Sryanonese: A brand new language

XR3i

sryanbruen wrote: »

Why? Just curious

they look well thought out

now that preps and adjs are there anybody can make a basic sentence

goode


have you declined the verb to be?

sryanbruen

XR3i wrote: »

they look well thought out

now that preps and adjs are there anybody can make a basic sentence

goode


have you declined the verb to be?

Yes, the full verb conjugation for the verb To be was posted ages ago and it is irregular anyways (like nearly every other language including French, Irish and English which I speak). The infinitive is Éloin.

I am - Uai dest
I was - Uai deos
I will be - Uai tia éloin

I am a friendly person - Uai dest píotí líon rann
Literally it translates as, (I) (am) (person) (a) (friendly)

It is a huge town - Rei dest tiomier líon pavara
Literally it translates as, (It / he) (is) (town) (a) (huge)

Always remember

Pronoun - verb conjugated - noun - article - adjective

sryanbruen

Reminder:

Are or Am in question form is the suffix 'Í' on its own.

For example,

Uai dest granpo - I am grand
Si-ire í phai? - How are you?

sryanbruen

There are two rules of forming the comparative adjective in Sryanonese.

Cieb - This prefix can be added to the start of any adjective beginning with a vowel and the following consonants:
H, L, R and Y.

Cie - This prefix can be added to the start of any adjective beginning with the following consonants:
B, C, D, F, G, J, K, M, N, P, Q, S, T, V, W, X and Z.

The different prefixes is due to the sound of the first letter of the original adjective. Thus, for examples on forming them:

Friendlier - Rann (friendly) - Cierann - literally, more friendly
Spicier - Ladeou (spicy) - Ciebladeou - literally, more spicy

Need more examples?

Cie(b) on its own means "more". These rules of the prefixes also apply to words if they come after the word "more" as they would in English!

Example,

I would like more roast beef - Uai mím ache cieb rósbínt (notice the "b", see applies to the same rule!)

Apart from the "cieb" adjectives - that maybe considered irregular, there are no irregular comparative adjectives in Sryanonese - sigh of relief yo!

Remember:

Ciebert = Comparative
Cie(b) = More (adjective)

Roselm

sryanbruen wrote: »

There are two rules of forming the comparative adjective in Sryanonese.

Cieb - This prefix can be added to the start of any adjective beginning with a vowel and the following consonants:
H, L, R and Y.

Cie - This prefix can be added to the start of any adjective beginning with the following consonants:
B, C, D, F, G, J, K, M, N, P, Q, S, T, V, W, X and Z.

The different prefixes is due to the sound of the first letter of the original adjective. Thus, for examples on forming them:

Friendlier - Rann (friendly) - Cierann - literally, more friendly
Spicier - Ladeou (spicy) - Ciebladeou - literally, more spicy

Need more examples?

Cie(b) on its own means "more". These rules of the prefixes also apply to words if they come after the word "more" as they would in English!

Example,

I would like more roast beef - Uai mím ache cieb rósbínt (notice the "b", see applies to the same rule!)

Apart from the "cieb" adjectives - that maybe considered irregular, there are no irregular comparative adjectives in Sryanonese - sigh of relief yo!

I started off sceptical but now am in awe!! Are you posting things as you create them or are your posts about parts of the established language?

sryanbruen

Roselm wrote: »

I started off sceptical but now am in awe!! Are you posting things as you create them or are your posts about parts of the established language?

Posts about parts of the established language ?

Like I created these things in August! . Sometimes, I feel like posting more than other days. Dunno why :pac:. But there are like 10x more words I have to translate! I had from around 30 verbs conjugated to now 78 conjugated - fully. So it's a mix.... really as words such as "credit", I make up them when they come into conversation as I can't think of such words straight away!

Roselm

sryanbruen wrote: »

Posts about parts of the established language ?

I just meant the language you are already using. I know it's all very new and you are only speaking it with a couple of people.

sryanbruen

Roselm wrote: »

I just meant the language you are already using. I know it's all very new and you are only speaking it with a couple of people.

Yeah and when I have done most of the stuff - I will begin writing a PDF called "Bruen's Easy Learning Sryanonese Grammar & Vocabulary" and will give you everything you need, whether it's:
*Complicated grammar points
*Irregular verbs - all conjugations
*A list of a good few superlative adjectives
*All the vocabulary - organized into topics, for example, rooms of the house or animals etc

sryanbruen

Siopp as we already know is an irregular verb and it means To play.

Nontíot Luím

Uai siap
Phai siap
Rei siap
Trei siap
Lei sianin
Luie sianiain
Reie sianit
Treie sianit

Nontíot Luíp

Uai siope
Phai siopi
Rei siopíní
Trei siopíní
Lei siopínoti
Luie sioípino
Reie siopíní
Treie siopíní

Nontíot Luíc

Uai tia siopp
Phai tian siopp
Rei tian siopp
Trei tian siopp
Lei tion siopp
Luie tiev siopp
Reie tiane siopp
Treie tiane siopp

*Remember: Siopp also has an irregular verbal noun, Pléyín - Playing. This is because to not confuse Sryanonese learners that the original translation was "Siopín". Learners would easily remember this as the translation to "Shopping" and so was changed to that to avoid confusion. So instead, Pléyín is Siopp's verbal noun and is irregular like the verb itself.

sryanbruen

Unlike modal verbs such as "should", "could" and "would" which you've learnt so far, the modal verb "can" (or to be able to in the present tense) is quite different of translating.

There are three translations of "can" (as a verb) in Sryanonese and there is no choice of choosing which you put in a sentence. You must follow these rules:

*Cain is to be used with only regular verbs.

Example,

Uai cain jipltol - I can jump (make sure to give the conjugation of the original verb)

*Note: this form of "can" can be translated literally.

*Coigní is to be used with only abnormal verbs.

Example,

Uai pioní coigní - I can eat

*Note: in this form of "can", the "can" comes after the verb in Sryanonese.

*Plakill éloigní is to be used with only irregular verbs. and moved to the end of a full sentence.

Example,

Uai siope póbes plakill éloigní - I can play today. This literally means however, I play today in competence.

This can be quite tricky but practice translating sentences from the vocabulary given and the verbs given so far.

sryanbruen

To say you might ___ (verb) in Sryanonese:

You use Nontíot Luíc + (a)ine to the verb. Add the 'a' if the verb does not end in an a

For example,

I might come > Uai tia astaine (original verb: Asta, so do not add an extra 'a')
I might go > Uai tia shilíonaine (original verb: Shilíon, so add the extra 'a')

I might come today > Uai tia astaine póbes
He might be screaming soon > Rei tian éloinaine screidearín suíen

sryanbruen

This is the last verb that I only gave the present tense to but now here's the full conjugations. Nimbí as we know is an irregular verb and it means To take.

Nontíot Luím

Uai nimbong
Phai nimbo
Rei nimbo
Trei nimbo
Lei nimbion
Luie nimbíní
Reie nimboem
Treie nimboem

Nontíot Luíp

Uai nimba
Phai nimbia
Rei nimba
Trei nimba
Lei nion
Luie niev
Reie poiane (see very irregular)
Treie poiane

Nontíot Luíc

Uai tia nimbí
Phai tian nimbí
Rei tian nimbí
Trei tian nimbí
Lei tion nimbí
Luie tiev nimbí
Reie tiane nimbí
Treie tiane nimbí

*In Sryanonese, though there is a separate verb for it as well, Nimbí can be considered as the verb "To steal" also. Like I gave this example before,

Uai nimbong gut / phaint maug - I stole your heart (Literally, I took your heart)

sryanbruen

By simple English, I mean prepositions or conjunctions etc

Some you have seen already and could be here to revise yourself!

Would - ache
Could - iche
Should - íacain (used as a suffix to the verb)
Don't - baes (used as a prefix to the verb)
Can't - iaes (used as a prefix to the verb)
Not - es (used as a prefix to the verb)
Because - hutom
However - nurpe
Nor - níon
Of - ia
If - riaon
All - iad
Been - lariess
In - plakill
Now - ton plakill luíp (again, literally "in the present")
Again - tíuy
Very; -li (used as a suffix to the adjective)
Yes - aes
No - baes (like "don't", except without the verb and is not used as a prefix)
For - ríoc
The - ton
To - fín / pó (pó is used more frequently)
And - ias
Ever - moga
Never - ahna
Really - ulnba
I - uai
Yet - glea
With - haito
Without - dujito
On - norf
At - eu
As - el
Either - sleith
Neither - sleithaes
But - nur
So - ai
That - slío
Then - slía
Than - slíu
There - slíi (pronounced "slee-ee-e)

Multiple translations:
A - puí; nontíot luím
líon; nontíot luíp
chóy; nontíot luíc

sryanbruen

Here is a big list of verbal nouns

Pléyín - Playing
Tiasín - Turning
Sioppín - Shopping
Nimbín - Taking / Stealing
Mín - Liking
Tooglín - Doing
Skizzeín - Swimming
Jobín - Working
Éloinín - Being
Curabín - Telling
Shilín - Going
Arrangín - Arranging
Cianiarólín - Recognising
Bianníonaín - Falling
Jiplín - Jumping
Grientín - Giving
Eilearíon - Hoping
S'eoarín - Wanting
Trastín - Enjoying
Drienen - Driving
Iestín - Living
Stearín - Starting
Cathiasín - Catching (an object)
Ceinoirín - Catching (an illness)
Línín - Lighting
Pímin - Being able to (verbal noun form of "can")
Baenín - Fighting
Fialín - Failing
Bioyín - Bowling
Airríneín - Arriving
Sendeín - Sending
Tíochín - Thinking
Creasín - Seeing
Norrisín - Starting (used less frequently)
Astaín - Coming
Mizulabín - Hiring
Feriramaín - Attending
Tuttaín - Eating
Printureín - Looking
Cariskín - Reading
Nedín - Needing
Astibín - Waking up
Duatoín - Changing
Putueraín - Picking up
Putuín - Picking
Revertín - Calling
Captín - Saying
Nochín - Staying
Ootoín - Losing
Ínarrangín - Rearranging
Turitandín - Engaging
Teariaín - Dancing
Rúinín - Running
Timirtín - Remembering
Pientín - Painting
Púshín - Pushing
Posiohamilín - Watching
Nuniumín - Finding
Nitvisín - Keeping
Louyorsín - Praying
Studín - Studying
Strusalín - Stressing
Aritsublín - Blessing
Laudtimisín - Relaxing
Feilchainín - Speaking
Asecessín - Assessing
Completíon - Completing
Breaín - Braking / Breaking
Shierín - Smashing
Rierín - Roaring
Screidearín - Screaming
Ricouinín - Filling
Trommelín - Stuttering
Feheín - Feeling
Stuornín - Becoming
Locatín - Finding (used more frequently than the other finding above)
Tryín - Trying
Martvisín - Using
Begín - Beginning (can be used as a noun as well)
Mouvín - Moving
Taspaín - Showing (clue: Taispeáin is Irish for the verb To show and is closely related to the Sryanonese translation)
Poutisín - Asking
Nulíasín - Hearing
Aiduinín - Having
Rotín - Knowing
Liertíasín - Leaving
Sletín - Sleeping
Wharthóín - Wearing
Pionín - Eating
Drínín - Drinking
Fuarín - Cooling
Cheartisín - Making
Allegín - Getting
Brísónín - Bringing
Deironín - Saying (less frequent way of saying "to say")
Recibellín - Putting
Salicaín - Meaning
Alleín - Getting up

sryanbruen

To express the adverb in Sryanonese, you simply put the article "ent" in front of the adjective (as a separate word) - "ly" - literally means.

However, some adverbs in Sryanonese do not require "ent".
For example,
Rann - Friendly

*Though there are very few exceptions to the rule! So you're generally gonna have to use "ent" to form the adverb.

I played it NICELY - Uai siope iet ENT POUNTA.
I was there SHORTLY - Uai deos slíi ENT AZANGE.

*Notice: I did not use "Rei" for the word "It". It is your choice whether you want to use "Rei" or "iet" when translating the word "It". I will be using both when doing examples!

sryanbruen

Some phrases you might already know because of looking at the thread.

It was the best day ever - Rei deos goo ton bes moga
My birthday is on the.... - Uail biebes dest ton norf....
I have a..... - Uai aidest _____ (noun) líon
Disaster struck - Strucí ton dizas (literally "the disaster struck")
A rainy day is not a day for children - Baes dest ent autass líon bes ríoc chielde (notice: "A", líon in this case is not used twice as it is in English)
I was on top of the world - Uai deos norf abges ton ia rild
It's not the end of the world - Rei baes dest ton itten ton ia rild

Vocabulary

Goo - best (superlative form of the adjective "goode" - good)
Biebes - birthday
Strucí - struck (past tense of the verb Strucíon - To strike)
Dizas - disaster
Ent autass - rainy (adverb form! what you just learnt above ^)
Chielde - children
Abges - top (originally "than" but changed now and "than" is in the list of conjunctions and don't mind the preposition one)
Rild - world
Itten - end

RedemptionZ

sryanbruen wrote: »

Here is a big list of verbal nouns



Drienen - Driving

May I ask why this one ends in en and the others ín? Irregular or typo? And if it's irregular what was the thinking behind it?

I was fairly sceptical of you but you're putting a lot of effort in, I'm impressed!

sryanbruen

RedemptionZ wrote: »

May I ask why this one ends in en and the others ín? Irregular or typo? And if it's irregular what was the thinking behind it?

I was fairly sceptical of you but you're putting a lot of effort in, I'm impressed!

Oh yeah that's a typo thanks for telling me, correct version:

Drienenín - Driving

*And no matter if the verbal noun is irregular or regular, every verbal noun ends in 'ín' and no other type of word or word ends in 'ín' in Sryanonese - just to avoid confusion and make things easier to show that the word is a verbal noun. I bet this is a favourite among many, because it is very much like its English counterpart

Rúinín - Running :P

And thank you

sryanbruen

The restrictive clause in English is when you use words such as "that" or "who" or "when" in sentences such as:

The building that they built
A person who wrote the book 'Captain Underpants'

To express the restrictive clause in Sryanonese, you use shorter forms of the question words "who", "when", "why" etc but the same form that you already learnt of words such as "that".

So for example, you are not allowed to use "si-neve" (why) in a sentence but only a question. Instead for a sentence you use, just "neve" without the "si-" which is another way to spot a question in Sryanonese other than the question mark.

Example of restrictive clause in Sryanonese:

I went to the shop which was why, I was wet - Uai shilír ton pó settlí pie deos neve, uai deos escini.

I didn't eat today and that is how I am hungry - Uai baespiont póbes ias slío dest ire uai dest ungéar

Notice how "Uai" is used twice but isn't separated by another pronoun. This is because "is" / "was" is used on its own and you treat this like the same two pronouns are separated from each other.

Reminder of the same pronoun rule:

Uai-verb-uai - X - incorrect
Uai-verb-verb-uai - ✓ - correct

OR

Uai-verb-phai-verb-uai - ✓ - also correct

If you want to repeat the same pronoun twice after one another - like "I thought I was", you don't repeat the pronoun in Sryanonese. Instead, you just add the verb conjugated of that pronoun.

Uai tíochí deos - I thought I was
Uai tíochí phai deos - I thought you were

sryanbruen

Si-even - What? (sy-even)
Si-eir - Who? (sy-air)
Si-rie - Where? (sy-ree)
Si-pol - When? (si-pul)
Si-neve - Why? (sy-neev)
Si-ire - How? (sy-i-er)
Si-pie - Which? (sy-pee)

Even - what
Eir - who
Rie - where
Pol - when
Neve - why
Ire - how
Pie - which

^ The second list are to be used in sentences only and the first list in questions only. The pronunciations are the same for the sentence ones but remove the "sy" or "si".

sryanbruen

Over 40-60 words in Sryanonese end in an "e" as a singular but all the rest don't. See the heading for example,

Plural - plurien (plur-reen)
Plurals - pluriene (plur-reen-ee)

Question - statuiton (stat-chew-with-ton)
Questions - statuitone (stat-chew-with-tone)

December - decimbrée (dis-sim-bir-ray)
Decembers - decimbréee (dis-sim-bir-ray-ee)

Monday - luire (lur-a)
Mondays - luiree (lur-ee)

*The above examples such as that to form the plural, you simply add an "e" to the end of the word, even if it has one or more "e's" already included.

*The advantage to plurals is that they are simple to form.

*However, the disadvantage to plurals is that some can be hard to recognise.

sryanbruen

Front garden - fria gairdein
Back garden - inish gairdein

Kitchen - kích riule (lit. kitchen room)
Attic - attidee
Basement - baís
Dining room - dinsín riule
Sitting room - luín riule
Bedroom - cuidla riule
Bathroom - diac riule
Utility room - ulit riule
Conservatory - conservatías
Study room - studíon riule
Play(ing) room - siopp(pléyín) riule
Garage - garáig
Box room - bosc riule
Music room - ulirathae riule (lit. music genres room, so listening to music)
Music room - ulirimithae riule (lit. music instruments room, so playing music)
Library - libra
Ballroom - etó riule
Living room - iestín riule
Guest room / spare room - gitsu riule / spíret riule
Cellar - cieller
Pantry - paintier
Larder - laidir
Toilet - tuoler
Hall - hailir
Games room - gaime riule
Drawing room - drawín riule
Cloakroom - colkriule

sryanbruen

Saying expressions such as "I MUST go" or "I MUST be", you can't translate literally in Sryanonese. Instead, you form such phrases by:

Pronoun + present tense of Éloin + should + verbal noun

So, you would literally be translating, for example:

I should be going - but you're really trying to say "I must go"

You could also say

Pronoun + present tense of Aiduin + infinitive

So literally you would be translating, for example:

I have to go

Sentences such as:

I must like that movie - Uai aidestíacain mín líon ríoc slío moiv - lit. I should have a liking for that movie

Have to be learnt off by heart as idiomatic expressions - very similar to Irish - actually!

sryanbruen

This post is a revision for all the modal verbs you have learnt so far in Sryanonese.

"Would" - simply place the word "ache" after the verb

"Could" - simply place the word "iche" after the verb

"Should" - simply add the suffix "íacain" to the end of the verb

"Can" - three different translations:

Cain - used with regular verbs and is placed after the pronoun and before the verb in a sentence

Coigní - used with abnormal verbs and comes after the verb

Plakill éloigní - used with irregular verbs and is placed at the end of a sentence - literally means "in competence"

"Might" - you form using "Pronoun + Nontíot luíc of verb + (a)ine". You add the "a" if the verb does not already end in an "a". Like Asta takes "ine" but Jobíon takes "aine".

"Must" - you form using "Pronoun + present tense of Éloin + should + verbal noun" OR "Pronoun + present tense of Aiduin + infinitive of verb". Although some sentences are idiomatic phrases and must be learnt off by heart.

"May" - simply add the word "Maine" to a sentence - same translation as the month, May.

sryanbruen

Though you may think, you could just translate the auxiliary verb "used to" in Sryanonese using the verb To use and the conjunction "to"? Well, sorry you can't or the sentence wouldn't make sense.

You use a special verb named "Yitzitíon" - literally, to history (Yitz = History).

Clue: Yitz = History
Yitzitíon = Used to - think of it as you made History!

And you don't have to do any conjugating with this verb, despite the "íon" ending.

I used to go swimming - Uai yitzitíon shilíon skizzeín

sryanbruen

Whilst "should" is the suffix "Íacain" in Sryanonese, "shall" is a simpler form of this and translates as "Íaca" without the "in".

I shall turn around - Uai tiaíaca erqui
I should turn around - Uai tiaíacain erqui

Notice the difference?

sryanbruen

*To express likeness in Sryanonese, simply use the irregular verb "Míon" - To like.

I like that movie - Uai mím slío moiv
I like running - Uai mím rúinín
They like shopping - Reie míxní sioppín
I like her - Uai mím treirin

*To express hatefulness in Sryanonese, simply use the abnormal verb "Fuathíon" - To hate. Clue: Fuath in Irish = Hate.

I hate you - Uai fuathí phai

*To express favourites in Sryanonese, simply use the phrase:

Uail fevré _____ (bes - day? OR MAYBE ani - animal?) dest ______ (noun) _____ (if the noun has an "a" in a sentence. For example "a fox" or without it "My favourite singer is Nelly").

My favourite animal is a dog - Uail fevré ani dest dúg líon

sryanbruen

Questions to get to know a person's name:

What is your name? - Si-even nu ti reen?
Who are you? - Si-eir í phai?

Your answer

My name is.... - Litz reen nu..... - note: it is an idiomatic phrase
I'm.... - Uai dest.... OR uaiest - like the English where there's a mix of "I" and "am" but in this, there's a mix of "uai" and "dest". The pronunciation is different however, and is pronounced - wee-ist.

sryanbruen

sryanbruen wrote: »

By simple English, I mean prepositions or conjunctions etc

Some you have seen already and could be here to revise yourself!

Would - ache
Could - iche
Should - íacain (used as a suffix to the verb)
Don't - baes (used as a prefix to the verb)
Can't - iaes (used as a prefix to the verb)
Not - es (used as a prefix to the verb)
Because - hutom
However - nurpe
Nor - níon
Of - ia
If - riaon
All - iad
Been - lariess
In - plakill
Now - ton plakill luíp (again, literally "in the present")
Again - tíuy
Very; -li (used as a suffix to the adjective)
Yes - aes
No - baes (like "don't", except without the verb and is not used as a prefix)
For - ríoc
The - ton
To - fín / pó (pó is used more frequently)
And - ias
Ever - moga
Never - ahna
Really - ulnba
I - uai
Yet - glea
With - haito
Without - dujito
On - norf
At - eu
As - el
Either - sleith
Neither - sleithaes
But - nur
So - ai
That - slío
Then - slía
Than - slíu
There - slíi (pronounced "slee-ee-e)

Multiple translations:
A - puí; nontíot luím
líon; nontíot luíp
chóy; nontíot luíc

Lariess should not be here. Correction of why: It means "life". Sorry for that mistake.

sryanbruen

Translate this with help of the vocabulary.

Sevit Dái,

Si-ire í phai ent lieryt? Uai eileartol slío phai dien ton plakill goo ia shialth. Si-even ti aiduin phai pó utsuto? Uai dest soir slío baestomir aiduin cedi écailt nerata ton plakill luíp. Uai deos buis-li. Shó dest uail stáeir.

Uai deos norf uail muail pó scoíal. Uai tíochí iet deos shilín éloin namlí bes líon. Uai deos bu rú é mint. Uai deos bualearu ent kegour-li. Ton bléint plakill uail daluv deos horrád. Ambul puí brísónt uai ton pó ospáid. Ton doctíre dest rann thied.

Dái - David
Ent lieryt - Lately
Uai eileartol - I hope
Shialth - Health
Si-even ti aiduin phai pó utsuto? - What have you been up to?
Baestomir - Didn't ('I' form)
Écailt - Write / To write
Buis-li - Very busy
Shó - Here
Stáeir - Story
Muail - Way
Namlí - Normal
Bu - So
Rú é mint - Wrong
Bualearu - Bullied (past tense of the regular verb "Bualear" - To bully)
Ent kegour-li - Very badly
Bléint - Pain
Horrád - Horrible
Ambul - Ambulance
Brísónt - Brought (past tense of the abnormal verb "Brísón" - To bring)
Ospáid - Hospital
Doctíre - Doctors
Thied - Though