Dealing with Tanager re: mortgage Nightmare!

gentorev

before I go mad please is there someone else out there about to rip out your hair from trying to deal with these people aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
I thought certus was bad (the admin crew for bank of Scotland)

Quorom

Are you in dispute with them ?

homer911

I thought the title was a typo until I googled them..

Quorom

HML ltd are the credit servicing firm appointed by LLP to manage Tanager's loan book. I wonder have they got their credit servicing authorisation from the Central Bank of Ireland, the closing date for the C.B.I. to have received such an application from HML Ltd as part of the statutory transitional provisions for existing credit servicing firms was the 8th October 2015. Has anyone requested same ?

preakness

Hi there
I have been advised by lapithus (Tanager ) that I did not co-operate re my mortgage and therefore my mortgage has been handed over to the legal team. I have always tried to deal with them but unfortunately they have taken this decision . Is there anymore I can do ??

Forbearance

See do they own the charge on your mortgage.

preakness

Hi there
In the unlikely event that they do not own my mortgage what is the likely outcome .
Do I ask them directly

Forbearance

Go to the PRA, see if the transfer of the charge reads from GCBOS or BOSI to Tanager LTD, as oppose to BOS PLC to Tanager LTD. If it is either of the former they may not have any locus standi to bring legal proceedings against you. A High Court judgment has already determined that being registered as owner of the charge in the PRA does not guarantee good title.

preakness

hi There
Many thanks for the advice
Would that be the property registration authority .
Can that info be got online or through the offices of same
Cheers

Forbearance

Yes, it is. You will have to pay 40 euro for a true copy of the instrument of transfer. The staff in there are relatively friendly and will help you with your enquiries.

preakness

thanks again
Appreciate the advice
I will reply once I have the information

preakness

Hi there
The owner is Bos plc to tanager ltd
My own and my wife interest are registered on 14.01.15 and Bos plc also 14.01.15
and tanager the owner 22.05.15
My recollection is that when the mortgage was drawn down many years ago it was never registered by our solicitor until last year.

preakness

That solicitor does not practice anymore

newacc2015

askaboutmoney.com has excellent advice on dealing with banks. I would advise posting there

I would immediately lodge a formal complaint with Tanager following the advice by the financial services ombudsman. State that you are cooperating but Tanager won't restructure your mortgage in a manner that is workable for you

https://www.financialombudsman.ie/

Tanager probably have brought your mortgage for a quick buck. They brought it for cents on the euro from BOS, they want to repossess it and make a profit. They probably don't want to deal with you as a customer for years.

My suggestion is starting googling and finding out is there issues with your mortgage contract. There is plenty of problems with bank documents which is making repossessions difficult

eg http://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/laffoy-comments-may-affect-bosi-distressed-mortgages-1.2157618

preakness

I have a mortgage that is in arrears and have been recently notified that I am " not co-operating and therefore it progresses to the legal route .

since 22 may 2015 Tanager ltd are the new owners .


The mortgage was taken out with BOSI in 2006/2007 .

However the charge was not registered in the deeds and in my name until 14 Jan 2015 and also registered the same day to BOS plc .

My solicitor never registered the charge on the deeds or neither was it pursued by BOSI


My solicitor has since gone out of business .


Do I have any legal case in (A) it was never registered on the deeds for 10 years or so


( it was registered after the facts( in hindsight ) etc


( C ) it was never registered to BOSI and therefore could not be transferred to BOS plc as BOS plc was not in existence .( after the fact )

preakness

I have a mortgage that is in arrears and have been recently notified that I am " not co-operating and therefore it progresses to the legal route .

since 22 may 2015 Tanager ltd are the new owners .


The mortgage was taken out with BOSI in 2005/2006 .

However the charge was not registered in the deeds and in my name until 14 Jan 2015 and also registered the same day to BOS plc .

My solicitor never registered the charge on the deeds or neither was it pursued by BOSI


My solicitor has since gone out of business .


Do I have any legal case in (A) it was never registered on the deeds for 10 years or so


( it was registered after the facts( in hindsight ) etc


( C ) it was never registered to BOSI and therefore could not be transferred to BOS plc as BOS plc was not in existence .( after the fact )

newacc2015

preakness wrote: »

I have a mortgage that is in arrears and have been recently notified that I am " not co-operating and therefore it progresses to the legal route .

since 22 may 2015 Tanager ltd are the new owners .


The mortgage was taken out with BOSI in 2005/2006 .

However the charge was not registered in the deeds and in my name until 14 Jan 2015 and also registered the same day to BOS plc .

My solicitor never registered the charge on the deeds or neither was it pursued by BOSI


My solicitor has since gone out of business .


Do I have any legal case in (A) it was never registered on the deeds for 10 years or so


( it was registered after the facts( in hindsight ) etc


( C ) it was never registered to BOSI and therefore could not be transferred to BOS plc as BOS plc was not in existence .( after the fact )

Have you spoken to MABS? Have they restructured your loan? ie part payments, warehousing part of it, lower interest rate etc?

You honestly need to speak to a decent solictor to see if your mortgage contract is in fact kosher and whether they can actually enforce legal proceedings against you.

Lodge a complaint with Tanager as you have to wait 40 working days for a response before you can go to the FSO

preakness

Hi
I have been to mabs many years ago , did not find them to be of any use
Been to New beginning and to prima finance , they took a fee but yet nothing happened
Decent solicitor is like finding a needle in a haystack .
I have been to a good number

Forbearance

preakness wrote: »

Hi there
The owner is Bos plc to tanager ltd
My own and my wife interest are registered on 14.01.15 and Bos plc also 14.01.15
and tanager the owner 22.05.15
My recollection is that when the mortgage was drawn down many years ago it was never registered by our solicitor until last year.

Who was registered in the pra as owner of the charge prior to BOS PLC ?

preakness

There is no mention of an owner of the charge until it was entered on the 14 January 2015 . the entry is recorded as
" charge for present and future advances repayable with interest .
Bank of Scotland PLC is the owner of this charge "

this is the first entry on the deed .
the second entry is dated 22 May 2015 whereby the charge was transferred to tanager limited

Forbearance

are you the first owner of the house ?

preakness

I happen to be in planning and architecture , I designed the house and built the house and yes I am the first owner.
Originally the mortgage was with a different bank but switched to BOSI to avail of the tracker

Forbearance

Tanager, through their master credit servicing agent Lapithus, are now offering discounts of up to 40% to variable and tracker mortgage holders.

jennied30

Can anyone help me out, jut received court date for January, panic has started, dont know what to do, havent missed a payment in over 2 years and have offered them more and they wont come to an arrangement.

jennied30

thanks Aileen

so the letter i received yesterday is from their solicitor about 500 pages in the documents. at the end of the solicitor letter it clearly states they recommend contacting the arrears support unit and gives a phone number which is Tanager. why is it with a solicitor if they want me to ring them?

Openair

Hey guys,,hoping to get a meeting organised between tanager mortgage holders.We are hoping to get a td to attend to have them in in front of the finance committee.We are also hoping to have some financial commentators attend. Any interest from guys here?

PolDara

jennied30 wrote: »

thanks Aileen

so the letter i received yesterday is from their solicitor about 500 pages in the documents. at the end of the solicitor letter it clearly states they recommend contacting the arrears support unit and gives a phone number which is Tanager. why is it with a solicitor if they want me to ring them?

Hi Jennie, just received court paper's also for January. It's state's the same on my letter to contact the support unit. Just wondering if you contacted them.

PolDara

jennied30 wrote: »

Can anyone help me out, jut received court date for January, panic has started, dont know what to do, havent missed a payment in over 2 years and have offered them more and they wont come to an arrangement.

In the same boat, contacted the hub and have meeting with them this week. Hopefully they will advise on what to do next. Very stressful time.

jennied30

PolDara wrote: »

Hi Jennie, just received court paper's also for January. It's state's the same on my letter to contact the support unit. Just wondering if you contacted them.

Hey. No I did ring them and they sent me out new financial forms to fill out again. Not sure if I should do them.

PolDara

jennied30 wrote: »

Hey. No I did ring them and they sent me out new financial forms to fill out again. Not sure if I should do them.

Thanks, I'm just going to leave it now and let things take its course. Have you checked your title deeds to see who owned the charge on your home before tanager.

mockingjay

I don't know if you have seen this, but it might be worth a read. Best of luck over the next few weeks.

http://www.thejournal.ie/mortgage-lender-court-what-happens-abhaile-mabs-3557454-Aug2017/

Edmount

Hello Tanagroup , Our case was adjourned on Monday till December. Its the same issue of charge on the folio.I would appreciate if anybody knows if there were any judgement of the appeal court made yet?

Edmount

Thanks for news , I'll try to be there .
rgds

Edmount

Hi there ,
Have anybody any news of any judgement on latest appeal case?
rgds

BrendanBurgess

I understand that the case of Tanager vs. Rolf Kane will be in the High Court on October 31.

I am not involved in the case so I don't know the ins and outs of it.

Brendan

Lrndmurtagh

BrendanBurgess wrote: »

I understand that the case of Tanager vs. Rolf Kane will be in the High Court on October 31.

I am not involved in the case so I don't know the ins and outs of it.

Brendan

Anyone know what happened with this case ?

BrendanBurgess

I was there yesterday, and have reported on the first day here:

Tanager vs. Ralf Kane in the High Court

Ronstal

Openair wrote: »

Hey guys,,hoping to get a meeting organised between tanager mortgage holders.We are hoping to get a td to attend to have them in in front of the finance committee.We are also hoping to have some financial commentators attend. Any interest from guys here?

Hi,
Did that meeting ever happen? Have just discovered this forum and would be interested to gather as much information as possible about Tanager. Thanks

ChartAccount

Hi Everyone, has anybody been offered a cash settlement with any of these funds. If so can you PM me thanks!

Ronstal

ChartAccount wrote: »

Hi Everyone, has anybody been offered a cash settlement with any of these funds. If so can you PM me thanks!

Pm sent

Susie120

Hi There, Can somebody help me....I need some legal advice regarding Tanager ASAP.  I am currently working abroad and need to get in touch with a reputable agency to help me with my Dublin home.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

Susie120

Hi There, Can somebody help me....I need some legal advice regarding Tanager ASAP.  I am currently working abroad and need to get in touch with a reputable agency to help me with my Dublin home.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

alandukes

Susie120 wrote: »

Hi There, Can somebody help me....I need some legal advice regarding Tanager ASAP.  I am currently working abroad and need to get in touch with a reputable agency to help me with my Dublin home.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

Hi Susie
If you pm me I can maybe able to put you in contact with someone that can talk over your options.

Susie120

Hi Alan, I will PM you this evening.  Thanks for replying to me.  Regards,

dameshel

Susie120 wrote: »

Hi There, Can somebody help me....I need some legal advice regarding Tanager ASAP.  I am currently working abroad and need to get in touch with a reputable agency to help me with my Dublin home.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

Hi Susie, I have been involved with some cases involving Tanager and have had quite a bit of success in recovering overcharging and arranging settlements. If you want to discuss further please do not hesitate to contact me.

dameshel

I have been involved with some cases involving Tanager and have had quite a bit of success in recovering overcharges and arranging settlements. If you want to discuss further please do not hesitate to contact me.

Edmount

Hello Brendan, Iam one of the people in similar situation as mr Kane, so I was wondering what happend to this case eventually?
rgds

BrendanBurgess

It has been put back to June 26th.

On a separate Tanager issue, they have been calculating the repayments and the arrears incorrectly, so you will probably get a letter from them about this.

Brendan

Edmount

hello again, would You know if there's any progress with the Kane case?
Havent got any letters yet btw.

BrendanBurgess

It was heard last week. But no decision by the judges yet.

Brendan

Edmount

Thank You Brendan, when is the next sitting?