Getting bored

nkav86

I've been vaping a little while now and I'm starting to get fed up. I've no interest in smoking again, but I've tried all types of flavours (I think), custard, cream, yoghurt, cereals, fruits, tobacco, mints, nothing is blowing me away anymore. Anyone else experience this?

Fratton Fred

nkav86 wrote: »

I've been vaping a little while now and I'm starting to get fed up. I've no interest in smoking again, but I've tried all types of flavours (I think), custard, cream, yoghurt, cereals, fruits, tobacco, mints, nothing is blowing me away anymore. Anyone else experience this?

Yep, quite often.

What flavour have you liked the most?

nkav86

Fratton Fred wrote:

What flavour have you liked the most?

I'd say the yoghurts so far, how did you overcome it or have you?

syklops

My go to flavour is Space Jam Andromeda. Where possible I pick a flavour I like and stick with it. OP, are you getting bored of the flavors or bored of the flavour-hopping?

Maybe its time to make your own? What flavors do you like when not vaping?

Dr Bill

nkav86 wrote:

I've been vaping a little while now and I'm starting to get fed up. I've no interest in smoking again, but I've tried all types of flavours (I think), custard, cream, yoghurt, cereals, fruits, tobacco, mints, nothing is blowing me away anymore. Anyone else experience this?

If your getting bored with vaping and not just the flavours try upping your nic and get a good kick from a high nic tobacco flavour,18 or even 24 usually does it for me,also as was said if your not mixing your own then maybe you should give it a go,opens up a whole new experience and less expensive than your shop bought juice.

nkav86

I started mixing my own but became lazy I've been strongly thinking of giving it another go and being more adventurous, I was only making single flavours like strawberry

nkav86

syklops wrote:

My go to flavour is Space Jam Andromeda. Where possible I pick a flavour I like and stick with it. OP, are you getting bored of the flavors or bored of the flavour-hopping?

Maybe it is the flavour hopping that's annoying me, I've got zamplebox and I find im just working my way through it and not really enjoying it, think its time to cancel

Dr Bill

nkav86 wrote:

I started mixing my own but became lazy I've been strongly thinking of giving it another go and being more adventurous, I was only making single flavours like strawberry

Do try it again,there's some very good recipes in the diy section here and any questions you have will be answered by someone here.

o1s1n

I got really bored flavour hopping too until I landed up on vanilla. Haven't used anything else now in 6 months, totally hooked on the stuff.

nkav86

Dr Bill wrote:

Do try it again,there's some very good recipes in the diy section here and any questions you have will be answered by someone here.

Been looking through it, some very appealing recipes, think you're right

Dr Bill

nkav86 wrote:

Been looking through it, some very appealing recipes, think you're right

Try The Milk whenever you can,you'll never regret it.

nkav86

Dr Bill wrote:

Try The Milk whenever you can,you'll never regret it.

Think that was one I had my eye on

8mm

Yeah know the feeling... how long will I vape? I know I won't be going back to smoking but I also know I need.......... something

And to echo others - do some diy mixes and mess around with gear. It's fun in a geeky sort of way (I like that) and share the adventure here.

So I'm about to buy my first mech mod now that FT have what I want in stock - I want to have a play around with all this stuff before I knock it in.

Fratton Fred

nkav86 wrote: »

I'd say the yoghurts so far, how did you overcome it or have you?

I usually have two tanks on the go, with very different flavours. Something like pipe sauce cider and cosmic fog church.

The difference seems to "refresh" the taste buds.

TinCool

It's interesting when you think about it. You never got tired of the foulness of cigarettes. Now that you have the variety of practically any flavour open to you, you start to get bored. It has happened to me in the past. You'll eventually fall upon a flavour that you really like. For me, Liqua French Pipe has been doing it for me for 6+ months now. I always have that on the go in one of my devices as it is my ADV and nicely satisfies.

In my other device (currently using 2 eGrips), I've got some nice lemonade that I got from vapemate. The contrast between the sweet tobacco and fresh lemonade flavour keeps things from dulling too much.

If you're getting a bit tired of the flavours, why don't you try unflavoured ? A few of the lads in work here vape unflavoured exclusively. For me, I don't see the appeal as I need a little something in the background. However, I think we will find that it will be the flavours added to the eliquid that will be cause for most concern health wise over and above the PG, VG, alcohol, nicotine content.

JH_raheny

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I usually have two tanks on the go, with very different flavours. Something like pipe sauce cider and cosmic fog church.

The difference seems to "refresh" the taste buds.

same as that, I have 1 or 2 all day vapes on the go and also a peppermint and a licorice on the side when at home or in the office, it really helps a lot haven't something that is a big contrast to maintain good flavour of your ADV

sangsung

I was the same as you. Couldn't settle on a flavour. Then I went with unflavoured juice, been vaping it for months. No gunked coils. No trying to wash out sweaty arse smell from cheap liquids. No smell bothering others around me. (My colleague walked into my office one day and recoiled in horror. Said it smelled like sweaty socks. It was house of liquid "real" tobacco flavour. Cigarillo something or other) And it's much much cheaper.

Life is much easier now.

Xaracatz

Forgive my ignorance - but is unflavoured really what it sounds like? I did a search on this forum, and a quick Google - but I'm unsure as to whether it usually refers to unflavoured juice that you then flavour yourself, or if it truly is juice without a flavour.

I saw some people do it when they get all flavoured out! But is it just to keep getting nicotine / throat hit, without being bothered with taste?

sangsung

Xaracatz wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance - but is unflavoured really what it sounds like? I did a search on this forum, and a quick Google - but I'm unsure as to whether it usually refers to unflavoured juice that you then flavour yourself, or if it truly is juice without a flavour.

I saw some people do it when they get all flavoured out! But is it just to keep getting nicotine / throat hit, without being bothered with taste?

What I do is I buy 250ml bottles of "base liquid" which you can find in the DIY sections of online vape shops.

It's just PG & VG with a bit of nicotine. You're supposed to add your own flavours to these base liquids and create your own little bottles of juices. But I just vape it. Those 250ml bottles go a long way.

nkav86

Just got the chance to get back on, great points being made especially that we never got bored of the cigarette flavour for however many years, never thought of that! I'm going to get back into diy and experiment to find a flavour I really like, don't think unflavoured is for me, but thank you all for the suggestions!

Calibos

Soon as I started reading the thread I was going to make the point about never getting bored of the cigarette flavour when one smoked but I see the point has already been made.

I guess the difference with me is I never thought of vaping as a new hobby that I needed to be constantly stimulated by with new devices and flavours. It was simply something to get me off a €500-600 a month 40 a day cigarette habit. Its mind boggling when one thinks about what one used to spend. I quickly settled on cheap hardware in the form of Ego Twists, VV iTastes and eLeaf iSticks and cheap clearo's. Still buying Kanger T2's Thus I never ended up with hundreds of euro's worth of hardware sitting on a shelf in search of the perfect vape. In terms of flavours I went off the sweet or fruity flavours within 6 months and went exclusively tobacco. I wasn't chasing the perfect flavour or novel flavours, I was chasing a flavour that my tastebuds didn't totally acclimatise to in days to the point of flavourlessness. I found it in Liqua Cuban cigar. For some reason while it mutes to a large degree after a few days, it manages to still retain some flavour thenceforth after acclimatisation. I've been vaping it exclusively for the last 2.5 years. It doesn't seem to thicken, go dark and clog heads either unlike nearly every other juice I've ever tried. A Kanger €2 T2 head can last me up to 5 or 6 weeks sometimes.

I actually ran out on Friday and won't receive my order till tomorrow so have been vaping a freebie generic tobacco juice I was sent with my last order from thebestshop. Gunked up the clearo head in a day. Replaced head. The juice is dark brown by the time the clearo is down to half full, taste of juice changes. This is at 4.5w !! Can't wait to get my Cuban Cigar tomorrow. The flavour will be back 100% for me for a day or two till I acclimatise again after a long weekend on the other crap.

I'd actually be taking the boredom as a cue to start moving down the nic levels with a view to getting rid of the vaping habit too. I'm on my way down from 24mg and vape 12mg now.

For the first time ever when we give up nicotine now, a moment of weakness doesn't mean buying a packet of fags, smoking the lot, kicking ourselves but saying fcuk it, 'I'm back smoking' and not attempting to give up again for another few years due to the difficulty and withdrawl experienced the last time.

From now on, it'll just mean buying a cheap yoke in a shop or digging the old gear out of a drawer if the moment of stress/weakness happens at home. When the moment or period passes we either say, 'That was silly' and throw the stuff back in the drawer 'but no harm done' or at worst we're back vaping again for a while. Never again will we fall back into a hundreds of euro a month smoking habit for another few years like in the past though when we have a stressful moment of weakness after giving up.

JH_raheny

****For the first time ever when we give up nicotine now, a moment of weakness doesn't mean buying a packet of fags, smoking the lot, kicking ourselves but saying fcuk it, 'I'm back smoking' and not attempting to give up again for another few years due to the difficulty and withdrawl experienced the last time. ****

On that bit I think most people who are down to 3 or 6mg for a while will have NO problem with actual Nicotine cravings if they run out and have to wait for a day, couple of times I have walked out of the house forgetting my mod I've been sitting happily enough in the pub with my pint an no desire to go get ciggies, the cravings from the stinkies were just so much more intense than what you get with the vaping stuff, well for me anyway

Wibbs

Calibos wrote: »

In terms of flavours I went off the sweet or fruity flavours within 6 months and went exclusively tobacco.

Ditto. The inhaling cakes and ice cream vibe never worked for me.

I found it in Liqua Cuban cigar. For some reason while it mutes to a large degree after a few days, it manages to still retain some flavour thenceforth after acclimatisation. I've been vaping it exclusively for the last 2.5 years. It doesn't seem to thicken, go dark and clog heads either unlike nearly every other juice I've ever tried. A Kanger €2 T2 head can last me up to 5 or 6 weeks sometimes.

Really? You know I might give that stuff a go C. My go to liquid is House of liquids el toro range. Fantastic flavour(for me), as close to tobacco as I have found and made from actual tobacco so some other chemistry is going on compared to other baccy flavours I've tried, which makes it more like the "real deal". However the stuff kills coils like a mofo. You might get a week of decent use and maybe stretch it to two weeks(kills them in a weird way too, the ohms go down over time, so a 1.2 will go to 0.8 or 0.5, that can't be good). The liquid starts dark, the tobacco/coffee one I'd really advise against. Great flavour but is near the colour of coffee out of the bottle. Must get a pic to demonstrate. I've been thinking of buying unflavoured liquid and working out a dilution that might work for me, but this Liqua stuff could be a great alternative. Half the price too.

8mm

Wibbs wrote: »

Ditto. The inhaling cakes and ice cream vibe never worked for me.

As a Type 1 Diabetic I must say the deserts have been a nice bonus with vaping. Fruits too as I can usually eat a very very limited amount of anything sweet or carby.

Wibbs wrote: »

but this Liqua stuff could be a great alternative. Half the price too.

I really like decent tobaccos and found the Liqua ones to be fantastic. I have tried the Toro ones too which are nice but silly prices.

Didihno

8mm wrote: »

As a Type 1 Diabetic I must say the deserts have been a nice bonus with vaping. Fruits too as I can usually eat a very very limited amount of anything sweet or carby.

I'm in a similar situation to you mate, only my self control when eating is far from good enough. Need to sort my sh1t out.

youdipstick

Didihno wrote: »

I'm in a similar situation to you mate, only my self control when eating is far from good enough. Need to sort my sh1t out.

I'm in the same club,100 units a day plus pills,my eating is diabolical but I have never thought about the vaping side of it because I love custards & anything sweet,do these liquids affect us in some way.

Didihno

youdipstick wrote: »

I'm in the same club,100 units a day plus pills,my eating is diabolical but I have never thought about the vaping side of it because I love custards & anything sweet,do these liquids affect us in some way.

No the liquids do not affect us, but the nicotine does.
High doses of nic will affect blood pressure and we are prone to heart disease etc so the lower your nic the better.
I'm down to mostly 3mg now.

100 units is a huge dose mate, I'm down to 2x15ml a day, plus 2x1.8ml doses of Victoza (another injectable product).
The Victoza is super effective but may not be applicable for everyone, ask your GP. Before that I was on around 70mls insulin a day total.

Still need to improve my diet again, I go on stints of good eating with great blood sugars, plus lots of lovely sweet vapes to curb the sweet tooth, I find that very effective.
Until I go off the rails again that is.

Dr Bill

8mm wrote: »

As a Type 1 Diabetic I must say the deserts have been a nice bonus with vaping. Fruits too as I can usually eat a very very limited amount of anything sweet or carby.

Didihno wrote: »

I'm in a similar situation to you mate, only my self control when eating is far from good enough. Need to sort my sh1t out.

youdipstick wrote: »

I'm in the same club,100 units a day plus pills,my eating is diabolical but I have never thought about the vaping side of it because I love custards & anything sweet,do these liquids affect us in some way

Didihno wrote: »

No the liquids do not affect us, but the nicotine does.
High doses of nic will affect blood pressure and we are prone to heart disease etc so the lower your nic the better.
I'm down to mostly 3mg now.

Fair play to you lads,the arrival of vaping must have been a blessing for anyone with health issues and struggling with smoking also.

Didihno

Dr Bill wrote: »

Fair play to you lads,the arrival of vaping must have been a blessing for anyone with health issues and struggling with smoking also.

It has changed my life. Quite simply put.
My entire existance is better now, because of vaping.
It started with vaping, moved onto being able to exercise more, eat better - taste, sleep better....and extra curricular activites ahem.....

Still a lot of improvements to make, weight to lose, cr@p to stop eating and so on, but it all started with buying a spinner battery and CE4 tank.

Dr Bill

Didihno wrote: »

Still a lot of improvements to make, weight to lose, cr@p to stop eating and so on, but it all started with buying a spinner battery and CE4 tank.

I can relate to that alright:D:D

8mm

I always found smoking a great diet management tool, wifey has a biscuit I have a smoke all is good. But smoking and diabetes don't make good bedfellows and increase cardiovascular risks by a huge amount.

I've not noticed any increase in BP/Pulse from nicotine on it's own and my BP has dropped after quitting the smokes. For Type 2's the disease is about insulin resistance and nicotine can compound this significantly. As a T1 I actually use around 20% less insulin since I took up the vape.

Also get out and walk everyday. Having a nice stroll and a nice vape has been a delight for me.

Wibbs

8mm wrote: »

I've not noticed any increase in BP/Pulse from nicotine on it's own and my BP has dropped after quitting the smokes.

Ditto 8mm. My BP dropped from "oh oh, we'll bring flowers to your funeral" to "do you run marathons" in under a week when I went from ciggies to vaping. My rest in heart rate is noticeably lowered from "hummingbird doing lines of coke" of previous. And I vape 20-24mg and have given myself the dizzies early on before I copped on how not to give myself a nicotine overdose. Vaping nicotine doesn't give me anyway nearly the same near instant hit as dragging on a ciggie(though does near instantly kill my cravings). There's all sorts of other stuff at play.

RIchieNouveau

JH_raheny wrote: »

****For the first time ever when we give up nicotine now, a moment of weakness doesn't mean buying a packet of fags, smoking the lot, kicking ourselves but saying fcuk it, 'I'm back smoking' and not attempting to give up again for another few years due to the difficulty and withdrawl experienced the last time. ****

On that bit I think most people who are down to 3 or 6mg for a while will have NO problem with actual Nicotine cravings if they run out and have to wait for a day, couple of times I have walked out of the house forgetting my mod I've been sitting happily enough in the pub with my pint an no desire to go get ciggies, the cravings from the stinkies were just so much more intense than what you get with the vaping stuff, well for me anyway

I think I've said this before on here, I'm down to 3mg now so I could probably walk away (although 150 quids worth of stuff bought last week means I'm pot committed for another year) but even when I was on 12mg I noticed something mad. One day I was rushing to work, got off the DART and hurried up to the office I was working in. The nature of the job means that I get there and sit for 4 hours or so and cannot leave the room, not even for a toilet break so no chance to sneak a vape. I forgot to vape before going in! It just didn't occur to me, and do you know what? I didn't care at all! I'd have been rolling a cig on the DART and smoking it while jogging uphill and hyperventilating just 2 years ago! Smokers do not forget to smoke! Ever! There's a whole lot more to addiction to smoking than nicotine and I hope we see some decent research to explain it all in the coming years.

TinCool

I totally agree. When I moved to my current job a little over 3 years ago, I decided that I wouldn't bother with going for vape breaks anymore and it didn't bother me in the slightest. I vape on the way in to work, and always look forward to my lunch break, and again on the way home, but at no point in work do I feel a need to go for a vape.

Back in the dark days of marloboro lights, I'd have smoked 2 on the way to work, 1 when I got there, have gone for two fag breaks before lunch at exactly the same times every day, a couple more during lunch, and a couple more breaks in the afternoon. Craziness when I look back on it.

Vaping for me is a lot more casual. I really enjoy it and whilst I'm still on 6mg, I aim to move down to 3mg in the new year.