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La Vuelta a España - Stage 9 - Torrevieja to Llorenca *SPOILERS*

  • 29-08-2015 11:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭


    vuelta_stage9.JPG

    First really tactically significant day for the GC riders. A long, likely fireworks-free opening 126km is suddenly punched with a steep, tough Cat 2 mountain, averaging a painful 8.9% with sections approaching 20%. The riders then go on a relative reprieve with a 35km loop around to another local climb, an even more testing Cat 1 mountain with an agonizing 26% maximum gradient.

    The favourites for the stage win are more of the same, despite the change in terrain. Valverde, Rodriguez, Chaves, Roche, all likely to feature well. I would also suspect another big dig from Aru to see how much time is to be gotten out of Froome, who as yet does not show form good enough to win this Vuelta.

    Betting: Rodriguez 4/1, Chaves 9/2, Valverde 5/1, Moreno 7/1, Aru 9/1, Roche 18/1

    Stage Winner 16 votes

    Joaquin Rodriguez
    0%
    Alejandro Valverde
    18%
    MorrisseeeePudsy33Doc07 3 votes
    Dani Moreno
    12%
    Inquitusfunnights74 2 votes
    Nicolas Roche
    6%
    letape 1 vote
    Esteban Chaves
    6%
    Arrow in the Knee 1 vote
    Nairo Quintana
    12%
    Cee-Jay-CeeTrev De rev 2 votes
    Fabio Aru
    12%
    BlowfishSolobally8 2 votes
    Rafal Majka
    12%
    DarkglassesWinnyThePoo 2 votes
    Chris Froome
    0%
    Domenico Pozzovivo
    18%
    steclearyBeastyg0g 3 votes
    Louis Meintjes
    0%
    Mikel Landa
    0%
    Sergio Henao
    0%
    The Field
    0%
    Carlton Kirby's shrieking
    0%


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭pats22b


    26%!!! how can they go up that in a straight line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Its hard to see past Chaves for the win today given how well he has been riding and without Dan Martin he looks fastest on steep climbs

    26% will suit the small guys like Chaves & Purito too and hinder the bigger guys like Nico


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Peter Sagan has abandoned the Vuelta

    (BTW and not complaining but Dumoulin not in pole)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    Alejandro Valverde
    My Velogames jinx has hit again, unbelievable, I don't think I've any riders left :o:(:mad:

    As for Sagan !

    imagegallery-7095-55e1e60b10635.jpg


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    My Velogames jinx has hit again, unbelievable, I don't think I've any riders left :o:(:mad:

    As for Sagan !

    imagegallery-7095-55e1e60b10635.jpg

    Is that from the bike that hit him?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    Alejandro Valverde
    godtabh wrote: »
    Is that from the bike that hit him?

    I think the bike that hit him is in front there, the blue Shimano motobike, what a clown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Melodeon


    Thanks to Darkglasses for the preview!
    I was neither in a position or a fit condition to do one yesterday evening :D

    Here's the VeloViewer data on the final climb (as kindly supplied by Inquitus):
    360535.jpg
    360532.jpg


    I took the opportunity a few days ago to bet the children's inheritance on Dan Martin and Peter Sagan for this one, so I have high hopes for today :)


    Right, I'm off to spend the rest of the morning drinking strong coffee and watching yesterday's stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    Alejandro Valverde
    Melodeon wrote: »

    Right, I'm off to spend the rest of the morning drinking tripple distilled extra strength poitin and watching yesterday's stage.
    I took the opportunity a few days ago to bet the children's inheritance on Dan Martin and Peter Sagan for this one, so I have high hopes for today :)

    FYP :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Thinking here that today will be another day watching Nico shine! If Froome is going to pull back more time, then guaranteed to have Great team-work from Nico again,

    Here's Hoping,
    kerry4sam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,836 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Alejandro Valverde
    Sky will give Roche every shot at staying up there, but the pessimist in ne thinks this will be ther first day we start to see cracks :( that said, i think Froome will crack too. Purito to win and Chaves to keep red.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Dani Moreno
    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    Sky will give Roche every shot at staying up there, but the pessimist in ne thinks this will be ther first day we start to see cracks :( that said, i think Froome will crack too. Purito to win and Chaves to keep red.

    Not Roches territory, if he can do what he did on the previous short, sharp finished and get out in front, he may be able to maintain his GC position, defo the potential to ship a few seconds though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    Greg Henderson from a breakaway. Love that rider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    Parked in front of a fire hydrant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭REBELSAFC



    With his history of crashes I wouldn't be handing him the keys ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Rafal Majka
    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Peter Sagan has abandoned the Vuelta

    (BTW and not complaining but Dumoulin not in pole)

    The Field, or pm me the list of riders you want beforehand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭mirrormatrix


    Crash already? Landa, Valverde, Aru, Dumolin all down. Doesn't appear to be anything major but Valverde went off to the med car for a bit I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    The Field, or pm me the list of riders you want beforehand.


    Not complaining ...just saying :D

    Think Dumoulin could power up that climb...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Dani Moreno
    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Not complaining ...just saying :D

    Think Dumoulin could power up that climb...

    Not sure MPFG, too steep for him, we are firmly in Purito (and Dan :( ) territory here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Not sure MPFG, too steep for him, we are firmly in Purito (and Dan :( ) territory here.

    I hope you are right :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    At long last Nico admits to thinking about the GC ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    There should be a drinking game where you drink every time Sean says "yes" :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Dani Moreno
    Brute of a climb, and the final time it hangs a left and gives 500m extra of super steep.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    At long last Nico admits to thinking about the GC ...

    Where?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Dani Moreno
    godtabh wrote: »
    Where?

    Confessional this morning with Father MPFG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Confessional this morning with Father MPFG

    Ye are not listening to Carlton closely enough :rolleyes:
    Minus brownie points for you lot

    Seemingly according to Carlton that Nico said at the start today when asked
    (and I paraphrase) that given his position in 3rd that he would be lying if he wasn't thinking of GC and promptly got on his bike and rode away quickly ..must be quickly away from Carlton :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Dani Moreno
    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Ye are not listening to Carlton closely enough :rolleyes:
    Minus brownie points for you lot

    Seemingly according to Carlton that Nico said at the start today when asked
    (and I paraphrase) that given his position in 3rd that he would be lying if he wasn't thinking of GC and promptly got on his bike and rode away quickly ..must be quickly away from Carlton :D

    He was asked if he was considering GC and smiled and rode off without answering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    That is not what Kirby said ...unless I need my ears syringed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Dani Moreno
    MPFGLB wrote: »
    That is not what Kirby said ...unless I need my ears syringed

    I know a good doctor ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭letape


    Nicolas Roche
    Anything interesting happening on the stage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Dani Moreno
    letape wrote: »
    Anything interesting happening on the stage?

    Not much, the break looks doomed, the final climb is an absolute brute, 3.7km @ 10.2% average with some super steep ramps, it should be some show, 22.4km to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Just thinking on the train there that OGE have no mountain dons next week for Chaves and none for the Yates twins next year

    They badly need them and it could be a great team for Philip Deignan. They could do with a rider like him now


    Trek & TCS are looking for good mountain doms....they must be hard to come by


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭letape


    Nicolas Roche
    Inquitus wrote: »
    Not much, the break looks doomed, the final climb is an absolute brute, 3.7km @ 10.2% average with some super steep ramps, it should be some show, 22.4km to go.

    Thanks - I'll be home to watch the end of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Nairo Quintana
    pats22b wrote: »
    26%!!! how can they go up that in a straight line.

    I'd imagine it'd be quicker to get off the bike and run/walk with it but that's sacrilege in cycling circles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Chaves has ridden the final climbs many times in training...oh well he must be a shoe in


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Dani Moreno
    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Just thinking on the train there that OGE have no mountain dons next week for Chaves and none for the Yates twins next year

    They badly need them and it could be a great team for Philip Deignan. They could do with a rider like him now


    Trek & TCS are looking for good mountain doms....they must be hard to come by

    Chaves will be brutally exposed next week, with a stronger team he may have had a chance, he's just going to get killed by Astana / Movistar / Katousha attack and counter attack. Stage 11 will be the end of him imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Chaves will be brutally exposed next week, with a stronger team he may have had a chance, he's just going to get killed by Astana / Movistar / Katousha attack and counter attack. Stage 11 will be the end of him imo.

    SKY have the strongest team with 4 high in GC and Boswell/Thomas/Kiri to help earlier...They can if organised cause the greatest problems to a competitor


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Roche trying to bridge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Dani Moreno
    This is great stuff and good call MPFG on dumoulin


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Is Roche gone? Keep flipping to the football


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    godtabh wrote: »
    Is Roche gone? Keep flipping to the football

    Still there


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    godtabh wrote: »
    Still there

    Roche for second gc?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Some win by Tom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    The day Darkglasses left Chaves off his pole Chaves won the stage
    Today it was Dumoulin

    I thought he could do it alright

    Looks like Froome is back ...sh**


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    I thought that was an impressive piece of riding by froome


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    Alejandro Valverde
    Great climb, great finish and the result in the melting pot until the last few meters :)

    Great heart and power by Dumoulin, savage watts needed there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭keoclassic


    godtabh wrote: »
    I'm happy with his win. Hopefully he will be in a couple of years time[/quote

    Hard to believe that finish !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Nico down to 4th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Another co incidence

    The rider who came second on stage 2 of the 2013 Vuelta won stage 9 and went into red
    The rider who came second in stage 2 of 2015 Vuelta won stage 9 and went into red

    In 2013 it was lost in next mountain stage for the rest of the race


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    I thought that was an impressive piece of riding by froome

    But we know he can do that ...yo yo thing

    He will come out now on the day after the rest day ...stage 11 and tear up the last 2km and take the lead

    And wrap it up on the ITT

    I didn't think Valverde or Quintana had answer
    But it could be just the shock of that climb and how hard it was

    Nico did a great job to come in 8th...not his type of climb at all....


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