My local Tesco letting chuggers in

One More Toy

I see this has now started at my local tesco express, and I honestly am thinking of giving up going. Amnesty chuggers were there today and did the whole "How are you man" ****e with me, since when did this start?

OldMrBrennan83

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F1ngers

One More Toy wrote: »

I see this has now started at my local tesco express, and I honestly am thinking of giving up going. Amnesty chuggers were there today and did the whole "How are you man" ****e with me, since when did this start?

Today.
You said so in your post:

Amnesty chuggers were there today

One More Toy

F1ngers wrote: »

Today.
You said so in your post:

Har Har Har


Just wondering is this a widespread thing? Really really annoying

dudara

If you find it annoying, make a complaint to the Tesco store manager.

foggy_lad

If I was in a shop or supermarket pub etc and got some person rattling a bucket under my nose i would tell them loud enough for staff to hear to "get that f**kin bucket out of my face and get out of my way!"

GerardKeating

One More Toy wrote: »

I see this has now started at my local tesco express, and I honestly am thinking of giving up going. Amnesty chuggers were there today and did the whole "How are you man" ****e with me, since when did this start?

On and off for years, normally "local" ones, Girls Hockey Club, Swim/GAA/Soccer etc.

Never seen a "political" one, don't mind collecting for "good causes" but politics.

wmpdd3

Do you mean the guys that want you to sign
direct debits? Are then inside the store or outside.

I don't think there is much they can do if they are on the street. Locally I see they are outside closed ships that are beside busy shops.

TheDoc

Interesting to know if OP is talking about genuine chuggers looking for reoccurring payment details, or if its people at the end of the till with a bucket. If the latter, lighten up I'd say.

Charities and local fundraisers have been using their local supermarkets for decades, and its not an inconvenience to anyone.

Uncle Ben

wmpdd3 wrote: »

Do you mean the guys that want you to sign
direct debits? Are then inside the store or outside.

I don't think there is much they can do if they are on the street. Locally I see they are outside closed ships that are beside busy shops.

Dogs Trust direct debit chuggers were inside the hall of Dunnes Stores Roscommon on Saturday. They didn't want a donation, just a dd of from 50 cents per day would do, thanks very nicely.

I put the €5 back in my pocket and wondered how many more people were prepared to put a few quid into a bucket?

Ken.

Tesco in Newbridge had barnardos people inside the store last week. Just behind the checkout nearest the door. They were stopping everyone and asking them to sign up to a dd of €22 a month.

L1011

Uncle Ben wrote: »

Dogs Trust direct debit chuggers were inside the hall of Dunnes Stores Roscommon on Saturday. They didn't want a donation, just a dd of from 50 cents per day would do, thanks very nicely.

I put the €5 back in my pocket and wondered how many more people were prepared to put a few quid into a bucket?

These people usually work for an external firm, and get commission. The firm often gets close to the entire first years "donation" as their commission. This is why they don't want and can't take cash donations.

Horrible system, would never sign up that way even if I wanted to do a regular donation for a charity.

CiDeRmAn

I've taken part in bag packing in a local supermarket.
No one enjoys it, but its for a good cause.
Any and all money went straight to the cause and no premiums or costs were paid to anyone.
There was no pressure, you didn't want to engage you just say "no thanks" if asked if you wanted your bag packed.

When I'm shopping I see people engaging in the same and there are days when I go "feck" and more days when I take the help and throw a euro into the bucket.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I've taken part in bag packing in a local supermarket.
No one enjoys it, but its for a good cause.
Any and all money went straight to the cause and no premiums or costs were paid to anyone.
There was no pressure, you didn't want to engage you just say "no thanks" if asked if you wanted your bag packed.

When I'm shopping I see people engaging in the same and there are days when I go "feck" and more days when I take the help and throw a euro into the bucket.

Hardly Chuggers though!

Jayop

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I've taken part in bag packing in a local supermarket.
No one enjoys it, but its for a good cause.
Any and all money went straight to the cause and no premiums or costs were paid to anyone.
There was no pressure, you didn't want to engage you just say "no thanks" if asked if you wanted your bag packed.

When I'm shopping I see people engaging in the same and there are days when I go "feck" and more days when I take the help and throw a euro into the bucket.

That's totally different. As you say the full amount of money goes to the cause and I've only ever seen bag packs organised by local charities. These professional chuggers that claim to be doing it for charity when only a small fraction of the money actually goes to help people are a disgrace and that form of harassment should be banned. I've seen them following people around really giving them grief. I'm quick enough to tell them firmly to piss off, but clearly their method works on enough gullible/vulnerable people to be able to pay these people to do this. Shameless.

OldMrBrennan83

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looksee

Even if I refuse help I always throw a donation into the bucket. I do hate people messing around with my groceries though, I would much rather pack them myself. I have found that if I say 'I'm ok thank you' you can bet there is some busybody in the queue making tutting noises if you refuse help. What really is irritating though is when you choose a checkout with no packers and one comes wandering over from another checkout to 'help'. Yes I know, I have little to be irritated about.

Jayop

looksee wrote: »

Even if I refuse help I always throw a donation into the bucket. I do hate people messing around with my groceries though, I would much rather pack them myself. I have found that if I say 'I'm ok thank you' you can bet there is some busybody in the queue making tutting noises if you refuse help. What really is irritating though is when you choose a checkout with no packers and one comes wandering over from another checkout to 'help'. Yes I know, I have little to be irritated about.

I'm the same. There's a right way and a wrong way to pack groceries and everyone else does it the wrong way. I'll still throw a quid in the bucket.

DivingDuck

How to deal with chuggers: tell them you're prohibited from holding a bank account owing to some previous financial irregularities. But really, the money had been just resting in your account...!

That should get them off your back.

sdanseo

Chugging and bag packing are different things. If the bag packers are willing to help me out, I'll normally throw in a donation, because no supermarket packs your bags any more like they should do.

As for chuggers - I've been known to politely ask them to get out of my way if they get in it. There's no excuse for harassing people and it should be completely illegal.

Manach

People like baggers who offer an optional service, grand in that is helpful.

Those seeking bank details for their version of the good cause, within the precincts of a shopping area where one is harried enough by commersialism, not so grand.

Jayop

Manach wrote: »

People like baggers who offer an optional service, grand in that is helpful.

Those seeking bank details for their version of the good cause, within the precincts of a shopping area where one is harried enough by commersialism, not so grand.

Even people with buckets outside shops collecting for local charities without helping with anything is fine with me. Church gate collections and the likes. As someone who's involved with fundraising and who's given up a lot of my free time selling lotto tickets in bars for a local club I think these are valuable community services and people should support where they can.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

DivingDuck wrote: »

How to deal with chuggers: tell them you're prohibited from holding a bank account owing to some previous financial irregularities. But really, the money had been just resting in your account...!

That should get them off your back.

Handier to just say No. Works for me every time.

hdowney

There was a time last year and earlier this where you couldn't walk into my local Tesco without the Barnardos chuggers there hounding you. Drive me crazy

Jayop

Houston Proud Drunk wrote: »

Handier to just say No. Works for me every time.

Doesn't work for everyone though. Sometimes they really harass people if they smell vulnerability in them.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Jayop wrote: »

Doesn't work for everyone though. Sometimes they really harass people if they smell vulnerability in them.

I just keep walking and avoid eye contact. What vulnerability do they smell?

Jayop

Houston Proud Drunk wrote: »

I just keep walking and avoid eye contact. What vulnerability do they smell?

I remember seeing somewhere a program about people who have almost been bankrupted by these charities they end up with so many DDs set up as they can't say no. They then feel too guilty about the poor children or the poor dogs or the poor tape worms to cancel the DDs.

Surely it's ONLY the vulnerable who will choose to set up a DD with someone they just met on the street.

the groutch

when people say IN Tesco, they most likely mean near Tesco, but beyond the tills.
so it's likely with the approval of the centre management, and Tesco themselves may have nothing to do with it.

dubscottie

They have been in Tesco Rathmines the last two times Ive been in. Some animal crowd and amnesty.

Both times was late morning when most of the customers are elderly. Unless this is a new tactic.

One More Toy

dubscottie wrote: »

They have been in Tesco Rathmines the last two times Ive been in. Some animal crowd and amnesty.

Both times was late morning when most of the customers are elderly. Unless this is a new tactic.

Same tesco I was talking about

I dont mind bag packers, as that is a handy service! But chugger Bástards looking for bank details? I tell them where to go

haveringchick

Regarding the bag packing, VDP or Simon is a local charity. Ballygogrubby Junior Basketball club want to build a new clubhouse/take the kids to a tournament in Liverpool is NOT a charity. If you let your kids join a club pay your own way and don't be begging and pestering your neighbours at the till in the supermarket

Calhoun

haveringchick wrote: »

Regarding the bag packing, VDP or Simon is a local charity. Ballygogrubby Junior Basketball club want to build a new clubhouse/take the kids to a tournament in Liverpool is NOT a charity. If you let your kids join a club pay your own way and don't be begging and pestering your neighbours at the till in the supermarket

I don't mind this some of the time but seems in some places it's all the time. Chugging however no way I would entertain them.

Jayop

haveringchick wrote: »

Regarding the bag packing, VDP or Simon is a local charity. Ballygogrubby Junior Basketball club want to build a new clubhouse/take the kids to a tournament in Liverpool is NOT a charity. If you let your kids join a club pay your own way and don't be begging and pestering your neighbours at the till in the supermarket

If you own a home in an area and there's facilities being built that will increase your house price then yeah you should be chipping in. God love you if you can't spare a quid when people are giving up hours upon hours every week volunteering doing coaching etc, and then they have to stand like spare pricks packing your bags for you.

Calhoun

Jayop wrote: »

If you own a home in an area and there's facilities being built that will increase your house price then yeah you should be chipping in. God love you if you can't spare a quid when people are giving up hours upon hours every week volunteering doing coaching etc, and then they have to stand like spare pricks packing your bags for you.

Id rather they not touch my stuff if I don't want them to, shopping in a retailers is not some sort of philanthropic excersize it's a business arrangement between a shopper and retailer, it should never be assumed that people are there to be bled dry.

Jayop

Calhoun wrote: »

Id rather they not touch my stuff if I don't want them to, shopping in a retailers is not some sort of philanthropic excersize it's a business arrangement between a shopper and retailer, it should never be assumed that people are there to be bled dry.

I prefer to pack my own bags too but a euro is hardly going to bleed you dry and if you're too miserable to help out clubs that are run by volunteers then simply don't bother.

doolox

I really resent that sports clubs seem to think it is OK to beg for money at tills but my hobby, music, has to be paid out of my own resources and I have to pay VAT on all my purchases, books instruments etc....

As mentioned above I would view St VDP etc as charities but anything else, political pressure groups, sporting groups etc can go swing.

Also DD seekers get a big fat NO.

I am not vulnerable and I am proud to refuse people either at a check out or entrance regardless of they being neighbours or strangers etc.

A period of time on the dole quickly leaches the pride out of one.

Jayop

doolox wrote: »

I really resent that sports clubs seem to think it is OK to beg for money at tills but my hobby, music, has to be paid out of my own resources and I have to pay VAT on all my purchases, books instruments etc....

As mentioned above I would view St VDP etc as charities but anything else, political pressure groups, sporting groups etc can go swing.

Also DD seekers get a big fat NO.

I am not vulnerable and I am proud to refuse people either at a check out or entrance regardless of they being neighbours or strangers etc.

A period of time on the dole quickly leaches the pride out of one.

erm...Buskers?

Also, I've seen music community groups raising cash for instruments for kids etc so not sure your post has any basis in reality.

Calhoun

Jayop wrote: »

I prefer to pack my own bags too but a euro is hardly going to bleed you dry and if you're too miserable to help out clubs that are run by volunteers then simply don't bother.

Nothing to do with being miserable , if it was something done every once in a while maybe but some places it's every week.

Also what does being a volunteer have to do with it let the parents pay for it if they want it for their kids.

Jayop

Calhoun wrote: »

Nothing to do with being miserable , if it was something done every once in a while maybe but some places it's every week.

Also what does being a volunteer have to do with it let the parents pay for it if they want it for their kids.

So bleed the parents dry? My kids are in the gaa and soccer club, we pay their annual membership, we support every thing they do, we pay weekly costs to pay for training, we buy equipment but the clubs are expensive to run.

Like I said, if you can't see your way to throwing a quid in a bucket to help people who work really hard to provide services for kids then you could be the problem. I'd rather not have your money if you'd begrudge it that much.

Calhoun

Jayop wrote: »

So bleed the parents dry? My kids are in the gaa and soccer club, we pay their annual membership, we support every thing they do, we pay weekly costs to pay for training, we buy equipment but the clubs are expensive to run.

Like I said, if you can't see your way to throwing a quid in a bucket to help people who work really hard to provide services for kids then you could be the problem. I'd rather not have your money if you'd begrudge it that much.

Exactly that's the spirit, parents should bear the brunt of allot of the cost as it's the extra curricular activity they want their kids to take part in. If the groups coming into shopping centres were moderated and it wasn't all the time I'd have more patiences but it seems to be a regular occurrence these days most weekends.

It's nearly as bad as the lads coming in selling for the weekly lotto when your trying to have a pint.

Jayop

Don't buy it so. Have you ever volunteered for anything in your life or are you one of the ones that does nothing but complains about everything else?

Calhoun

I have of course but it was for charitable organisations, haven't been involved with the gaa at all.

The difference being it was a charity compared to a club which is the point others have made.

Jayop

Calhoun wrote: »

I have of course but it was for charitable organisations, haven't been involved with the gaa at all.

The difference being it was a charity compared to a club which is the point others have made.

What is the difference.?

I think it's really just you that's pointed that out, maybe one other but not others.

dubscottie

The only charity I will give money to is the RNLI. Give them bags of leftover ££ coins (2p 10p etc) that I would not get rid of otherwise.

I worked it out that a chugger needs to sign up 23? (while since I did the sums) people a day to cover the cost of the wages.

I wont give to GAA clubs as I have been told they are corrupt. Little johnny's parents did not raise enough money so he is on the bench...

Calhoun

The difference between a well funded sports organisation and a charitable organisation who supports people in need?

Nah I didn't make the point first .

Jayop

Calhoun wrote: »

The difference between a well funded sports organisation and a charitable organisation who supports people in need?

Nah I didn't make the point first .

Well funded?

You really have not a single clue. I'm heavily involved in a country soccer club that has about 150 juvenile players and we've never received a penny from the government, leader, the fai, the lotto, cross border, county council, fas or anyone else.

The only money we get is donations and memberships.

Well funded doesn't happen unless you have a fg minister in your parish.

Calhoun

Jayop wrote: »

Well funded?

You really have not a single clue. I'm heavily involved in a country soccer club that has about 150 juvenile players and we've never received a penny from the government, leader, the fai, the lotto, cross border, county council, fas or anyone else.

The only money we get is donations and memberships.

Well funded doesn't happen unless you have a fg minister in your parish.

I was referring to the GAA/FAI themselves, I don't see why more funds can't be diverted downward.

Regardless the shopping public don't owe either organisations grass roots anything.

Jayop

The fai has very little to do with grass roots football. They give nothing.

haveringchick

Jayop wrote: »

If you own a home in an area and there's facilities being built that will increase your house price then yeah you should be chipping in. God love you if you can't spare a quid when people are giving up hours upon hours every week volunteering doing coaching etc, and then they have to stand like spare pricks packing your bags for you.

I don't live in Ballygogrubby but my urban Tesco is the nearest for them. Their new clubhouse is of no benefit to anybody but their members. Their weekend in Liverpool is certainly only of benefit to them. It's begging or even demanding money with menaces.

hdowney

the groutch wrote:

when people say IN Tesco, they most likely mean near Tesco, but beyond the tills. so it's likely with the approval of the centre management, and Tesco themselves may have nothing to do with it.

My tesco is just a tesco. Not a shopping centre or anything. There is a foyer area and then the main shop. They do be in the foyer. Nearly every Damn week. To the point where I know for a fact that a bucket collection group got told they couldn't have their annual fundraising collection cos there were too many groups in the foyer. No. Just Barnardos. And tesco th st was because YOU let them every Damn week.

Jayop

haveringchick wrote: »

I don't live in Ballygogrubby but my urban Tesco is the nearest for them. Their new clubhouse is of no benefit to anybody but their members. Their weekend in Liverpool is certainly only of benefit to them. It's begging or even demanding money with menaces.

It's not begging, you need a new dictionary.

Also what menaces? If they're in any way menacing towards people who don't donate then it's a disgrace, but I suspect they just politely offer to pack shopping and if you refuse they say ok.