RWC Quarter Final: New Zealand Vs France; Sat Oct 17th 8pm

TheGoldenAges · 16-10-2015 9:51pm #1

Teams

New Zealand

France

Preview
Throughout the latter stages of the week, after the Papé/O'Brien incident was dealt with, there's been talk of "La Révolution" in Les Bleus ranks. In truth, it may take the sort of effort of storming the Bastille for France to win this match. After so much talk of a France team that was the fittest and best prepared before the Ireland game, a rather limp display instead unfolded. Considering Ireland lost their talismatic captain O'Connell, their playmaker Sexton and their best performer on the day O'Mahony before the 55th minute of last weeks contest, France were abject and the intensity levels weren't near the levels they needed to be for such a pivitol match. Luckily for France though, the sight of the famous All-Black jersey in a World Cup tends to bring them to another level. 2007 at this stadium and at this very stadium springs to mind.

However with only three survivors from that day on the Kiwi's side (McCaw, Mealamu and Carter) this shouldn't have much bearing on the game. Although not as accurate against minnows in their group as Steve Hansen would have demanded, the final 20 minutes against Argentina shows when they need to, the All-Blacks can turn it up another gear which no side left in the competition can live with.

How they line out
France make three changes from last week with the more rounded game of Morgan Parra preferred to Tillous Borde. Elsewhere, Dumoulin replaces Bastereaud at outside-centre with perhaps Saint-Andre (whatever power he still possesses over the dressing room) learning from Les Bleus test match series a couple of summers ago that Conrad Smith and Nonu negated his ball carrying ability. Another change is in the Backrow with Le Roux preferred to Damien Chouly.

For New Zealand, they've made five changes after last weeks comprehensive win with Ma'a Nonu, Milner-Skudder, McCaw and Savea coming in. Such is the depth the AB's have, whatever team they put out would match any of the other top-tier nations

Predictions
Will supposed mutiny inspire France to an upset against New Zealand? If you were a France fan then you wouldn't have been boosted by the fact Freddie Michalak gave his team a 2 percent chance. Maybe this is a ploy for Les Bleus (it probably is) writing themselves off and hoping everyone else will do it? Or maybe this is to put pressure on the AB's to remind them they're overwhelming favourites? Despite this, even an inspired and brilliant French performance will struggle to beat New Zealand who are red hot favourites with the bookmakers. I for one wouldn't touch this game betting wise with those odds but if there's one thing that's an ever presence in World Rugby, it's never write of France in a World Cup against the AB's.

Fun Fact: Richie McCaw will become the joint record holder for most caps as captain at the RWC this weekend with 11 appearances.

New Zealand 26 - 15 France

Photo Credits: Rugby World Cup twitter account.

Digifriendly · 17-10-2015 10:40am

I can't see All Blacks losing this one. I predict a thumping win for them.

irishbucsfan · 17-10-2015 10:41am

France by 12

Losty Dublin · 17-10-2015 10:45am

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

Teams

At this point I would like to point out that the copyright of posting up silly photo's and Youtube videos in a match preview thread belongs to me

Great write up, BTW

Yeah_Right · 17-10-2015 11:26am

I've been a nervous wreck all week thinking about this game. I keep fluctuating between an AB win of 20+ to a French ambush and heartbreak for kiwis every where.

Richard Hillman · 17-10-2015 11:27am

Tradition, history and romance suggests that France will win this.

I am a traditionalist, a historian and a romantic. France will win this.

Zzippy · 17-10-2015 11:33am

Can't see NZ losing this one. France just don't look good enough to threaten them. NZ by 15 for me

RedemptionZ · 17-10-2015 11:33am

NZ win by 15+. Hopefully I'm wrong and France do a number on them.

Losty Dublin · 17-10-2015 1:38pm

Aside from the French ability to raise themselves for games versus the Kiwi's, I have not been impressed by the AB's to the point where I'd believe that they are RWC winners elect. I'm not going out to predict a France win here but it can't see it being the dominant win that the form guide would ordinarily predict.

8-10 · 17-10-2015 1:48pm

Going to this one for the craic. Will be cheering on the All Blacks

irishbucsfan · 17-10-2015 1:48pm

The All Blacks have only been Very Good thus far, not Very Very Good, so surely they will lose.

wp_rathead · 17-10-2015 1:52pm

They may be my least favourite 6 Nations side but C'MON FRANCE

subfreq · 17-10-2015 5:12pm

Time for the French to pull a freak game out of the bag, they will need to because NZ have been simmering just below the boil for weeks now.

Gamb!t · 17-10-2015 5:16pm

I think France are going to get smashed,hoping for a French win.

efb · 17-10-2015 5:18pm

Heading into the match!

Come on Morgan and Les Blues!!!

kilns · 17-10-2015 5:22pm

Parra on the pitch could be a massive difference, if 10 mins to go and if its a one score game NZ will start to get very jittery which could be great viewing

molloyjh · 17-10-2015 5:23pm

NZ by at least 12. I think the days of "we don't know what France will turn up" are past now. They've been consistently poor for the last few years and have shown nothing to suggest they can beat NZ.

vienne86 · 17-10-2015 5:39pm

I can't see past a Kiwi win here. If there has been a révolution in the French camp, heaven only knows what they will do, and it might take NZ a while to figure them out. But they won't let France beat them IMO.

I am still pissed off with the way France hammered into us last week, but I think I will always shout for the NH team.

nehe milner skudder · 17-10-2015 5:48pm

NZ by 20
Smashed em bro

GunnerBlue · 17-10-2015 6:00pm

molloyjh wrote: »

NZ by at least 12. I think the days of "we don't know what France will turn up" are past now. They've been consistently poor for the last few years and have shown nothing to suggest they can beat NZ.

Agree with this. Will still be cheering for France all the same.

Though, as a Scot, I think it's fair to say that whoever wins it won't have any impact on us

aimee1 · 17-10-2015 6:02pm

the real question is will france have a 'response' to the haka this time around

Akrasia · 17-10-2015 6:03pm

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

NZ by 20
Smashed em bro

New Zealand won't underestimate france, thereby massively overestimating them and cruise to an unassailable lead before half time. Ireland vs NZ in the world Cup Final with Ireland to win by a converted try in the 83rd minute. We won't even need to be given a second go at the conversion

MJI · 17-10-2015 6:04pm

I think the Southern Hemisphere could complete a clean sweep. in these 1/4 finals

Dave_The_Sheep · 17-10-2015 6:08pm

You can't see past a New Zealand win here. Better players. An actual coach. Form.

Positive move with Parra on the field from the start, but not enough. Much as I'd love a French win, sadly not...

CatFromHue · 17-10-2015 6:31pm

What's the NZ scrum like?

I thought I heard it mentioned that it was just ok, that could be an area that the French cause problems.

.ak · 17-10-2015 6:40pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

What's the NZ scrum like?

I thought I heard it mentioned that it was just ok, that could be an area that the French cause problems.

I thought our scrum as "ok" and yet we creamed the French scrum. So no.

ThisRegard · 17-10-2015 6:40pm

I'm torn, would usually want a French win but feic 'em for their evidence at SOB's hearing.

laugh · 17-10-2015 6:43pm

Williams just claimed that NZ were definitely poisoned in 95, I thought they had climbed down from that position?

ThisRegard · 17-10-2015 6:45pm

laugh wrote: »

Williams just claimed that NZ were definitely poisoned in 95, I thought they had climbed down from that position?

I don't think so. I heard plenty of discussion, from non NZ sources, that seem to be accepting this as fact.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 17-10-2015 6:49pm

Is it wrong of me to hope for the Kapa o Pango haka tonight?

philstar · 17-10-2015 6:51pm

will NZ choke ???

vienne86 · 17-10-2015 6:52pm

philstar wrote: »

will NZ choke ???

Nope. They made mistakes against Argentina. I don't think they'll make mistakes like that tonight.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 17-10-2015 6:52pm

Murray Kinsella on twitter says New Zealand spend 5 minutes on their pre match warm up. Few "hands" hit some bags and then back inside.

kilns · 17-10-2015 6:53pm

Hopefully France do something during the Haka, it will spook NZ

Zzippy · 17-10-2015 6:53pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Is it wrong of me to hope for the Kapa o Pango haka tonight?

Is that the throat slitting one?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 17-10-2015 6:54pm

Zzippy wrote: »

Is that the throat slitting one?

Yep.

There's just not enough drama around this fixture. I WANT MORE!

17-10-2015 6:54pm

I really hope this ends up being an absolute cracker.

Still cheering for France, despite the low notes they have hit over the last week from an Irish perspective.