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Do you have a pension?

  • 06-08-2015 06:00PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Was sitting around at work talking about it, I was the only one of my colleagues to have one set up, and contributing the maximum, why is there such disregard in the Irish population towards private pensions? The state one wont provide the greatest of living standards yet people put it off, even into their forties:eek:

    Do you have a pension? 707 votes

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    I just do the lotto every week instead
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    I've a more solid financial plan, die young.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    Yeah, they don't do a pension scheme in my current workplace (they did in my last job) so I set up my personal private pension when I was 25. I only pay about 120 euro a month into it, but sure it's better than nothing. I'll increase the payments when I hit 30 and again every 5 years after that. That's the plan anyway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 367 ✭✭justchecked


    Sell the gaff and rent for the last decade or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Yeah, they don't do a pension scheme in my current workplace (they did in my last job) so I set up my personal private pension when I was 25. I only pay about 120 euro a month into it, but sure it's better than nothing. I'll increase the payments when I hit 30 and again every 5 years after that. That's the plan anyway.

    cut back on booze fags and lube, and get that contribution up to 15%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Yep, paying into it since I was 21, if I kick the bucket before I can collect I'm gonna haunt the fcuk out of the buck that sold me it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Why can't I have a pension but also throw my money away with the Lotto?

    (That's what I do.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Gone West


    I manage my own investments.
    These pension funds will probably be fu*cked by the time we are 75 and at retirement age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    Yeah, they don't do a pension scheme in my current workplace (they did in my last job) so I set up my personal private pension when I was 25. I only pay about 120 euro a month into it, but sure it's better than nothing. I'll increase the payments when I hit 30 and again every 5 years after that. That's the plan anyway.

    You are significantly better off overpaying in to it now, than reducing your payments in a few years. Than paying more into it, when are close to retirement. The way interest works, you are better over paying now

    Im young, so Ill have to have a private pension. No one in Government has admitted, than in a few generations, we are ****ed for pensions. The Government is paying current pensions with current PRSI payments. Its not taking into account, that there will be a fraction of tax payers to pensioners in a few decades

    Plus its ****ed up in Ireland, that your pensions arent linked to your income. If quite unfair that some on 100k a year, gets the same pension as someone who earned 10k per year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I'm in the public sector and so will have a state pension (boo hiss...yeah yeah what ever) I also have two 'with profits' savings funds which are doing extremely well and have been since I started them in 2000, they've averaged between 27 and 36% in bonuses since the start with everything earned to date including my premiums guaranteed on maturity. They'll give me a nice nest egg on retirement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I've a more solid financial plan, die young.
    Live fast and die young-ish. That's how all the cool kids go.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    One will always have one's monthly allowance from the trust funds and also a meagre income from the thousand acres farm at the back of the house:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I paid between 8 and 12% of my salary in to one for 35 years and retired at 55. Large lump sum and a very decent monthly payment ever since. Get in early and contribute as much as you can. Just remember it's a long term investment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    I've had one since 21, paying in 5% which the employer matches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    anyone in their 20's or 30's who hasn't is boned.

    the state pension is almost certainly going to be significantly lower if retiring around 2050 vs the rates enjoyed today
    its 50% unfunded as it is & thats just going to get worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Yeah, I have a pension, had it for a good while now. Having a pension plan and owning my home was always important to me.

    I would fear getting old, having to pay rent whilst depending on the state for cash. No way our generation will be looked after by the state at anything above a very basic level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Fuzzy wrote: »
    I manage my own investments.
    These pension funds will probably be fu*cked by the time we are 75 and at retirement age.

    I agree, too many people have lost a lot by blindly following pension plans. So I'm only too glad to look after it for myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭sinead88


    I work in the UK where it's become mandatory to pay into a pension if you're employed. It was set up for me by my employer with Standard Life. I only pay about 2%, but could choose to increase it if I wanted. I think it goes up a percentage for each year I'm paying it too. I'm actually glad it came in, because i never would have thought to set one up myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    I agree, too many people have lost a lot by blindly following pension plans. So I'm only too glad to look after it for myself.

    Just wondering, do you have to invest your money in only pension funds to get a pension tax break?
    Or can you manager your own 'fund', invest it as you wish and also get the tax break?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Lilian CoolS Ballerina


    Yeah I have one I think I pay 8% and employer matches a few percent of it
    Definitely a necessity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭caff


    Yep, paying into it since I was 21, if I kick the bucket before I can collect I'm gonna haunt the fcuk out of the buck that sold me it.

    If you die early it pays out a lump some to next of kin, think all schemes do that anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭caff


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Where do people find out about all this stuff? Do they teach it in college now?

    All I remember is that when I started working they took some of my wages every fortnight. It could be all gone now for all I know.
    You should get a yearly statement of how your scheme is doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭cactusgal


    Yes. I didn't start it until age 32, so I put in €240 a month. No contribution from employer. I'm one of the few at work who has one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    Have had one since I started working. Currently manage to put low five figures a year into it which should be enough for a while.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    caff wrote: »
    If you die early it pays out a lump some to next of kin, think all schemes do that anyway.

    Fck all good that is to Backwardsman when he is 6 feet under...which is why he would come back to haunt the salesman!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    anyone in their 20's or 30's who hasn't is boned.

    the state pension is almost certainly going to be significantly lower if retiring around 2050 vs the rates enjoyed today
    its 50% unfunded as it is & thats just going to get worse.

    Not alone will the state pension be the under threat, public sector ones will be as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭caff


    Menas wrote: »
    Just wondering, do you have to invest your money in only pension funds to get a pension tax break?
    Or can you manager your own 'fund', invest it as you wish and also get the tax break?

    It has to be an approved scheme by the pensions board and department revenue. Some schemes are flexible enough to allow you to choose the allocation of funds within it, most common of this type would be a PRSA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭caff


    Menas wrote: »
    Fck all good that is to Backwardsman when he is 6 feet under...which is why he would come back to haunt the salesman!

    Just making it clear that the money wouldn't be wasted if the contributor dies before claiming it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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