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legend or not ???

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭Deep Six


    PTH2009 wrote: »

    Yes because female on male child abuse is legendary :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭DivingDuck


    Deep Six wrote: »
    Yes because female on male child abuse is legendary :confused:

    I think the OP means the boy would be a legend in the eyes of his peers for "scoring a fit teacher", and I suspect the OP would be right.

    That does not, however, mean that the teacher would be right, or that the boy's peers would feel the same way in five or ten years' time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Didn't it happen all the time in the Christian Brothers Schools?












    Yup after further reading this kid was sexually abused as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭turniphead


    Niiiiiiiiiicceee


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    She had sex / statutorily raped the boy 50 times and she only got a suspended sentence / community service? Good lord.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Don't stand so close to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,467 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    theres more to this story id say. why didnt he say it to someone after the 1st time. ???.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Aidan Holland


    Personally if it was me and I was having sex with a hot teacher at 15 it would be amazing along as she did not get pregnant. I wouldn't mention it to many of my friends as we see so often in America.I mean your 15 horny as hell wanting to bang every hot woman you see and your offered it on a plate come on like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    theres more to this story id say. why didnt he say it to someone after the 1st time. ???.
    Why doesn't any abuse survivor do that? Grooming has a funny auld effect. And he may actually have enjoyed the physical sensation, the attention etc at the time... but was then hit later on by just how much she took advantage of him, particularly given her position.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 55 ✭✭You Mirin?


    Teachers and cases like that need to be treated much harsher to deter others from doing it in the future. Yeah, most common morons would think "fuk, I wish I had that chance when I was that age" and put no further thought towards it but when you actually do you'll realise there's no telling how the children in these cases will react to these things when they're older so all teachers, regardless of gender, should receive the same sentences for similar cases. Even more so due to the fact that cases where it's a male teacher and female student more often than not result in much harsher sentences. This double standard should seriously be nipped in the bud.

    She's clearly attractive so it's not like she would have difficulty finding men to have sex with but instead she chooses to do this with young boys. Women like this are predators, pure and simple. She should never be allowed to work near children anymore, let alone teach them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Any womwn who has sex with a 15-year-old boy is insane. How do the **** do they expect the kid not to tell everyone...??

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Would the article read 'Schoolgirl seduced by male teacher speaks out'?

    No way

    It would be 'Schoolgirl raped by Pedophile male teacher bravely speaks out'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness




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    I hope and presume she was registered as a sex offender and will never work with children again.

    Perhaps kids might describe him as a legend, frankly I think the word adults should use for him is "victim".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Jon Stark


    Yeah you really have to wonder what a woman, who looks like that, is doing messing around with kids.

    Clearly not right in the head and pretty woeful sentence.

    That being said, it seems this kid is still being led astray, only this time by his mother. What kid would go on This Morning to talk about this of his own volition? Especially one who's confidence is smashed? I'm pretty sure Philip Schofield would be pretty low down in the list of blokes I'd confide in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Another judge who should consider handing in a their wig......


    You do have to wonder how much being a good looking lady influenced the sentencing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    #pussypass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    She had sex / statutorily raped the boy 50 times and she only got a suspended sentence / community service? Good lord.

    ity's ok cos she was hot woman
    only men and old bags should be sent down :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    She was not a teacher, who would have had to have a significant education - that is, it is not an easy qualification, and takes time - she was a teaching assistant, which at least until relatively recently did not require a lot of qualifications. A much easier way of getting into a position of trust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,733 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Terrible sentence handed down.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because full grown men that have sex 15 year old girls are also legendary.

    Am I doing this right? I mean.. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

    *sigh*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Because full grown men that have sex 15 year old girls are also legendary.

    Am I doing this right? I mean.. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

    *sigh*

    Unfortunately (and I think the sentence here is a good indicator of this) some people still believe not just that crimes like this are minor or trivial but also that women can't be sexual predators/ boys can't be victims in such a scenario. Its the male equivalent of the (thankfully somewhat on the wane) 'she was asking for it' stereotype


    I'm actually saddened that anyone would think the thread title appropriate for the matter at hand :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Holly Willoughby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,733 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    rereg is getting what they are looking for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Do you reject the notion that it could ever be a positive experience for a 15 year old male to have sex with his teacher?


    That's completely beside the point in this case. In this case, it hasn't been and wasn't a positive experience for the boy.

    What it could be or what it should be is inconsequential if the law says it shouldn't have happened in the first place. The laws regarding child protection are there for children's protection from adults who would seek to take advantage of their authority in a position of trust.

    I can understand the leniency of the sentence handed down, it's pretty much in line with other people who have abused their position of authority to commit sexual acts against minors. The issue with these cases for me is not regarding the person's sex, but regarding the leniency of sentencing generally speaking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Do you think it would be a positive experience for a 15 year old female to have sex with her teacher?

    Would you have sex with a 15 year old?

    The answer to both is of course no.

    But, if when I was 15 (male) I had've had sex with her 50 times or whatever, do I think my confidence would have been broken as a result?

    No I do not, at all. So.. I dunno what to make of that.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The answer to both is of course no.

    But, if when I was 15 (male) I had've had sex with her 50 times or whatever, do I think my confidence would have been broken as a result?

    No I do not, at all. So.. I dunno what to make of that.

    My post appears to have vanished.

    Anyway in the majority of these cases, it would seem that their trust and confidence have been shattered after these have finished. So it doesn't actually do anything for them, seemingly. It's how the rest of the world perceives them, not how they perceive themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    My teacher seduced me when I was that age too.
    Still bring fond memories back.







    I'll never forget you, Mr Murphy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Whitewinged


    The answer to both is of course no.

    But, if when I was 15 (male) I had've had sex with her 50 times or whatever, do I think my confidence would have been broken as a result?

    No I do not, at all. So.. I dunno what to make of that.

    Maybe if you experienced that it would be very different. She is in a position of power and there is no balance. A 15 year old is at a delicate age, with hormones and self esteem and she was exploiting that. He should not have to be dealing with the pressures of an adult relationship, and I mean mainly the mental pressures and expectations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Fúck me, is that blonde the teacher?
    She can abuse me anytime and that's the truth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Whitewinged


    Fúck me, is that blonde the teacher?
    She can abuse me anytime and that's the truth.

    Well you sound about the right age!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    I'm 42.
    When I was 15 I'd have jumped at the chance.
    I'm not condoning what she done, I'm just saying I personally would have jumped at the chance, that's all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I like how "Niiiiiice" is always brought up on these threads since the joke is a parody on how people never take these kind of cases seriously when it comes to female sex offenders.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 TravellerOg


    At 15 years old in this day & age, young boys are young boys and IMO, I believe they know what they are doing, especially after 50 times.

    In saying that, it's worrying that a woman is resorting to a 15 year old for sexual pleasure. If the shoe was on the other foot, a man would be labelled a paedophile and on the sex offenders list as well as a long stint in prison. Suppose it goes to show how messed up the system is.

    Where do you draw the line...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    At 15 years old in this day & age, young boys are young boys and IMO, I believe they know what they are doing, especially after 50 times.

    In saying that, it's worrying that a woman is resorting to a 15 year old for sexual pleasure. If the shoe was on the other foot, a man would be labelled a paedophile and on the sex offenders list as well as a long stint in prison. Suppose it goes to show how messed up the system is.

    Where do you draw the line...?


    That's a nonsense claim really. You can't possibly state how any case would play out based on nothing more than the gender of the perpetrator. Maybe you weren't aware of cases like this one -


    Judge criticised after claiming 16-year-old pupil groomed teacher


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    Regardless of how attractive this woman is or how good it is perceived for the boy, she's a paedophile. Has she been signed on the sex offenders register?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Whitewinged


    At 15 years old in this day & age, young boys are young boys and IMO, I believe they know what they are doing, especially after 50 times.

    In saying that, it's worrying that a woman is resorting to a 15 year old for sexual pleasure. If the shoe was on the other foot, a man would be labelled a paedophile and on the sex offenders list as well as a long stint in prison. Suppose it goes to show how messed up the system is.

    Where do you draw the line...?

    So you think 15 year old boys in this day and age "know what they are doing" in these circumstances therefore do you not believe that she should be labelled a pedophile and put on the sex offenders list?


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    She's either a hebephile or an ephebophile, not a paedophile as far as I know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 TravellerOg


    That's a nonsense claim really. You can't possibly state how any case would play out based on nothing more than the gender of the perpetrator. Maybe you weren't aware of cases like this one -

    I wasn't aware of this article but thanks for showing me, the man is still on the sex offenders list right which is correct as he was with an underage girl.

    However, it's amazing to see the judges actions (You can even see in the headline how he was criticised) as he seen that maybe this man was emotionally unstable and weak at the time and carried out the act.

    It was a wrongful act as he was in a position of trust and the girl took advantage of it.

    I'm just saying that even the news headline and any comments online about the above article, societies perception will see him labelled as a 'paedophile' where as the woman in the previous article may not be seen in the same light. She should have been punished further as she's in a position of power (and the sex offenders list)

    I just think there may be more to this story from the boys point of view..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    That's a nonsense claim really. You can't possibly state how any case would play out based on nothing more than the gender of the perpetrator. Maybe you weren't aware of cases like this one -


    Judge criticised after claiming 16-year-old pupil groomed teacher
    Ironically you've highlighted the double standard in another manner. The article you've linked to appertains to the criticism that followed a suspended sentience where the perpetrator was male. What criticism was reported in the OP's article? None.

    That you even found a case doesn't really prove what was said was nonsense - to do that you'd have to show that male and female perpetrators are treated equally in law, and we both know that this won't happen - there's plenty of evidence (at least in the UK) that shows that women across the board in criminal law are treated more leniently.

    And of course in Ireland, such discrimination is written into law. A woman cannot be charged with rape, so can only be charged with the lesser crime of sexual assault. For rape you apparently need to posses a penis - even a strap on won't do it, I'm afraid.

    Not to mention our glorious Romeo and Juliet laws that mean that when underage, girls are immune from prosecution, but boys are not.

    So, when you take the facts into account, it looks more like nonsense your claim that no case would play out based on nothing more than the gender of the perpetrator.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Because full grown men that have sex 15 year old girls are also legendary.

    Am I doing this right? I mean.. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

    *sigh*

    You do know that the "legend" nonsense is most likely uttered by other males, right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    That's a nonsense claim really. You can't possibly state how any case would play out based on nothing more than the gender of the perpetrator. Maybe you weren't aware of cases like this one -


    Judge criticised after claiming 16-year-old pupil groomed teacher

    Yes, in their feverish indignance, people seem to forego fact-checking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Paramite Pie


    Fúck me, is that blonde the teacher?
    She can abuse me anytime and that's the truth.

    When I was a 15yr old I had a crush on a male teacher who was 26(ish). Would it have been okay for us to have sex in your eyes? We're both male.

    Genuine question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I wasn't aware of this article but thanks for showing me, the man is still on the sex offenders list right which is correct as he was with an underage girl.

    However, it's amazing to see the judges actions (You can even see in the headline how he was criticised) as he seen that maybe this man was emotionally unstable and weak at the time and carried out the act.

    It was a wrongful act as he was in a position of trust and the girl took advantage of it.

    I'm just saying that even the news headline and any comments online about the above article, societies perception will see him labelled as a 'paedophile' where as the woman in the previous article may not be seen in the same light. She should have been punished further as she's in a position of power (and the sex offenders list)

    I just think there may be more to this story from the boys point of view..


    According to the article in the opening post, the woman was punished, in a similar way in which the male teacher in the article I linked to was punished -

    Berriman pleaded guilty to two counts of sexual activity with a child and a further charge of sexual activity with a child by a person in a position of trust. Her punishment was a two year sentence, suspended for two years.


    This refutes the claim I highlighted in your post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    Yes, in their feverish indignance, people seem to forego fact-checking.
    Ironic. And if you bothered to read my post, turns out it was One eyed Jack who forewent that fact-checking. But I suppose then you would be fact-checking if you had...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    So, when you take the facts into account, it looks more like nonsense your claim that no case would play out based on nothing more than the gender of the perpetrator.


    I didn't claim any such thing though. This was my claim -

    You can't possibly state how any case would play out based on nothing more than the gender of the perpetrator.


    I used that case to refute the point that poster made about the whole reverse the genders nonsense and if the perpetrator had been a man he would have received a lengthy prison sentence. Clearly in the case I highlighted, he didn't. He received a suspended sentence in spite of pleading not guilty. The woman in the opening post plead guilty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Ironic. And if you bothered to read my post, turns out it was One eyed Jack who forewent that fact-checking. But I suppose then you would be fact-checking if you had...


    I didn't forego any fact checking. The point of my posting that article was to refute an assertion made by a poster who hadn't checked their facts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Ironic. And if you bothered to read my post, turns out it was One eyed Jack who forewent that fact-checking. But I suppose then you would be fact-checking if you had...

    I'm currently I hospital receiving chemo so yup, as of now, I haven't done much reading. I did see your post though. The case was in the UK, and he another UK case. You started wittering on about Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    I didn't claim any such thing though. This was my claim.
    'Any case' in English means any case. This means that you were denying that any case would play out based on nothing more than the gender of the perpetrator. And oddly enough there's plenty of cases that would play out based on nothing more than the gender of the perpetrator.
    I used that case to refute the point that poster made about the whole reverse the genders nonsense and if the perpetrator had been a man he would have received a lengthy prison sentence. Clearly in the case I highlighted, he didn't. He received a suspended sentence in spite of pleading not guilty. The woman in the opening post plead guilty.
    Problem is that you're implying that the law is blind to gender and the reality is it's not. Whether you did so by accident, ignorance or deception is another matter.
    I didn't forego any fact checking. The point of my posting that article was to refute an assertion made by a poster who hadn't checked their facts.
    And neither did you as I pointed out.
    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    I'm currently I hospital receiving chemo so yup, as of now, I haven't done much reading.
    And this strengthens your argument how?
    I did see your post though. The case was in the UK, and he another UK case. You started wittering on about Ireland.
    I also addressed the UK. You've not read very carefully.


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    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    You do know that the "legend" nonsense is most likely uttered by other males, right?

    Would those males have sex with a 15 year old?


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