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RWC'15 QF: Australia V Scotland. 16:00 Sunday, 18 Oct, Twickenham

  • 17-10-2015 2:38pm
    #1
    Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


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    Australia:
    1. Scott Sio, 2. Stephen Moore (c), 3. Sekope Kepu, 4. Kane Douglas, 5. Rob Simmons, 6. Scott Fardy, 7. Michael Hooper, 8. Ben McCalman, 9. Will Genia, 10. Bernard Foley, 11. Drew Mitchell, 12. Matt Giteau, 13. Tevita Kuridrani, 14. Adam Ashley-Cooper, 15. Kurtley Beale

    Replacements: 16. Tatafu Polota-Nau, 17. James Slipper, 18. Greg Holmes, 19. Dean Mumm, 20. Sean McMahon, 21. Nick Phipps, 22. Matt Toomua, 23. Quade Cooper

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    Scotland: (probable)
    1. Alasdair Dickinson, 2. Fraser Brown, 3. WP Nel, 4. Jonny Gray, 5. Richie Gray, 6. Blair Cowan, 7. John Hardie, 8. Dave Denton, 9. Greig Laidlaw (c), 10. Finn Russell, 11. Tommy Seymour, 12. Pete Horne, 13. Mark Bennett, 14. Sean Maitland, 15. Stuart Hogg

    Replacements: 16. Ross Ford, 17. Gordon Reid, 18. Jon Welsh, 19. Alasdair Strokosch, 20. Josh Strauss, 21. Henry Pyrgos, 22. Richie Vernon, 23. Sean Lamont

    Preview
    The last time Australia and Scotland met in a rugby world cup game was back in 2003 at the quarter final stage. Both teams came into the game in much the same form they are at the moment. Australia, in their home world cup, were cantering along. Having put up ridiculously high scores against Romania and Namibia (the 142 – 0 Namibia game is still a world record RWC score line) they passed their first real test with a 1 point win over us Irish in the final pool game, to clinch top spot.
    The scots however were in much shakier form. Having shipped 51 points versus the French in their ‘top of the table’ clash in round 3 they faced a fijian side in the final pool round where a win was necessary to go continue in the competition. The scots trailed 20 – 15 in the 78th minute when prop Tom Smith eventually barged over the line, with Paterson adding the cherry.
    So going into the quarter final the scots were described as clueless, hopeless and a joke, with the wallaby coach having been quoted as say “we should win this blindfolded”. Well, that complacency must have followed his team onto the park as the first half threw up a bruising encounter that no one except the scots really expected. Going into the break at 9 - 9 the scots had frustrated and annoyed the aussies at every opportunity. They were determined to hit the extremely talented Australian back line hard and fast every time, preventing clean ball to the aussie back three of Tuqiri, Sailor and Rogers. This was a proud Scotland team who took great offense to being called a joke.
    Eventually the Australian class rose, after a half time bollocking and helped in no small manner to some dodgy decision by some beautiful referee with fantastic hair. The aussies ran in 3 second half tries to pull away to a final score of 33- 16 and set up the semi against the all blacks.
    “whats the point of all this?” you ask…. Well this is just me trying to find some semblance of hope for this current Scottish team and some scenario in which they might win this game.
    Australia are the competitions form team at the moment, having come through the group of death in flying colours and with little disruption. Pocock and Folau both miss this game with niggling injuries, but both are expected back the following week. In Bernard Foley Australia have a player on fire, supreme in confidence in his own ability after a season of questions. His record of 89% from the tee is one of the best in the competition so far, and has showed no sign of being the weak point a lot of people predicted. McCalman comes into 8, which is a move that will bolster the aussie line out, an area the scots might thing they should be getting at least parity at. While Beale doesn’t have Folaus imperiousness under the high ball, hes still a very accomplished footballer and a player with something to prove, so he will be chomping at the bit to have a big impact on the game here.

    ‘Gray the better’ and Ross Ford are now available to play after their bans were over turned. How it will affect the line ups and preparation to receive this news 24 hours before kick off is anyone guess, but im sure Vern Cotter is delighted. Scotland would have been essentially down to their 3rd and 4th choice locks in the elder Gray and Swinson, but now Jonny and Richie can line out in a RWC quarter final with pride. Ford will probably return to the bench in place of Kevin Bryce

    Head to Head

    Hooper V Hardie

    Here are two players who know each other well from their club performances. Hoopers waratahs were super XV winners in 2014 and Hardies Highlanders winners in 2015 (yep, had to get that in here somewhere :pac:) Where Hooper is a constant blonde locked blur of activity, the elder Hardie is more conservative with his energy. His aim on Sunday will be to negate Hooper as much as possible. Id suggest if Hooper makes turnovers in this game it will be because Hardie will be the ball carrier. Hardies credentials may be suspect but hes a big reason Scotland are where they are as hi performance against Samoa was huge. His 14 carries was the highest of any scot that day, twice that of the next carrying forward, with Denton at 7 carries. Two world cup starts, two tries.

    Half back battle

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    Finn Russell is the great white hope in Scotland. The 23 year old already has 19 caps and is a celtic league winner. Against Australia hes going to have to have the perfect game for Scotland to have a chance. He has been known to have the odd mare however under pressure, like in this years 6N game versus wales where a dodgy day off the boot and from the hand was capped off with a yellow card for running under a jumping Dan Biggar. Greg Laidlaw has had a sold if unspectacular tournament so far, but that’s really what he brings to the table. His real strengths lay in his leadership as captain and his organising, oh and his dead eye off the tee (93% success). In 2003 Scotlands main strength was also their half backs of Brian Redpath and Christ Paterson. They faced off that day against the wonderful skills of George Gregan and Stephen Larkham, one of the best partnerships that ever took to a field. While Genia and Foley aren’t a patch on their predecessors, their partnership is working very well. Both suffered pretty poor seasons following their SXV wins and both have had to surpass talented players to claim the 9 and 10 jersies, Genia having a good season with the Reds has seen him picked ahead of Nick Phipps and Nic White. Foley has proven to be a more trustworthy than Quade Cooper, and Nick Toomua is seen as more of finisher in the 22 jersey.
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    Prediction

    Stephen Larkham was there in 2003, worn the tee shirt so to speak. Between him and Cheika they will certainly not allow any sense of complacency, buts that easier said than done. Scotland will point to the absence of Pocock as a plus at the breakdown, and at Folau as possible attacking option to drop bombs on Beale. This Scottish back line know each other inside out and if Russell fizzes we could be in for a high scoring exciting try filled game.
    The return of the Scottish ‘tip two’ will fill their team mates with some extra confidence, but not enough to get them over the line in my opinion.

    I can see Australia winning this by 4 tries to 2, probably around 36 – 17.

    Scotland will have to look beyond 2003... something i was unable to do :)


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I'm seeking sanctuary here from the idiots on the other side.

    Scotland you glorious bastards, do it for the nordies!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Come on Scotland.....we need cheering up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Coburger


    Two words to Scotland ..... "Good Luck"

    Honestly, here's hoping Scotland put it up to them. Come on Scotland!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 FPLLeebo


    Lets go Scotland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Sill start from Scotland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    That was try was coming. Could be a long match for Scotland if it continues like this.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Gwan the jocks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,292 ✭✭✭GreNoLi


    C'mon the Scotch!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Scotland now 13-5 up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Come on the Aussies!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    i know its early days but wouldnt it be hilarious if Scotland were the only northern hemisphere team to reach the semis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    tanko wrote: »
    i know its early days but wouldnt it be hilarious if Scotland were the only northern hemisphere team to reach the semis.

    No, and it won't happen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23 sorta_happy


    il never shout for scotland in anything but they are giving it a hell of a go here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ixus


    Tackler was 50m ahead of Mitchell kick never retreated. How did Joubert miss that? A joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Praying for Scotland here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Fair play to Scotland......but no panic for Oz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭stadedublinois


    ixus wrote: »
    Tackler was 50m ahead of Mitchell kick never retreated. How did Joubert miss that? A joke.

    Isn't everyone onside when the ball goes into touch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Huge call


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    Captain Hooper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    That was a well worked try for Oz. Scotland blew their chance when they were in a great position.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Orchard Rebel


    I've lost count of the number of times David Denton has done something daft that has cost Scotland....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    0/3 for Foley. My bet at -15 might regret those.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Scotland in thte lead at half time.....just.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Foley having a horror show from the tee, imagine Giteau will take the next kick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Al_Coholic


    Foley has been poor in every aspect of that first half


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Very Bored


    Come on Scotland! I didn't even watch the first half as I was expecting a mauling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Joubert letting the Scots away with murder at scrumtime.

    Aussies look disinterested. Real lack of intensity.

    Scotland really up for it. Easily the better team in the first half.

    Hope Australia get their act together in the second half.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Aussies will get a right telling off at half time from Cheika. I think they'll come out roaring after the break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    They still look like scoring tries regularly. Expect Aus to drift away, hopefully by over 15 points.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    One of the hallmarks of the Cheika reign has been the huge impact off the bench, so Scotland need to increase the gap in the first 10 mins of the second half.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    I'm amazed Scotland have started this well. At least they seem to be making a match of it. But they completely lost the head when they had a great position just before half time and Aus ended up getting a try at the other end. That worries me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    Harsh yellow, game over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    that's a disgrace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Yellow for Scotland.......that's harsh IMO!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,836 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    That's an absolutely disgrace of a yellow card


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    That's a ****ing disgraceful decision


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Al_Coholic


    no way...ref and TMO have ruined the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    The most ridiculous decision of the world cup so far


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    and all the yellow card offences in Ireland's game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    I actually can't believe that decision. That's compared horse ****.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Harsh yellow there imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭chupacabra


    I said it once before in a match thread and I was savaged, the new TMO rules are ruining the game. Ruining it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    One of the worst decisions I've ever seen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Conor Murray does that with Nigel as a ref he gets told to cop on. Genia wins a peno.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Al_Coholic


    Conor Murray did that last week and ref said he did it on purpose and played on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭iroced


    Joubert is again a nuisance to the game. Got abused there like a kid :rolleyes:...
    errlloyd wrote: »
    Conor Murray does that with Nigel as a ref he gets told to cop on. Genia wins a peno.
    Yeah but that's the diff between a ref and a spectator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    There have been a lot of kicks with the player stepping outside his 22, the ARs really need to watch that.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Hogg can be so brainless sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Nigel Owens is the Jonny Sexton of referring, when he is not reffing there is such a huge drop in standards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭PeterTheEighth


    How Joubert ever got to referee after the RWC 2011 Final is beyond me...


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