Has any county beaten 'the full set' in championship? (football)

Nidgeweasel

Bored at work with my Monaghan colleague we had a natter about this. Excluding London and New York has any county beaten every other entrant in the AI or is anybody close to doing so?. Maybe it's because we were bored (or that we need a life), thought it quite interesting. Pass a while on a Sunday perhaps. I suspect the answer to the initial question is a resounding 'No' to be honest.

Donegal:

Ulster
Beaten them all in the past 5 years. Edit* Apart from Fermanagh but we've beaten them oft times before.

Leinster:
Dublin (2014), Meath (2002), Kildare (2011), Westmeath (2007), Carlow (2009) Longford (2003), Laois (2013).

Offaly- Beaten in 1972 semi final.
Wexford, Wicklow, Louth: Never played them in Championship.

Munster:
Kerry (2012), Cork (2012), Clare (2009), Tipp (2003).

Limerick, Waterford: Never played them in Championship.

Connaught
Galway (2015), Mayo (2012), Sligo (2003), Leitrim (2007).

Roscommon: Never played them in Championship.


So only yet to meet (and beat) 7 counties. Anyone closer than that? I'm thinking Armagh might be close enough or Tyrone. They've both had 'exotic' draws down the country over the past few years. While you'd think of the most successful counties like Kerry or Dublin they don't really tend to play some of the more obscure teams.

iDave

Meath

OK will go with most recent wins

Leinster
Louth 2011 Dublin 2010 Kildare 2014 Westmeath 2009 Wicklow 2015 Offaly 2010 Laois 2010 Carlow 2014 Wexford 2013
I know we've beaten Longford just can't remember last meeting.
Kilkenny, have we met?

Munster
Kerry 2001 Cork 1999 Waterford 2009 Limerick 2009
Will need help with Tipp and Clare

Connacht
Mayo 2009 Galway 2011 Roscommon 2009 Leitrim 2005
Can't remember playing Sligo

Ulster
Antrim 2005 I think
Armagh 1999
Down 2007
Tyrone 2007
Donegal 1990?
Cavan probably the 1930s
Fermanagh 2007
Derry 1987
Monaghan 2003


Without googling I think it's just Sligo Tipp and Clare.

Fr Tod Umptious

Kerry have beaten everyone except Donegal.
They only meet once in 2012.

iDave

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Kerry have beaten everyone except Donegal.
They only meet once in 2012.

Where were you last September?

ButtersSuki

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Kerry have beaten everyone except Donegal.
They only meet once in 2012.

I'm not evena GAA fan but KERRY beat Donegal last year.

Smartguy

Kerry
Munster

Obviously yes

Ulster
Have never beaten down. Have beaten all the others in the last 15 years


Connacht
Have never played Leitrim. Beat ros in 1980. The others in the last 10 years

Leinster
Don't think kerry have ever played Kilkenny, laois, Carlow , louth or Westmeath in championship. Not sure about Wexford but would suspect they would have played each other a long time ago.

Nidgeweasel

Smartguy wrote: »

Ulster
Have never beaten down. Have beaten all the others in the last 15 years

Fermanagh too?

Smartguy

Yes, in 2002, pretty one sided from memory.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/kerry-swat-hapless-fermanagh-aside-1.429014?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fkerry-swat-hapless-fermanagh-aside-1.429014

Fr Tod Umptious

iDave wrote: »

Where were you last September?

Oh yea I completely forgot.

OK Kerry then I think they have beaten everyone in the championship.

Wonder who is next closest

Glenbhoy

iDave wrote: »

Meath

OK will go with most recent wins

Leinster
Louth 2011 Dublin 2010 Kildare 2014 Westmeath 2009 Wicklow 2015 Offaly 2010 Laois 2010 Carlow 2014 Wexford 2013
I know we've beaten Longford just can't remember last meeting.
Kilkenny, have we met?

Munster
Kerry 2001 Cork 1999 Waterford 2009 Limerick 2009
Will need help with Tipp and Clare

Connacht
Mayo 2009 Galway 2011 Roscommon 2009 Leitrim 2003 I think. I know it went to extra time
Can't remember playing Sligo

Ulster
Antrim 2005 I think
Armagh 1999
Down 2007
Tyrone 2007
Donegal 1990?
Cavan probably the 1930s
Fermanagh 2007
Will need help with Derry and Monaghan


Without googling I think it's just Sligo Derry Monaghan Tipp and Clare.
I know we did beat Monaghan in the Centenary Cup.

Meath beat derry in '87 all ireland semi. Mcnicholl our main man played on one leg, probably not a great decision in hindsight.
Still, that meath team turned out to be reasonably successful!

Smartguy

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Oh yea I completely forgot.

OK Kerry then I think they have beaten everyone in the championship.

Wonder who is next closest

Kerry have never beaten down and have not played several others.

OldMrBrennan83

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Fr Tod Umptious

Smartguy wrote: »

Kerry have never beaten down and have not played several others.

OK you are right there, I am way off the mark with this, but then again I am basing my info on my memory of a few posts from Sticker (or what ever his/her name is) back around 2012.

Meath Centre Forward

Meath beat Monaghan in 2003 when Coyler was in charge. The Leitrim win was in 2005.

I don't think Meath have ever played Tipperary, Clare or Sligo in championship but they would look to be the only counties.

The qualifiers have allowed a lot of unusual pairings occur which wouldn't have happened without them.

iDave

Meath Centre Forward wrote: »

Meath beat Monaghan in 2003 when Coyler was in charge. The Leitrim win was in 2005.

I don't think Meath have ever played Tipperary, Clare or Sligo in championship but they would look to be the only counties.

The qualifiers have allowed a lot of unusual pairings occur which wouldn't have happened without them.

Oh FFS I was at that Monaghan game too. Thanks for the reminder. Post edited. Boylan was still in charge for 03 though.
Overall a very good record for Meath

bruschi

to the OP, Wexford played and beat Monaghan in 2006.

with regards to Kerry, there was a few games between them when Wexford played in 6 AI finals in a row in the 1910's. Kerry won the first 2, and Wexford the third as they played each other in 3 finals in a row. This was the Wexford side that won the first 4 in a row.

Kerry or Dublin would be the only 2 who would realistically have any chance of completing the set, but their biggest hindrance would be not having played some counties who wouldnt progress very far in championship

Stoner

Fr Tod Umptious wrote:

I am basing my info on my memory of a few posts from Sticker (or what ever his/her name is) back around 2012.

My God Fr Tod, have you drink taken?

Flukey

Smartguy wrote: »

Leinster
Don't think kerry have ever played Kilkenny, laois, Carlow , louth or Westmeath in championship. Not sure about Wexford but would suspect they would have played each other a long time ago.

Kerry beat Louth in the 1909 final. Louth won the 1910 final in a walkover as Kerry refused to travel.

Kerry beat Wexford in 1913 and 1914. Wexford beat Kerry in 1915, the first of their 4-in-a-row of All-Irelands. They were the first county to achieve that feat.

Flukey

Dublin will tick off another in their set today.

Fr Tod Umptious

Stoner wrote: »

My God Fr Tod, have you drink taken?

I know, I fell like a right fool after those posts.

I usually dont post if I am not 100% sure of a fact.

I'm sorry.

By the way
Have Kerry played everyone band beaten them all except Down ?

Hammer Archer

iDave wrote: »

Oh FFS I was at that Monaghan game too. Thanks for the reminder. Post edited. Boylan was still in charge for 03 though.
Overall a very good record for Meath

Coyler was in charge of Monaghan that time.
Think we lost the only game against Tipperary in the late 1800s or early 1900s. Not sure if we've ever played Sligo or Clare in the championship. We would have had the chance to scratch two of them off the list had we beaten Tyrone last month.

Fr Tod Umptious

Flukey wrote: »

Dublin will tick off another in their set today.

It's really something that has only been made possible by the back door.

Kerry played Wicklow and Fermanagh, the two teams that have never won provincials, in qualifiers in 2002.

An Ciarraioch

Thanks to Eoin Corry's Kingdom Come, it soon emerges that Kerry have played every other county, except Kilkenny and New York (who only joined the Championship in recent seasons). Famously, Down are the only county we've yet to defeat.

overshoot

Nidge think Donegal beat Wicklow in or around 2009, one more of the list

CrabRevolution

Kildare beat Wicklow in 09, couldnt have been Donegal.

I have the programme from the 1996 AI final. Which says Meath had played 24 counties, and beaten 22 of them. In the years since that has increased to 23 out of those 24 since we beat Limerick in 2009. Meath's first ever championship football match was a loss to Limerick in 1887. We never met again for 121 years till we got them in 2008, and that ended with the saddest match in Meath history (even including this years Westmeath match). We've yet to avenge the 1895 AI final loss to Tipperary though.

Since 1996 then we've beaten Armagh, Monaghan, Waterford and Fermanagh for the first time too. That gives 27 counties. The remainder are Tipp, Clare, Sligo and who?

Nidgeweasel

overshoot wrote: »

Nidge think Donegal beat Wicklow in or around 2009, one more of the list

I thought this you know but I can't remember going, checked and couldn't find a record either.

An Ciarraioch

CrabRevolution wrote: »

Kildare beat Wicklow in 09, couldnt have been Donegal.

I have the programme from the 1996 AI final. Which says Meath had played 24 counties, and beaten 22 of them. In the years since that has increased to 23 out of those 24 since we beat Limerick in 2009. Meath's first ever championship football match was a loss to Limerick in 1887. We never met again for 121 years till we got them in 2008, and that ended with the saddest match in Meath history (even including this years Westmeath match). We've yet to avenge the 1895 AI final loss to Tipperary though.

Since 1996 then we've beaten Armagh, Monaghan, Waterford and Fermanagh for the first time too. That gives 27 counties. The remainder are Tipp, Clare, Sligo and who?

Presumably you played London in the same 1900s era that Kerry did, New York would seem to be impossible for any non-Connacht county.

Fr Tod Umptious

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Presumably you played London in the same 1900s era that Kerry did, New York would seem to be impossible for any non-Connacht county.

Yes because they do not play in the qualifiers no non Connacht team will ever play NY.

And Kerry will only ever to get to play Kilkenny if they decide to re enter the Leinster championship

CrabRevolution

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Presumably you played London in the same 1900s era that Kerry did, New York would seem to be impossible for any non-Connacht county.

I'd imagine London and New York were excluded. As it stands, of the 31 counties in Ireland I can name the 28 we've beaten and the 3 we've not played/beaten.

We've beaten everyone in Ulster+ Leinster. Add on Galway (2011) Mayo (2009) Roscommon (2009) and Leitrim (2005) in Connacht. Then Limerick (2009) Waterford (2009) Kerry (2001) and Cork (1999) in Munster.

So Sligo, Tipperary and Clare have yet to be beaten. That'd be a nice qualifier run to set a few records straight. Could throw in London too, for posterity.

Edit: I've rewritten this. Must have been distracted when I wrote "I can only think of 27 counties, I'm missing one", as I then went on to list all 28 in the next sentence.

Nidgeweasel

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Antrim? They haven't won an Ulster final since 1950.

Beat them in 2009, no?

overshoot

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

I thought this you know but I can't remember going, checked and couldn't find a record either.

ha i was sure we played them and couldnt let it go... round 1 2005!

Nidgeweasel

overshoot wrote: »

ha i was sure we played them and couldnt let it go... round 1 2005!

You're right, I thought we played them because I remember the ould fella raving about Aughrim before. Never checked 2005, thought Cavan did for us In the first round when DV missed a penalty.

Good shout, one more off the list!

overshoot

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

You're right, I thought we played them because I remember the ould fella raving about Aughrim before. Never checked 2005, thought Cavan did for us In the first round when DV missed a penalty.

Good shout, one more off the list!

ha actually looking back at the OP, found Roscommon in 2008... i think 2006 was the only year's results i didnt look at trying to find wicklow

that just leaves us with Wexford, Louth, Limerick & Waterford to play and Offaly as the only team we have played & not beaten

Nidgeweasel

overshoot wrote: »

ha actually looking back at the OP, found Roscommon in 2008... i think 2006 was the only year's results i didnt look at trying to find wicklow

that just leaves us with Wexford, Louth, Limerick & Waterford to play and Offaly as the only team we have played & not beaten

That's right! Jesus another one, the brain must be on the wane. In my defence I was in the states at the time. I was back home for the Monaghan game, unfortunately!

paulie21

Kildare:

Carlow (2001), Louth (2014), Meath (2011), Dublin (2000), Longford (2015), Laois (2015), Offaly (2015), Westmeath (2005), Wexford (2009), Wicklow (2011)

Kerry (1998), Cork (2015), Limerick (2012), Clare (2014). Never played Tipperary or Waterford as far as I know

Leitrim (2010), Roscommon (2006), Sligo (2012). Never beat Galway or played Mayo as far as I know

Fermanagh (2008), Antrim (2010), Derry (2011), Monaghan (2011), Donegal (2002), Cavan (2012), Down (2014). Never played Armagh or beat Tyrone as far as I know

Red Kev

Slightly off topic but Willie Hegarty from Roscommon who is a commentator with Shannonside FM recently wrote that he has seen Roscommon play against every other county. Not a bad record.

Being from Connacht,NY and London are a given. I think it cuts across Minor, U-21 and Senior in both hurling and football but there can't be too many people in the country with that record.

Fr Tod Umptious

paulie21 wrote: »

Kildare:

Carlow (2001), Louth (2014), Meath (2011), Dublin (2000), Longford (2015), Laois (2015), Offaly (2015), Westmeath (2005), Wexford (2009), Wicklow (2011)

Kerry (1998), Cork (2015), Limerick (2012), Clare (2014). Never played Tipperary or Waterford as far as I know

Leitrim (2010), Roscommon (2006), Sligo (2012). Never beat Galway or played Mayo as far as I know

Fermanagh (2008), Antrim (2010), Derry (2011), Monaghan (2011), Donegal (2002), Cavan (2012), Down (2014). Never played Armagh or beat Tyrone as far as I know

What, you mean you don't recall the 1935 All Ireland semi final ?
Kildare 2-6 Mayo 0-7.

People need to look beyond the modern era for the answers.

Jayop

They said on Sunday that Kildare have won more games than anyone else in the qualifiers so they're bound to be close to the top side.

Jayop

Tyrone

Ulster - Played and beat everyone (Full House)

Connaught - Mayo, Sligo, Roscommon, Galway, Leitrim (Full House)

Munster - Tipp, Kerry, Limerick - beat by Cork 2010 - Never played Waterford or Clare that I can see

Leinster - Dublin, Kildare, Laoise, Louth, Westmeath, Wexford, Longford, Meath, Offaly - Never played carlow or wicklow that I can see.


4 short.

BonnieSituation

Jayop wrote: »

Tyrone

Ulster - Played and beat everyone (Full House)

Connaught - Mayo, Sligo, Roscommon, Galway, Leitrim (Full House)

Munster - Tipp, Kerry, Offaly, Limerick - beat by Cork 2010 - Never played Waterford that I can see

Leinster - Dublin, Kildare, Laoise, Louth, Westmeath, Wexford, Longford, Meath, Offaly - Never played carlow or wicklow that I can see.


4 short.

Clare perhaps?

Magill46

iDave wrote: »

Meath

OK will go with most recent wins

Leinster
Louth 2011 Dublin 2010 Kildare 2014 Westmeath 2009 Wicklow 2015 Offaly 2010 Laois 2010 Carlow 2014 Wexford 2013
I know we've beaten Longford just can't remember last meeting.
Kilkenny, have we met?

Munster
Kerry 2001 Cork 1999 Waterford 2009 Limerick 2009
Will need help with Tipp and Clare

Connacht
Mayo 2009 Galway 2011 Roscommon 2009 Leitrim 2005
Can't remember playing Sligo

Ulster
Antrim 2005 I think
Armagh 1999
Down 2007
Tyrone 2007
Donegal 1990?
Cavan probably the 1930s
Fermanagh 2007
Derry 1987
Monaghan 2003


Without googling I think it's just Sligo Tipp and Clare.

Meath beat Cavan in the 1949 All Ireland Final. Cavan were red hot favourites and going for 3 in a row. Meath brought back some guy for the final who last played for them in 1939. Now Banty, that's a stunt!
You know, I didn't have to look any of this up and im not from Meath or Cavan, I'm from Monaghan. If I was single, I'd never get a girlfriend now:-)

Jayop

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Clare perhaps?

Geography was never a strong point.

BonnieSituation

Jayop wrote: »

Geography was never a strong point.

As a Tyrone lad living in Sligo you never really had a chance.

Jayop

And a class clown too in my day.

BonnieSituation

Jayop wrote: »

And a class clown too in my day.

Is there any other type of Tyronian?

Jayop

:pac:

CrabRevolution

Found it odd to see that Meath and Westmeath didnt meet in Leinster until 1935. Considering they had a 1 in 11 chance of meeting in the first round each year, and an even greater chance if they won a match or two, for them to go half a century without meeting once was unbelievable

Made the "130 years of pain" comments after the Meath-Westmeath match this year even more ridiculous sounding. I doubt they spent the first 50 years regretting that they've never beaten a team they never played.

purplepanda

iDave wrote: »

Meath


Kilkenny, have we met?


Without googling I think it's just Sligo Tipp and Clare.

1911 KK V MH Leinster Final KK won but MH won the title because KK were late! :pac:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilkenny_GAA#Gaelic_football

Old_-_School

Kerry:
Munster: Clare 2014, Cork 2015, Waterford 2013, Limerick 2012, Tipperary 2015

Ulster: Antrim 2009, Armagh 2006, Cavan 2012, Derry 2004, Donegal 2014, Down: never won, 0 from 5, Fermanagh 2002, Monaghan 2008, Tyrone 2012

Connaught: Galway 2014, Roscommon 2003, Sligo 2009, Mayo 2014, Leitrim 1930s I think.

Leinster: Carlow 1940s, Meath 2009, Dublin 2009, Offaly 1981, Kildare 2015, Westmeath 2012, Longford 2009?, Kilkenny - never met, Wicklow 2002, Wexford 1930s, Louth 1950s?, Laois - don't know, know we've beaten them but no idea when.

Also beat London at some stage when there was a concept of home final.

Do that's everyone except Down. Kilkenny and NY

An Ciarraioch

Old_-_School wrote: »

Kerry:
Munster: Clare 2014, Cork 2015, Waterford 2013, Limerick 2012, Tipperary 2015

Ulster: Antrim 2009, Armagh 2006, Cavan 2012, Derry 2004, Donegal 2014, Down: never won, 0 from 5, Fermanagh 2002, Monaghan 2008, Tyrone 2012

Connaught: Galway 2014, Roscommon 2003, Sligo 2009, Mayo 2014, Leitrim 1930s I think.

Leinster: Carlow 1940s, Meath 2009, Dublin 2009, Offaly 1981, Kildare 2015, Westmeath 2012, Longford 2009?, Kilkenny - never met, Wicklow 2002, Wexford 1930s, Louth 1950s?, Laois - don't know, know we've beaten them but no idea when.

Also beat London at some stage when there was a concept of home final.

Do that's everyone except Down. Kilkenny and NY

Laois (1937, 1938), Louth (1953), Carlow (1944), Wexford (1914). Leitrim is actually the easiest to remember as they've only won two Connacht titles, and we beat them the first time, in 1927.

Amprodude

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Kerry have beaten everyone except Donegal.
They only meet once in 2012.

They haven't beaten Down in championship.