UPC Compal CH7465 - New 802.11ac modem

yellow_minion

degsie wrote: »

Can this
1) allow ipv4 port forwarding?
2) allow creation of static routes?
3) use dyndns?
4) allow you do define your own dns addresses?
5) create firewall rules to allow/disallow certain devices at certain times?

If so I'd be interested

Maximum Number of devices 10


DHCPv4 server
This sections allows you to configure how the Virgin Media Hub 3.0 assigns IPv4 addresses. It is configured to be a DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) server by default. This provides the TCP/IP configuration for all connected devices.

IPv6 port filtering
This section allows you to configure the traffic policy for your internet service:

IPv6 firewall
Firewall protection
Block fragmented IP packets
Port scan detection
IP flood detection
ICMP flood detection
ICMP flood detect rate


Guest network
This is a secure and separate network which provides
wireless internet access for your guests.
All devices connected to this network will not
be able to access your own WiFi network.

DHCPv6 server
This section allows you to configure how the Virgin Media Hub 3.0 assigns IPv6 addresses.

Reserved IP addresses

there are 20 downstream channels.
Standard specification compliant : DOCSIS 3.0
Hardware version : 4.01
Software version : CH7465LG-NCIP-4.50.18.15-1-NOSH

Remote access
Enabling remote access allows your Virgin Media Hub 3.0 settings to be accessed from a device located outside of your home network. We recommend that you disable remote access when not required, as leaving it enabled could introduce an unnecessary security risk to your network.

yellow_minion

bk wrote: »

Looks like UPC (Virgin Media) have a new 802.11ac router on trial with customers in Ireland:

Key features:
- 802.11ac with beamforming
- Dual concurrent 2.4GHz and 5GHz radio
- EuroDOCSIS 3.0 Cable modem supporting 24 downstream channels and 8 upstream channels

I've found a manual for it in Czech:


The manual mentions a modem mode (bridge) in the options, but no guarantee that makes it to Ireland.

This is great news, obviously we need to wait and test it out, but the wifi seems like a vast improvement over their existing modems. The specs seems similar to the Archer C7/8 that I often recommend.

The number of DOCSIS channels is also very interesting. The existing modems only have 8 channels downstream, which allows for 240Mb/s, so with support for upto 3 times as many channels they should easily be able to hit 500Mb/s and maybe even close to 1Gb/s with this new modem *

* Of course a lot more needs to be done in the network and headend to support more channels and bandwidth, but at least the modems is capable of it, which is an important step.

Lets hope they also keep the bridge/modem mode for Ireland.

Very interesting news, this has the potential to fix all the complaints people have about UPC's broadband service and deliver much higher speeds

in the current firmware there is 20 downstream and 4 upstream channels

yellow_minion

PixelTrawler wrote: »

Maybe people on the trial can mention if they are on ds-lite

yes....it is dslite

dub45

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Well their attitude to the last change would imply they don't seem to be actively trying to stop it anymore.

Unfortunately nothing seems to have changed in that regard:(

sysconp1

I received one of the CH7465LG modems as part of my upgrade to 360Mbps with VM. I fired up the box when it arrived and I was pleased by the range of features, however.... The firmware from VM came down in two tranches and boy did the features disappear. The original firmware had IPv6 support and more firewall features, however after the first tranche these disappeared. I received telephone support after the second tranche, so don't worry you will get the feature after your upgrade.
Why VM have chosen to remove IPv6 and some of the Firewall features is baffling and to be very honest I feel let down after initially seeing them in place prior to the firmware "upgrade". DOCSIS also received a downgrade as part of the "upgrade" moving from DOCSIS 3.1 to DOCSIS 3.0, but I assume this gives a taste for the future. Oh and to add that the box does have a modem feature that provides an exposed external IP ready for your own router. I think this may be the route that I take to provide a little more security than is provided by the current firmware.

ED E

Dont think that makes sense, these arent supposed to support 3.1, just more 3.0 channels.

sysconp1

sysconp1 wrote: »

I received one of the CH7465LG modems as part of my upgrade to 360Mbps with VM. I fired up the box when it arrived and I was pleased by the range of features, however.... The firmware from VM came down in two tranches and boy did the features disappear. The original firmware had IPv6 support and more firewall features, however after the first tranche these disappeared. I received telephone support after the second tranche, so don't worry you will get the feature after your upgrade.
Why VM have chosen to remove IPv6 and some of the Firewall features is baffling and to be very honest I feel let down after initially seeing them in place prior to the firmware "upgrade". DOCSIS also received a downgrade as part of the "upgrade" moving from DOCSIS 3.1 to DOCSIS 3.0, but I assume this gives a taste for the future. Oh and to add that the box does have a modem feature that provides an exposed external IP ready for your own router. I think this may be the route that I take to provide a little more security than is provided by the current firmware.

I doubt that it was a firmware change. More likely, the DOCSIS configuration file was downloaded and disabled whatever Virgin don't want to be used.

I suppose this does show that the device is DOCSIS 3.1 capable though. Good to hear about the bridge mode too.

degsie

Karsini wrote: »

Good to hear about the bridge mode too.

Even if you can bridge, are you still subject to the restrictions of DSLite? I mean in terms port forwarding etc.

degsie

degsie wrote: »

Even if you can bridge, are you still subject to the restrictions of DSLite? I mean in terms port forwarding etc.

You would be, but you can PM the reps here and move back to v4 if you want it.

Karsini

Karsini wrote: »

I doubt that it was a firmware change. More likely, the DOCSIS configuration file was downloaded and disabled whatever Virgin don't want to be used.

I suppose this does show that the device is DOCSIS 3.1 capable though. Good to hear about the bridge mode too.

Well I take that back, there was indeed a firmware change.

Got one of these yesterday. Although mine didn't have any extra features in the original firmware and still displayed DOCSIS 3.0. The phone function was disabled; I figure it was originally a VM UK firmware as they don't use PacketCable VoIP. After the firmware update and reboot, the modem came up with the phone ports enabled.

I like the detailed DOCSIS stats, shows a lot more info than the previous UPC modems.

Dave..M

Hey there, does this have a proper bridge mode i.e. public ip on the LAN?

Dave..M

Dave..M wrote: »

Hey there, does this have a proper bridge mode i.e. public ip on the LAN?

It does indeed. When you log in, there's a modem mode option on the left. After you set it, it reboots into bridge mode and the power LED turns purple.

Dave..M

Karsini wrote: »

It does indeed. When you log in, there's a modem mode option on the left. After you set it, it reboots into bridge mode and the power LED turns purple.

Great, thanks, I may retire my trusty old TWG soon so!

sonofenoch

Do they send this modem out if you upgrade to 360mb? and what happens the Thompson do you need send it back

sonofenoch

sonofenoch wrote: »

Do they send this modem out if you upgrade to 360mb? and what happens the Thompson do you need send it back

Yes, the Compal is the standard issue for the 360Mb service. If they don't send you one, tell them and then they will. I got it automatically.

The new modem comes with a padded envelope to return your old modem. Or, if you have it with you when the courier arrives, they'll take it back on the spot.

chaps

Hi Guys,

I'm not sure I saw the question about Dyndns capabilities answered about the compal modem on this thread.
Anyone could help by any chances?

Thanks,

ChAp's

chaps

chaps wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I'm not sure I saw the question about Dyndns capabilities answered about the compal modem on this thread.
Anyone could help by any chances?

Thanks,

ChAp's

It's a very basic UI. Doesn't have dynamic DNS capability. You'll need to bridge or use PC-based software for it.

chaps

Karsini wrote: »

It's a very basic UI. Doesn't have dynamic DNS capability. You'll need to bridge or use PC-based software for it.

Thanks for your answer.

Cheers

M.J.M.C

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M.J.M.C

Thought I would post this here rather than creating a new thread.

I just got this Compal router have two questions

1 - How is that it's able to broadcast only one SSID but use both 2.4GHz and 5GHz at the same time
My Archer c8 can only do this with two seperate SSID's
2 - I got an Archer C8 on the advice from here to improve WiFi over the old Horizon UPC Box which worked great.
I have the Archer disconnected at the moment and not having any issues, is it worth keeping?
Since I have it would I be better off using the Compal in mode only mode?

Thanks

ED E

M.J.M.C wrote: »

1 - How is that it's able to broadcast only one SSID but use both 2.4GHz and 5GHz at the same time
My Archer c8 can only do this with two seperate SSID's
2 - I got an Archer C8 on the advice from here to improve WiFi over the old Horizon UPC Box which worked great.
I have the Archer disconnected at the moment and not having any issues, is it worth keeping?
Since I have it would I be better off using the Compal in mode only mode?

Same way a school or business can have 20 APs transmitting the same SSID. As long as there isn't frequency overlap its just fine. The downside in a residential setting is you can't manually select which band you want to use easily.

If your usage is light enough you could get away with just the compal, depends on your needs.

dionsiseire

I'm struggling with this Compal modem

When I test over Ethernet, 360mb
When I test over wifi, 100mb
When I test over wifi with an external router plugged in (also 802.11AC) I get 288-360

Virgin seem to have no internet in discussing the possibility that their Wifi signal is sub standard. After far as I'm concerned, 802.11AC is capable of 300-700mb depending on the setup and quality of equipment. I got 100mb on 802.11N previously so this isn't an upgrade in terms of technology but they don't see this as an issue as 360mb works over ethernet.

dionsiseire

I'm struggling with this Compal modem

When I test over Ethernet, 360mb
When I test over wifi, 100mb
When I test over wifi with an external router plugged in (also 802.11AC) I get 288-360

Virgin seem to have no internet in discussing the possibility that their Wifi signal is sub standard. After far as I'm concerned, 802.11AC is capable of 300-700mb depending on the setup and quality of equipment. I got 100mb on 802.11N previously so this isn't an upgrade in terms of technology but they don't see this as an issue as 360mb works over ethernet.

dunworth1

I got this modem last Friday and I'm having some issues with the 5g wifi it'll work away for about a day or so and then stop.

I then have to reboot the modem to get it working again only happens with the 5g not the 2.4g anyone else experience this?

ED E

dionsiseire wrote: »

I'm struggling with this Compal modem

When I test over Ethernet, 360mb
When I test over wifi, 100mb
When I test over wifi with an external router plugged in (also 802.11AC) I get 288-360

Virgin seem to have no internet in discussing the possibility that their Wifi signal is sub standard. After far as I'm concerned, 802.11AC is capable of 300-700mb depending on the setup and quality of equipment. I got 100mb on 802.11N previously so this isn't an upgrade in terms of technology but they don't see this as an issue as 360mb works over ethernet.

Wifi is just a free addon, you're paying for wired service. The fact is you probably paid upwards of €150 for a decent AC unit, VM are probably paying less than €40/unit. Price difference isnt all from buying in bulk, corners will be cut.

gabbo is coming

ED E wrote: »

Wifi is just a free addon, you're paying for wired service. The fact is you probably paid upwards of €150 for a decent AC unit, VM are probably paying less than €40/unit. Price difference isnt all from buying in bulk, corners will be cut.

Is the archer c8 the best bang for buck?

dionsiseire

ED E wrote: »

Wifi is just a free addon, you're paying for wired service. The fact is you probably paid upwards of €150 for a decent AC unit, VM are probably paying less than €40/unit. Price difference isnt all from buying in bulk, corners will be cut.

€60.... nowhere near 150. It's a basic AC router and is outperforming their supplied crap. No reason it should be as bad as it is. 100mb is 802.11N speeds

VeVeX

dionsiseire wrote: »

100mb is 802.11N speeds

This is my 802.11N result -

gabbo is coming

Ok this is driving me nuts now

Wifi signal is there but cannot connect to it. Says passwords is incorrect. Reboot, all fine. Android and apple devices reconnect.

About 24 hours later, same thing again. And on and on. What is with this router?

gabbo is coming

gabbo is coming wrote: »

Ok this is driving me nuts now

Wifi signal is there but cannot connect to it. Says passwords is incorrect. Reboot, all fine. Android and apple devices reconnect.

About 24 hours later, same thing again. And on and on. What is with this router?

Looks like the only good thing about this router is that you can bridge it! Recently upgraded my AVM FritzBox to the 7490 so I have the Compal bridged once again.