Richmond Worlds 2015 - Elite Men's RR - 27 Sept *no spoiler tags req'd*

Beasty

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Sam Bennett and Conor Dunne riding for Ireland (and Chris Juul Jensen for Denmark;))

All My Stars Aligned

Can I ask how were the riders selected?

pelevin

I'd be very pleasantly amazed if Sam was able to be in the hunt on this circuit over such a distance. Rather than an obvious standout, seems to me like any one of many could win this. Didn't see the women's race but judging from the men's u23's, every chance of someone getting clear of the pack over those cobbled climbs late on, e.g. Terpstra, Stybar, GregVA, etc, etc. Alternatively the likes of Kristoff hoping it's together but that surely depends on dry conditions. Rain & it'll be fooking mayhem.

MPFGLB

All My Stars Aligned wrote: »

Can I ask how were the riders selected?

The best available riders

Beasty

MPFGLB wrote: »

The best available riders

Just to add. There is a formal process that will look at available riders at the elite level. They will also consider the course for events such as the World's. It's not simply a matter of picking the best available riders but also consideration should be given to how they would ride as as team to produce the best chances of success at national team rather than individual rider level

We discussed extensively this team selection in the main thread on the Worlds. The 2 top riders are simply not available and this selection is probably looking as much at future development rather than considering riders who perhaps could do a job but are unlikely to ever break through on the world stage.

rtmie

Kristoff is favourite at quite short price, presumably based on his classics form this year.
Threw the few coppers e/w on Alaphillippe at long odds.

bazermc

Kirby just referred to us a minor nation. The ****$$$.

Coming from a country that took years to get a Tour de France victory.

dave2pvd

Dunne trying to get up the road
https://goo.gl/photos/oonZ3GjwaCFWUCYN8

MPFGLB

bazermc wrote: »

Kirby just referred to us a minor nation. The ****$$$.
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See that's more of it from Kirby :eek:

velo.2010

The picture quality is not acceptable for a World championship race. I'll dip in and out during the day but if it stays like that for the business end of the race then it will be hard to watch without chucking something at the TV!

Brian?

Have a few bob on GVA. Course suits him.

JK.BMC

Sticking with my original 3:

Boassen Hagen @33/1
Greg Van NearlyhaveIt @10/1
Terpstra @40/1

Although this could turn into a complete lottery. Wud be delighted if Greipel did it, and top 10 for Sam Bennet wud be fantastic

pelevin

Every time someone complains about Carlton Kirby I'm going to say to myself, "Carlton Kirby is a legend. I love him infinitely."

Bugsy2000

Matthews @ 12/1
GVA @ 14/1
Sep VM @ 66/1

Two small random bets on
Jose Goncalves @ 200/1
Navardauskas @ 80/1

godtabh

I'll be an out of it for most of the day. Good to see an Irish interest in the break

dave2pvd

Gap getting larger
https://goo.gl/photos/Yoe3yTEkjrDCEvnL9

pelevin

godtabh wrote: »

I'll be an out of it for most of the day. Good to see an Irish interest in the break

Coincidence?

dave2pvd

Bennett looking comfy
https://goo.gl/photos/AyzRw6s3cLXx5CR17

D9Male

What is the issue with us being called a minor nation? Am I missing an in-joke?

Eamonnator

I'm watching it on BBC.
I miss Carlton.

mhiggy09

Dunne in the break looking comfortable and seen Sam near the front going onto the cobbled climb so must feel good to

Brian?

Eamonnator wrote: »

I'm watching it on BBC.
I miss Carlton.

Put on BBC for a minute there. It's the Lizzie Armistad tribute hour.

godtabh

Brian? wrote: »

Put on BBC for a minute there. It's the Lizzie Armistad tribute hour.

Shocking that the Britisith Broadcasting Coperation (or what ever BBC stands far) would be signing the praises of the new British world champion

Eamonnator

Brian? wrote: »

Put on BBC for a minute there. It's the Lizzie Armistad tribute hour.

better than listening to Kirby waffling.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Classic from the Eurosport commentator.

He's just told us that Edgar Allen Poe who spent his childhood in Richmond apparently wrote a story called "The Crow".

scott.s

Don't understand why people complain so much about the commentary...

If you had to talk constantly for 6 hours of cycling coverage I'm sure you'd come out with the occasional bit of crap. I quite enjoy Carlton Kirby's commentary and random tangents.

Eamonnator

Before the U.C.I. award the World Road Race Championships to a city, they should satisfy themselves that the organisation will be able to transmit television pictures of a reasonable and consistent quality.

Eamonnator

scott.s wrote: »

Don't understand why people complain so much about the commentary...

If you had to talk constantly for 6 hours of cycling coverage I'm sure you'd come out with the occasional bit of crap. I quite enjoy Carlton Kirby's commentary and random tangents.

I'm not really complaining, just passing time, until the action kicks off.

dragratchet

yeah its been consistently patchy, always switching between feeds once it starts glitching. how can the tour manage it so well and these lads cant on a much smaller circuit?

scott.s

Ah wasn't targeted at you really. Just seen too many moaning comments in the last few days.

Anyway, this should be a good race. Glad to see Conor Dunne up in the break and Bennett sitting comfy in the pack.

MPFGLB

scott.s wrote: »

Don't understand why people complain so much about the commentary...
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There are 7 hours to fill and Kirby talks alot of rubbish...mostly as if he he knows everything about everything

Mind you I like Matt Stephens alot...he manages to talk fro hours without being a pain in the ass and sound like he is from the 13th century

MPFGLB

pelevin wrote: »

Every time someone complains about Carlton Kirby I'm going to say to myself, "Carlton Kirby is a legend. I love him infinitely."

I do the same when people complain about Chris Froome or Richie Porte

I say to myself they are two of the best in the world

gordongekko

godtabh wrote: »

Shocking that the Britisith Broadcasting Coperation (or what ever BBC stands far) would be signing the praises of the new British world champion

Are we not claiming her as irish now?

RobFowl

MPFGLB wrote: »

I do the same when people complain about Chris Froome or Richie Porte

I say to myself they are two of the best in the world

Both showing themselves off well today

MPFGLB

RobFowl wrote: »

Both showing themselves off well today

just like Dan Martin & Nicolas Roche ....not fit and/or doesn't suit them

Eamonnator

I just saw a lad in the crowd on Libby Hill with a big poster, saying "Go Lance"

Darkglasses

scott.s wrote: »

Ah wasn't targeted at you really. Just seen too many moaning comments in the last few days.

Anyway, this should be a good race. Glad to see Conor Dunne up in the break and Bennett sitting comfy in the pack.

Proud member of Carlton Kirby's twitter fanclub here. People just complain about him more often

pelevin

Carlton Kirby is a legend. I love him infinitely.

RobFowl

MPFGLB wrote: »

just like Dan Martin & Nicolas Roche ....not fit and/or doesn't suit them

Dan and Nico have at least finished the Worlds regularly ....

Remember Da Roche won Giro, Tour then Worlds despite being tired"
Kelly won and rode everything from Feb through to the end of the season
Proper cyclists

pelevin

Froomey abandoned the Worlds a couple of years ago cos it was raining. That was pretty good.

JK.BMC

Ok, whose turn is it to go to the fridge?
Mine's a belgian, thanks

MPFGLB

As I said when people complain about Froome I am reminded he is the best GT rider in the world at the moment :P


Was that Sam Bennet I saw moving up

pelevin

JK.BMC wrote: »

Ok, whose turn is it to go to the fridge?
Mine's a belgian, thanks

A Belgian fridge?

JK.BMC

pelevin wrote: »

A Belgian fridge?

Nah, Im ok for fridges.
I was nearly nodding off there
But really looking forward to the last 3 laps

MPFGLB

Kirby " Valverde has been told at the breakfast table that it will be every man from himself" " And Other Spansih riders to Valverde " No mate I am not riding for you"

That there is the made up rubbish I am talking about
He has no access to these discussions and do you think that the Spanish riders make up their own mind about who rides for who and Valverde is very liked by his Spanish team mates except by Purito and that is competition
Valverde is Spain's best option

Kirby should not make up rubbish and be so biased both against and for riders (Cadel Evans,Attapuma,Froome) and treat us like we are stupid

RobFowl

The Worlds is largely a war of attrition.
Fascinating to watch even when nothing seems to be happening....

Eamonnator

peleven,
you're up!

Beasty

Eamonnator wrote: »

Before the U.C.I. award the World Road Race Championships to a city, they should satisfy themselves that the organisation will be able to transmit television pictures of a reasonable and consistent quality.

That would probably blow Ireland's chances of ever getting them.....

Brian?

godtabh wrote: »

Shocking that the Britisith Broadcasting Coperation (or what ever BBC stands far) would be signing the praises of the new British world champion

Did I express surprise, shock or displeasure?

It was a comment on what was on bbc at the time versus what was on eurosport. Look for offense elsewhere.

Brian?

The longer this goes on the less likely I see a bunch sprint. I'm defining bunch as anything over 30 riders. I'm happy my money is on GVA.

JK.BMC

RobFowl wrote: »

The Worlds is largely a war of attrition.
Fascinating to watch even when nothing seems to be happening....

This year's route makes for exciting racing, even more than usual. Pity about the dodgy TV