What to do next year?

Pmaldini

I have been doing Tri's now for 6+ years and finished this season last Saturday with my 2nd Ironman. i love training but as of from now my spare time is going to be really cut as my eldest daughter (11) is now in the cadet swimming squad so her swimming has gone from 1-2 days a weeks to 4-5 days a week, my other 2 smallies who are (8 & 5) are getting involved more and more in sport and various activities so i really wont have the time for IM training for the foreseeable future.
i am looking for a few ideas on what to do other than triathlons next year, i know i can tip away training and do a few sprints, oly's or even a Half but i'd like to try something else

i think i am in the "been there done that" feeling with Tri's at the moment and would maybe like a change

any suggestions good or bad will greatfully be accepted

pgibbo

Try some cyclocross or cross country running over the winter.

Does OW swimming appeal to you? Lots of OW races for the summer months.

If you're having a real crisis you could try White Collar MMA or White Collar Boxing :pac:

MojoMaker

I have to say the sheer diversity of adventure racing has piqued my interest recently and it looks like there are some good long term goals to crack there.

mossym

if after an easier life could give adventure racing a go.


dare i say swim run? there is a race in the UK, there may be one here.

tunney

Pmaldini wrote: »

I have been doing Tri's now for 6+ years and finished this season last Saturday with my 2nd Ironman. i love training but as of from now my spare time is going to be really cut as my eldest daughter (11) is now in the cadet swimming squad so her swimming has gone from 1-2 days a weeks to 4-5 days a week, my other 2 smallies who are (8 & 5) are getting involved more and more in sport and various activities so i really wont have the time for IM training for the foreseeable future.
i am looking for a few ideas on what to do other than triathlons next year, i know i can tip away training and do a few sprints, oly's or even a Half but i'd like to try something else

i think i am in the "been there done that" feeling with Tri's at the moment and would maybe like a change

any suggestions good or bad will greatfully be accepted

What are you pbs in:
Sprint
Oly
5km
10km

Pmaldini

pgibbo wrote: »

Try some cyclocross or cross country running over the winter.

Does OW swimming appeal to you? Lots of OW races for the summer months.

If you're having a real crisis you could try White Collar MMA or White Collar Boxing :pac:

i like the idea of the 1st 2 Paul but FFS you have seen the size of me, i'd be murdered in MMA:D

Pmaldini

MojoMaker wrote: »

I have to say the sheer diversity of adventure racing has piqued my interest recently and it looks like there are some good long term goals to crack there.

adventure racing definitely appeals to me MM but i'd imagine it takes up a huge amount of time, which unfortunately i wont have next year

sconhome

mossym wrote: »

if after an easier life could give adventure racing a go.

Funny to look at :P

mossym wrote: »

dare i say swim run? there is a race in the UK, there will be one here.

Pmaldini wrote: »

adventure racing definitely appeals to me MM but i'd imagine it takes up a huge amount of time, which unfortunately i wont have next year

I was surprised how much more forgiving and balanced the training could be.

Pmaldini

tunney wrote: »

What are you pbs in:
Sprint
Oly
5km
10km

i would be in the captain slow category,

Sprint - 1.11
Oly - 2.28
5k - 19.55
10k - 43.15

Pmaldini

AKW wrote: »

Funny to look at :P





I was surprised how much more forgiving and balanced the training could be.

what kind of hours would you be doing AKW? i know Shotgun trains like an olympian but can it be done on limited time?

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

I reckon bike racing would suit you Paul, you have come a long way in one season on the bike and i think there is potential there to tap into on a sole bike focus.

Having switched from tri to bike racing for a year i can say its a refreshing change, you can also get super strong on 8hrs bike training a week and knowing how busy you are with the business.

tunney

Rayna Jealous Birthday wrote: »

I reckon bike racing would suit you Paul, you have come a long way in one season on the bike and i think there is potential there to tap into on a sole bike focus.

Having switched from tri to bike racing for a year i can say its a refreshing change, you can also get super strong on 8hrs bike training a week and knowing how busy you are with the business.

Did you come back to tri recently?

Being honest don't A4 and A3 bike racers in Ireland, for the most part, *completely* delude themselves as to their strength on the bike?

RJM85

tunney wrote: »

Did you come back to tri recently?

Being honest don't A4 and A3 bike racers in Ireland, for the most part, *completely* delude themselves as to their strength on the bike?

In my experience, yeah. With a bunch of very strong Juniors winning half the A3 races there's a tendency for *relatively* strong A3 riders (say, front of MOP) to underestimate the step up required to get to A2. There's also a tendency to think 'Oh I rode around in the bunch all day in an A3 race, I must be pretty decent' - there's a huge difference between rolling around in the bunch in a relatively flat race and actually making the moves let alone making a move stick.

That said, I'm sure JB is right - an intelligent single sport focus on 8-10 hrs a week could get someone to a decent level and might be very enjoyable vs tri on a limited time budget.

sconhome

Pmaldini wrote: »

what kind of hours would you be doing AKW? i know Shotgun trains like an olympian but can it be done on limited time?

Fits and bursts.

Most of my training is about maintaining fitness. Mostly what I have been doing last winter was running with bike commuting for good measure. We did long sessions as a team on the bike and long hiking events. Far less pressure (last year) to do 3/4 hours bikes every week. It will be different for 2016 as there is a big goal there.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

tunney wrote: »

Did you come back to tri recently?

Being honest don't A4 and A3 bike racers in Ireland, for the most part, *completely* delude themselves as to their strength on the bike?

Only as a quick hello, i will still be bike racing:)

A4 - most are not strong, its pretty weak.
A3 - 10-20% are strong, the rest roll around.
A2 - Ok getting half decent here.
A1 - if you got the points to A1 you deserve to be classed a "good rider"

pgibbo

You could also look at nailing your run for when you decide to return to IM when the kids are a bit older. 8 to 10 hours of running a week would have you in fine fettle. Plus, of the 3, running can be squeezed in the easiest and requires least kit or overheads.

You could always keep splashing and cycling for fun when time permits.

bryangiggsy

Commiting to 8-10 hrs a week ..you are still talking about 5-6 sessions. If looking to opening up your nights or getting up at a normal hour....then i really dont see much of a difference..considering i do 3 swims sessions a week including 2 at lunch.

Pmaldini

Rayna Jealous Birthday wrote: »

I reckon bike racing would suit you Paul, you have come a long way in one season on the bike and i think there is potential there to tap into on a sole bike focus.

Having switched from tri to bike racing for a year i can say its a refreshing change, you can also get super strong on 8hrs bike training a week and knowing how busy you are with the business.

i know a good few lads bike racing, i think thursday league races might suit from next may on but i dont think i'd have the time to commit to weekend racing, the lads seem to be away at some race or another all summer. and with the amount of swimming Rose is doing i see myself getting plenty of running done while waiting for her, no point in trying to get a swim in at that time as the lane they leave open for the public is full of dead people!!

on a personal note i'd like to thank you publicly for all the help this year, i asked a question about turbo training on the forum when i was injured with a fractured ankle last year (happened on the boards ballyhoura cycle) and you came back with a few suggestions, i dont know how you did it but you hoodwinked me into becoming my coach, you have transformed my cycling and if it wasnt for another leg injury i think we would have gone very well in the IM marathon, we both work ridiculous hours and yet you still have time to work around my time, thanks again Fran, it is very much appreciated

Pmaldini

pgibbo wrote: »

You could also look at nailing your run for when you decide to return to IM when the kids are a bit older. 8 to 10 hours of running a week would have you in fine fettle. Plus, of the 3, running can be squeezed in the easiest and requires least kit or overheads.

You could always keep splashing and cycling for fun when time permits.

are you saying my running is sh!t? you would be right of course:D, i have it in my head i'd like to try some trail running possibly, roads can be very boring sometimes and hard on the calves..

johnruns

Pmaldini wrote: »

are you saying my running is sh!t? you would be right of course:D, i have it in my head i'd like to try some trail running possibly, roads can be very boring sometimes and hard on the calves..

Irish Mountain Running Assoc.run some great trail and mountain running leagues during the spring and summer a lot of adventure racers also compete in these,a very friendly vibe at the races and the mountains are a great place to bring the kids after that you could finish off the season with the Dublin marathon.

BennyMul

have you considered alcohol or heading back to the golf course.

you made savage gain on the bike this year (majorly impressed must have a good coach:)),
Have you considered long distance running,
or look to set a few pb's on sorted distance.

tunney

Pmaldini wrote: »

i would be in the captain slow category,

Sprint - 1.11
Oly - 2.28
5k - 19.55
10k - 43.15

Missed this.

That 10k is weak. Get that four minutes down. That would keep you busy for the year.

griffin100

Can you get any runs in when your little one is in her swim session? I try and get a good run in on a Saturday morning when my guys are doing their 2hr session at stupid o'clock and I'm waiting on them to finish. It's a 'free' longish run.

Running 8-10hrs a week will get you to a decent level if used wisely, you could do one of the advanced P&D plans and aim for marathon PB and easily get a 10km and HM PB along the way.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

If you can get that long term injury sorted you can certainly take chunks off those run times.

Dory Dory

Ballroom dancing? Bowling? Swimnastics? Curling?

More importantly....how did you do in your IM?? And where is your report????

tunney

Dory Dory wrote: »

Ballroom dancing? Bowling? Swimnastics? Curling?

More importantly....how did you do in your IM?? And where is your report????

And what's the long term injury?

kal7

OW swim.

swim bay clare to galway 13km.

Gaelforce.

Unless injury in shoulder.

bryangiggsy

My retirement will comprise weekly of

2 conditioning classes
1 yoga class
And a game of golf or Sunday coffeee and scone ride
I cant wait.

tunney

bryangiggsy wrote: »

My retirement will comprise weekly of

2 conditioning classes
1 yoga class
And a game of golf or Sunday coffeee and scone ride
I cant wait.

You don't really like swim/bike/run do you?

mossym

can ye start the gear fire sales so?

bryangiggsy

mossym wrote: »

can ye start the gear fire sales so?

No i have to conquer the Lost sheep before that happens

bryangiggsy

tunney wrote: »

You don't really like swim/bike/run do you?

1 more year

tunney

mossym wrote: »

can ye start the gear fire sales so?

Won't be the only one around here soon unfortunately

rooneyjm

http://bhaa.ie/

The bhaa cross country is starting mid October, first one is in Castleknock. Nice little timed races with good spread after.

Pmaldini

johnruns wrote: »

Irish Mountain Running Assoc.run some great trail and mountain running leagues during the spring and summer a lot of adventure racers also compete in these,a very friendly vibe at the races and the mountains are a great place to bring the kids after that you could finish off the season with the Dublin marathon.

i will definitely look into this johnruns, thank you

Pmaldini

BennyMul wrote: »

have you considered alcohol or heading back to the golf course.

you made savage gain on the bike this year (majorly impressed must have a good coach:)),
Have you considered long distance running,
or look to set a few pb's on sorted distance.

i am enjoying my alcohol consumption since last saturday and will keep enjoying it through the next month of rugby, as for the golf, i might try it again, its been a while so it could be bad!!

you are right about the good coach but i also cycled with a fat fella who made me work hard to keep the intervals honest:D

if i can get the foot right i would like to get into trail running or try for some decent marathon times, i'm not that interested in the shorter fast stuff, i'll leave that to the younger guys and gals on here!

Pmaldini

tunney wrote: »

Missed this.

That 10k is weak. Get that four minutes down. That would keep you busy for the year.[/QUOTE

yes weak, but in my defence Mr T it was in a tri,(still slow but yada, yada) cant remember the last time i did stand alone 10k, i'd like to think i could run well under 40mins if trained properly but as mentioned to Bennymul i am more drawn to the longer stuff.

the injury is plantar fasciitis in my right foot, i manage it pretty well but it does flair up from time to time and can be very painful.

the problem i had before IM this year wasnt the Plantar it was a small tear in the flexor hallucis longus in my calf, only started easy running again about 4 weeks out from race.

tunney

Pmaldini wrote: »

tunney wrote: »

Missed this.

That 10k is weak. Get that four minutes down. That would keep you busy for the year.

yes weak, but in my defence Mr T it was in a tri,(still slow but yada, yada) cant remember the last time i did stand alone 10k, i'd like to think i could run well under 40mins if trained properly but as mentioned to Bennymul i am more drawn to the longer stuff.

the injury is plantar fasciitis in my right foot, i manage it pretty well but it does flair up from time to time and can be very painful.

the problem i had before IM this year wasnt the Plantar it was a small tear in the flexor hallucis longus in my calf, only started easy running again about 4 weeks out from race.

How do you sleep? On your belly or on your back?

Pmaldini

tunney wrote: »

How do you sleep? On your belly or on your back?

are you looking for a date??

only kidding, generally on my side or back, why?

tunney

Pmaldini wrote: »

are you looking for a date??

only kidding, generally on my side or back, why?

Sleeping on your belly tends to result in your ankle being being fully flexed, this results in tight/spasmed calves and can be a contributing factor to PF.

Many suffers sleep in a rigid L shaped boot to prevent this from happening.

Pmaldini

tunney wrote: »

Sleeping on your belly tends to result in your ankle being being fully flexed, this results in tight/spasmed calves and can be a contributing factor to PF.

Many suffers sleep in a rigid L shaped boot to prevent this from happening.

i have the boot, use it when it gets very bad, they are not very comfortable but they work

Pmaldini

griffin100 wrote: »

Can you get any runs in when your little one is in her swim session? I try and get a good run in on a Saturday morning when my guys are doing their 2hr session at stupid o'clock and I'm waiting on them to finish. It's a 'free' longish run.

Running 8-10hrs a week will get you to a decent level if used wisely, you could do one of the advanced P&D plans and aim for marathon PB and easily get a 10km and HM PB along the way.

i was looking at that, it gives a few free hours every week to get some decent running done

Pmaldini

Dory Dory wrote: »

Ballroom dancing? Bowling? Swimnastics? Curling?

More importantly....how did you do in your IM?? And where is your report????

i might try them all DD

IM went great, got beaten up in swim, got beaten up on the bike and got beaten up on the run but sure isnt that what its all about!! and best of all i beat last year by 42 mins:)
i will go into more detail on my various beatings in the report to follow soon...

Pmaldini

bryangiggsy wrote: »

My retirement will comprise weekly of

2 conditioning classes
1 yoga class
And a game of golf or Sunday coffeee and scone ride
I cant wait.

that sounds like a nice plan bryangiggsy, i might build some if not all into the equation

Pmaldini

mossym wrote: »

can ye start the gear fire sales so?

funny you say this Moss,

my good wife said to me on Monday after i came home from Holland "i have all your gear washed hun" i said "jeez thanks babe but i won't need them for a few days, fair play to you" her reply was "they are all going on donedeal!!!"

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

Pmaldini wrote: »

i might try them all DD

IM went great, got beaten up in swim, got beaten up on the bike and got beaten up on the run but sure isnt that what its all about!! and best of all i beat last year by 42 mins:)
i will go into more detail on my various beatings in the report to follow soon...

It would have been much more if we could have had you running without problems. I am in the same camp as you know, becoming a professional beer/wine taster with end of season

Pmaldini

Rayna Jealous Birthday wrote: »

It would have been much more if we could have had you running without problems. I am in the same camp as you know, becoming a professional beer/wine taster with end of season

as long as the wine is red and from the Bordeaux region of France i'll join your party:D

mossym

one option, not race, but for something different that i'm considering. hill running group on a wednesday night for the winter. they alternate between ballycuggeran (killaloe), tountinna(killaloe/ballina) and keeper(you know where that is ). head torch off road running. Going to do it myself this year once i discuss with coach. but i used run at lunctimes on a wednesday which doesn't really work anymore so this would work.

something different, easier on the legs, and anything with a headtorch is badass

Pmaldini

mossym wrote: »

one option, not race, but for something different that i'm considering. hill running group on a wednesday night for the winter. they alternate between ballycuggeran (killaloe), tountinna(killaloe/ballina) and keeper(you know where that is ). head torch off road running. Going to do it myself this year once i discuss with coach. but i used run at lunctimes on a wednesday which doesn't really work anymore so this would work.

something different, easier on the legs, and anything with a headtorch is badass

that sounds brilliant Mossy, i would be well up for that, keep me posted as to when it starts

mossym

Pmaldini wrote: »

that sounds brilliant Mossy, i would be well up for that, keep me posted as to when it starts

never stops, during the summer it turns into IMRA midweek summer league. so they are going year round. there is a google group you sign up to get the weekly organising email, will find the link for you

sconhome

Pmaldini wrote: »

that sounds brilliant Mossy, i would be well up for that, keep me posted as to when it starts

Nice one Mossy, P you'll need new shoes and a decent headlamp