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  • 20-08-2015 9:23am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭


    your homeless.
    A scheme to relocate hundreds of homeless Dublin families to vacant homes around the country will be considered by Government in the autumn.
    Work on a “rural relocation scheme” for homeless families is at an early stage, a spokesman for the Department of the Environment said yesterday but added it was one of a range of measures to tackle the spiralling homelessness crisis that would be discussed by the Cabinet Sub-Committee on Social Exclusion in coming weeks.
    Discussions on how such a scheme would work are being led by the senior department officials, he said, and involved the City and County Managers Association, the HSE and Dublin City Council as the lead local authority coordinating homelessness services in the capital.

    The current thinking is that the “choice-based lettings” system would be used to “advertise” vacant dwellings in rural areas to homeless families.
    “Choice-based lettings” is a scheme used by local authorities to advertise council houses that are difficult to let, to households on the housing waiting list.
    Interested households can then express an interest in a dwelling. It is seen as a way for households to “jump” the waiting list if they are willing to take a less desirable dwelling.
    The department spokesman said: “That is how the choice- based system works at the moment. This will be examined to see how it might operate in the context of homeless persons.”
    Commuter counties

    With the number of families with children homeless in Dublin now at the highest in more than a decade – some 1,185 children from 556 families were counted as homeless in Dublin last month – the crisis will be top of both the Government’s and opposition’s agenda when the Dáil reconvenes next month.

    Numbers are also escalating in the commuter counties, as well as in the main urban areas of Cork, Galway and Limerick.
    Speaking at an event in Dublin yesterday to mark the 30th anniversary of Focus Ireland, its founder, Sr Stanislaus Kennedy, said she had never seen as much homelessness in Ireland.
    “It’s out of control and it’s an emergency now. Every day we’re seeing new families becoming homeless, and the numbers are increasing,” she said.
    Detailed plans on how to help families affected by the housing crisis move from Dublin to rural Ireland, have been put to both the Department of the Environment and the Department of Agriculture by Rural Resettlement Ireland (RRI).
    In a submission to the Department of Agriculture earlier this year RRI said: “The housing crisis in Dublin is well-documented, as is the abundance of available houses in the west/midlands and some other rural areas.”

    Seriously, do we need any more Dubs down the country? They have the place destroyed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    That's a lovely attitude you have there. Is it any wonder your home county is a ****hole when its inhabitants seem to be xenophobes?

    Maybe if they were more progressive and open minded their young people wouldn't flee at the first opportunity?

    Ultimately I think this will flop because the vast majority of homeless families don't want somewhere that's a few hundred KM from their friends and families. Some will be happy to take them, but most won't.

    And it's valid to a certain extent. If someone is struggling financially, then they're probably struggling emotionally and healthwise too. Lifting them up and dropping them out of reach of people who can provide them with practical assistance is unlikely to make things better.

    That said, we need to be more flexible on the whole thing. Someone should be able to state a preference for a location and then they get housed within a 5km radius of that location. You can't refuse without very good reason (i.e. my ex wife lives next door).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I hope you're joking??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Sure, they're Dubs now. But their kids will grow up to be cabbage munching bogtrotters themselves. It's an investment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Tell you what, lets keep all the dublin tax money in dublin and let each county fend for themselves with their own tax money too.
    Move from a 26 county state to 26 individual states.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,599 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    your homeless.



    Seriously, do we need any more Dubs down the country? They have the place destroyed.

    It will make more space for you to live when you come to Dublin cap in hand looking for a job.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Menas wrote: »
    Tell you what, lets keep all the dublin tax money in dublin and let each county fend for themselves with their own tax money too.
    Move from a 26 county state to 26 individual states.

    You can let the people who live along the Shannon keep their water so. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Menas wrote: »
    Tell you what, lets keep all the dublin tax money in dublin and let each county fend for themselves with their own tax money too.
    Move from a 26 county state to 26 individual states.

    Grand. We'll keep our water and grub. See you on the other side.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Do you have any evidence 'Dubs' destroyed the place, except your own prejudices and possibly stupid anecdotal evidence about them lads from Dublin that visited you were an awful nuisance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    Gets popcorn.





    This should be interesting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Do you have any evidence 'Dubs' destroyed the place, except your own prejudices and possibly stupid anecdotal evidence about them lads from Dublin that visited you were an awful nuisance?

    None. I made it up. Move along.
    Where's your contrary evidence?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    I don't get the OP . What is the problem?

    Parts of rural ireland is crying out for people to live there, many parts of the country will die out in one or 2 generations as it's mostly old people left.
    This surely will be a shot in the arm for these communities whcih will help them develop and grow.

    I vaguely recall something in the 1990s - it was on the late late show - and they moved families form dublin to rural areas. By all accounts it was a great success.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    A version of this has been going on for years its called the rural resettlement scheme and rural Ireland has not collapsed yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 718 ✭✭✭stmol32


    I hate to give you the bad news but they won't all be Dubs.
    Some of them will be foreigners!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭6541


    The Dubs ruin the character of local villages and towns. I remember in my village when we had the so called rural resettlement scheme our drug and crime problem went up by 1000 % after one chap moved down.
    It was so bad you would walk down the lane and bump into the chap and he would say things like "Hows it going their buddy, you wouldn't have a spare smoke" or "You wouldn't have some spare change for the meter"
    It was odd we don't have meters in our village.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    6541 wrote: »
    The Dubs ruin the character of local villages and towns. I remember in my village when we had the so called rural resettlement scheme our drug and crime problem went up by 1000 % after one chap moved down.
    It was so bad you would walk down the lane and bump into the chap and he would say things like "Hows it going their buddy, you wouldn't have a spare smoke" or "You wouldn't have some spare change for the meter"
    It was odd we don't have meters in our village.

    Of course they do. Nice bit of anecdotal evidence there that means nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭PandaPoo


    6541 wrote: »
    The Dubs ruin the character of local villages and towns. I remember in my village when we had the so called rural resettlement scheme our drug and crime problem went up by 1000 % after one chap moved down.
    It was so bad you would walk down the lane and bump into the chap and he would say things like "Hows it going their buddy, you wouldn't have a spare smoke" or "You wouldn't have some spare change for the meter"
    It was odd we don't have meters in our village.

    Spotted a gap in the market, sounds like a good business man to me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    I don't see the problem. They'll assimilate and be eating Supermacs in no time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Seriously, do we need any more Dubs down the country? They have the place destroyed.
    Dublin bankrolls most of the rest of the country. You'll take them if you want that to continue.
    Grand. We'll keep our water and grub. See you on the other side.
    Grand so. Last time I checked Dublin gets neither for free, so seeing as you want to kill off your last revenue stream, let us know how you'll be able to afford to grow any grub in the future.

    Still, you'll have plenty of cheap labour to help, given you won't be able to send second sons and daughters to Dublin to find a job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,177 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    This kind of thing works very well around the country. What usually ends up happening is that you get the worst, uncontrollable loo-lahs from the cities relocated out into the sticks, turning hitherto sleepy little cow-towns into something like a suburb of Jo'Burg. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,433 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    What about the shame of their kids picking up a rural accent?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭6541


    Of course they do. Nice bit of anecdotal evidence there that means nothing.

    I asked Garda O'Prátaí my local Garda to elaborate on the crime and drug statistics. He stated once your man was locked up for the night crime and drugs offences fell by 1000% when he was out crime and drugs was up 1000 %. Fact!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Dublin bankrolls most of the rest of the country. You'll take them if you want that to continue.
    A myth.
    Grand so. Last time I checked Dublin gets neither for free, so seeing as you want to kill off your last revenue stream, let us know how you'll be able to afford to grow any grub in the future.
    We'll export it to your ancestors, across the water.
    Still, you'll have plenty of cheap labour to help, given you won't be able to send second sons and daughters to Dublin to find a job.
    yeah


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    kneemos wrote: »
    What about the shame of their kids picking up a rural accent?

    On the other hand, there's nothing better than egging on your kids to do their best Dublin accent to the horror of your mullah in laws.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,406 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    A myth.


    We'll export it to your ancestors, across the water.


    yeah

    Is thai an anti-Dublin thing, an anti-homeless thing or just nimbyism?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    A myth

    Unfortunately not


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    A myth.


    We'll export it to your ancestors, across the water.


    yeah

    In 2012 80% of farmers income came from subsidies, that's effectively dole money. Now if the farmers are receiving it who's paying for it ?

    Where does this deep hatred of the Dub's or resentment or what ever it is come from ? Dublin is full of people from every county in Ireland yet this sort of crap gets rolled out all the time ? I don't get it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Gerry T wrote: »
    In 2012 80% of farmers income came from subsidies, that's effectively dole money. Now if the farmers are receiving it who's paying for it ?
    From Dublin? Ich don't think so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    A myth.
    Nope. Quite true and wouldn't take a genius to realize this given the relative population and industry densities.
    We'll export it to your ancestors, across the water.
    Even the water? Good luck.
    yeah
    Yeah.


  • Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭downwesht


    Ah Jaysus!Tisn't the Dubs we have to worry about down here in West Cork but the bloody English.They are invading the place......it's worse than the plantation....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 216 ✭✭babaracus


    Why are people assuming that homeless people in Dublin are from Dublin originally? The guy who sits outside my building cup in hand sounds like he only left Mayo yesterday but has been knocking around Dublin city for years. We are just giving them back so you culchies should welcome your brothers home with open arms.


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