New Done Deal, About to Get Scammed

turniton

Hi,
so I place an item on done deal.. few contact, Irish number, seem to be fine... 1 call, from co. Galway, again fine...

then a txt from a number +1 (855) 910-9939 asking to email him:
micswith12@gmail.com

he says is interested...

" Thanks for your response. € is a nice and acceptable price. I will be adding the 3.9% PayPal surcharge to the total amount i will be paying you. So i will be paying directly into your PayPal account without any delay, and i hope you have a PayPal account.

If you have one already, just send me the address to send it to, which is the email address you use for it or you can send me a PayPal money request, so once i receive the details i will go ahead with the payment through PayPal and then i will contact my shipping company after you get the payment. I will need your home address for the merchandise to be Picked Up by the Shipping Company.

Have a nice day.
Martin "


here i realize this isn't right... the guys does not ask for a better price?.. does not wonna see item?... no way!


I google his email and found a polish website , where (using google translate) i kinda get that this person isn't legit
http://www.wiadomosci24.pl/artykul/zuchwale_oszustwa_z_uzyciem_paypala_na_allegro_193883.html


have I got it right?

Saipanne

turniton wrote: »

Hi,
so I place an item on done deal.. few contact, Irish number, seem to be fine... 1 call, from co. Galway, again fine...

then a txt from a number +1 (855) 910-9939 asking to email him:
micswith12@gmail.com

he says is interested...

" Thanks for your response. € is a nice and acceptable price. I will be adding the 3.9% PayPal surcharge to the total amount i will be paying you. So i will be paying directly into your PayPal account without any delay, and i hope you have a PayPal account.

If you have one already, just send me the address to send it to, which is the email address you use for it or you can send me a PayPal money request, so once i receive the details i will go ahead with the payment through PayPal and then i will contact my shipping company after you get the payment. I will need your home address for the merchandise to be Picked Up by the Shipping Company.

Have a nice day.
Martin "


here i realize this isn't right... the guys does not ask for a better price?.. does not wonna see item?... no way!


I google his email and found a polish website , where (using google translate) i kinda get that this person isn't legit


have I got it right?

It reads like a generic template, to me. No specifics about your item really...

turniton

sorry, my bad.
There is this polish website, where a polish guy seem to be complaining about the same person (micswith12@gmail.com) and had trouble with the sale of his bike to this individual.

uck51js9zml2yt

Foreign number, paying a surcharge, doesn't want to see it and you're thinking its not legit

Dard23

How do these scams actually work? I know it isn't legit at all from experiencing similar emails but how do they benefit?

turniton

Dard23, from what I can gather...

I just got a "fake" Paypal confirmation of payment....
I d say some people trust that confirmation and post items (before actually receiving the money into their account).. once the item has been sent, money never arrive!


PayPal


You've received a payment

Hello ,

The total sum of €970.00 EUR that was transferred to you by Eric Moles has been fully deducted from the payee's account which includes the Transport/Delivery Charges and is ready to be transferred into your your own account, but before the transaction can be finalized you would have to Pay the Transport Charges to the Transport Company.

In order complete this transaction and get the funds credited into your account, you have to go to your closest Western Union Office and transfer the excess sum of €420.00 EUR to the Transport Agent and send us a Scanned Copy/Photograph of your Western Union Transaction Receipt (in .JPG Format).

Below is a step by step guide on how to make the transfer:

1. Go to any Western Union Office close to your home.

2. Ask for a western union money transfer form.

3. Fill the form with the address details provided below.

4. Tender the cash and you will be issued a receipt after the money has been sent

5. Attach and email a scanned copy of the receipt to us or type out the details on the receipt such as : Sender's Name; Receiver's Name; MTCN; Amount Sent;

seamus

Rule of thumb - if someone is looking to buy your generic sh1tbox for export from Ireland, it's probably a scam. Nobody in their right mind exports cars from Ireland that you can get cheaper and higher spec practically anywhere else.

As far as I know, the way this scam plays out is that you send the money request and shortly after you get an email from "PayPal" informing you that they've made the payment, plus the shipping fee for the car. The email says that once you've transferred the shipping costs to the shipping company, paypal will release the funds to you. It then provides comprehensive instructions whereby PayPal, a payment processor, require you to manually send money via Western Union, another payment processor, to a 3rd party, before PayPal will give you any money.

Of course it makes no sense, but the prospect of an easy sale at full price means some people get caught out. Of course there is no shipping company and no money waiting for you in PayPal. You transfer the €500 shipping fee and never see it again.

Second rule of thumb - if anyone ever mentions Western Union to you as a way to send or receive money, they're trying to scam you.

ScouseMouse

These dickheads sent out hundreds of these messages. It only takes a handful of fools to fall for it to be profitable.

Either string him along to waste his time, or tell him to feck off.

Either way, dont be to worried.

turniton

they are very good, in creating fake paypal payments

all this has been reported to Paypal
spoofpaypal.com

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/cps/general/Spoof-outside

Dard23

Ah OK thank you, I thought maybe they paid and then reversed the payment but I didn't think PayPal would allow that. Some poor folk out there would naively fall for this I suppose. Ridiculous all the same!

Chemical Byrne

Anyone thick enough to fall for this one doesn't deserve their money. I mean ffs, who wants to import an RHD car from ireland to the US.

Maybe it is this guy

turniton

hi,
glad i cleared this.. it s the my first time to put an add on donedeal... btw, it s a dining table (new).. anybody interested? :-)

Chemical Byrne

turniton wrote: »

hi,
glad i cleared this.. it s the my first time to put an add on donedeal... btw, it s a dining table (new).. anybody interested? :-)

I find your item to be most acceptable. I can relay to you €300. The monies are in my account but in order to release the monies you'll need to send me a refundable €100 clearance fee.

Do we have a deal?

turniton

Chemical Byrne,
that sound like a fantastic deal.. and I m sure that, once I sent the €100, you ll actual send me €350, cause you r a good person

gaiscioch

This might be appropriate. I have something for sale on Donedeal. A guy just text me, asking me to email him "to arrange how to buy from you asap thanks".

The first thing: why does a name, and not a telephone number, come in with this guy's text (as if he is in my address book, which he's not)?

Second, why, if he wants me to email him, did he not just use the message function on donedeal? If I email him he'll know my name as well as my number, and I won't have any number or any verified name for him.


Dodgy?

L1011

He's using a text gateway system, and its a scam.

eeguy

Definitely a scam.

I put up a phone on done deal and had three different people contact me in a similar way.

Dard23

I hate donedeal, I was scammed once. I sold a laptop and the money was fake! Adverts is much better, at least they have to have an account and you can see their feedback.

gaiscioch

Here's the response I got (I used an old email without my name on it just to see what sort of response they'd give me)

Me: Yes, it's still available.

Them: Okay thanks for your reply , I'm ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I'm currently working as a navy officer and are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount plus the shipping cost which i will be adding 100 EUR. If you don't have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one, Just log onto www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying the item for my son as a gift who is working with a telecommunication company in abroad and i will like it to shipped via ANPOST REGISTERED,I look forward to hear from you with the information below so that i can proceed with the payment asap.

Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
Full name:
Firm Price:"

---

I've never used Donedeal before this, but I never received anything like this in terms of scams using Adverts.

gaiscioch

Another reply from somebody else to that ad:

"do you still have your [] for sale? reply me back with your whatspp number for better conversation"


Another scam, I suspect. But how would having my whatsapp number allow them to do so?

seamus

Probably a scam, but could be some cheapskate who doesn't want to text or ring you

gaiscioch

seamus wrote: »

Probably a scam, but could be some cheapskate who doesn't want to text or ring you

I just noticed that there is now a message above that person's message to me: "The conversation has been suspended by DoneDeal" (I never responded to them so "conversation" is perhaps being generous.)

Two responses, two attempts at scamming. If this is a commonplace experience for other users, the Donedeal owners would want to get on top of that.

grath

just wanted to add to this as a warning to others - I'm currently selling a car on donedeal and have been contacted by a gmail account that was newly registered in the last couple of days.

His last email to me was:
"Thanks for your response. €3,500 is a nice and acceptable price. I
will be adding the 3.9% PayPal surcharge to the total amount I will be
paying you. So i will be paying directly into your PayPal account
without any delay, and i hope you have a PayPal account.

If you have one already, just send me the address to send it to, which
is the email address you use for it or you can send me a PayPal money
request, so once i receive the details i will go ahead with the
payment through PayPal and then i will contact my shipping company
after you get the payment. I will need your home address for the
merchandise to be Picked Up by the Shipping Company.

Have a nice day."

The car is €3,500 ONO and he doesn't want to negotiate or see the car or anything. I found the exact same reply (except for price) on a couple of scam info sites. Obviously a paypal scam - these guys don't care about the "merchandise" and are only interested in a Western Union overpayment/shipping fee.

So if you are selling on donedeal and are having a similar conversation then you might want to back out of the deal.

foggy_lad

Dard23 wrote: »

I hate donedeal, I was scammed once. I sold a laptop and the money was fake! Adverts is much better, at least they have to have an account and you can see their feedback.

Done deal is now owned by distilled media same as adverts.IE, hope that is not the reason for the increase in scammers.

foggy_lad

gaiscioch wrote: »

Another reply from somebody else to that ad:

"do you still have your [] for sale? reply me back with your whatspp number for better conversation"


Another scam, I suspect. But how would having my whatsapp number allow them to do so?

Usually if they know what the item is they might be genuine as most scams use a generic form to send emails or texts so they say is the "item" still for sale instead of is your laptop/phone/bag of scrap etc still for sale.

Atlantic Dawn

Seriously stay off the internet, it's not for you if you think such a contact is legit.

billyhead

I was about to get scammed on done deal selling a bike. I thought it was all legit (silly me):(. The scammer got my paypal e-mail account and has my personal e-mail account and mobile. By him having my paypal account can he start withdrawing funds from my bank account which is linked into my paypal account without my consent?

uck51js9zml2yt

billyhead wrote: »

I was about to get scammed on done deal selling a bike. I thought it was all legit (silly me):(. The scammer got my paypal e-mail account and has my personal e-mail account and mobile. By him having my paypal account can he start withdrawing funds from my bank account which is linked into my paypal account without my consent?

Change your PayPal email address or close the account and open a new one.

Harry Palmr

When did this happen? Not sure if I'm reading your problem correctly but if someone has your password and PP e-mail addy, get a new addy (from an email generator if needed http://www.yopmail.com/en/email-generator.php) then go to your account make that your new addy and delete the existing one/s. Change the password while you are at it (probably time you did so anyway!).

NATLOR

billyhead wrote: »

I was about to get scammed on done deal selling a bike. I thought it was all legit (silly me):(. The scammer got my paypal e-mail account and has my personal e-mail account and mobile. By him having my paypal account can he start withdrawing funds from my bank account which is linked into my paypal account without my consent?

Yes if he has your email and password. No if its only email address

billyhead

NATLOR wrote: »

Yes if he has your email and password. No if its only email address

Thanks he only got my paypal e-mail address. He was looking for my date of birth though aswell which I never send to him

uck51js9zml2yt

billyhead wrote: »

Thanks he only got my paypal e-mail address. He was looking for my date of birth though aswell which I never send to him

For your own peace of mind, change your email address and password.

billyhead

Magnus Millions Mannequin wrote: »

For your own peace of mind, change your email address and password.

Thanks Tatranska for the advice. When I log into the paypal portal under profile I dont see an option to change my password. I just see add/edit bank account details. Add/edit credit/debit card/ add/edit delivery address and add/edit e-mail address

Harry Palmr

billyhead wrote: »

Thanks Tatranska for the advice. When I log into the paypal portal under profile I dont see an option to change my password. I just see add/edit bank account details. Add/edit credit/debit card/ add/edit delivery address and add/edit e-mail address

If you know your current password, you can change it from your PayPal account profile page. Here's how:

Log in to your PayPal account.

Click the Profile icon next to 'Log Out' and select Profile and settings.

In the 'My business info' section, click Change next to 'Password/Security questions'.

Select Password.

Click Edit. You may be required to confirm your account information.

Enter your current password and your new password.

Click Save.

billyhead

Harry Palmr wrote: »

If you know your current password, you can change it from your PayPal account profile page. Here's how:

Log in to your PayPal account.

Click the Profile icon next to 'Log Out' and select Profile and settings.

In the 'My business info' section, click Change next to 'Password/Security questions'.

Select Password.

Click Edit. You may be required to confirm your account information.

Enter your current password and your new password.

Click Save.

Thanks a mil. Found it

uck51js9zml2yt

billyhead wrote: »

Thanks a mil. Found it

Beaten to it

manna452121

I placed an ad and I got this today Hello Friend,


Thanks for your response,Am ok with your price and I need you to understand that i am willing and ready to purchase it right away, put it off the AD site, consider me as your favorite buyer, and Please note that i live in USA but right now am in Astor on the sea and due to my work as a marine engineer,I will not be able to come to view the merchandise or come for the pick up but i have a shipper/mover who handles my shipping arrangement anywhere in the world and i will make all transportation preparations for the it to be transported to my home in USA.If possible can you send me some recent picture?,My shipper will be coming for the pickup, after you have received payment, which would be through PayPal,So do you have a PayPal account for the payment?.


Regards...

When I done a Google search I found this https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=20497

Lets be careful out there

Capri

Lets be careful out there

'Nanny' DoneDeal have done it for you already :rolleyes:

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ONLY problem with this is that if the scammer's friend is in Ireland then the scam goes on, and genuine people from overseas (where I am at the moment ) cannot access DoneDeal. DD must be the only selling site to employ such an amateurish 'security' solution :P

L1011

Capri wrote: »

'Nanny' DoneDeal have done it for you already :rolleyes:



ONLY problem with this is that if the scammer's friend is in Ireland then the scam goes on, and genuine people from overseas (where I am at the moment ) cannot access DoneDeal. DD must be the only selling site to employ such an amateurish 'security' solution :P

Its amateur but I suspect it actually reduces the dodgy ads by a huge factor. Easier to just move on to another site than go in to bypass manoeuvres.

If its their only line of defence its a terrible defence, but it its just part of many there's no problem with it.