Gang demands protection money in Dublin 12

Locomotion

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/pay-up-or-well-steal-your-car-terrified-families-hit-by-gang-car-scam-31484704.html

"Despite his relatively young age, the thug has several convictions for offences including drugs for sale and supply and assault causing harm."

So the Gardai clearly know who he is, he has prior convictions and there's nothing they can do??

VinLieger

Bit of vigilantism is whats required here, gardai are either too lazy, under resourced or restricted by the ridiculous rights of criminals so its unfortunately up to the local people to step up. Couple of mass beatings these knacks will learn their lessons. Also in previous reports it was reported these are young kids age 12-17 so the useless parents should have similar behaviour brought upon them until they begin dealing with their spawn

traprunner

Can we neuter these youngsters before they procreate?

Mesrine65

VinLieger wrote: »

Bit of vigilantism is whats required here, gardai are either too lazy, under resourced or restricted by the ridiculous rights of criminals so its unfortunately up to the local people to step up. Couple of mass beatings these knacks will learn their lessons. Also in previous reports it was reported these are young kids age 12-17 so the useless parents should have similar behaviour brought upon them until they begin dealing with their spawn

Now, now VinLieger, one cannot condone a violent, reactionary response the likes of which you are suggesting...

I do however concur

frostyjacks

People give out about the old days, but we didn't have this sort of lawlessness. There was respect and common courtesy. Country has gone down the toilet recently. God knows what it'll be like in a few years from now.

endacl

frostyjacks wrote: »

God knows what it'll be like in a few years from now.

Same as it was a few years ago. Be grand.

kupus

endacl wrote: »

Same as it was a few years ago. Be grand.

No it won't it'll be worse, every consecutive generation of scummer is getting worse.
They breed more. so more prison places needed more services needed. And your sons and daughters will be effected by this wether you like it or not.

Get your heads out of the sand for once in your closeted pampered lives. And look around at the state of the country.

fepper

Well said

frostyjacks

This is where the laundries came in handy. Little scumbags like this would have been put up for adoption or sent to an orphanage and taught manners, instead of being allowed to grow up in dysfunctional environments. Progressive country me hole, we're going backwards.

RichardCeann

frostyjacks wrote:

People give out about the old days, but we didn't have this sort of lawlessness. There was respect and common courtesy. Country has gone down the toilet recently. God knows what it'll be like in a few years from now.

This craic has been going on around Croker for decades. Culchies coming up for the game and local 'youths' asking for a tenner to mind their car.

'Here, mister. Gis a tenner to mind your car'.

'Go way out of that. Shure, I've the dog in there to mind it for me'.

'Yeah, can he put out fires, can he?'

Menas

€50 a day is a bit steep. Used to be a lot less....

frozenfrozen

wait until they realise how great heroin is

JustTheOne

When you reward these people with houses and money for each kid they have they just keep on creating more devil spawn.

lanos

Menas wrote: »

€50 a day is a bit steep. Used to be a lot less....

the story does not add up
who can afford €50 per day....nobody
it would be cheaper to keep your car in a lock-up and use taxis
you need to keep the demand low enough that everybody can pay

even criminals know this much

another fake story i think

ryaner777

This is a ploy by Fianna Fail to scare the local community into thinking crime is much worse in their area than it actually is.

Coming into an election next year it's the only thing they can use to try and differentiate themselves from FG/Lab.

Fianna Fail = Anti Crime

Posters have been up in local areas of Dublin for the last number of months

https://www.fiannafail.ie/ff-to-hold-series-of-public-meetings-on-crime-in-dublin/

You'll see a lot more scary crime stories in the press soon all reported by concerned FF councilors or candidates.

It's sad that they've resorted to this to get their constituents to vote for them.

Zebra3

frostyjacks wrote: »

People give out about the old days, but we didn't have this sort of lawlessness. There was respect and common courtesy. Country has gone down the toilet recently. God knows what it'll be like in a few years from now.

The old days when priests raped kids and politicians openly lived way beyond their means?

Locomotion

Zebra3 wrote: »

The old days when priests raped kids and politicians openly lived way beyond their means?

Well this thread just took an expected turn off topic...

masti123

RAAD might need to make a return, the Gardai clearly don't care or can't do anything

Idbatterim

they will have over a billion to give away in the upcoming budget, yet you hear about endless law and order issues, HSE, nursing homes, homeless etc. They can gladly stick their few euro bribe and put it into these areas as far as I am concerned. We have major problems when everything is measured in how much is in my pocket, as a society IMO.

Build far more prisons and get these scum off the street. The reason they dont go to jail is, because there are so few prison spaces, you literally have to murder to get locked away. The gardai and courts would probably award appropriate sentences and get them off the streets, if they actually could...

Polo_Mint

Next weeks news

"Crumlin Kids named and shamed "

Followed by :

"My Kid is not a scummer, He now fears for his life "

And No1 in the top ten excuses :

" Kids will be Kids "

suicide_circus

Heavy sack beatings

Tiger Mcilroy

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Next weeks news

"Crumlin Kids named and shamed "

Followed by :

"My Kid is not a scummer, He now fears for his life "

And No1 in the top ten excuses :

" Kids will be Kids "

"my johnny is an angel and is so respectful when i see him for five minutes a day before he heads out till around 1 in the morning not causing any bother"

KatW4

This just disgusts me. Is nothing safe anymore? Why should some people act like absolute idiots and hurt other people when the rest of us try hard to live like law abiding citizens.

It's not often that a news story makes me angry but this has my blood boiling!

frostyjacks

Zebra3 wrote: »

The old days when priests raped kids and politicians openly lived way beyond their means?

No, the old days where children weren't allowed to grow up in broken homes. Where unfit mothers were looked after, and their children given a better chance in life. The old days where people respected law and order. It's pure anarchy now; anything goes.

end of the road

VinLieger wrote: »

Bit of vigilantism is whats required here, gardai are either too lazy, under resourced or restricted by the ridiculous rights of criminals so its unfortunately up to the local people to step up.

yes, scum should deal with scum so they can take over the trade? great idea. the gards are not lazy, they have to follow the law. those who want to break the law to get others to follow the law or because others don't follow the law have no argument

VinLieger wrote: »

Couple of mass beatings these knacks will learn their lessons.

wrong, rubbish

VinLieger wrote: »

Also in previous reports it was reported these are young kids age 12-17 so the useless parents should have similar behaviour brought upon them until they begin dealing with their spawn

any attempt to do such nonsense should mean the army brought in to deal with these vigilante vermin who are a threat to the state.

kylith

suicide_circus wrote: »

Heavy sack beatings

'The kiss of an ash plant' as my dad would say.



That's a smack in the face with a hurley, for anyone who doesn't speak Dad.

GarIT

frostyjacks wrote: »

No, the old days where children weren't allowed to grow up in broken homes. Where unfit mothers were looked after, and their children given a better chance in life. The old days where people respected law and order. It's pure anarchy now; anything goes.

What do you mean by broken homes? How would you define an unfit mother?

kylith

frostyjacks wrote: »

No, the old days where children weren't allowed to grow up in broken homes. Where unfit mothers were looked after, and their children given a better chance in life. The old days where people respected law and order. It's pure anarchy now; anything goes.

Do you have any idea what actually went on in the laundries?

They weren't 'allowed to grow up in broken homes' because they were reared like battery chickens.

end of the road

Zebra3 wrote: »

The old days when priests raped kids and politicians openly lived way beyond their means?

well, he thinks the laundries were good things so are you surprised?

Zebra3

frostyjacks wrote: »

No, the old days where children weren't allowed to grow up in broken homes. Where unfit mothers were looked after, and their children given a better chance in life. The old days where people respected law and order. It's pure anarchy now; anything goes.

It's the same old days.

Kids hauled off to slave labour camps, along with single mothers.

There's never been some golden age of respect for law and order. :rolleyes:

end of the road

masti123 wrote: »

RAAD might need to make a return, the Gardai clearly don't care or can't do anything

no, those bunch of deluded failures can stay in the past.

end of the road

frostyjacks wrote: »

No, the old days where children weren't allowed to grow up in broken homes. Where unfit mothers were looked after, and their children given a better chance in life. The old days where people respected law and order. It's pure anarchy now; anything goes.

yes, the good old days where "unfit mothers" were imprisoned against their will, beaten, enslaved, had their children stolen against their will, to be sold off for proffit. great days indeed.

Menas

frostyjacks wrote: »

No, the old days where children weren't allowed to grow up in broken homes. Where unfit mothers were looked after, and their children given a better chance in life. The old days where people respected law and order. It's pure anarchy now; anything goes.

Friend of mine's mum was sent to a Magdalene laundry in the 50s when she was 4.... as her widowed father was deemed unfit to look after her. From crumlin ironically.

She ended up spending her life there and having 3 kids while in the laundry - raped by men visitors. Her kids were forcebly taken from the mother and adopted out while she died in the laundry from a life of inhaling the chemicals she worked with. She was so institutionalised by the time she died she was not capable of life outside the laundry.


Yeah- great system, totally fair.

frostyjacks

GarIT wrote: »

What do you mean by broken homes? How would you define an unfit mother?

A home without a loving, stable, parental unit to raise kids. An unfit mother is one who brings children up in that environment.

Mr. CooL ICE

frostyjacks wrote: »

No, the old days where children weren't allowed to grow up in broken homes. Where unfit mothers were looked after, and their children given a better chance in life. The old days where people respected law and order. It's pure anarchy now; anything goes.

You sound like an elderly priest

JustTheOne

end of the road wrote: »

no, those bunch of deluded failures can stay in the past.

AAD maybe?

Few ex provos with experience.

SEPT 23 1989

A fifty a day opening demand reeks of amateurism

steddyeddy

frostyjacks wrote: »

This is where the laundries came in handy. Little scumbags like this would have been put up for adoption or sent to an orphanage and taught manners, instead of being allowed to grow up in dysfunctional environments. Progressive country me hole, we're going backwards.

That's a really scummy thing to say considering the history of the laundries in this country.

Dr. Zaius Dr. Zaius!

I for one am all for vigilantism.

Group of accountants by day, snipers by night, take out all the scummers one by one.
Eventually eliminating all of them.
Might free up some houses for people who actually want to contribute to society.

GarIT

frostyjacks wrote: »

A home without a loving, stable, parental unit to raise kids. An unfit mother is one who brings children up in that environment.

I was going to argue with you until I saw your post history.

Links234

Kinda hope Frostyjacks is a parody account, but considering the sort of claptrap that's being posted on AH lately, someone saying bring back the laundries doesn't surprise me.

SEPT 23 1989

frostyjacks wrote: »

No, the old days where children weren't allowed to grow up in broken homes. Where unfit mothers were looked after, and their children given a better chance in life. The old days where people respected law and order. It's pure anarchy now; anything goes.

yes and young lads from disadvantaged areas were send down to "homes" down the country to be "reformed"

The General was one of them

frostyjacks

Links234 wrote: »

Kinda hope Frostyjacks is a parody account, but considering the sort of claptrap that's being posted on AH lately, someone saying bring back the laundries doesn't surprise me.

I'm not saying bring back the laundries, I'm saying the antisocial behaviour we have today didn't happen in the old days.

kylith

frostyjacks wrote: »

I'm not saying bring back the laundries, I'm saying the antisocial behaviour we have today didn't happen in the old days.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yes. Yes it did. You just didn't hear about it as much.

TwoShedsJackson

frostyjacks wrote: »

I'm not saying bring back the laundries, I'm saying the antisocial behaviour we have today didn't happen in the old days.

People are always banging on about how this didn't happen in the old days. It did, you just never heard about it.

What didn't happen is that someone could post about it on the internet, allowing you to hear about it almost instantly. The internet and social media does little but ramp up this sort of crime hysteria and then we get all this 'string 'em up, it's the only language they understand!!' crap.

How far back in to 'the old days' do we have to go to where this didn't happen, at all, ever? When exactly was this fabled paradise?

wnolan1992

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Next weeks news

"Crumlin Kids named and shamed "

Followed by :

"My Kid is not a scummer, He now fears for his life "

And No1 in the top ten excuses :

" Kids will be Kids "

Nah, far more likely scenario:

"Crumlin Kids Named and Shamed"
"Crumlin Kids in Hiding Following Abuse on Social Media"
"One of the Crumlin Kids Commits Suicide Due to Scandalous Abuse on Social Media"
"Outrage on Social Media About Abuse of Crumlin Kids on Social Media"
"Social Media Abusers of Crumlin Kids In Hiding Following Abuse on Social Media"
...
...





Bring back the IRA lads. They'd take care of these guys sharpish. Great bunch of lads the 'ra.

hatrickpatrick

I've said it a hundred thousand times and I'll say it again - most of the scumbags in the D8 and D12 areas seem to be "known to the Gardai", and when they're brought to court, you'll often hear about them having previous convictions in the double digits.

The issue here is not policing, the issue is courts which refuse to accept that some people are just f*cking assholes and shouldn't have the right to live among decent human beings.

end of the road

steddyeddy wrote: »

That's a really scummy thing to say considering the history of the laundries in this country.

ah but but shur didn't they respect the law? oh, wait. selling children, enslavement, even cases of rape in these places. there were a lot of laws broken all right.

MilesMorales1

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I've said it a hundred thousand times and I'll say it again - most of the scumbags in the D8 and D12 areas seem to be "known to the Gardai", and when they're brought to court, you'll often hear about them having previous convictions in the double digits.

The issue here is not policing, the issue is courts which refuse to accept that some people are just f*cking assholes and shouldn't have the right to live among decent human beings.

Well in theory it is more effective to rehabilitate someone then stuff them in an overcrowded prison.


I say in theory cos it doesn't seem to bloody work, just hear more and more of these stories of little bastards running rampant and don't even seem to care if they caught cos they'll only get a caution or a suspended sentence or whatever.

end of the road

Dr. Zaius Dr. Zaius! wrote: »

I for one am all for vigilantism.

Group of accountants by day, snipers by night, take out all the scummers one by one.
Eventually eliminating all of them.
Might free up some houses for people who actually want to contribute to society.

well be glad i'm not in charge, as such vigilanteism would be met by a swift responce from the army on the grounds of people trying to overthrow the state. vigilantes only care about attention and taking over certain trades, they certainly don't care about dealing with genuine issues. anyone who takes the law into their own hands has no argument to complain about law breaking, because they condone it themselves

kylith

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Well in theory it is more effective to rehabilitate someone then stuff them in an overcrowded prison.


I say in theory cos it doesn't seem to bloody work, just hear more and more of these stories of little bastards running rampant and don't even seem to care if they caught cos they'll only get a caution or a suspended sentence or whatever.

That's because they're not being rehabilitated; they're just being given a slap on the wrist and sent home.

The best solution is to get in there while they're young and educate, educate, educate. That needs the full support of their family as well though.