chip on my shoe! I couldn’t believe it when I realized! I jogged down to the clubhouse and luckily I was able to get a new number and chip. Walked back up to the start line still with 20 minutes to spare so it wasn’t a total disaster and I got an extra warm up in!

    Hanging around the start, met Singer, Whoopsa and Toulouse. Then stuck my bag in the van and went to find a spot in the start line.

    While waiting for the start, my Garmin started acting up. Normally I’d be ok with that but today, without a start mat, I really needed the Garmin time! So after the first false start, and during the second real start, I hung back a little until I had the signal. Then, I hit ‘start’ and off I went!

    Mile 1: 12.25

    Heading up Acres Road was a bit of a challenge with lots of people and kids to contend with. I tried not to weave and dodge but sometimes it couldn’t be helped. I really wanted to push for the pace Myles had set for me so I was happy when I got onto Chesterfield and found a clear spot.

    It was windy! I was finally running fast enough to still be around people so I tried to tuck in behind some runners. This didn’t really work as the wind was changing direction all over the place. Oh well, I had managed to get to a good pace and was happy to be holding on to it. (To clarify, I am usually so slow that I often run races alone...this race was different!)

    It wasn’t easy though. 1st mile and I was already hurting! But, hurting is good. I remembered what I had seen people saying about runners who are working hard, breathe hard and that hurt is a good thing. I knew I was working hard so that kept me going.

    Mile 2: 12.21

    More of Chesterfield, mostly running with a kids running club (very energetic kids they were!) and then on to the Ordnance Survey Road where the wind hit me right in the face. Honestly, some gusts were so strong they blew me backwards! I had to work harder to hold my pace, and I was a bit worried about getting to the end of the road…the crossroads where I was supposed to pick up the pace! I had to up the effort level against the wind to keep the pace I was setting but even though it was hurting, I still felt capable of it, if that makes any sense.

    Mile 3: 11:18

    Toughest mile by far. I know Upper Glen Road like the back of my hand so I didn’t have to worry about route or anything. I was able to concentrate on just pure running. Towards the beginning of the mile I noticed my pace had dropped to 10:57 min/m which I felt was unsustainable considering I still had the bulk of a mile left to go so I slowed down a tad. I think it was the right decision in the end considering the state I was in at the finish!

    From Upper Glen Road I started picking off people to pass and ended up passing all of them. That felt good!

    Running down the hill wasn’t the bonus it could have been, the wind against me nearly cancelled out the downhill effect! But, I still legged it to the finish, even though my body was hurting and I could feel my throat starting to close up as I was on the verge of having to hurl. No way was I stopping though, not this close to the finish! I’m not really used to approaching a finish line with other runners but luckily I didn’t have to dodge anyone and I ran straight through.

    Stopped my Garmin at 37.07. Official gun time 28:06. Either way you look at it, it’s a PB. :D (I should add, I’m going more by my watch time because I’m not sure where the actual starting line was, and I had been moving so slowly after the gun went, trying to get my Garmin to connect. It does register 3.1 miles so I think it’s ok.)

    Post-Race

    Confession time: This was really the first time I’ve ever tried to actually race a 5k. Previous races I always held back a little, afraid of pushing myself and maybe not finishing or running so hard I hurl in front of everyone. Now that I’m aiming for faster times, I know that I can’t hold back like I used to. One thing I’ve learned during marathon training was that no matter how hard or how long or how exhausting the run, it’s not debilitating and I will recover. I can’t be afraid anymore; or rather, I can be afraid but I can’t let that fear hold me back.

    Anyway, after the race I was very wobbly on my legs! I felt like a newborn deer trying to stay standing! Luckily I ran into (haha! More like wobbled!) Singer and he helped steady me while I got my bag and post-race rewards. Once I got my legs under control we headed off to Ryan’s. I wasn’t originally going to go but other plans fell through so I was free.

    All in all I think it was a good race, I was glad to have a strategy suited to my level, and I’m very glad for the PB. Giving credit where credit is due, thanks Myles for the training plan and coaching!!

    Well done in Jingle Bells! And that was me who tapped you on the shoulder at the baggage van to say 'good luck'! (I was wearing a black plastic bag to keep the rain off so you may not have recognised me :))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Fairly average week for me this week. I don't feel I did particularly well with the running, but I didn't do badly either. I have enjoyed the mild weather though, I consider it a blessing!

    Running on slightly different days this week due to life/plans getting in the way.

    Tuesday: 3 mile easy run (15.49, 16.06, 15.41)

    Wednesday: 1 mile warm up, 5x3min @ 13-13.30min/mile pace with 2 min rec, 1 mile easy

    Botched this one a little bit as my Garmin decided to stop beeping my intervals! I ended up running a rest interval instead of walking it like I should have. None the worse for wear for it however so it's all good.

    Lap 1: 15.41 (1 mile easy)
    Lap 2: 13.29
    Lap 3, 5, 9, 11: 2 min recovery walk
    Lap 4: 13.08
    Lap 6: 13.07
    Lap 7: 13.21 (should have been at recovery/walk pace!)
    Lap 8: 13.33
    Lap 10: 13.14
    Lap 12: 16.55 (1 mile easy)

    Thursday: 3 mile easy run (15.38, 15.55, 15.26)

    Saturday: 3 mile easy run (16.00, 16.18, 15.26) Not bad for the morning after the office Christmas party! In fairness I only had three drinks interspersed with two pints of water over the evening and I left at half eleven, was home before mid-night.)

    Sunday: 6 mile progression run

    A bit more difficult than it should have been but I chalk that up to the wind and lack of sleep*. Still, it was a fabulous, clear and warm day, despite the wind and I really enjoyed it. I was out quite early so had clear paths. Nice to run into Firedance again :D

    Coach's orders were to aim for 16, 16, 15, 15, 14, and 13 minute miles. I think I did ok although I'm not happy about the last mile, I was actually running it faster than the final split and would have hit closer to the 13 if not for having to run the last few 100m against the wind!! But, I was still expending a good effort so I will have to just let it goooooo let it gooooo :P)

    Mile 1: 16.02
    Mile 2: 15.55
    Mile 3: 15.21
    Mile 4: 15.04
    Mile 5: 14.23
    Mile 6: 13.36

    Sunday morning weight: 96.7 (not surprising. Probably my worst week of the year for eating crap! Lunch with co workers on Thursday and the office Christmas party on Friday not to mention a mince pie during the week and a very cheeky small breakfast roll too! Next week will be back to normal!)

    *Yeah, about that

    So I'm starting to realize that my problem with getting enough sleep is really having a detriment on me, both personally and physically.I feel like my running is more of a struggle than it should be because I'm constantly tired from not having slept. That, with other stresses and the worst case of winter blues I've ever had, is getting harder to handle and I'm struggling, really struggling to keep my head above water. I feel like if only i could just get a good nights sleep, or a few good nights, then I'd be ok. So I'm working on trying to sort it out, starting with making sure to turn of all tech and close the books, lights out etc before 11pm. Even if I'm laying awake until 3 am (like I was last night), I'll just close my eyes and call it rest instead of getting back up to read or watch a video or something. I'll see how things go over the next week or two and keeping my fingers crossed it works.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    Looks like a good running week to me, and progression run had all the
    Prescribed attributes, progression, keep up the good work, nice warm
    Bath before bed may help, always hard to switch mind off at this time
    Of year with so much happening. But as they say this too shall pass &
    tomorrow brings a fresh start. Happy running ��


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Kennyg71 wrote: »
    Looks like a good running week to me, and progression run had all the
    Prescribed attributes, progression, keep up the good work, nice warm
    Bath before bed may help, always hard to switch mind off at this time
    Of year with so much happening. But as they say this too shall pass &
    tomorrow brings a fresh start. Happy running ��

    Thanks, Kenny.

    I don't have a bath in my apartment, just a shower. I've sometimes considered booking a hotel room for a night just so I could have a proper soak!!

    Will keep your words in mind and hope for that fresh start!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭denis b


    Another nice weeks running C. See that you have a target race in Raheny coming up. I have signed up as well. Keep training and will be nice to see the continuing progress when that clock stops on the 31st!!.

    I have struggled with sleep, at times. Rarely get enough but I have started to tackle it since the DCM. Am an early enough riser so its to bed by 10.15 unless its an emergency. The routine helps. Can only echo Kennyg71 words that it will pass. Just have to accept it and set out your own routine that works for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    Raheny5 next target for me as well c u both there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Novices reunion at Raheny 5 me thinks !!! Great running C..... have a great Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Sick with my usual yearly cold. Darn it! Fourth year in a row it always happens the last day of work. I feel wretched and that's with as much medication as I'm allowed to take. :(

    Won't be running much this week I have a feeling. I'd rather expend the energy to get well and I absolutely have to be well for volunteering on Friday!!

    I'm really disappointed though. I was hoping to escape it this year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Mrs Mc wrote: »
    Novices reunion at Raheny 5 me thinks !!!

    I've given in to peer pressure and registered for Raheny too :)
    Sick with my usual yearly cold. Darn it! Fourth year in a row it always happens the last day of work. I feel wretched and that's with as much medication as I'm allowed to take. :(

    Oh no :( - take it easy and recover well (sounds just like running advice :) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Singer wrote: »
    I've given in to peer pressure and registered for Raheny too :)



    Oh no :( - take it easy and recover well (sounds just like running advice :) )

    Another one woh woh !!! Hope you feel better c :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    And now back to your regularly scheduled programming :P

    After my usual Christmas flu/cold/exhaustion and some recovery time after that, it's been that long since I've been running. But I'm back to a routine now and looking forward to getting stuck in to training!

    This year my goals are to run a sub-30 5k, a sub-60 5m and to PB at the WMM 10k this summer. I may also sign up to run a half marathon later in the year. No marathon plans for me this year but fully intend to run one (in better condition!) in 2017. Still working with Myles on the training plans and very happy to have his input!

    Also going to work on the weight loss as I know that if I'm lighter, it will be easier to run faster! In conjunction with that I'm going to work on my sleep issues also.

    I'll post my usual week of training on Sunday. Will have the usual easy runs, interval runs and long run to report on. I'm interested in seeing how I get on considering the long break.

    Anyway, it's good to be back!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    Best of Luck with Goals, Happy New Year


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