Force Fed Boyfolk

BuilderPlumber

Looked at the paper today to see what was on TV this evening and I see a concert by boyfolk king Derek Ryan. All I can say is that I am not a fan. Why is this rubbish being force fed on us? Ireland's music scene is so poor at present it baffles. Boyfolk music by the likes of Ryan and Mike Denver is among the worst ever and its fake sound makes even the boybands that influenced them sound edgy by comparison.

Stheno

As I've never heard of it it's not being forced on me anyway

Who or what in the f*ck is boyfolk and why should I care? In 140 characters or less.

The Backwards Man

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Looked at the paper today to see what was on TV this evening and I see a concert by boyfolk king Derek Ryan. All I can say is that I am not a fan. Why is this rubbish being force fed on us? Ireland's music scene is so poor at present it baffles. Boyfolk music by the likes of Ryan and Mike Denver is among the worst ever and its fake sound makes even the boybands that influenced them sound edgy by comparison.

You'd love Clonmany Festival.

BuilderPlumber

Deleted User wrote: »

Who or what in the f*ck is boyfolk and why should I care? In 140 characters or less.

Bad Irish country music sung by ex boyband members or wannabe boyband members.

Stheno

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Who or what in the f*ck is boyfolk and why should I care? In 140 characters or less.

I thinnk the op might only have rte one and two?

GLaDOS

Change the channel maybe?

galljga1

Rock me baby like a wagon wheel.

Jordan 199

galljga1 wrote: »

wagon wheel.

It was ages since I last ate one of them :eek:

Ruu

Jordan 191 wrote: »

It was ages since I last ate one of them :eek:

Bastids made them smaller too.

secondattempt

It's not folk music by any stretch.

Cold War Kid

I've no willy.

eviltwin

Country and Irish. Who listens to it? Seriously, what would the typical fan of this guy be? Older person, teenagers?

NachoBusiness

Was hoping this would be about some weird female cult that had been caught force feeding young boys in Ohio.

Not to be.

DEFTLEFTHAND

eviltwin wrote: »

Country and Irish. Who listens to it? Seriously, what would the typical fan of this guy be? Older person, teenagers?

Middle aged housewives.

galljga1

eviltwin wrote: »

Country and Irish. Who listens to it? Seriously, what would the typical fan of this guy be? Older person, teenagers?

Dreadful stuff. It is the one genre of music that I simply cannot stand.

Crooked Jack

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Looked at the paper today to see what was on TV this evening and I see a concert by boyfolk king Derek Ryan. All I can say is that I am not a fan. Why is this rubbish being force fed on us? Ireland's music scene is so poor at present it baffles. Boyfolk music by the likes of Ryan and Mike Denver is among the worst ever and its fake sound makes even the boybands that influenced them sound edgy by comparison.

I've got zero time for this stuff myself but essentially your complaint is "why do other people like different stuff from me?"

galljga1

Ruu wrote: »

Bastids made them smaller too.

And not as nice. The same thing happened to curly wurlys.

fleet_admiral

I would love to kick mike denver square in the bollox

Crooked Jack

eviltwin wrote: »

Country and Irish. Who listens to it? Seriously, what would the typical fan of this guy be? Older person, teenagers?

It's bloody popular though. These fellas are just constantly touring the country, selling out every place theyre in. One of them was in Newry a while back and the photos in the paper had people of all ages there. I was particularly surprised at the amount of attractive young females. Made me consider putting up with the music next time one of them's about

BuilderPlumber

galljga1 wrote: »

Dreadful stuff. It is the one genre of music that I simply cannot stand.

Same here. I like most types of music and can see the purpose of other types of music that may not be my cup of tea such as modern pop. But the music I call boyfolk or modern Irish country is horrid. This and reality TV pretty much sums up all that is wrong in today's media.

Derek Ryan is probably the worst exponent of this 'music'. His original songs are beyond the musical definition of poor material.

thegreatgonzo

Nobody is force feeding you though? I'd never heard of that Derek fella until you mentioned him.

One eyed Jack

There was a Nathan Carter concert on tv there a few weeks back and I thought I wouldn't enjoy it at all, turns out I was pleasantly surprised

I wasn't the only one though as there were people of all ages young and old at the concert itself (in fact far more young women than ould ones, but an ould one did throw her bra on stage at one point! :pac:).

Just different people having different tastes in music really, a mate of mine listens to that stuff all the time and she's ten years younger than I am, loves her country music. I didn't really get it until I saw that Nathan Carter concert that time.



EDIT: There's no excuse for Crystal Swing though!

fancy pigeon

I thought the thread title was a euphemism for something else, or something disgusting I didn't want to know about... I was right :eek:

galljga1

One eyed Jack wrote: »

There was a Nathan Carter concert on tv there a few weeks back and I thought I wouldn't enjoy it at all, turns out I was pleasantly surprised

I wasn't the only one though as there were people of all ages young and old at the concert itself (in fact far more young women than ould ones, but an ould one did throw her bra on stage at one point! :pac:).

Just different people having different tastes in music really, a mate of mine listens to that stuff all the time and she's ten years younger than I am, loves her country music. I didn't really get it until I saw that Nathan Carter concert that time.



EDIT: There's no excuse for Crystal Swing though!

There is all sorts of wrong going on there.

osarusan

Stheno wrote: »

As I've never heard of it it's not being forced on me anyway

Seconded. Never heard of him either.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Bad Irish country music sung by ex boyband members or wannabe boyband members.

So it's basically the Special Olympics of music?

Stheno

galljga1 wrote: »

And not as nice. The same thing happened to curly wurlys.

The most heinous size drop was yorkies

Man sized my ass, more deformed midget sized now

BuilderPlumber

One eyed Jack wrote: »

There was a Nathan Carter concert on tv there a few weeks back and I thought I wouldn't enjoy it at all, turns out I was pleasantly surprised

I wasn't the only one though as there were people of all ages young and old at the concert itself (in fact far more young women than ould ones, but an ould one did throw her bra on stage at one point! :pac:).

Just different people having different tastes in music really, a mate of mine listens to that stuff all the time and she's ten years younger than I am, loves her country music. I didn't really get it until I saw that Nathan Carter concert that time.



EDIT: There's no excuse for Crystal Swing though!

Nathan Carter is a better performer than the likes of Derek Ryan that's for sure. I can listen to Carter's music and Crystal Swing are grand too. There is a natural feel about all these. There is charisma there. But Derek Ryan's stuff is bad. The fact that he lacks charisma has to be added too.

I have a broad taste in music and will listen to most anything. But Derek Ryan and Mike Denver I just don't get. To me, they offer nothing and there are much better artists in their genre as well.

BuilderPlumber

fleet_admiral wrote: »

I would love to kick mike denver square in the bollox

Some people think Louis Walsh did the most damage to Irish music. They are wrong. The real answer is Mike Denver. Since he came on the scene in 2003, a whole plethora of pop styled country has taken over. Derek Ryan may be the worst so far.

Zaph

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Crystal Swing are grand too.....There is charisma there.

charisma
kəˈrɪzmə/
noun: charisma; plural noun: charismata

1. compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.

2. a divinely conferred power or talent.

I had to look up the dictionary just to be sure that we're thinking about the same word. I'm not so sure we are.

The J Stands for Jay

Stheno wrote: »

The most heinous size drop was yorkies

Man sized my ass, more deformed midget sized now

And the Yorkie Duo, you'd expect to get 2 Yorkies, but they just have 2 specially made smaller Yorkies so you just get an extra square (or maybe two, I don't remember).

BuilderPlumber

Crooked Jack wrote: »

I've got zero time for this stuff myself but essentially your complaint is "why do other people like different stuff from me?"

It is not why do other people like different stuff it is why does the media concentrate on promoting this type of music to the detriment of everything else. This music is popular because it is marketed to us because these singers are connected in some way to the powers that be in RTE and TV3. TG4 has that Glor Tire which is dominated for years by the likes of Mike Denver.

I know many other types of music are popular in Ireland and could do as well as this boyfolk country stuff if promoted. They are just overhyped wedding bands. I have noted that this stuff has really taken off since Tubridy took over too.

There is no excuse for Ryan at all. He sings dull songs. He has no charisma. He is not from Donegal.

Yamanoto

Country & Irish music appeals to folks who wouldn't have a huge interest in music, if that makes any sense.

It's way more about the dancin' and the craic than it is the quality of the song or artist....so it is.

Zaph

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

It is not why do other people like different stuff it is why does the media concentrate on promoting this type of music to the detriment of everything else.

Which media? I've never even heard of these guys you're going on about, and I suspect I'm not alone. But seriously, if I've managed to live happily oblivious to the existence of these people, then surely it can't be that difficult to ignore them? Switching channels when they come on is probably a good start.

BuilderPlumber

Zaph wrote: »

I had to look up the dictionary just to be sure that we're thinking about the same word. I'm not so sure we are.

There are dozens of Irish artists much worse than Crystal Swing. Friends of mine went to see them and in fairness, what you see is what you get. They are very nice and approachable and are not bigheaded or phony. Crystal Swing do not sing in fake accents and their material varies from rock 'n' roll to religious songs to ballads and have a better package to offer than these boyfolk pretenders like Ryan.

The arrogant swagger of Mike Denver would make one sick. He struts around obviously full of himself singing fake voiced pop in a country accent. Ryan follows suit.

I thought this would be about giving lads too many spuds

whisky_galore

galljga1 wrote: »

Rock me baby like a wagon wheel.

That doesn't even make any sense. How exactly do you 'rock' anyone like a wheel of any sort?

chanelfreak

bluewolf wrote: »

I thought this would be about giving lads too many spuds

Me too. I'm fair disappointed now.

BuilderPlumber

Zaph wrote: »

Which media? I've never even heard of these guys you're going on about, and I suspect I'm not alone. But seriously, if I've managed to live happily oblivious to the existence of these people, then surely it can't be that difficult to ignore them? Switching channels when they come on is probably a good start.

RTE, TV3, TG4, satellite programs like Hot Country, local radio. Virtually all Irish media and some UK media too like UTV/UTV Ireland and BBC Northern Ireland. I do turn off or switch when I see them coming on that's for sure. Most people who watch Tubridy's show for example will know them. Anyone who has not heard or heard of them are lucky.

I, like a lot of people, watch very little Irish TV. This is mainly because of these fellas and other individuals being forced on us. Reality TV of all kinds, bad Irish country of the kind discussed, boybands, talent shows, boring politics and the like make up most of it. Unfortunately, most UK TV is not much better. But at least there is BBC4 for good music.

fleet_admiral

fleet_admiral wrote: »

I would love to lick mike denver square in the bollox

I thought you said

galljga1

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

There are dozens of Irish artists much worse than Crystal Swing. Friends of mine went to see them and in fairness, what you see is what you get. They are very nice and approachable and are not bigheaded or phony. Crystal Swing do not sing in fake accents and their material varies from rock 'n' roll to religious songs to ballads and have a better package to offer than these boyfolk pretenders like Ryan.

The arrogant swagger of Mike Denver would make one sick. He struts around obviously full of himself singing fake voiced pop in a country accent. Ryan follows suit.

Is it just me or does anyone else think your man from crystal swing is doing the bad thing with his mother?

Zaph

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

RTE, TV3, TG4, satellite programs like Hot Country, local radio. Virtually all Irish media and some UK media too like UTV/UTV Ireland and BBC Northern Ireland. I do turn off or switch when I see them coming on that's for sure. Most people who watch Tubridy's show for example will know them. Anyone who has not heard or heard of them are lucky.

So you're giving out about country singers being on a show called Hot Country, whatever that is. Really? As for local radio, maybe that's down to where you are in the country? You certainly won't hear them on any local stations in Dublin. Nor have I heard them on Today FM, which is a national station. As for watching Tubridy or locally produced shows on UTV and BBC NI, well anyone who does pretty much deserves whatever is thrown at them.

tipptom

Cant stand this music but these guys are making great feckin wedges of cash nearly every night.

Rough Sleeper

galljga1 wrote: »

There is all sorts of wrong going on there.

Crystal Swing are supposed to be a joke act, though. These Irish country and western acts are entirely serious. Normally I'm perfectly happy to ignore pop music as I realise I'm not within the market at which it's aimed. But there's something almost insultingly bad about Irish country. It truly defines music made for people with no taste (as opposed to a bad taste) in music.

BuilderPlumber

Zaph wrote: »

So you're giving out about country singers being on a show called Hot Country, whatever that is. Really? As for local radio, maybe that's down to where you are in the country? You certainly won't hear them on any local stations in Dublin. Nor have I heard them on Today FM, which is a national station. As for watching Tubridy or locally produced shows on UTV and BBC NI, well anyone who does pretty much deserves whatever is thrown at them.

You will not here this boyfolk country muck on Dublin stations thankfully. When I lived in Dublin a few years back, it was a relief to discover even local radios with something different to offer like Anna Livia.

I agree about Tubridy and similar shows on UTV or BBC NI. It seems like all they do is select anyone who happens to be in Dublin or Belfast and get them in for a chat. And you'd see the same bad Irish country singers on all.

Hot Country is a satellite channel program filled with videos of boyfolk acts. It is based out of Cork. Since I live in Cork at present, perhaps it is more wellknown here and everyone seems to be talking about it either in a poor light or otherwise.

CFlat

tipptom wrote: »

Cant stand this music but these guys are making great feckin wedges of cash nearly every night.

Yep. If you're a gigging musician and you want to make money forget about pop/rock/soul/ etc, join a country band. You'll be gigging 7 nights a week during the summer and probably 4/5 nights a week the rest of the year. Couldn't bring myself to do it when I was gigging but if you can put up with kitsch-ness of it, than you can make a good living.

tipptom

Yamanoto wrote: »

Country & Irish music appeals to folks who wouldn't have a huge interest in music, if that makes any sense.

It's way more about the dancin' and the craic than it is the quality of the song or artist....so it is.

That makes sense to me and the funny thing about these fans(including relatives of mine)is they are totally intolerant of other music but if you tell them you are not gone(I try to be diplomatic) on their new kid on the block,they are almost personally insulted.

whisky_galore

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So it's basically the Special Olympics of music?

It's inoffensive, harmless pap that grannies and granddads can listen to, sung by nice young men.

It's what local radio lives on, outside of cattle prices and weather reports.

CFlat

whisky_galore wrote: »

It's inoffensive, harmless pap that grannies and granddads can listen to, sung by nice young men.

It's what local radio lives on, outside of cattle prices and weather reports.

...and death notices.

Crooked Jack

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

It is not why do other people like different stuff it is why does the media concentrate on promoting this type of music to the detriment of everything else. This music is popular because it is marketed to us because these singers are connected in some way to the powers that be in RTE and TV3. TG4 has that Glor Tire which is dominated for years by the likes of Mike Denver.

I know many other types of music are popular in Ireland and could do as well as this boyfolk country stuff if promoted. They are just overhyped wedding bands. I have noted that this stuff has really taken off since Tubridy took over too.

There is no excuse for Ryan at all. He sings dull songs. He has no charisma. He is not from Donegal.

Ah come on! Are you joking? There's the odd programme of a sunday night dedicated to it. Stick on 2Fm at any hour of the day or night and you'll hear the same drivelous pop chart stuff over and over