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Do you feel guilty about using Ad Block Programs.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭ALiasEX


    cisk wrote: »
    Pretty much, I don't agree with them making a business out of it. The other blocker is donation based, it's also more efficient on cpu and memory usuage.

    ublock is donation based but not ublock origin,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Never. Just because we're used to it doesn't mean it's ok. Marketing actually works sometimes, as in it really makes people buy things they don't really want or need.

    'Advertising is legalised lying' - HG Wells.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    I was on some site the other day and Chumbawamba started blaring straight away and at the top of the screen it said they apologized but because I was using ad-block plus, I would have to listen to that song whilst using their website. Can't remember what site it was. Might have been a porn site. If so, please don't confirm.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 367 ✭✭justchecked


    I was on some site the other day and Chumbawamba started blaring straight away and at the top of the screen it said they apologized but because I was using ad-block plus, I would have to listen to that song whilst using their website. Can't remember what site it was. Might have been a porn site. If so, please don't confirm.

    any site with autoplay gets a lifetime ban in my book.

    if it was the last pron site in the world and it had autoplay Id head off and get the dunnes lingerie section.

    autoplay is canceraids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭puckmymuskie


    I use Disconnect and Ublock.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    Recommend uBlock over Adblock (as mentioned earlier) - seems to run better, and haven't noticed excessive memory usage with it either.

    Ads are a great way to get malware, so blocking them by default is simply just good practice; bonus in that you don't have to deal with anything annoying either.

    It was only less than a month ago for instance, it was found/fixed, that by simply loading fonts from a website, could be used to infect your computer - and there are dozens/hundreds (if not thousands) of yet to be discovered ways of exploiting the software you run when viewing websites, and no website has any real control over the ads they show, so it's just a really bad idea to be allowing any ads at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Rattled


    I was on some site the other day and Chumbawamba started blaring straight away and at the top of the screen it said they apologized but because I was using ad-block plus, I would have to listen to that song whilst using their website. Can't remember what site it was. Might have been a porn site. If so, please don't confirm.

    Such an outlaw....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭ressem


    Surprise, surprise,
    advertising networks are used to distribute malware.
    Distributing malicious, insufficiently checked javascript, flash and images to the target audience.

    http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/08/my-browser-visited-drudgereport-and-all-i-got-was-this-lousy-malware/
    The criminals behind the campaign previously carried out a similar attack on Yahoo's ad network, exposing millions more people to the same drive-by attacks.
    The campaign used against the AdSpirit and Yahoo networks connected to servers run by Microsoft's Azure service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,140 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    No. Advertisers have had the chance to behave responsibly, but have ignored it, so that's the end of the story for me. It's not just ads, it's 3rd-partytracking scripts too, so NoScript is on too, and I'm currently trying the EFF's PrivacyBadger.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭puckmymuskie


    ^^^ does badger sell your info to ad companies like ghostery? Im sure disconnesct doesn't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Arytonblue


    Only learnt this recently, every time you use your browser to block an ad, somewhere out in the world, a lonely, balding advertising exec in his mid 40's, possibly going by the name Chet or Chad, living in Spokane, WA, slowly but surely loses a fraction of his life-force, knowing all his attempts to spread useless information of products and entertainment to the wider public is ultimately in vain. Sad stuff altogether. We should all be ashamed.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Arytonblue wrote: »
    Only learnt this recently, every time you use your browser to block an ad, somewhere out in the world, a lonely, balding advertising exec in his mid 40's, possibly going by the name Chet or Chad, living in Spokane, WA, slowly but surely loses a fraction of his life-force, knowing all his attempts to spread useless information of products and entertainment to the wider public is ultimately in vain. Sad stuff altogether. We should all be ashamed.
    Well, if I want (or need) his products, I'll search for them, that's what search engines are for. I don't need them shoved in my face.

    No ad-block at work and I find the web pages cluttered up with stuff I've just bought,
    I don't need another one so I don't want to see ads for it!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,140 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    ^^^ does badger sell your info to ad companies like ghostery? Im sure disconnesct doesn't.
    Since it was created by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the body that makes the most noise about online privacy today ... I bloody well hope not.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭DivingDuck


    I was on some site the other day and Chumbawamba started blaring straight away and at the top of the screen it said they apologized but because I was using ad-block plus, I would have to listen to that song whilst using their website. Can't remember what site it was. Might have been a porn site. If so, please don't confirm.

    Doesn't everyone already have their sound muted when on porn sites anyway...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Google Chrome has the most ad-blocking software, according to the article.

    So if the company that relies on ads for revenue lets users block ads wholesale, then why should I feel guilty about blocking them.

    Maybe if ad placement was more subtle, there'd be no need to block them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I never used ad blocking software until autoplaying, talking ads began to crop up all over the internet. I'm a music junkie, and nothing wrecks my internet buzz more than Avicii being interrupted by "WANNA HEAR THE SECRET TO MILLION DOLLAR STOCK TRADING? I WAS ONLY 21 WHEN I LEARNED..."

    Seriously, advertising companies have only themselves to blame. It's like the argument about pirated films (double click file, watch movie) vs legitimately bought DVDs (put DVD in, watch twenty minutes of unskippable ads and piracy warnings, watch movie) - if you make your "legitimate" model so corrosive to the user experience, circumvention is the natural result of that. I never blocked a single ad back in the days when ads were silent, or at least wouldn't start making noise until you moused-over them. But when either listening to or actually producing music, and using headphones, it's not worth the risk of being interrupted by some gobsh!te salesman talking at twice the "normalised" audio volume just because I happened to look up a particular website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The touch version of boards has ads which are very easy to tap on.

    This. Also, those ads where it lets the page load, and then as soon as you scroll down some javascript thing appears which takes over the whole page, and you have to hunt around for a "close ad" button - often a decoy which clicks on the ad, while the actual "close" button is smaller and more tucked away.

    Websites for looking up song lyrics are notorious for this - you're half way through reading the first verse when the text dims, and "GET THIS SONG AS A FREE RINGTONE" flies across the screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,827 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    No. Crazy question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Arytonblue


    My personal favourite is when, on a dodgy streaming site, the entire screen turns into a tedious mini-game to try and clear the ads on screen in the correct order as fast as possible. Click the wrong X and you're boned. Fantastic stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    I don't feel anyway guilty for blocking a nuisance/parasite. If I was not using an add-blocker I'd be just looking at adverts instead of the web information I'm trying to read. Get your 2 month supply of Viagra here at the best prices and sh!t, yeah thanks for reminding me ffs.

    The best invention that accompanied the net is add-blockers, especially adblock-edge, may it rise high and eat up all of those indoctrinating adverts trying to convert me from my weetabix to this new crunchy pox serial, or trying to sell me things that are useless. Find another way to sell your product instead of branwashing the population please, or you will die like the old video tape.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭eqwjewoiujqorj


    The advertisers are probably still tracking you anyway if you have cookies turned on, so make sure to turn them off.

    NoScript is also useful for stopping lots of rubbish content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Very Bored


    There was something about this on Radio 4 the other day, saying how they are starting to revisit how to advertise on the internet because of the proliferation of adblockers. Virtually nobody, apparently, objects to adverts which sit alongside a webpage or at the bottom, but they do object massively to pop ups and those which track you and aggressively advertise by referring to what you were looking at hours or days ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    No.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    have adblocker on the PC, due to the aggravations of ads that get in the way, slow things down, and make browsing a less pleasant experience.

    I just wish there was an equally effective way to screen out "search engines" that when you go to them don't have the thing you searched for, despite putting the search term on the page.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    DivingDuck wrote: »
    Doesn't everyone already have their sound muted when on porn sites anyway...?

    Depends on if youre alone or not. A bit of sound can make it better.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    Another good example of why the Indo is such a useless waste of trees & ink..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    This thread just reminded me to install adblock. No don't feel guilty, internet advertising companies such as Google are inherently evil.

    Most people simply accept the advertising now because they never saw the internet before it went all commercial and mainstream but it was so different back then. Early protocols like Gopher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_protocol) didn't even support inline images and animation, you only clicked on the item that was of interest and the rest is just text and links. Thats not to say if Gopher had gone mainstream support for embedded advertising wouldn't have been added.

    But feck it everyone and everything is after your money now. Joined a meetup group there a few months ago but lost interest when I found out there was a hefty charge to go to each event. A bit of digging revealed yer man was just using it to pimp his own business in a slightly more personalised manner


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,977 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    No.

    I support one guy through Patreon, and that's it. A fiver a month. I don't have any Youtube subscriptions. I simply can't be arsed, I've no interest in leaving comments and I don't want to receive emails saying 'so and so has posted a video'. The ads for car insurance and that sort of thing can feck off. It's not just Youtube, though.

    I can understand some of the frustrations the creators are dealing with, if it's a revenue stream for them.

    https://twitter.com/Barnacules/status/571464579961638912

    Some of them do complain about it a little too much, not necessarily the guy above, btw. At the same time, there can be an awful stench of entitlement in comments sections 'hey, why aren't you doing this and that?' I've heard Youtube has made somewhat of a mess of delivering subscription updates to users and the creators have seen their views decline as a result. Not sure how accurate that is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭PixelTrawler


    Another good reason to block ads.

    http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2015/08/my-browser-visited-drudgereport-and-all-i-got-was-this-lousy-malware/

    Even worse than the annoyance and slowing of web pages is malware. And as that link shows it can happen on regular websites.

    A chrome plugin i added lately is Privacy Badger. Its not an ad blocker. Instead it shows the number of links on a page that are actively tracking you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    As previous poster said,you go into website mining your own business just to download some torrents,and suddenly you have 5 screens popping out,sounds coming out with ideas to make you millions,etc-then have to be real careful in closing down those windows-since feckers put in stuff where they ask do you really want to close this tab.

    Yes sir ill click your button to have a headache for rest of the day cleaning all the crap afterwards that you'll install.

    while i dont use any ad blocks,but its getting worse with usual sites,you come to read some news-and theres 20 ads bouncing around the screen.

    I know hosting and traffic costs a lot,but if site that averages huge traffic cant support itself in some ways they might die as well.Not fan to pay for anything online but simple donation button for most sites would be more then enough if they are worth the content.


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