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If Black Lives Matter.........
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24-09-2015 11:42pm#1............ Blacks Need To Stop Killing Each Other
Just read a very interesting article that touches on the cherry picking of statistics to force a designated cultural narrative.
Black people in the US are being killed which is a terrible thing. However, most people (myself included) would be under the impression that a great proportion of the killings are due to white police, if we are to believe the current social justice narrative.
However, the vast majority of people killing black people in the US are...............black people.........
I think it's worth a read but the article is below for those interested:
The biggest violent threat to African-American communities is neither the “white” police (for example, the Baltimore officer allegedly most responsible for Freddie Gray’s death was black) nor white people in general. It is blacks themselves. Of all the blacks killed in the United States over the last 35 years, only a fraction have been killed by law enforcement and a small minority by the broader white population.
The numbers may be “large” for these two categories of white-on-black crime (America has 320 million inhabitants) but they are spectacularly dwarfed by the rate at which blacks will shoot, stab, and otherwise maim each other.
93% of murdered blacks between 1980 and 2008 were murdered by fellow blacks. More recently, the proportion was 91%. Even Politifact, which interprets “facts” according to a leftist agenda, rated Rudy Giuliani’s referencing of the 1980-2008 statistics (when he criticized last year’s Ferguson riots) as “Mostly True,” adding the very nitpicking technicality that blacks mostly live amongst fellow blacks. This also suggests that whites would be killed in greater numbers by blacks if neighborhoods were more racially assimilated.
Or, in other words, people will kill each other in the context they find themselves in, undermining, again, the mantra that a purported white shooter and shot black (or the reverse) is always a case of racist hate.
Victimhood depends on the gender or race of the parties involved
The tragic death of homeless man James Boyd over illegal camping allegations received, surprisingly, some ample coverage by the media. It still accounted for very little compared to Eric Garner’s death. The reason? Race.
The white-on-black crime hysteria has much in common with the vitriol surrounding feminism and alleged crimes against women. Tears may flow from families but outrage is thoroughly muted, especially from the likes of the NAACP, when a black child is murdered in an area like South Central Chicago.
Why? Because the probable offender is almost guaranteed to be black, like the victim. That hypothetical black child (actually far from hypothetical if you watch the news) lying dead on the streets of urban Illinois is afforded not even an iota of the attention given to a Michael Brown, whose shooting death, albeit heart-wrenching for his relatives, was reported by many black witnesses as being a case of Officer Darren Wilson acting in clear self-defense.
I personally regard the death of African-American Eric Garner in New York as a police homicide. The facts are different in kind from those surrounding Michael Brown. Garner may well have been behaving illegally but the response from law enforcement was excessive and, in the end, fatal. That said, it is very selective to highlight Garner’s death at the expense of deaths like that of James Boyd.
I chose Boyd, who was white and homeless, because his plight, dying at the hands of Albuquerque police, did receive some wide media attention. It simply paled in comparison, however, to that provided to Garner, which cannot simply be explained by the video recording of Garner’s gruesome suffocation or the fact that police involved with Boyd’s shooting have been put on trial.
Both were accused of “minor” crimes at the times of their deaths, with Boyd allegedly camping illegally due to his homelessness and Garner supposedly selling untaxed cigarettes.
Based on the media and popular airing of the story we can safely say Boyd is a victim, but only at the bottom of a victim’s monument, whereas Garner is at the apex. Why? And God help your regular black-on-white, white-on-white or black-on-black homicide victim, who might be extremely fortunate to make the six o’clock news.
When will the “Black Lives Matter” movement go after black shooters and not Bernie Sanders?
Politically cuckolded liberal-socialist Bernie Sanders
It is conceivable that within the next ten years or so, SJWs will start to continually and explicitly blame whites for every trigger pulled by an African-American on another African-American. Right now, this allocation of direct responsibility to Caucasians is more implicit, brought up in conversations about slavery, Jim Crow and a twisting of the original civil rights movement (the actual civil rights of the 1960s, not the opportunism of a Sharpton or Jackson today).
Other mechanisms for apportioning blame includes “white privilege,” which tendentiously groups together the likes of affluent Mitt Romney and Donald Trump with greatly impoverished Scots-Irish white Americans in two of America’s poorest states, Mississippi and Alabama.
Meanwhile, aside from the occasional (excellent) Samuel L. Jackson video, which doesn’t even mention African-Americans specifically, few are interested in perceiving black people, most notably young black men, as free agents, whatever influences may be around them.
The convenient segue is to focus on the less than 1% of black deaths caused by police, which includes a great many instances of self-defense and needing to protect the public. When the “hate the police” narrative temporarily runs out of steam, one can always confront Bernie Sanders, the “Black Lives Matter” movement’s lackey, and accuse him of some sort of thoughtcrime for “not doing things right.”
Will those really interested in black lives please stand up?
“Gangsta” rap’s glorification of violence has probably killed many times more people than all police shootings, justified and unjustified, combined.
You do not cure cancer that has metastasized throughout most of the body by treating, say, only one’s left hand. So if the rate of black deaths is an issue without any equivalent, which is already doubtful when other racial deaths are being calculatedly quarantined from the underlying discussion, a holistic approach to combating violence is what will matter and pay dividends. A politicized method designed to please a Rachel Dolezal or Louis Farrakhan only serves to divide, antagonize, and hide the facts.
Beleaguered liberals like Bernie Sanders and ex-Maryland Governor and Presidential candidate Martin O’Malley, who was booed for saying “All Lives Matter”, suddenly sense that the putrid corn syrup they and their leftwing colleagues have been feeding to the African-American community and SJWs for years is now being vomited up on them. For sanity’s sake, the only choice is to confront the festering wound of black-on-black crime.
No parent, boyfriend or girlfriend, spouse, child or friend deserves to have their loved ones taking from them in a homicide. Yet what a homicide is seems to change daily, according to the wishes of those pursuing their own agendas. Worse still is how a black death is only really considered a death by SJWs if a white or the “system” is behind it.
The majority of black deaths are thus deemed irrelevant by the same folks claiming black lives matter. How typical.17
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NachoBusiness wrote: »
Get out of my head! I was just about to post that.
But it does highlight fantastically the short-sightedness of the Black Lives Movement. I haven't seen the video in a while, but doesn't she talk about the Black Lives Matter people protesting a scumbag who was killed while doing scumbag things by cops, but doesn't nothing about a little girl who was killed by a black person.0 -
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Got any proof?
I guess it would depend on the subtleties of how you statistically phrase the question. And judging by a quick read over his posting history so far you are far less likely to get subtleties in his answers than you are to get inflammatory comments designed to get a reaction - though a quick look looks like most of them so far failed to get reactions. Even his posts declaring the asylum crisis an "invasion" and Merkel a "traitor".
As he phrased it however he is 100% wrong. The vast majority of crimes appear to be committed by "white" folk in the US. But this is not surprising at all given "White Americans are the racial majority, with a 77.7% share of the U.S. population." while "African Americans are the largest racial minority, amounting to 13.2% of the population. "
What he was probably trying to say is that they commit more crimes per capita which seems to be true on the face of it - but is a statistic that hides a multitude of social and economic factors than mere skin color. Again subtleties I do not think you will find from that particular source.
The 2012 statistics from the FBI here for example show that "In 2012, 69.3 percent of all individuals arrested were white, 28.1 percent were black, and 2.6 percent were of other races."
If there is a 6:1 population difference then one might expect a 6:1 statistical difference in the crime statistics. But this is far from the reality the figures show. Especially in areas like "Robbery" where the majority is in fact the reverse.
In fact the only crimes I see where the 6:1 ratio is in any way upheld appears to be in Alcohol related crimes. A fact that probably also hides a wealth of subtleties regarding US drinking culture.
Of course looking at crime statistics in this fashion, as I said, tells you almost nothing unless someone is looking to do nothing but throw out sound bites about how blacks commit more crimes than whites. But behind such statistics there is a world of complexity which - as with all statistics - means it "simply is not that simple".
I would be more depressed by the fact that in one single year there was 9,390,473 arrests. A number in the area of being double the population of our entire country here.
And 1160 of those arrests were for the crime of "Suspicion"
I can only imagine what that is. Nor is it obvious where arrests for "terrorism" or anything of the sort fall under the categories shown. There is also a section on arrests for "curfew". Are there places in the US with laws on curfew? I never knew. 0 -
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TaxAH: Yeah, it's pretty lazy trolling but he did go to the effort of specifying "violent crimes" so I think he might be leaning more towards the "black people are more violent" as opposed to "black people are more criminal" flavour of racism
As for curfew laws: yup. They have some surprising laws in the U.S. that often appear to contradict the "land of the free" image, especially in the middle. Entire counties where alcohol is illegal, or dancing, or whatever.
Satan: so that's a no on the proof then, just more inflammatory remarks? Oooookkkaaayyyy....0 -
Satan is Real wrote: »And you can't that deny
Why would I deny it? Such a statistic is essentially the exact same thing as I have just described for all the same reasons I just described it
Yeah, it's pretty lazy trolling
Very quickly turning into his MO if you do a history check.As for curfew laws: yup. They have some surprising laws in the U.S. that often appear to contradict the "land of the free" image
Who knew. Anyone better in the know than me, itd be interesting to know where curfew laws are in effect and what the law actually is.0 -
Yeah, it's pretty lazy trolling but he did go to the effort of specifying "violent crimes" so I think he might be leaning more towards the "black people are more violent" as opposed to "black people are more criminal" flavour of racism
As for curfew laws: yup. They have some surprising laws in the U.S. that often appear to contradict the "land of the free" image, especially in the middle. Entire counties where alcohol is illegal, or dancing, or whatever.
Yes I'm a troll because I don't blindly follow the liberal narrative. Pitiful.0 -
Deleted User wrote: »Why would I deny it? Such a statistic is essentially the exact same thing as I have just described for all the same reasons I just described it
Very quickly turning into his MO if you do a history check.
Who knew. Anyone better in the know than me, itd be interesting to know where curfew laws are in effect and what the law actually is.
Plus the fact everyone seems to forget when discussing this, which is that law enforcement officers don't necessarily arrest everyone on an equal basis - who they actually arrest and who they let off with a warning can be influenced by lots of factors, including bias.0 -
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