White 'Genocide' documentary

I came across this youtube video that I think should be worth a look in order to stimulate discussion as it is certainly thought provoking.

The opening minutes show news reports from fairly mainstream news networks with reports of ethnic white European cultures becoming minorities in their major cities and in some cases countries.

The point is - ethnic whites were never consulted about whether to allow wide scale immigration. There was never any referendum passed on this major issue, one which changes the make up of a country irreversibly and in some cases dangerously.

I think it's worth a look and before you dismiss it as racist (inevitable), I will fully concede that the word "genocide" was poorly chosen but I think it was done to capture the imagination and nothing more. The fact is, white people will become minorities in Europe in the near future, and how long after that will it be before they become extinct altogether?

Mesrine65

There is a price to pay for a countries colonial & imperialistic past , as you sow so shall you reap...

kneemos

The only thing changing is the colour.
Second or third generation Londoners will be as London as Danny Dyer.

The melodramatic video seems obsessed with colour,it doesn't necessarily mean a change of culture.

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

The only thing changing is the colour.
Second or third generation Londoners will be as London as Danny Dyer.

QUOTE]

If that is the case then why are non-white, British people born and raised, being radicalised and actively attacking Britain? They will not be as London as Danny Dyer, eventually they will reach a critical mass and assert themselves.

I don't think people will realise this until it is too late.

RichardCeann

Mesrine65 wrote: »

There is a price to pay for a countries colonial & imperialistic past , as you sow so shall you reap...

So mass immigration from outside of the EU is a form of penance for colonialism? Will Europeans have to continuously flay themselves for the sins of their ancestors until eternity? Only eight of the twenty eight EU member states colonised developing world countries. Can the other twenty of us opt out of all this?

Mesrine65

Mesrine65 wrote: »

There is a price to pay for a countries colonial & imperialistic past , as you sow so shall you reap...

Says who exactly?

Anyway, I don't remember reading in the history books about Ireland's imperialistic past, yet last time I walked down Parnell Street or the south circular road in Dublin I felt like I was a stranger in my own country.

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

kneemos wrote: »

The only thing changing is the colour.
Second or third generation Londoners will be as London as Danny Dyer.

QUOTE]

If that is the case then why are non-white, British people born and raised, being radicalised and actively attacking Britain? They will not be as London as Danny Dyer, eventually they will reach a critical mass and assert themselves.

I don't think people will realise this until it is too late.

So it's Muslims you're talking about?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

The point is - ethnic whites were never consulted about whether to allow wide scale immigration.

And that's just so unfair after the centuries white people spent debating with the Aztecs, Indigenous Australians, Africans and so on as to whether they minded the white man landing in.

Demographics change. I love the people who run around hoping that, after all the millennia, this simple fact would now change and everything would stop right now. Like King Canute running around that beach.

Bubbaclaus

Oh noes, my neighbours have a different skin colour to me. The end is near.

[/sarcasm]

Having a multicultural society is a good thing. I just don't understand people that consider it a negative.

The Sun King

Aren't the stats showing a tiny, tiny % of people in Europe being from outside Europe?

Genocide.. Right..

R P McMurphy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Says who exactly?

Anyway, I don't remember reading in the history books about Ireland's imperialistic past, yet last time I walked down Parnell Street or the south circular road in Dublin I felt like I was a stranger in my own country.

Jaysus Parnell st has improved dramatically in the last decade, at least it had an interesting feel to it now, not just one of impending doom

Alexis Sanchez

Mesrine65 wrote: »

There is a price to pay for a countries colonial & imperialistic past , as you sow so shall you reap...

This stupid argument again. Why should modern Europeans be punished for their ancestor's crimes? If your grandfather was a rapist, does that make you a rapist? Should you get punished for crimes committed by your descendants?

Furthermore, what 3rd world countries did Ireland colonise? Does that mean Ireland is exempt from the EU's multiculturalism project because we never colonised a non-European part of the world?

RichardCeann

Deleted User wrote: »

Demographics change. I love the people who run around hoping that, after all the millennia, this simple fact would now change and everything would stop right now. Like King Canute running around that beach.

The demographics of Western and Northern Europe are changing at an extraordinarily rapid pace. Including this country. Surely the natives of these countries should be consulted about this.

Current immigration rates are completely unsustainable. A new eurobarometer was released on Friday and it shows us that immigration is now the most important issue according to Europeans. Obviously the people of Europe are not too happy with this rate of change.

Immigration is the most pressing concern for Europeans, overtaking the economic situation and unemployment, according to a new Eurobarometer survey.

Thirty-eight percent of Europeans regard immigration as their main policy priority, the spring Eurobarometer poll published on Friday (31 July) found, a 14 point increase from last autumn.

Immigration seen as the major challenge facing the EU

Asking citizens about their main concerns, immigration is now at the top of the most frequently cited topics at EU level. With 38% (+14 points) it is now way ahead of the economic situation (27%, -6 points), unemployment (24%, -5 points) and the Member States public finances (23%, -2 points). It is the number one most frequently cited concern in 20 Member States reaching peaks in Malta (65%) and Germany (55%). Concern for terrorism at EU level has also increased significantly since November 2014 (17%, +6 points) (see Annex 1).

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-15-5451_en.htm

Nonsense about coffin ships, paying penance for colonialism and 'ah sure demographics change, you can't do anything' will not alleviate peoples valid concerns and reservations.

Sham Squire

Racist claptrap being dressed up as debate. Why even differentiate by colour? It's completely arbitrary and meaningless. Unless, of course, you're a racist. I don't expect to change anybodys mind, just feel it's important to call this stuff out for what it is.

Boring username

kneemos wrote: »

The only thing changing is the colour.
Second or third generation Londoners will be as London as Danny Dyer.

The melodramatic video seems obsessed with colour,it doesn't necessarily mean a change of culture.

That isn't the case though, cultural practices inevitably comes into it too. Some of it good, some of it bad, and some of it utterly repugnant.

Labour MP Khalid Mahmood says 2,000 jihadists have travelled to Syria and Iraq from the UK - a fourfold increase on official estimates
Khalid Mahmood, England’s first Muslim MP and a former member of the Commons home affairs committee.
As many as 2,000 Britons are fighting alongside Islamist militants in Syria and Iraq, a senior Muslim MP has claimed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11248114/Muslim-MP-2000-Britons-fighting-for-Islamic-State.html

Mesrine65

RichardCeann wrote: »

So mass immigration from outside of the EU is a form of penance for colonialism? Will Europeans have to continuously flay themselves for the sins of their ancestors until eternity? Only eight of the twenty eight EU member states colonised developing world countries. Can the other twenty of us opt out of all this?

Deleted User wrote: »

Says who exactly?

Anyway, I don't remember reading in the history books about Ireland's imperialistic past, yet last time I walked down Parnell Street or the south circular road in Dublin I felt like I was a stranger in my own country.

I was referring to some of our european neighbours & their past colonial endeavours eg., France, UK, Belgium, Germany, Spain, Portugal etc.

To each & every action, there is an equal & opposite reaction...

The former colonies descendants are coming home to roost & why shouldn't they?

Sham Squire

Alexis Sanchez wrote: »

This stupid argument again. Why should modern Europeans be punished for their ancestor's crimes?

Your perspective is very interesting. Immigration is punishment? That's a lovely inclusive and selfless attitude you've got there. So you own the country you were lucky enough to be born in because...? Yeah, exactly, you don't. You were lucky enough to be born in a first world (relatively) wealthy country. It's not yours to decide who can and can't share it with you. This kind of thinking always reaches it's logical conclusion in one place. And we've been there before. It was called World War 2.

Alexis Sanchez

Alexis Sanchez wrote: »

This stupid argument again. Why should modern Europeans be punished for their ancestor's crimes? If your grandfather was a rapist, does that make you a rapist?

You see changing demographics as "punishment"!!

Good Lord.

Anyway, no, no one should be punished for a rape by their grandfather. But when they get all moany and flap their hands about rape, it's valid to politely observe that their grandfather was a rapist.

RichardCeann

He was replying to a poster who claims that non EU immigration into Europe is the chickens coming home to roost for colonialism. Then you jump down his neck when he asks if immigration is a form of punishment.

Impressive stuff, lads.

donegaLroad

Mesrine65 wrote: »

I was referring to some of our european neighbours & their past colonial endeavours eg., France, UK, Belgium, Germany, Spain, Portugal etc.

To each & every action, there is an equal & opposite reaction...

The former colonies descendants are coming home to roost & why shouldn't they?

yes but what I think Wojtek was saying is that sudden influx of different cultures to a country is not exclusive to countries with a colonial past.

Ireland does not have a colonial past, yet we became a very different country in the space of ten years.

As much as I am for multi-cultural society, I can see how large scale migration can create problems if it is not done gradually, and properly planned for.

Mesrine65

Mesrine65 wrote: »

There is a price to pay for a countries colonial & imperialistic past , as you sow so shall you reap...

Although I'd qualify this by pointing out it's the economic system which developed under colonialism which needs cheap exploitable labour; in the old days they went and occupied a country and exploited the people but when that became too expensive (due to political insurrection) they brought select members of those countries to the "mother country" to exploit along with the native working class whose salaries were kept low by competition from poor foreigners.

The powerful in the economic system have an insatiable appetite for profiting from immigrants and that is the problem, that and the "no such thing as society" ideology of Thatcher and her followers.

RichardCeann

Sham Squire wrote: »

Your perspective is very interesting. Immigration is punishment? That's a lovely inclusive and selfless attitude you've got there. So you own the country you were lucky enough to be born in because...? Yeah, exactly, you don't. You were lucky enough to be born in a first world (relatively) wealthy country. It's not yours to decide who can and can't share it with you. This kind of thinking always reaches it's logical conclusion in one place. And we've been there before. It was called World War 2.

There was no accident in me being born in Ireland. My lineage goes way back here. There is absolutely no way, that I could have been born in my current form, in the developing world.

And the natives of Europe are absolutely entitled to decide on who gets to live here by demanding more stringent immigration policies.

corner of hells

Deleted User wrote: »

I came across this youtube video that I think should be worth a look in order to stimulate discussion as it is certainly thought provoking.

The opening minutes show news reports from fairly mainstream news networks with reports of ethnic white European cultures becoming minorities in their major cities and in some cases countries.

The point is - ethnic whites were never consulted about whether to allow wide scale immigration. There was never any referendum passed on this major issue, one which changes the make up of a country irreversibly and in some cases dangerously.

I think it's worth a look and before you dismiss it as racist (inevitable), I will fully concede that the word "genocide" was poorly chosen but I think it was done to capture the imagination and nothing more. The fact is, white people will become minorities in Europe in the near future, and how long after that will it be before they become extinct altogether?

What exactly is "an ethnic white " ?

RichardCeann

RichardCeann wrote: »

And the natives of Europe are absolutely entitled to decide on who gets to live here by demanding more stringent immigration policies.

Precisely, but by not focusing on the rich and powerful in their own country who have brought in immigrants in large numbers to keep their costs down (and the salaries of their indigenous poor), they are all missing the elephant in the room.

Mesrine65

donegaLroad wrote: »

yes but what I think Wojtek was saying is that sudden influx of different cultures to a country is not exclusive to countries with a colonial past.

Ireland does not have a colonial past, yet we became a very different country in the space of ten years.

As much as I am for multi-cultural society, I can see how large scale migration can create problems if it is not done gradually, and properly planned for.

Agreed 100%

We may not have a colonial past, but when we signed up to the EU we became subject to their edicts.

Multiculturalism & all it entails is a direct result of our acceptance of EU mandates.

RichardCeann

corner of hells wrote: »

What exactly is "an ethnic white " ?

Someone of predominantly European descent.

corner of hells

RichardCeann wrote: »

Someone of predominantly European descent.

So Caucasian ?

RichardCeann

RichardCeann wrote: »

He was replying to a poster who claims that non EU immigration into Europe is the chickens coming home to roost for colonialism. Then you jump down his neck when he asks if immigration is a form of punishment.

Impressive stuff, lads.

Yes, as you rightly say he likened immigration to punishment, and people responded to the patent silliness.

No need to repeat it, I suspect he's tiptoeing away from a terrible point.

Skylinehead

Deleted User wrote: »

The point is - ethnic whites were never consulted about whether to allow wide scale immigration. There was never any referendum passed on this major issue, one which changes the make up of a country irreversibly and in some cases dangerously.

Is immigration in our constitution? If not (it's not), then why would we have a referendum? Vote for an anti-immigration party if it bothers you that much, it's how a democracy works.

Mesrine65

RichardCeann wrote: »

Someone of predominantly European descent.

corner of hells wrote: »

So Caucasian ?

Italian, Spanish & Portugese nationals are of european descent & people of colour...

Would they be considered 'ethnic whites'?

corner of hells

Mesrine65 wrote: »

Italian, Spanish & Portugese nationals are of european descent & people of colour...

Would they be considered 'ethnic whites'?

I dunno , that's what I was wondering about.

Links234

What the ****? Did I take a wrong turn and end up in stormfront? :eek:

corner of hells

Links234 wrote: »

What the ****? Did I take a wrong turn and end up in stormfront? :eek:

****estorm ?

QuinDixie

It is nice to live in a country that has little inward immigration, especially you know who. And long may it continue.

Sham Squire

It's nice to live in a country that has no credible far-right/nazi party.

riffmongous

It's funny how it's now a 'white european' thing, I'm sure most of the people complaining now are the same ones who would have been fearmongering about the eastern europeans in the early 2000s Or remember that romanian deluge that was going to wipe out british culture only a few years ago? But now they are all proud white europeans :rolleyes:

The Randy Riverbeast

Immigrants who dont integrate are bad but those who do are also bad?

Cuban Pete

Links234 wrote: »

What the ****? Did I take a wrong turn and end up in stormfront? :eek:

This really is a low point for AH. People talking about "ethnic whites" isn't even barely a step above Stormfront, it's the same racial purity bull**** they spout.

riffmongous

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

Immigrants who dont integrate are bad but those who do are also bad?

The problem seems to be that you cant integrate your skin colour

LordSutch

Deleted User wrote: »

Says who exactly?

Anyway, I don't remember reading in the history books about Ireland's imperialistic past, yet last time I walked down Parnell Street or the south circular road in Dublin I felt like I was a stranger in my own country.

Indeed there is very little about our part in Empire building, but is is often said that the Irish fought for it, the Welsh and Scots administered it, and the English lost it! (or words to that effect). The reference seems to have gone from WiKi :cool:

Gbear

The only ongoing issue at the moment is that different cultures are still quite divided in countries with large amounts of immigration.

I think that's especially true of countries that have more recently become immigration destinations, like Ireland.

I only hope that descendants of immigrants become as integrated into their adopted countries as much as the Irish, Germans and Italians did in the US.

Once upon a time the Irish were regarded as a human plague descending upon civilised society but now something like 1/6th of Americans can lay claim to Irish ancestry.
It's probably a similar situation in the UK.

The trend in society is that we're becoming pretty much better in every way - wealthier, healthier, better educated and so on.
As that continues, I'd imagine that the tribalism along racial and religious lines will eventually dissolve, not least because exceptionalism based on those criteria will be undermined.

MRnotlob606

As a comfortable liberal, anybody who disagrees with me is a fascist.

QuinDixie

Sham Squire wrote: »

It's nice to live in a country that has no credible far-right/nazi party.

Exactly, hopefully inward immigration stays low and this trend can continue.

Sham Squire

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

As a comfortable liberal, anybody who disagrees with me is a fascist.

And when the disagreement actually centres on fascism? Yes, that would actually make one side fascist. Great point.

Sham Squire

QuinDixie wrote: »

Exactly, hopefully inward immigration stays low and this trend can continue.

Troll-tastic. Where's the thumbs up emoji again?

Icepick

Deleted User wrote: »

I came across this youtube video that I think should be worth a look in order to stimulate discussion as it is certainly thought provoking.

The opening minutes show news reports from fairly mainstream news networks with reports of ethnic white European cultures becoming minorities in their major cities and in some cases countries.

The point is - ethnic whites were never consulted about whether to allow wide scale immigration. There was never any referendum passed on this major issue, one which changes the make up of a country irreversibly and in some cases dangerously.

I think it's worth a look and before you dismiss it as racist (inevitable), I will fully concede that the word "genocide" was poorly chosen but I think it was done to capture the imagination and nothing more. The fact is, white people will become minorities in Europe in the near future, and how long after that will it be before they become extinct altogether?

And the colour of people's skin 100s years from now matters why?
Humanity may not even exist any more for all we know.

Fratton Fred

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If that is the case then why are non-white, British people born and raised, being radicalised and actively attacking Britain? They will not be as London as Danny Dyer, eventually they will reach a critical mass and assert themselves.

I don't think people will realise this until it is too late.

Young men like Ashley Cole, Moeen Ali or Sol Campbell?

Cienciano

Deleted User wrote: »

Says who exactly?

Anyway, I don't remember reading in the history books about Ireland's imperialistic past, yet last time I walked down Parnell Street or the south circular road in Dublin I felt like I was a stranger in my own country.

I walk around those areas too and theres lots of foreigners. But strangely enough, its the Irish people I'd be worried about

QuinDixie

Sham Squire wrote: »

Troll-tastic. Where's the thumbs up emoji again?

Sarcasm, the refuge of the poster that has been owned.

Wright

All normal, sane, non-prejudiced people in this thread.

Don't even bother. You are never going to change these people's minds and all you'll get yourselves in warning's from mods that you don't deserve. This thread is Stormfront material. Ignore it, post a rolleyes if you must, but wading in will get you nowhere I'm afraid

Sham Squire

QuinDixie wrote: »

Sarcasm, the refuge of the poster that has been owned.

You're gas.