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    #242
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,369 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    silverharp wrote: »
    ..I couldnt have got the name more wrong, I meant Humans , it was based off a Swedish TV show , Im curious to watch the Swedish version now to see if it brings up any issues around men and feminism in Sweden?

    Yep, that's the one whose Wikipedia article I linked to. I've only seen one episode of the UK version. Seemed somewhat plain.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

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    #243
    Saipanne
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    I spotted this on Facebook, just now. Seriously, when did feminism change from a movement about liberty for women, to a pseudo cult intent on wiping out individual thought? Does everything have to be labeled like this? Where is the logical conclusion of all this, its like they want newspeak to become reality...

    http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/12/focusing-on-her-pleasure/?utm_content=buffer93209


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    #244
    Sleepy
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    silverharp wrote: »
    ..I couldnt have got the name more wrong, I meant Humans , it was based off a Swedish TV show , Im curious to watch the Swedish version now to see if it brings up any issues around men and feminism in Sweden?
    I watched the Channel 4 version but I'm not sure what relevance it had to equality issues? The mother of the family seemed to be the primary earner whilst the father did more of the kids stuff and there were definitely some themes explored around the mother not being able to be as close to her young daughter as she wanted (due to having a high pressure career) but I'm not sure I see much relevance to Feminism in the show?


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    #245
    Saipanne
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    This seemed fitting.


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    #246
    py2006
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    Saipanne wrote: »
    This seemed fitting.

    Who teaches those things to be fair? I was never thought to be any of those things or not to cry etc. Its just natural. I do have a sensitive/caring side and it has been noticed.

    *walks down to the hall door to see if a queue of ladies is forming...*


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    #247
    silverharp
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    Sleepy wrote: »
    I watched the Channel 4 version but I'm not sure what relevance it had to equality issues? The mother of the family seemed to be the primary earner whilst the father did more of the kids stuff and there were definitely some themes explored around the mother not being able to be as close to her young daughter as she wanted (due to having a high pressure career) but I'm not sure I see much relevance to Feminism in the show?
    In terms of the alleged "sexodus" and feminists losing their sh1t over sex robots and wanting them banned. ie if robots were as good as suggested would men start throwing in the towel and go with the robot over the real thing. In the UK version they had robot brothels and the husband and teenage son having or wanting to have sex with the robot character Anita.
    So given that Sweden is the supposed feminist capital of the world might the show delve into the issue a bit more and either take the feminist position or hint that men might be getting p1ssed off and will turn to alternatives?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #248
    Wibbs
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    py2006 wrote: »
    Who teaches those things to be fair? I was never thought to be any of those things or not to cry etc.
    That's a far more American based thing IMH Py. As much of the "gender war" guff is. The whole US jock culture sorta thing. Add in ivory tower "leftie" feminism and we are where we are, or more they are.
    silverharp wrote: »
    So given that Sweden is the supposed feminist capital of the world might the show delve into the issue a bit more and either take the feminist position or hint that men might be getting p1ssed off and will turn to alternatives?
    From what I recall of the original Swedish version it examined all sorts of philosophical and psychological aspects of the idea of robot humans, but nothing I recall with any feminism stuff along for the ride. If anything the UK version had more of that going on and even then it was minimal enough. IMH the Swedish version(Real Humans) was superior and went beyond just one family and examined more around the subject of identity and humanity. Their androids were (mostly) less human and more obviously artificial than the UK androids.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #249
    Potatoeman
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    py2006 wrote: »
    Who teaches those things to be fair? I was never thought to be any of those things or not to cry etc. Its just natural. I do have a sensitive/caring side and it has been noticed.

    *walks down to the hall door to see if a queue of ladies is forming...*

    It depends on how sensitive you mean. I have heard that there is a phycological barrier, where too sensitive is seen as weak by women. That it doesn't suit their traditional expectations of men and it is something they are not even aware of. Unconcious bias is not easy to prove one way or the other.


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    the evasion_kid
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    Potatoeman wrote: »
    It depends on how sensitive you mean. I have heard that there is a phycological barrier, where too sensitive is seen as weak by women. That it doesn't suit their traditional expectations of men and it is something they are not even aware of. Unconcious bias is not easy to prove one way or the other.

    "thou goest to women?do not forget thy whip" - nietzsche


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    #251
    silverharp
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    Potatoeman wrote: »
    It depends on how sensitive you mean. I have heard that there is a phycological barrier, where too sensitive is seen as weak by women. That it doesn't suit their traditional expectations of men and it is something they are not even aware of. Unconcious bias is not easy to prove one way or the other.

    At the end of the day you are who you are, but I think some guys make the mistake of thinking that being right on with women's issues or trying to feminise themselves will get them more attention from women which is mostly incorrect.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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