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Buying a house in Clongriffin

  • 02-10-2015 5:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    my partner and I are thinking in buying a house, and we see that houses in Clongriffin are cheaper than other zones like Artane, Raheny, etc.

    Could you give us some advice? How is living there?
    The zone that we liked is the neighbourhood of houses that is located at the left of Main St if you come from the station. Are they nice?

    We went the other day for a walk, and we saw that there are very few stores opened. Any chance in the future in which stores are coming to Clongriffin? We are not sure of buying there if the zone is that "dead".

    Thank you in advance!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Moved to Dublin City.

    tHB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Dunno about Clongriffin but I'm loving living in Kilbarrack which is much cheaper than Artane/Raheny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭volono


    hi o.p. difficult dilemma, the area in itself is nice imo but the estate was built during the boom, beside the dart station was suppose to be a Supervalu or Tesco's I think.
    The building itself for that planned shopping centre is still there of course. At the moment your right, there's not a lot there shops wise, maybe an off licence, take away and a pharmacy. Will it improve in time re: shops and services, almost definitely imo.
    It's very centrally located with train and bus services into the city centre and beyond, donaghmede /Clare hall / Baldoyle shops etc. are all very much on your doorstep basically, The Q. is can you wait and then put up with the extra development of the area that will almost certainly come ??, monetary wise can u afford to move into the other areas mentioned?? which imo are all settled and nice places to live, best of luck with your decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭markpb


    Depending on where you work, it may be worth checking the Dart timetable. Clongriffin is not as well served as the stations either side of it which was a dealbraker for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭akesha


    We think it is best to buy there now that they are cheap, as my partner thinks that in a few years the shops will come. But I read that the zone is dead since 2009/2010, and I am afraid that the stores won´t come. How many people bought/rented there for the last few years? Is the number increasing?

    About our budget, actually it is not a problem. We both are IT engineers with a good salary (60K and 65K) and good savings (66K, and increasing around 4K per month). It is just that we don´t want to spend more than 300-350K, and obviously the less we spend, the better (we are seeing houses in Clongriffin that cost around 260K).

    The other day we came back to the city center by taxi, and we saw a little bit of Raheny and Artane, and I think they are more settled, but buying there could cost around 100K more, so it is a difficult decision...

    Edit:

    I am working in Sandyford, but I have a free shuttle which I catch in D'olier St.
    My partner is working next to Thomas St, so I suppose he will need to take the bus, or dart + bus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭evosteo


    akesha wrote: »
    We think it is best to buy there now that they are cheap, as my partner thinks that in a few years the shops will come. But I read that the zone is dead since 2009/2010, and I am afraid that the stores won´t come. How many people bought/rented there for the last few years? Is the number increasing?

    About our budget, actually it is not a problem. We both are IT engineers with a good salary (60K and 65K) and good savings (66K, and increasing around 4K per month). It is just that we don´t want to spend more than 300-350K, and obviously the less we spend, the better (we are seeing houses in Clongriffin that cost around 260K).

    The other day we came back to the city center by taxi, and we saw a little bit of Raheny and Artane, and I think they are more settled, but buying there could cost around 100K more, so it is a difficult decision...

    Edit:

    I am working in Sandyford, but I have a free shuttle which I catch in D'olier St.
    My partner is working next to Thomas St, so I suppose he will need to take the bus, or dart + bus.

    Have a look at some houses around grangemore in donaghmede, grattan lodge/hall and clare hall if you have a decent budget. You could easily get a house there in a settled area under your budget and maybe look at renovating or extending. Personal opinion but I feel anything thats been build in the last 10 years in ireland with some exceptions has been done to a poor building standard just so the builder can make a better profit. Expect more "priory hall" scenarios in the next few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭akesha


    evosteo wrote: »
    Have a look at some houses around grangemore in donaghmede, grattan lodge/hall and clare hall if you have a decent budget. You could easily get a house there in a settled area under your budget and maybe look at renovating or extending. Personal opinion but I feel anything thats been build in the last 10 years in ireland with some exceptions has been done to a poor building standard just so the builder can make a better profit. Expect more "priory hall" scenarios in the next few years.

    Those zones are far away from the dart, and I see through google maps that going to the city center in the morning by bus takes around an hour. This is too much, I would like to be max 30-35 min away from city center. For getting to my job, it would take an hour and a half, I don´t want to spend that much time commuting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭volono


    with that budget you have lots of options have a look for a place in donaghmede, grangemore, grangeabbey etc, theres plenty of choice in the 280k price range, I know I'd rather a 3 bed house in those areas instead of clongriffin even though they're actually vey close by. You'd have donaghmede shopping centre, howth junction dart station on your doorstep best of luck


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 736 ✭✭✭chillin117


    akesha wrote: »
    I am working in Sandyford, but I have a free shuttle which I catch in D'olier St.
    My partner is working next to Thomas St, so I suppose he will need to take the bus, or dart + bus.
    Or get down to Graingers Malahide Rd and get the 123 across the road to Thomas St


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    volono wrote: »
    with that budget you have lots of options have a look for a place in donaghmede, grangemore, grangeabbey etc, theres plenty of choice in the 280k price range, I know I'd rather a 3 bed house in those areas instead of clongriffin even though they're actually vey close by. You'd have donaghmede shopping centre, howth junction dart station on your doorstep best of luck

    ^^ On the OP's budget I'd be in agreement here.

    There are much nicer area's in Dublin 13 for the OP's budget than Clongriffin IMO.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭akesha


    As I said, not all zones in D13 suit us because of commuting. Having the dart line nearby is a plus. So Clongriffin and Baldoyle are the ones in which I am looking houses.
    Also D5, because it is closer to the city center and you can have dart line depends on the zone.
    We are open to look in another zones, like D7 (Navan Road, Cabra).
    And we love the south part but it is quite more expensive (we lived in Dundrum for a while).

    We are looking for a 3 bed house, and we would like to spend less than 300k actually. There are two detached houses in Clongriffin at the moment around 250K so we are quite excited about them. It is a taugh decision though, and we need to start viewing houses before making any decision. I am working in the paperwork for an approval in principle already, so hopefully we will have it in less than a month :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Thought I made this comment but in regards to D5 I'm living in Kilbarrack, it's 15 mins into Tara street on a good run on the DART, houses are cheap, area is nice, DART is very handy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭akesha


    Thought I made this comment but in regards to D5 I'm living in Kilbarrack, it's 15 mins into Tara street on a good run on the DART, houses are cheap, area is nice, DART is very handy.

    Oh yes, sorry, I didn´t mention your post. Kilbarrack is a nice area and we are interested in it, but at the moment there isn't much houses on sale there (in daft there are only 2, and I don´t like them). I'll take a look once in a while to check if more houses come into selling :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    akesha wrote: »
    Oh yes, sorry, I didn´t mention your post. Kilbarrack is a nice area and we are interested in it, but at the moment there isn't much houses on sale there (in daft there are only 2, and I don´t like them). I'll take a look once in a while to check if more houses come into selling :)

    There's a lot sold recently. DAFT isn't the best for house sales, it's worth checking but I found Myhome.ie better.

    Did you start another thread or something? What I meant was I thought I'd already mentioned Kilbarrack. Dunno maybe it was deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,827 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    You'll find 3 bed houses in Marino for about €350k......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭akesha


    There's a lot sold recently. DAFT isn't the best for house sales, it's worth checking but I found Myhome.ie better.

    Did you start another thread or something? What I meant was I thought I'd already mentioned Kilbarrack. Dunno maybe it was deleted.

    I think you are the first reply to this thread talking about Kilbarrack :S
    I am checking myhome as well, thanks for the advice, I didn´t know that myhome is best for buying :)

    Gloomtastic, 350k is the top of my budget, but I rather buy a house further for 250K than in Marino for 350K. I think it is a huge different paying 100K + interests more... don´t you think?
    If every house cost around 350K, my opinion would be different... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,827 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    akesha wrote: »
    Gloomtastic, 350k is the top of my budget, but I rather buy a house further for 250K than in Marino for 350K. I think it is a huge different paying 100K + interests more... don´t you think?
    If every house cost around 350K, my opinion would be different... :)

    Fair enough, but quality of life is important too......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    akesha wrote: »
    I think you are the first reply to this thread talking about Kilbarrack :S
    I am checking myhome as well, thanks for the advice, I didn´t know that myhome is best for buying :)

    Gloomtastic, 350k is the top of my budget, but I rather buy a house further for 250K than in Marino for 350K. I think it is a huge different paying 100K + interests more... don´t you think?
    If every house cost around 350K, my opinion would be different... :)

    Sorry about the confusion, there is something funky with either my computer or boards, posted to Helpdesk. My posts seem to be going missing. Didnt mean to come across as I wasn't getting your attention :D

    Best of luck with the house hunt!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Did you start another thread or something? What I meant was I thought I'd already mentioned Kilbarrack. Dunno maybe it was deleted.

    Not deleted, just the system is having some trouble resulting in posts disappearing randomly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭akesha


    Fair enough, but quality of life is important too......

    Could you explain further? Do you think that living in Clongriffin would mean poor quality of life? Why?

    We both are 31 years old, and we don´t go out much, maybe once or twice per month to have dinner and drink some beers/cocktails. Apart from this, I think that more or less I have everything nearby (dart/bus, schools, lidl at 15 min walking, cinema in coolock, city center in around 30 min of transport). We are thinking about buying a car as well, so getting to places won´t be a problem.

    Opening this thread was meant to know the problems that I can´t see living in a place like Clongriffin, so I am really interested in your answer :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭markpb


    Commuting. Getting from Clongriffin to Sandyford is going to take a long time every day. You'd want to budget an hour each way, probably more.

    The frequency of the Dart from Clongriffin is nothing to write home about. Mornings are okay (10 minute wait) as long as you don't need to get in early (there's a 30 minute gap after 7am). The evenings are worse, there's only a train every 20 minutes.

    If the shuttle bus from town gets stuck in traffic, you might want to look at walking from Pearse to SSG but that's a 15 minute walk plus 20 minutes on the train and 25 on the Luas plus waiting times.

    I looked at doing that exact commute early this year and wrote it off as a bad idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    would you consider Baldoyle? Houses around grange road, meadow book and seagrange for sale. you have the option of the 2 dart stations then and numerous buses to town. also a more settled area and possibly a better built older house


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭bajer101


    Some of the houses in Clongriffin suffered from the pyrite issue. I think they have all been fixed, but you might want to check it out.

    There are a couple of new housing estates in nearby Balgriffin which are worth looking at Parkside and St. Doolaghs. It's a five minute walk to Clongriffin Dart station, but it's a five minute drive and there is free parking at the station. DART frequency is less than ideal (as Clongriffin is on the Malahide fork), but they are reliable. Check out the timetable and see if the DART times suit you. I get the 8:32 (which is very punctual), to get into town for 9. I get the 17:20 from Tara St. home (which is usually 3 or 4 minutes late).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭akesha


    markpb wrote: »
    Commuting. Getting from Clongriffin to Sandyford is going to take a long time every day. You'd want to budget an hour each way, probably more.

    The frequency of the Dart from Clongriffin is nothing to write home about. Mornings are okay (10 minute wait) as long as you don't need to get in early (there's a 30 minute gap after 7am). The evenings are worse, there's only a train every 20 minutes.

    If the shuttle bus from town gets stuck in traffic, you might want to look at walking from Pearse to SSG but that's a 15 minute walk plus 20 minutes on the train and 25 on the Luas plus waiting times.

    I looked at doing that exact commute early this year and wrote it off as a bad idea.

    At the moment I am living in Thomas St, and it already takes me one hour to get to Central Park. I walk to D'Olier every morning to catch the shuttle, and in the evening it leaves me in Dawson St. There is usually no issues with traffic, but I have another choice as there is another shuttle from and to Blackrock.

    One hour of commuting is not the best, but I assume it. More than that, it is too much.

    Also, around frequency I don´t see the problem. We are from the northwest of Spain, and the train frequency was 30 min and sometimes 60 or even 90, so it is just a matter of getting the right one and waking up early enough xD I lived in Madrid as well and the frequency was 10-20 min, during the weekends more, and I think Madrid has one of the best commuting system in the world.

    So, basically, I don´t think it is that bad.

    neris, yes, I have Baldoyle in my list (which is basically, Clongriffin, Baldoyle, Kilbarrack, Raheny, Coolcock, Artane, and Cabra and Navan Road in D7).

    bajer101, the houses I am looking are second hand, but I will take a look about the pyrite issue, thanks for the advice. We don´t have a car at the moment. It is in our plans to buy one, but after purchasing the house.

    Do you think it is impossible for Clongriffin town center to open? Not now, but in several years? I read that people weren´t living in Clongriffin, and when we went for a walk there were a lot of people getting off the dart. Could be that the number of people is increasing? If the economy starts to recover, people start to work and buying houses, is a chimera to think that clongriffin could be what it is supposed to be in, I don´t know, 5 years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 Dublin13


    I lived in clongriffin from 2006 to start of this year. We had been waiting for that shopping centre to open for a long time, superquinn pulled out. There is work going on in it but extremely unlikely anything will open any time soon.
    There is a Chinese restaurant, a centra, an off licence, a chipper an Italian restaurant and A hub that does yoga etc etc. Location is close to a lot. Our reasons for leaving and selling were that the estate just was not settled enough. Plus the Management company. House wise the mgt fee is not too bad but the Mgt company are extremely different to get to do anything in the estate. The roads were also way too narrow for us with a young child. The parking in Clongriffin is a huge issue, in the apt's and on street, you can drive around walk around about 6-7pm every evening and you will see cars parked double and on paths etc. There is a huge amount of rented properties now, so it is more renter occupied than owner occupied. All I can say is, those questions you asked in your last post we asked about 7 years ago.... and none of it happened, in fact our pharmacy closed down and nothing replaced it.

    There is a large Polish community in the estate so I did find I did not know as many neighbours as when I First moved in.
    yes houses did have pyrite but all houses were complete and cleared of this, and all will have certs to prove it a number of years now. Plus
    The new houses at the park look lovely and they seem to have been given more parking than the older parts of the estate. They seem to have bigger gardens also, and off street parking. The park beside main street is amazing and if you have kids a wonderful place to take them. The staff in all the shops and locations are amazing.

    As said I've moved out since the start of the year, I don't miss the place really, as I love being in a more settled area, however everyone is different. Its a young vibrant community and busy and lots of kids playing and happy. If you want that and don't mind it isn't settled then I would say even with the negatives (which every place has), it is a very nice place to live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭akesha


    Thank you very much for your post Dublin13. It helped a lot.

    We don´t mind that isn´t settled right now, and in the case of changing our minds, we can do exactly what you did, move to somewhere else.
    At the end, LIDL is located 15 min away by walking, and for shopping/going out we can go to clare hall or city center, so I don´t think it is that bad.

    Thanks again! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 Dublin13


    that's no problem. It's not that it isn't settled. For a housing estate that is still so young, I do feel its settled, But I mean its not settled in relation to a 30/40 year old housing estate (what we wanted).

    Lidl is very handy, also as you said Clarehall (mind not much in that shops really), but its very close to the local beaches, parks, all in quick driving distance. Creche if you have or want to have kids is right in the middle of the estate and amazing.

    If your looking for a young vibrant estate, with a lot of activity (in a good way), then it is ideal. We moved in and loved it for those reason. Young people, young kids etc etc.. then we moved when it felt right. It will never be a place I look back and regret for one bit that we moved there. But for other reasons and for a more settled estate we moved out.

    Best of luck if you do decide to put in an offer, I have seen some beautiful houses go up recently for sale, not the new ones now (they are nice mind) but slightly more settled houses in there that have been done up amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭akesha


    Thanks a lot Dublin13. We found your posts very useful.

    Indeed we are thinking in having kids in a few years, and are not looking for 30-40 year old housing estate yet, so we think it is the right place for us at the moment.

    We finally got sale agreed in a house in BeauPark, so we are really excited planning all things we want to change/buy in order of feeling it our home. Luckily we will be living there in Christmas time or in January :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭WarZ


    I'm pretty sure there was a shoot-out between some Eastern European gangs there the other week. I think the local Chinese take-away was shot up in the melee.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭uli84




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    uli84 wrote: »

    That's crazy.

    I don't live too far from here, and I train in Father Collins Park most evenings and never heard a thing about this shooting.

    Of course there's already been two gangland murders in Clongriffin in recent years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 blackbelted


    akesha,

    Can you please let us know how is the experience living in Clongriffin?

    We are also like yourself 2 IT engineers with decent budget and deposit saved. Belltree houses looks nice and reasonably price.

    However I have no idea about the area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭akesha


    I only moved in a week ago, but as far as I can tell, it is very quiet and nice.

    There is only one supermarket for now, Centra, but you can order online in Tesco, and Lidl is not that far, and if you have a car, you won't have any problems.

    The two restaurants, romayos and ravellos, look nice. I only tried romayos for now, food is not bad, and they are very nice.

    Hopefully, the more people start living here, more stores will open.

    Dart line is pretty handy, I am going to city center and villages around in a few minutes.
    Belltree seems quite far away from Dart line, though. But if you are ok with that, go ahead.

    Let me know if you have any doubts :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 GiGi99


    CLONGRIFFIN ; thinking of moving into the area. Told Social Housing under The Iveagh Trust in and around Beaupark, and towards the end of Grange Lodge Avenue, and Marrsfield although, not interested in Marrsfield area. The Iveagh Trust say there is an Estate Manager, with whom I spoke, who said that there is a mixture of families and pensioners. Grange Lodge Avenue, is just to the right off Main street when you are facing the Dart Station. You turn first onto Grange Lodge Avenue. The apartments I am interested in are on the right hand side immediately as you turn round onto Grange Lodge Avenue. These are PRIVATE, not social housing, and there is a courtyard to the rere and behind that again are fields which I am told belong to the school and are playing fields for sports.

    Does anybody know if this particular area is okay? I notice security in the train station and the Glass Windows shattered there. I am an older lady, on my own, ie 59 years. What does anybody advise? Thank You.
    I really would appreciate any advice. Its the train more than anything that is the attraction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    I've moved there mid-November, and so far it's been definitely ok. I'm in one of the apartments on the Main Street (the Romayos/Ravello buildings) and the place itself is nice - modern, relatively well built and organized.

    I am not sure about the rating but I never, not even once, felt the need to turn the heating on since moving in. When you come back in from outside, you definitely get the "warm air impact" walking through the apartment door. I let the storage heaters charge one night in order to check they worked, and the next day I was sweating.

    I spoke with a couple other residents who in turn said their apartments aren't well insulated and they have the heating blasting 24/7; Now I DO like slightly chillier temperatures than most (like 16-18 degrees inside, even 'though I come from southern Italy, go figure!), but it still had me puzzled. It's either that I'm benefiting from the heating of the apartment below mine going through the floor, or maybe the landlord has done some insulation work on his own on the property (he used to live there himself until a couple of years ago).

    The building itself seems to be populated by an heterogeneous mix of people - some young families with little kids, some single professionals and couples, both from Ireland and abroad.
    akesha wrote: »
    ...
    The two restaurants, romayos and ravellos, look nice. I only tried romayos for now, food is not bad, and they are very nice.

    If you haven't tried the Big Beef, do. Most of the stuff they do is all right, that one however does stand out :)
    akesha wrote: »
    Dart line is pretty handy, I am going to city center and villages around in a few minutes.
    Belltree seems quite far away from Dart line, though. But if you are ok with that, go ahead.

    Let me know if you have any doubts :)

    Only issue with the DART is the frequency every 30 minutes, considering it is in the end a metropolitan transit system. If you miss your train, the wait is fairly annoying - especially in the evening, coming back.

    However, if you are around late enough (I often do come back after 9pm), the 15 bus is a valid alternative - with little traffic, it takes more or less the same time as the DART (20 mins from Connolly, vs the 17 of the DART) but goes every 10 minutes.

    From April, DART frequencies should drop to 20 minutes...if the drivers agree :rolleyes:

    akesha,

    Can you please let us know how is the experience living in Clongriffin?

    We are also like yourself 2 IT engineers with decent budget and deposit saved. Belltree houses looks nice and reasonably price.

    However I have no idea about the area.
    GiGi99 wrote: »
    CLONGRIFFIN ; thinking of moving into the area. Told Social Housing under The Iveagh Trust in and around Beaupark, and towards the end of Grange Lodge Avenue, and Marrsfield although, not interested in Marrsfield area.

    Can't say I have noticed their presence if they really are there. I have ended up living near council estates in Cork, and believe me - you'd be aware 24/7 that they were there.

    Especially from the Grange Lodge Av., I see a lot of people getting on the DART in the morning - and they are clearly workers. I have seen the occasional "types" (you all know what I'm talking about, let' leave the PC stuff at the door), mostly in Romayos (again, the chipper seems a natural magnet to these people), but they mostly arrived and left in cars, so they weren't local.
    GiGi99 wrote: »
    Does anybody know if this particular area is okay? I notice security in the train station and the Glass Windows shattered there. I am an older lady, on my own, ie 59 years. What does anybody advise? Thank You.
    I really would appreciate any advice. Its the train more than anything that is the attraction.

    The security in the station, as far as I know, it's Irish Rail's and they are onboard the train in the evening hours.

    There is area security in the evening, you'll see them slowly driving around the area every evening after dark, in a clearly marked "Security" 4x4.

    Now, I'm a big guy in his 30s so maybe not the preferred "pick" of prospect criminals/wasters, but I do see many senior gentlemen walking their dogs in the evening, couples with kids and women of all ages jogging alone at all times, not to mention the ones going and coming from work using the 15 bus and the DART, so I'd say the area is relatively safe.

    I've noticed the shattered glass, it broke a few weeks ago and to be honest, I have no idea what happened. There are some teenagers skating/skateboarding in the station during the evenings, but I don't think they'd be smashing the glass (unless they miscalculated a braking maneuver :D).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 GiGi99


    Thank you all so much for the responses. Its a great help.
    Regarding the skateboarders, as long as they weren't SPEEDING at the same time!!! Was taking a lovely one in Finglas but they are putting up the Modular rapid housing for the homeless opposite near Poppintree. There was also trouble at the Centra there too. There is an Estate Manager handles the Beaupark area and he said that in fact, its the private apartments that are of concern, due to private lettings, that their own properties are under control. On a different note, I would say with the recession starting to abate, and houses nearby shooting up again, that it is only a matter of time now for commercial units to be taken up by retailers. The population is growing out there. A smiley would go here, if I knew how to access one.
    If anything further occurs to any of you, of if anybody else has anything to say, please comment. Appreciate it. GiGi


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 GiGi99


    NORTHERN CROSS; Anybody any views on this particular area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭gabria


    Northern cross is more Dublin 17, but OK. A nice organised area of office blocks, apartments and shops. Balgriffin in between Clongriffin and Northern Cross looks better. Anyone checked the Parkside area still being built?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    I've been in Clongriffin for close to a year and it's slowly starting to upset me. We will probably move out of the area soon.

    The transport option are not great in terms of frequency but they are manageable. The #15 bus takes you down Main street which is convenient. Otherwise the #27 bus (could be wrong) takes you fairly close. It will take you 20 minutes to walk to Main Street is you feel so inclined.

    The Malahide train stops at the station all the time. The Dundalk train also stops at Clongriffin but after 7pm it skips the station which can be annoying if you're not aware of it. It will stop at Howth Junction and Portmarnock, but not Clongriffin. Weird.

    You can also take the Howth train and climb off at Howth Junction and walk to Main Street (30 minutes) if you feel so inclined.

    As for the area itself, I do like it and the lack of shops is not an issue for me. I order from Tesco and they deliver to me which I am happy with.

    What I do not like about Clongriffin are the vandalists! These young criminals have been increasing their anti-social behavior progressively and nothing seems to be done to stop them.

    Just last week (21st March) these delinquents stole rubbish bins from Grange Lodge Avenue and set them alight! They've also been steadily breaking windows on shops and at the train station. The problem with this behaviour is that it leads to the Broken Window Theory

    It's fairly easy to spot these anti-social delinquents, they were track suits as clothes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Konata


    Wondering if anyone has any experience about the noise from the trains/DART? Recently viewed a house in Clongriffin but the train line passes right at the end of the garden. No trains or DARTs passed during the viewing unfortunately and we will try to go back to experience the noise ourselves but interested in any views/experience. Someone mentioned to me that the DART isn't too loud but that the intercity/commuter trains can be quite loud? Would there be freight trains during the night?

    Love the house otherwise but this aspect could be a deal breaker...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,990 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If you are concerned about noise, isn't Clongriffin on the flight path of main Dublin airport runway?

    I've only been there passing through during the day, so can't comment on the train situation, but I distinctly recall noticing the planes.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Konata


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    If you are concerned about noise, isn't Clongriffin on the flight path of main Dublin airport runway?

    I've only been there passing through during the day, so can't comment on the train situation, but I distinctly recall noticing the planes.

    I've heard the planes from inside and outside several houses and it's really not so bad, particularly from inside. But I think having trains passing by your backdoor is a little more concerning - particularly if there might be freight trains during the night. It mightn't also be so bad though, that's what I'm trying to find out.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Konata wrote: »
    I've heard the planes from inside and outside several houses and it's really not so bad, particularly from inside. But I think having trains passing by your backdoor is a little more concerning - particularly if there might be freight trains during the night. It mightn't also be so bad though, that's what I'm trying to find out.

    Not in Clongriffin, but I live directly beside a train track. Trust me, you don't notice them at all after a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 CT2


    I've bought a house in Belltree, Clongriffin which should be ready by November 2016

    Has anyone here moved into Belltree?

    I would be interested to hear of any issues that came up when you moved in. Builder snag list etc. Unforeseen delays. any comments bad or good would be appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 sarah.ck


    CT2 wrote: »
    I've bought a house in Belltree, Clongriffin which should be ready by November 2016

    Has anyone here moved into Belltree?

    I would be interested to hear of any issues that came up when you moved in. Builder snag list etc. Unforeseen delays. any comments bad or good would be appreciated.

    We're moving into Belltree too and its due to complete in November aswell. There's a thread on boards called Parkedge/Clongriffin and there's a good few posts about Belltree. Parkedge is right beside Belltree too. You should have a look at it.
    I can't post the link though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 CT2


    Thanks, I found the Parkedge thread. I've put the same post up on it. I've viewed the building site last weekend and saw that people have now moved into the first phase and most of the houses under construction are at the stage of getting the roofs completed. I have friend, who work on some of engineering side of the development . I know there has been pyrite issue in the area in the past, but i was told by my friend that a lot random batch tests have been carried out on materials used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 pm073131


    Hi

    My partner and I are thinking of buying an A type (ground + 2 stories) house in Belltree. The house plan is good except for the fact that there is no bathroom on the first floor.

    Apparently, the builder has had a lot of queries on this from other people as well, but they can't change the design/layout now.

    Does anyone know if it is allowed to build a bathroom or anything else within the house (no external change or extension) and if anyone has made any changes to their houses in Belltree.

    Thanks
    PM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭James Delaney


    I know your considering a 3 storey house.
    However is there 2 stories - 3 bed preferably - would u know the price or builder to contact for newly built homes ?

    Personally I think Griffin is a good location - but with a good community spirit, it could really be a lovely place to live with residence taking pride in their estate.
    Its well serviced by buses & dart. But it comes down to people taking pride in the area & building a community & involving their kids in sport etc. If there are plenty of Private owners I feel this can happen.

    I'd appreciate comments on this issue, particularly from Existing residents with their knowledfe of the area & what type of attitude is displayed by existing residents - Is there existing problems & anty unsociiable behaviour ?
    I.e assaults, robbery, intimidation, vandalism, stolen cars etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057398105/1

    Big thread about the development here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 pm073131


    You can check the Belltree and Parkhomes development website. They have 3 bed houses in the price range of 300-320k.


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