France v England 8pm

aimee1

really looking forward to this game, two near first choice teams

Have a funny feeling England are going to get pasted tonight.

The Pheasant2

Not sure who I want to win actually

The Pheasant2

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Not sure who I want to win actually

England for sure imo

Mc Love

Ford not having a good start

.ak

Ford with 3 high profile mistakes already

Pudsy33

Jesus ford

kevohmsford

England making mistakes at the break down. 6-0 France 11 mins.

awec

England giving away penalties galore at the breakdown.

Mc Love

kevohmsford wrote: »

England making mistakes at the break down. 6-0 France 11 mins.

A lot of mistakes, France on top so far

Stheno

Nice save for England there

Flipper22

France looking very good. Need to get Picamoles on the ball more, he looks in insane shape

Diabhal Beag

Brown is pretty good at the rugby

kevohmsford

Mike Brown did very well there to catch that.

The Pheasant2

France playing some very tidy rugby here; England looking a tad sloppy and indisciplined

awec

That's pathetic from England.

Pudsy33

Billy and Ford have been poison. Nice catch from angry Mike all the same.

Not so flaky now!

Stheno

9-0 to france now michalek has scored more points than any French player

awec

WTF sort of lineout was that.

Youngs was standing in line with his own fcuking line!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

England have hooker problems.

awec

England should be on the phone in an hours time to Steffon Armitage and begging him to come into their squad.

They are woeful at the breakdown. Woeful.

molloyjh

I don't think France have looked that great tbh. England have just been really poor. While there's a lot of talent there and they are good in individual areas I don't think they've fixed their real problem, i.e. the lack of structure to their game.

The Pheasant2

Jaysus England...they look rattled; reckon France should try and put their foot to the English throat and go for the corner from now

sydthebeat

Flakey is in form tonight

molloyjh

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Jaysus England...they look rattled; reckon France should try and put their foot to the English throat and go for the corner from now

It's been all France but if you take out the breakdown penalties that England have given away, what exactly have France created?

awec

Another lineout that was a million miles from straight.

The Pheasant2

awec wrote: »

England should be on the phone in an hours time to Steffon Armitage and begging him to come into their squad.

They are woeful at the breakdown. Woeful.

It's an area that Australia really could **** them in

Flipper22

molloyjh wrote: »

I don't think France have looked that great tbh. England have just been really poor. While there's a lot of talent there and they are good in individual areas I don't think they've fixed their real problem, i.e. the lack of structure to their game.

Yeah I agree with this, still get the feeling that if they lose momentum they don't really have the leaders or the structure to hold it together. But when they get teams on the back foot they can do a lot of damage with their power and pace. England are looking shellshocked

RogerThis

Why am I hoping France to win? Damn you Irish guilt!

aimee1

molloyjh wrote: »

It's been all France but if you take out the breakdown penalties that England have given away, what exactly have France created?

add in ford missing touch and a few minutes later flaky fred tapped over a penalty

france have been ok but all points have been gifts so far

molloyjh

molloyjh wrote: »

I don't think France have looked that great tbh. England have just been really poor. While there's a lot of talent there and they are good in individual areas I don't think they've fixed their real problem, i.e. the lack of structure to their game.

I dunno, seems to be more fight in the dog than the last two seasons. Second half will tell all.

England are very poor, nerves look shot but they'll improve. Armitage would make a huge difference to this team for sure.

aimee1

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

England have hooker problems.

i still reckon hartley will be involved at some point

Stheno

Twelve nil now to France, all penalties

molloyjh

Does Peyper intend to talk to England at any stage about the number of penalties they are giving away?

aimee1

dumb from france really when they had a chance to clear

awec

If this wasn't a friendly England would have a man in the bin by now.

irishbucsfan

"Their first visit inside the French 22"

That's a visit is it?

sydthebeat

Robshaw 6 armitage 7 would be loosies to savour. The English back row today is lacking in the ground, billy v doesn't offer much.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

aimee1 wrote: »

i still reckon hartley will be involved at some point

I don't know. I don't think they want to but they may have no choice. Only problem is they'd probably have to name him in the squad because they can't fake an injury to call him up later, or can they?

aimee1

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I don't know. I don't think they want to but they may have no choice. Only problem is they'd probably have to name him in the squad because they can't fake an injury to call him up later, or can they?

first sign or an injury to one of their named hookers and the bat signal will be shining over northampton

molloyjh

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I dunno, seems to be more fight in the dog than the last two seasons. Second half will tell all.

England are very poor, nerves look shot but they'll improve. Armitage would make a huge difference to this team for sure.

Yeah as individual and specific units they look good. But as a team as a whole they've lacked the game plan to convert their territory and possession into genuine scoring opportunities. If England were better at the breakdown there'd be nothing in this.

corny

Basteraud is such a one dimensional thinker. Spedding offered himself on a super line there and was completely ignored.

aimee1

should be a card because it was so cynically deliberate

awec

It's deliberate, so it's a card for me.

Hm, ref disagrees. Very dodgy IMO.

irishbucsfan

A new lease of life for wee Simon.

molloyjh

Peyper has got to talk to Robshaw about all these penalties surely????

aimee1

molloyjh wrote: »

Peyper has got to talk to Robshaw about all these penalties surely????

id say cheika and gatland are hoping he doesnt

Stheno

15-3 to France now.

Stheno

Jaysis England are desperate

sydthebeat

Le roux has been excellent in this half