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Passport card finally on the way.

  • 30-09-2015 6:59pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 580 ✭✭✭


    Ireland's passport card is finally on track to bring launched.

    About bloody time too. It was always burdensome having to lug a full passport book when only going to mainland Europe.

    This can also act as a good and credible form of ID.

    If you lose it, it's not like losing a full passport book in terms of getting Garda stamps and restricting further applications of passport.


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0930/731505-passport-cards/


    I, for one, welcome these.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    ....

    It was always burdensome having to lug a full passport book when only going to mainland Europe.

    .....

    Wow.... 1st world problems


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    mikeecho wrote: »
    Wow.... 1st world problems

    :D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    mikeecho wrote: »
    Wow.... 1st world problems

    :rolleyes:, did you really have to make a comment.

    The OP is exactly right, having a card is a much more convenient option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    :rolleyes:, did you really have to make a comment.

    The OP is exactly right, having a card is a much more convenient option.

    I'm sorry you feel that reading my comment was such a burden on you, and I hope you won't be lugging around a grudge.

    ..insert smiley face etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Is this part of a Europe wide movement, because I for one would not put trust in border police in every country in the EU accepting these...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    I can't wait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭Nib


    Not sure about all these cards. If you loose your wallet, you're fcuked.

    No bank card, driving licence or passport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    another ****ing thing I have to renew every few years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    What a terribly written article. Diverges into something completely unrelated about US border policy...

    The cards were supposed to be launched by today (end of Sept) as /was/ written here https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/top-passport-questions/new-passport-card/

    They've removed all reference to sept and changed it just to "soon" (tm)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭random_guy


    Very useful and long overdue.
    When you need to give in your passport into an embassy for a visa etc you can still travel on the passport card.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Señor Fancy Pants


    Just barcode us and be done with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Just barcode us and be done with it.


    It would make so much so much easier.


  • Site Banned Posts: 205 ✭✭Datallus


    kneemos wrote: »
    It would make so much so much easier.

    And more convenient!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭fineso.mom


    But I keep the passports on a shelf in the dresser behind a picture frame. They stick up above the frame so I can always see them. The cards will be too small. I'll forget they are there and will have to search everywhere. No no, this won't do at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    And here I was thinking I'd heard Irish people moaning about everything, but never heard of our lack of card-sized passport replacements until today. Something new all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Handy to use for ID as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Is this part of a Europe wide movement, because I for one would not put trust in border police in every country in the EU accepting these...

    No it's not a Europe wide movement but many EU countries particularly within Schengen use their national identity cards as passports and these already accepted by Irish immigration upon arrival here.

    So now that Ireland is issuing it's own sort of card then updates will be sent to EU countries justice departments and then then added to accepted documents so I don't see how you foresee problems with border guards.

    What annoys me is that you have to pay extra for it and doesn't come with the passport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    I would like to get one of these ASAP, but with my main passport expiring early next year that means the passport card would expire with the main one, so I'll have to wait to next year. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,172 ✭✭✭SeanW


    They have these in the USA for people who mainly/only make land border crossings. Don't know if I'd want to have one in addition to my "normal" passport, why have two? If you just expected to go back and forth to the contient for 10 years it would make sense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭BettePorter


    Now the bad news ..... how much for the pleasure?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭StonyIron


    Apparently you have to apply using a smartphone app.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,763 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I presume they will use the same photo as is on the passport, if not the same ID will have 2 different photos and be idiotic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    This post has been deleted.
    Not only is it less burdensome than having to lug a full passport around, you also get to travel with a lighter wallet ? Is there no end to the wins with this thing ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭DivingDuck


    Will definitely be picking up one of these when they are available.

    I find I'm asked for ID non-stop when in the US, something that never happens here. Want to make a $50 card payment? ID. Want to buy a beer? ID. I once was asked for ID once when just trying to make a restaurant booking.

    My passport goes in the safe when I travel, as the idea of being abroad and without documentation as well as a wallet if you get pick-pocketed is a nightmare. It would be nice to have an alternative to carry around in those instances.

    Having half (or less!) the validity of an actual passport is a bit cheeky of them, though. I don't mind paying extra for it, but it shouldn't need to be renewed twice as often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    DivingDuck wrote: »
    Will definitely be picking up one of these when they are available.

    I find I'm asked for ID non-stop when in the US, something that never happens here. Want to make a $50 card payment? ID. Want to buy a beer? ID. I once was asked for ID once when just trying to make a restaurant booking.

    My passport goes in the safe when I travel, as the idea of being abroad and without documentation as well as a wallet if you get pick-pocketed is a nightmare. It would be nice to have an alternative to carry around in those instances.

    Having half (or less!) the validity of an actual passport is a bit cheeky of them, though. I don't mind paying extra for it, but it shouldn't need to be renewed twice as often.


    Been saying for ages that we need a national ID card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Is this part of a Europe wide movement, because I for one would not put trust in border police in every country in the EU accepting these...

    All European countries bar ourselves, the UK (of course we'd be following their lead), Norway (non EU), Iceland (same) and Denmark have national identity cards. We're bringing in one now and Norway in 2017. So that answers your first question.

    Also, i've personally seen Identity cards being accepted in other EU countries as travel documents. So yeah, they'll be accepted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 55 ✭✭You Mirin?


    Saw people using these at border patrol in different EU airports, wondered if it was only the natives of those countries that could use them when reentering their country but these working all around Europe is great.

    They won't work outside EU though, no? Because of visa stamps etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    You Mirin? wrote: »
    Saw people using these at border patrol in different EU airports, wondered if it was only the natives of those countries that could use them when reentering their country but these working all around Europe is great.

    They won't work outside EU though, no? Because of visa stamps etc.

    No they won't, for that reason. Asked about them in the Passport office when i saw the sign and was told as much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭random_guy


    Will it also have the chip function allowing use of the automatic gates?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    You Mirin? wrote: »
    <snip>

    They won't work outside EU though, no? Because of visa stamps etc.
    initially it isnt to be used outside of the EU, but the likes of the US doesnt do stamps in the passport any more (I have heard) so you really only need the paper booklet for countries where you get an actual visa in advance of travelling, or other rare 3rd world countries which really are not part of the itinerary of 95% of the population anyhow.

    most journies of Irish people abroad are to the UK, then the continent, and then farther afield.
    By rights (just like happens on the continent) the card should be your primary ID document and then for lads that like the nightlife in Thailand they can go get a full passport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    initially it isnt to be used outside of the EU, but the likes of the US doesnt do stamps in the passport any more (I have heard)

    I still consistently receive a WB (waiver-business) stamp at whichever US port of entry I arrive at.

    May be something different at play for those requiring an actual visa for admittance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Datallus wrote: »
    And more convenient!
    Nah, we've all been RF ID'd already. You didn't think those 'flu vaccines' were to stop you from getting sick did you?

    #oneworldilluminatigovernmentlizardpeople


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    spiralism wrote: »
    All European countries bar ourselves, the UK (of course we'd be following their lead), Norway (non EU), Iceland (same) and Denmark have national identity cards. We're bringing in one now and Norway in 2017. So that answers your first question.

    Also, i've personally seen Identity cards being accepted in other EU countries as travel documents. So yeah, they'll be accepted.

    Sorry but you have got this wrong.

    This is not the introduction of identity cards.

    Other countries have that, and you are legally obliged to have one and carry it all times.
    What Ireland is doing is simply introducing a card form of the passport. It's not compulsory and also you can only have one if you already have a normal passport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    This can't come soon enough for me. I'm going to London for the weekend and hate having to bring the passport for the airline boarding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,519 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Ah, finally. Entry to Arstotzka will be much easier now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭petrolcan


    spiralism wrote: »
    All European countries bar ourselves, the UK (of course we'd be following their lead), Norway (non EU), Iceland (same) and Denmark have national identity cards. We're bringing in one now and Norway in 2017. So that answers your first question.

    Also, i've personally seen Identity cards being accepted in other EU countries as travel documents. So yeah, they'll be accepted.

    Umm, the UK does not have identity cards.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/identity-cards-and-new-identity-and-passport-service-suppliers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Does Israel find forging these to be easier?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭323


    Another unnecessary waste of money, It is already possible to travel inside the EU without a passport. All that was needed was a EU recognized Driving License/ID.
    random_guy wrote: »
    Very useful and long overdue.
    When you need to give in your passport into an embassy for a visa etc you can still travel on the passport card.

    Why not get a second passport?

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,646 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    petrolcan wrote: »


    You have just repeated what he said.
    All European countries bar ourselves, the UK (of course we'd be following their lead), Norway (non EU), Iceland (same) and Denmark have national identity cards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,646 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    323 wrote: »
    Another unnecessary waste of money, It is already possible to travel inside the EU without a passport. All that was needed was a EU recognized Driving License/ID.



    Why not get a second passport?


    because a second passport is more expensive and less convenient to carry than a credit card sized passport card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,817 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Like Eircode, another useless (to me) piece of govt sponsored tat I will not be partaking of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Like Eircode, another useless (to me) piece of govt sponsored tat I will not be partaking of.

    What is the point of your post?

    The passport card is not sponsored, it's an optional extra to your passport that you have to pay for.

    So how you can compare it to post codes is beyond me. Governments aren't always bad you know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭petrolcan


    You have just repeated what he said.

    Move along, nothing to see here....

    :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭arch_stanton


    323 wrote: »
    Another unnecessary waste of money, It is already possible to travel inside the EU without a passport. All that was needed was a EU recognized Driving License/ID

    That's incorrect. To get from a non-Schengen country, eg. Ireland to a Schengen country you have to go through passport control with a passport or recognised European National ID card. Once your in the Schengen area there are no further checks so you can move from one country to another.

    This card is going to be very useful for me. In Spain all the locals have an ID card, the NIE, and you get asked for it all the time but we've had no equivalent apart from the full passport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    323 wrote: »
    Another unnecessary waste of money, It is already possible to travel inside the EU without a passport. All that was needed was a EU recognized Driving License/ID.



    Why not get a second passport?

    You won't get on a plane in Dublin to the continent with a driving licence.
    Ireland is not part of Schengen so a passport is required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭MillField


    Nib wrote: »
    Not sure about all these cards. If you loose your wallet, you're fcuked.

    No bank card, driving licence or passport.

    That's the issue I have with these changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,646 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    petrolcan wrote: »
    Move along, nothing to see here....

    :o


    you need to improve your reading comprehension. when a poster says that all euro countries BAR the UK and some others have national identity cards and then you try to correct them by saying that the UK dont have identity cards then its you that looks foolish. Admit you made a mistake and take it on the chin like a man.


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