Trick or treaters and those who dont partake in it

allibastor

Hey all,

A quick thing I would like to ask ( and rant) about.

I noticed a lot of kids out on Saturday doing the trick or treating, but many of the kids I saw are from houses that are blacked out on the night, and don't answer the door to other kids.
I brought my own young ones out and it was shocking the amount of houses whose kids were out trick or treating but didn't have a decoration up or give out anything!

Any one else experience this?

Mr.Carter

Egg their house.

Turtyturd

Knock back tonight, they won't expect it. An added bonus is they'll probably have to give you something from their own little sh*t's haul.

blackbird 49

Some people are way past Halloween, other just don't bother answering, especially if it is a older estate where there are no young children or very few, when my own children were young I would always tell them go to the houses that have Halloween decorations in the Windows or on the front door

The Backwards Man

Some people have more sense.

Saadyst

Trick or treating used to be good back in the day

Nowadays there's no "trick" anymore, kids just come up to the door and stick their hand out...

petrolcan

Whatever happened to mummering?

allibastor

blackbird 49 wrote: »

Some people are way past Halloween, other just don't bother answering, especially if it is a older estate where there are no young children or very few, when my own children were young I would always tell them go to the houses that have Halloween decorations in the Windows or on the front door

My thing though is that a good lot of the kids who called to my own house, I know them and their parents ( nearly all non-nationals) whos kids are small, 3-9 who were out in full force, but don't seem to celebrate it at home.

I did say it to one, his answer was its not a big deal back home, but the kids love to get sweets.

On our run out on Saturday I think only about 12 houses actually looked dressed up and answered the door of the 80+ we live near/

daheff

Not everybody likes Halloween. Some people dont want kids knocking to their door all night and feel that they have to give them stuff. It can be an expense they dont need or want.


the bit that gets me is people bringing their kids to different town because their friends say theres a better haul to be had there. That boils my blood. I only give to the local kids, and would only expect my kids to get from people where we live.

AnonoBoy

GET THOSE DAMN KIDS OFF MY LAWN!!!!

:mad:

Lollipops23

Ah jesus lads, it's not exactly a big ask and I'd wager that 99% of those who are "over" Halloween were out knocking every year themselves when they were small.

I had a fair few callers this year (more than years past, but there's a younger population in my estate now) and it was all over and done by 7pm. Spend the grand total of €6 on a massive tin of sweets and a bag of Smarties minis from Lidl.

Grandeeod

daheff wrote: »

the bit that gets me is people bringing their kids to different town because their friends say theres a better haul to be had there. That boils my blood. I only give to the local kids, and would only expect my kids to get from people where we live.

THIS.

Witnessed it on Saturday night. Cars parked all over the friggin place as the assault from outside the area began. Mammies and large groups of kids racing to get ahead of the next group. My missus and daughter went around the estate with other local kids, so I stayed at home to answer the door. I ran out of stuff within 40 odd minutes. Then I just stood on the doorstep smoking a ciggie. I think it unintentionally gave the impression I was some weirdo as the Mammies ushered their kids onto the next house.:D

Duggy747

If they manage to pass my moat then I have to man the turret on the roof and fire out a net to stop them.

If the little feckers dodge the net then I release the "hounds"

My 3 rabbits

If they bypass the hounds then I've no choice but to detonate the charges and bring the house down.





I just don't like answering the door...

The Backwards Man

petrolcan wrote: »

Whatever happened to mummering?

That's a Christmas thing. Be starting soon I'd say, there was a good revival of it around here for a few years but tailing off again

Sh1tbag OToole

More Americanized stuff making it's way in rabble rabble

Samaris

We didn't have a single child around this year - or last year, if it comes to that. It seems to have totally gone quiet in this area.

RobertKK

Some parts have not been Americanised yet, or Americanized yet.

Medusa22

Ah now, I am not even particularly fond of children (ok, I have to admit that I don't like them at all) but I definitely get a kick out of getting dressed up and answering the door to them and seeing them in their costumes and giving them sweets, they are just delighted with themselves then and I remember how much I loved it when I was a kid. I'm the last person to spend any time around children if I can avoid it but I always get plenty of sweets in for the kids and put up decorations, it's a nice thing to do and they are usually quite appreciative.

Ok, ok, I also admit that I buy way too many sweets so when the trick or treaters have finished coming around I gorge myself on the leftovers

allibastor

Medusa22 wrote: »

Ah now, I am not even particularly fond of children (ok, I have to admit that I don't like them at all) but I definitely get a kick out of getting dressed up and answering the door to them and seeing them in their costumes and giving them sweets, they are just delighted with themselves then and I remember how much I loved it when I was a kid. I'm the last person to spend any time around children if I can avoid it but I always get plenty of sweets in for the kids and put up decorations, it's a nice thing to do and they are usually quite appreciative.

Ok, ok, I also admit that I buy way too many sweets so when the trick or treaters have finished coming around I gorge myself on the leftovers

It is good to see that you still partake, even though the smallies are not your own. Good going !

keithclancy

I'm really glad I'm wasn't in Ireland on Halloween.

Scummers egging people and houses
Bonfires all over the place
Bangers going off every few minutes and driving the dog nuts

Saw on the news there was around 700 calls to the Fire Brigade and that people were firing stuff at them.

No Thanks.

iguana

Op, maybe the houses of people out trick or treating were dark because because the people who live there were out trick or treating. This was my first year out since the 80s and I was utterly shocked by the generosity of people. We only went to a few decorated houses as my son is only nearly 3 and has a broken leg but he got 5-10 things at every house with some houses even giving out home baking to the parents. We came home early and put our Halloween lights on but had no callers. We live just outside the nearest estates and are quite set back from the road so I don't think we'll ever get trick or treaters which is a pity as I love having the kids call.

Saadyst wrote: »

Trick or treating used to be good back in the day

Nowadays there's no "trick" anymore, kids just come up to the door and stick their hand out...

It's not Trick then Treat it's Trick or Treat, ie give the spirits a treat so they don't haunt you.

pwurple

Our house was dark and undecorated, because we were out with the kids in their costumes. Not knocking on doors, but at a halloween party with bopping for apples, the pile of flour, that kind of thing.

"Shocking" stuff indeed.

allibastor

pwurple wrote: »

Our house was dark and undecorated, because we were out with the kids in their costumes. Not knocking on doors, but at a halloween party with bopping for apples, the pile of flour, that kind of thing.

"Shocking" stuff indeed.

It is a bit if you have no decorations up at all!!!

TimeToShine

keithclancy wrote: »

I'm really glad I'm wasn't in Ireland on Halloween.

Scummers egging people and houses
Bonfires all over the place
Bangers going off every few minutes and driving the dog nuts

Saw on the news there was around 700 calls to the Fire Brigade and that people were firing stuff at them.

No Thanks.

In fairness none of that is actually down to the kids, cast your aspersions on the older crowd who are so adamantly opposed to giving people sweets yet have no problem starting bonfires and vandalising properties.

R P McMurphy

petrolcan wrote: »

Whatever happened to mummering?

There is a centre located on the cavan-fermanagh border near Derrylin, looks kind of wickermanish

kylith

If they're out with their kids how can they be at home answering the door?

diomed

Good training for children - finding out where is the best opportunity, making good use of their limited time, having fun with their friends, having the courage to ask for something, getting a little scared.
And dogs have to learn to get out of the way of fireworks.

eviltwin

I don't decorate the house, I've no interest, the kids have no interest. We still buy in sweets but we didn't get any callers this year. Maybe people think the lack of decorations is a subtle way of saying you don't want people calling. The decorations thing is a relatively new too, very American and nothing wrong with it but not doing it doesn't make you a miserable b@stard.

liz lemoncello

iguana wrote: »

Op, maybe the houses of people out trick or treating were dark because because the people who live there were out trick or treating. .....

In homes with two parents or more than one adult they can split the duties, but not everyone is in that position. In my case I went with my sister as she took my nephew and niece out while her OH stayed home and gave out the candy.

One thing we noticed, (here in Canada), is that only about a quarter of the houses took part, but of those that did, many went all out with the decorations: jack o'lanterns, huge inflatable or motion-activated figures, ghost trees, cemeteries, sound effects. The kids were tired so we weren't out long and we felt guilty about not visiting the houses where the people had put so much effort into it.

Paramite Pie

daheff wrote: »

Not everybody likes Halloween. Some people dont want kids knocking to their door all night and feel that they have to give them stuff. It can be an expense they dont need or want.

I think you missed the point.:P It's parent's letting their own kids out to trick or treat but not answering the door themselves. If you don't like Halloween then don't send your own kids out either. The point of the thread is that hypocrisy -- not households that don't participate at all.

**but your bang on about the migrational groups of kids from another estate

valoren

Sometimes you simply run out of stuff to give.

You can't be answering the door with no sweeties left

looksee

Whats with all the judgment of how people do halloween? Some do, some don't, doesn't mean anyone else has to have an opinion on it.

I had sweets ready but no kids called. I did not have decorations up, but I never do and kids have called other years. Just no kids around this area, this year.

Wizard!

I am from Greece. We do not have Halloween, but we have a similar custom on Christmas eve and New Years eve. Kids knock on our doors, singing songs accompanied by tubular bells. In older days we used to give them homemade traditional treats, nowadays most of us giving cash (and we have many incidents of thieves attacking kids during this period! :mad: )

I love this custom, since it reminds us of our childhood and if you have been walking for 3-4 hours singing songs to get some treats (or your new Playmobil Pirate Ship), we really understand the effort those kids are giving for their reward. Since our cities our overpopulated, and nothing like the estates here, we do not know where those kids are coming from but we really do not care.

We moved in Ireland 4 months ago, so no more Christmas callers for us. So, even though we weren't home on Saturday, we left a basket full of treats outside our door and a note saying "take your treats...". Me and my wife were anxious to see if the treats were gone, because we wanted some kids to be happy. Fortunately, by the time we returned home, the basket was empty. I do not know if this action was appreciated, or some kids thought "free treats, yeah! let's get them all", but we did our part and we liked it. Some customs need to live throughout the years, cause they are part of each country's culture and since Halloween is of Irish origin, I think is very important to keep doing it.

Just my 2c.

1hnr79jr65

Don't have kids, don't want other peoples kids calling to door.

Door knocker was removed 4 years ago and i disable the door bell the night before halloween and put it back together a week later, i like my quiet time.

smash

valoren wrote: »

You can't be answering the door with no sweeties left

Time to start turning tricks then!



Oh, wait...

_Kaiser_

Grandeeod wrote: »

THIS.

Witnessed it on Saturday night. Cars parked all over the friggin place as the assault from outside the area began. Mammies and large groups of kids racing to get ahead of the next group. My missus and daughter went around the estate with other local kids, so I stayed at home to answer the door. I ran out of stuff within 40 odd minutes. Then I just stood on the doorstep smoking a ciggie. I think it unintentionally gave the impression I was some weirdo as the Mammies ushered their kids onto the next house.:D

Mr Eastwood, I'm a big fan!

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Milly33

I always end up so disappointed at Halloween I love it and decorate the house ever year like all out. Put a sign out the first year to say trick r treaters welcome and still I only got about three. Done nothing this year decorating wise as we didn't have time but got sweets in and not one caller.. I saw all the kids passing...

spurious

We (well, herself) bought supplies this year and not one little beggar came. I've just finished the fifteenth little Haribo bag. I feel a bit ill.

Milly33

see you go to the effort and the little buggers don't call then.. I always feel so sad after even after eating all the sugar

Dirty Dingus McGee

allibastor wrote: »

Hey all,

A quick thing I would like to ask ( and rant) about.

I noticed a lot of kids out on Saturday doing the trick or treating, but many of the kids I saw are from houses that are blacked out on the night, and don't answer the door to other kids.
I brought my own young ones out and it was shocking the amount of houses whose kids were out trick or treating but didn't have a decoration up or give out anything!

Any one else experience this?

Perhaps some people don't want strange children scrounging at their house.

Surely a better idea for people who's children want to go trick or treating is for the parents in the area to organise for the children involved to go around to their houses only and not be annoying people who don't give a toss about Halloween.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

More Americanized stuff making it's way in rabble rabble

Not really.The tradition originated in Ireland.

It used to be called the hughadas (Irish spelling completely wrong) in our area.

allibastor

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Perhaps some people don't want strange children scrounging at their house.

Surely a better idea for people who's children want to go trick or treating is for the parents in the area to organise for the children involved to go around to their houses only and not be annoying people who don't give a toss about Halloween.

What?

I am not sure you even got my point, I was asking about parents who actively get their kids dressed up and bring them out trick or treating, obviously in full celebration of Halloween but whom then make no effort on their own houses and who refuse to answer the door to other children.
Oh, and in some cases you do see movement in the house from the people who had been out trick or treating earlier, to answer that question.

Badly Drunk Boy

pwurple wrote: »

Our house was dark and undecorated, because we were out with the kids in their costumes. Not knocking on doors, but at a halloween party with bopping for apples, the pile of flour, that kind of thing.

"Shocking" stuff indeed.

My house was dark and un-decorated, because I don't believe in telling kids to go around, getting sweets from strangers while telling them not to take strangers for the rest of the year.


Actually, I just hate people coming to my door and any time of the year. And I tense up when my phone rings. And I don't believe in Hallowe'en decorations. We never had them in my day. I haven't put up Christmas decorations in over 10 years. (I'm a very cheery chap!)

In the past, I usually haven't been home or I only have a few callers, even though I'm in an estate. This year, I didn't have anything in (after I finished the third box of Ferrero Rocher) so I didn't bother answering.

Milly33 wrote: »

I always end up so disappointed at Halloween I love it and decorate the house ever year like all out. Put a sign out the first year to say trick r treaters welcome and still I only got about three. Done nothing this year decorating wise as we didn't have time but got sweets in and not one caller.. I saw all the kids passing...

They obvious heard the stories of you trying too hard. Verrrry suspicious! Or they just heard stories... :pac:

Dirty Dingus McGee

allibastor wrote: »

What?

I am not sure you even got my point, I was asking about parents who actively get their kids dressed up and bring them out trick or treating, obviously in full celebration of Halloween but whom then make no effort on their own houses and who refuse to answer the door to other children.
Oh, and in some cases you do see movement in the house from the people who had been out trick or treating earlier, to answer that question.

I read the post more carefully this time.I see the point you are making.

Best response to that is not hand out any stuff to the families who are sending their children out trick or treating but aren't bothering with it themselves.

allibastor

looksee wrote: »

Whats with all the judgment of how people do halloween? Some do, some don't, doesn't mean anyone else has to have an opinion on it.

I had sweets ready but no kids called. I did not have decorations up, but I never do and kids have called other years. Just no kids around this area, this year.

The " judgement" is the people who do Halloween outside the home, to bring their kids out to get sweets, but who then refuse to do it in their own home.

It is not a judgement to be fair, I just think it is poor form, if you want to bring your kids out trick or treating, you should make a bit of effort at home!

And having an opinion is what boards is all about I thought, no?

iguana

eviltwin wrote: »

I don't decorate the house, I've no interest, the kids have no interest. We still buy in sweets but we didn't get any callers this year. Maybe people think the lack of decorations is a subtle way of saying you don't want people calling. The decorations thing is a relatively new too, very American and nothing wrong with it but not doing it doesn't make you a miserable b@stard.

Where I lived in London the neighbourhood association sent around a newsletter in mid-November with a picture of a pumpkin in it. If you were happy to have callers you stuck the picture on your front door (or otherwise decorated). I thought it was a great idea as those who wanted to participate did and those who didn't were left alone (a lot of people in England just hate Halloween). The kids had fun seeking out the doors with pumpkins on them, you could hear them outside get super excited each time they found one. But we all just had little London Victorian front gardens that are about 3ft deep, so it was easy to see a picture from the pavement.

I definitely think it's more and more common to just go to the decorated houses. You know you will get a good welcome and aren't going to bother anyone else. The two estate near me are full of young children so a lot of houses went all out with fake graves in the front gardens, light shows and lots of fireworks displays. It was amazing.

keithclancy

iguana wrote: »

Where I lived in London the neighbourhood association sent around a newsletter in mid-November with a picture of a pumpkin in it. If you were happy to have callers you stuck the picture on your front door (or otherwise decorated). I thought it was a great idea as those who wanted to participate did and those who didn't were left alone (a lot of people in England just hate Halloween). The kids had fun seeking out the doors with pumpkins on them, you could hear them outside get super excited each time they found one. But we all just had little London Victorian front gardens that are about 3ft deep, so it was easy to see a picture from the pavement.

I definitely think it's more and more common to just go to the decorated houses. You know you will get a good welcome and aren't going to bother anyone else. The two estate near me are full of young children so a lot of houses went all out with fake graves in the front gardens, light shows and lots of fireworks displays. It was amazing.

That's what our neighborhood association does as well.
This year I didn't put it out, nobody called to the door.

Walter Bishop

We went out to dinner to avoid the pesky kids. Got back about 8.45, settled on the couch and some ****er knocks on the door at 9.10. Probably some bollix of a teenager looking for money, that was ignored anyway.

iguana

Walter Bishop wrote: »

We went out to dinner to avoid the pesky kids. Got back about 8.45, settled on the couch and some ****er knocks on the door at 9.10. Probably some bollix of a teenager looking for money, that was ignored anyway.

You should have given them some of your red liquorice.:mad:

eviltwin

allibastor wrote: »

The " judgement" is the people who do Halloween outside the home, to bring their kids out to get sweets, but who then refuse to do it in their own home.

It is not a judgement to be fair, I just think it is poor form, if you want to bring your kids out trick or treating, you should make a bit of effort at home!

And having an opinion is what boards is all about I thought, no?

So if my kids go out and I don't do up my house with plastic crap in the windows that is bad form now?

oppenheimer1

iguana wrote: »

Where I lived in London the neighbourhood association sent around a newsletter in mid-November with a picture of a pumpkin in it. If you were happy to have callers you stuck the picture on your front door (or otherwise decorated). I thought it was a great idea as those who wanted to participate did and those who didn't were left alone (a lot of people in England just hate Halloween). The kids had fun seeking out the doors with pumpkins on them, you could hear them outside get super excited each time they found one. But we all just had little London Victorian front gardens that are about 3ft deep, so it was easy to see a picture from the pavement.

I definitely think it's more and more common to just go to the decorated houses. You know you will get a good welcome and aren't going to bother anyone else. The two estate near me are full of young children so a lot of houses went all out with fake graves in the front gardens, light shows and lots of fireworks displays. It was amazing.

In mid-November??