Brendan Rodgers sacked.

Harry Palmr

zerks wrote: »

Some good stuff from Lawro yesterday evening about the transfer comittee.Many signings were definitely foisted upon Rodgers and it seemed for every 3 or 4 "moneyball" picks,he was allowed his own choice of player.He actually didn't want Sturridge but he was signed anyway (that worked out).£300 million wasted on an awful lot of dross and that came down to the manager being either too weak to stand up and say no or was also caught up in the whole moneyball bollixology.

Does this show that FSG never really trusted him from the start to be allowed absolute control? If so,how does this bode for Klopp or whoever joins.I doubt anyone else would stand for having a comittee dictating who's bought or sold.

They wanted a Dof he wanted total control so they bodged a compromise.

Unfortunately Rodgers eye for talent is poor and so he treated players "foisted" upon him badly for the most part, making them marginal or using them like utility players and then shipping them off on loan.

He only trusted players he has watched in the prem so for every Sakho we get a Lovren, for every Markovic we get a Lallana, he wanted Clint Dempsey over Daniel Sturridge, wanted Lucas out, threatened to have a huff over Allen (regardless of the transfer fee, which may explain how Swansea got 15m for him!) doubled loaned Ilori and Alberto, got Benteke as a quid pro quo for the TC wanting Firmino.

Rayne Wooney

Caovyn admit you were wrong

And if you donate to temple street foundation I'll match it, at least something good will have come out of this long winded discussion

I'll leave it there

Rubber_Soul

zerks wrote: »

If so,how does this bode for Klopp or whoever joins.I doubt anyone else would stand for having a comittee dictating who's bought or sold.

Klopp worked under a sporting director at BVB, he's used to it.

Caovyn Lineah

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Caovyn admit you were wrong

And if you donate to temple street foundation I'll match it, at least something good will have come out of this long winded discussion

I'll leave it there

I wasn't wrong this time I'm afraid. You were lying and got called on it, man up.

I'll leave it there

Cantona's Collars

Rubber_Soul wrote: »

Klopp worked under a sporting director at BVB, he's used to it.

Not a committee who dictated on buying prospects that might make a few bob in the future.I'm fairly sure Klopp had more control at Dortmund than Rodgers did at Liverpool.

Mickeroo

Caovyn and Rayne, take it to PM and quit clogging the thread up with your inane childish nonsense. Actually, neither of you post in this thread again or you'll be carded. Thanks.

Cantona's Collars

Harry Palmr wrote: »

They wanted a Dof he wanted total control so they bodged a compromise.

Unfortunately Rodgers eye for talent is poor and so he treated players "foisted" upon him badly for the most part, making them marginal or using them like utility players and then shipping them off on loan.

He only trusted players he has watched in the prem so for every Sakho we get a Lovren, for every Markovic we get a Lallana, he wanted Clint Dempsey over Daniel Sturridge, wanted Lucas out, threatened to have a huff over Allen (regardless of the transfer fee, which may explain how Swansea got 15m for him!) doubled loaned Ilori and Alberto, got Benteke as a quid pro quo for the TC wanting Firmino.

I posted before that when it came to building a team,he's pretty poor.He does well with other coaches players but when the time comes to create his own team,it seems to go wrong.You as a Liverpool fan have probably spent a lot of time wondering on what kind of players were joining.

Knex*

Aaaaanyway.

Liverpool have arranged a press conference/announcement for 5pm, apparently.

Rubber_Soul

zerks wrote: »

Not a committee who dictated on buying prospects that might make a few bob in the future.I'm fairly sure Klopp had more control at Dortmund than Rodgers did at Liverpool.

You've no idea how much control either had to be fair, neither do I. However from what I've read in the German media, Klopp obviously did have input into transfers at Dortmund but the main responsibility fell to Zorc.

And are you really trying to say Dortmund didn't buy prospects and sell them on for a few bob later too?

K-9

niallo27 wrote: »

1 players out of 4 or 5 doesn't sound right. No manager would stand for that.

Evans on off the ball was saying Firmino was a committee buy, Rodgers oked it but that meant the club bough Benteke for him.

It just seemed haphazard and always politics at play.

Klopp has worked with a committee before but I'd say, going on the press, he'll want the final say, as in a veto.

Francie Barrett

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Lads, nobody cares.

Someone is wrong on the internet though :pac:

brevity

Knex. wrote: »

Aaaaanyway.

Liverpool have arranged a press conference/announcement for 5pm, apparently.

Not sure if that's true.... In my excitement I never checked the reliability of the source!

K-9

Rubber_Soul wrote: »

Klopp worked under a sporting director at BVB, he's used to it.

I'm getting mixed up, had tc in my last post!

martyos121

Knex. wrote: »

Aaaaanyway.

Liverpool have arranged a press conference/announcement for 5pm, apparently.

It isn't true unfortunately, it was a fake account that posted that tweet, check the username of it again if you see it.

Cantona's Collars

Rubber_Soul wrote: »

You've no idea how much control either had to be fair, neither do I. However from what I've read in the German media, Klopp obviously did have input into transfers at Dortmund but the main responsibility fell to Zorc.

And are you really trying to say Dortmund didn't buy prospects and sell them on for a few bob later too?

Even United did that,resale value was important.Liverpool's transfer committee seemed to base their strategy on watching Youtube and playing FIFA rather than actual scouting.

stiffler123

Reading through the last few pages just reminds me of this.

ERG89

Knex. wrote: »

Aaaaanyway.

Liverpool have arranged a press conference/announcement for 5pm, apparently.

And then it's Ancelloti

rob316

Just in case your living under a rock. That ****, overrated manager Jurgen Klopp is the new Liverpool manager. Can't believe he went to such a small club, could of hung around a bit and got the West Ham job

He'll never take over. People are deluded

Magico Gonzalez

rarnes1 wrote: »

He'll never take over. People are deluded

Sure, just a small club hiring a young inexperienced manager :pac:

martyos121

He's no Gary Megson.

Billy86

Hats off to Liverpool, I genuinely did not think they would be able to attract a manager of Klopps level - that has to be one of the bigger managerial coups in quite a while, and certainly explains the timing of Rodgers sacking. Disappointed as he would have been one of if not the best candidate to replace LVG at the end of next season for a number of reasons, but now that he is at Liverpool I can confidently say he is no better than Steve Staunton. Such an overrated spoofer, than Klopp!

Oat23

I don't know why anyone would be shocked at this. It's not that big a coup. It's Liverpool and Klopp. They are a match made in heaven.

Liverpool are a huge club with a high ceiling. If a side like Spurs managed to get him that would be a bit of a surprise.

Iused2likebusts

Oat23 wrote: »

I don't know why anyone would be shocked at this. It's not that big a coup. It's Liverpool and Klopp. They are a match made in heaven.

Liverpool are a huge club with a high ceiling. If a side like Spurs managed to get him that would be a bit of a surprise.

I also think it's far more likely a top class manager would go to Liverpool rather than a top class player. Players careers are a lot shorter than managers so they may not want a couple of seasons out of CL. Klopp also can remember the days when Liverpool were one of the best around no current player can. Kloop maybe views liverpool in a different light than a lot of younger people . At the end of the day Liverpool aren't that far behind the top 4 but with a stadium due to be extended and a decent squad there is definetly the potential to break into it. I personally think it would be a clever move by Klopp.

murpho999

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I also think it's far more likely a top class manager would go to Liverpool rather than a top class player. Players careers are a lot shorter than managers so they may not want a couple of seasons out of CL. Klopp also can remember the days when Liverpool were one of the best around no current player can. Kloop maybe views liverpool in a different light than a lot of younger people . At the end of the day Liverpool aren't that far behind the top 4 but with a stadium due to be extended and a decent squad there is definetly the potential to break into it. I personally think it would be a clever move by Klopp.

So how did the likes of Coutinho, Suarez etc sign for Liverpool then?

Magico Gonzalez

murpho999 wrote: »

So how did the likes of Coutinho, Suarez etc sign for Liverpool then?

in fairness both were prospects for greatness when they joined rather than big name players, the transfer fees reflect that.

Iused2likebusts

murpho999 wrote: »

So how did the likes of Coutinho, Suarez etc sign for Liverpool then?

They weren't the players they are now before they signed

Billy86

Oat23 wrote: »

I don't know why anyone would be shocked at this. It's not that big a coup. It's Liverpool and Klopp. They are a match made in heaven.

Liverpool are a huge club with a high ceiling. If a side like Spurs managed to get him that would be a bit of a surprise.

There is a major issue for Liverpool in terms of finances - trying to compete with City, United and Chelsea consistently is going to be very, very difficult for them. Added to that, the squad needs a lot of work - transfers were probably Rodgers biggest Achilles heel. I would have reckoned he could have gone to a number of bigger and/or richer clubs, possibly even Chelsea depending on how this season continues, so in that regard it absolutely is a massive coup. If I were a Liverpool fan, I would be over the moon.

citytillidie

This thread

Flint Fredstone

Resurrect it, that's the way to sort it out alright.
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