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Should Ireland ever host the Olympics?

  • 28-07-2015 11:45am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭


    With more bids coming in for 2024, do you think Ireland should host a Summer Olympic Games in the future? I would love for it to happen, but don't think it will, but we're hosting more and more competitions recently and probably will do in the future so I think it'd be good. But we'd need to be in a better financial state.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    dogcat wrote: »
    With more bids coming in for 2024, do you think Ireland should host a Summer Olympic Games in the future? I would love for it to happen, but don't think it will, but we're hosting more and more competitions recently and probably will do in the future so I think it'd be good. But we'd need to be in a better financial state.

    Where in gods name would we get the money, infrastructure or organisational skills to host the Olympics?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Menas wrote: »
    Where in gods name would we get the money, infrastructure or organisational skills to host the Olympics?

    You called?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,629 ✭✭✭brevity


    We have trouble hosting concerts and festivals, God only knows what would happen if we attempted to host the Olympics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Not a NSA agent


    Maybe if there was a celtic tiger 2.0, until then definitely not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭dogcat


    Menas wrote: »
    Where in gods name would we get the money, infrastructure or organisational skills to host the Olympics?
    Sure use the croker for most stuff, we can improvise on the rest. Maybe give an event or two to somewhere else in the country. We're getting more money by the day sure. We're grand at organizing stuff that are big.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    Ireland couldn't organize something as large as the Olympics without it being a fiasco. Garth Brooks would die laughing if the Olympic committee granted it to Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Prohibitively expensive for what the IOC want from candidates.

    Your looking at approx €20bn.... but probably more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    dogcat wrote: »
    Sure use the croker for most stuff, we can improvise on the rest. Maybe give an event or two to somewhere else in the country. We're getting more money by the day sure. We're grand at organizing stuff that are big.

    That post has cleared up every nagging question I had.

    I'm now 100% behind Ireland's Olympic bid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    dogcat wrote: »
    Should Ireland ever host the Olympics?

    Absolutely not. I'd rather see those billions pumped into job creation and small business enterprises. Olympic games tend to leave behind a legacy of waste and unused facilitates. We've had enough waste already in this country, without adding the mother of all white elephants into the mix.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    dogcat wrote: »
    Sure use the croker for most stuff, we can improvise on the rest. Maybe give an event or two to somewhere else in the country. We're getting more money by the day sure. We're grand at organizing stuff that are big.

    You do know that the actual operating cost of hosting the event is over 10Billion?
    And how do you improvise a world class velodrome, 50 metre pool etc etc?
    Not to mentioning improvising a whole bunch of hotel rooms and transportation links?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    dogcat wrote: »
    Sure use the croker for most stuff, we can improvise on the rest. Maybe give an event or two to somewhere else in the country. We're getting more money by the day sure. We're grand at organizing stuff that are big.

    One minor flaw in your reasoning is the lack of a running track in the stadium but I'm sure they can just run the races out on Clonliffe road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭rosie16


    As tommy tiernan said we should host the 'drugs olympics'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDRzS2qLDhk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    The 100m final in Santry Stadium!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Maybe we should go for the winter olympics instead :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭dogcat


    Menas wrote: »
    You do know that the actual operating cost of hosting the event is over 10Billion?
    And how do you improvise a world class velodrome, 50 metre pool etc etc?
    Not to mentioning improvising a whole bunch of hotel rooms and transportation links?
    Aye, I do. I'm not say host in 2024 or 2028, but we can build these facilities over time, so that when we do apply n'd have better financial status (hopefully) and better transportation we'd be good. Dublin hotels are good, but not everyone needs to stay there exactly. They can branch out to other towns/cities and take transport to Dublin, and many people could couchsurf/AirBnB. We'd have the olympic village in that Lucan place.
    One minor flaw in your reasoning is the lack of a running track in the stadium but I'm sure they can just run the races out on Clonliffe road.
    Ah sure they can just make a running track sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    We'd have to lock up that nutty dancing priest first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭dogcat


    Maybe we should go for the winter olympics instead :D
    Maybe we can finally get a medal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    The Irish government have shown next to zero interest, beyond empty words, in helping athletics in this country. They'll never fund the kind of world class facilities that would be required. Even if the money was there, in my opinion the incredible levels of bureaucratic incompetence in this country would result in a disastrous Olympics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,639 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Maybe we should go for the winter olympics instead :D
    Or we should instigate the very first Autumnal Olympics. Running - in the rain. Jumping - in the rain. Hitting things - in the rain. Horsey stuff - in the rain. We can timeshare with Scotland.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Menas wrote: »
    Where in gods name would we get the money, infrastructure or organisational skills to host the Olympics?

    We've allready hosted the special olympics ... so don't see why not ..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Then there is security.

    London 2012 deployed 41,000 security personnel!
    Rio next year will be between 45-50,000.

    Ireland's combined security forces doesn't reach half this number, including reserves.

    Airspace is patrolled constantly, something Ireland can't do.

    Sites are protected by SAMs, which we can do, to some extent.

    Emergency services have to show they can handle a top category terrorist catastrophe.

    It would simply be impossible to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    We could do it, we could organise a fantastic, amazing , well received and talked about games for years to come!!!

    Should we do it? No.

    Just far to expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    We can call it the O'Lympics.









    I'll get my coat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    Never say never but probably not going to happen in our lifetime anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    dogcat wrote: »
    With more bids coming in for 2024, do you think Ireland should host a Summer Olympic Games in the future? I would love for it to happen, but don't think it will, but we're hosting more and more competitions recently and probably will do in the future so I think it'd be good. But we'd need to be in a better financial state.

    No, but we should hoist whoever suggests it. Televise the event too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    It would bankrupt the country and there is little or no long term economic benefit from hosting the games.

    It would result in a nett loss for the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Not a realistic chance for any country outside the top 15 by GDP.

    Finland would probably the closest comparison for us...and they held it in 1952!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Yeboah


    Ireland should concentrate on hosting whats its capable of hosting..Ryder Cups, Rugby World Cups, World Rally Championships. ..thats about the most we can aspire to but it would be still awesome to get those events (again)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    Hold it in County Carlow.

    Twill be lovely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭micosoft


    Menas wrote: »
    Where in gods name would we get the money, infrastructure or organisational skills to host the Olympics?

    Greece did! Oh wait....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Niemoj wrote: »
    Hold it in County Carlow.

    Twill be lovely.


    Carlow does have a running track so it's ahead of Croke Park at this stage.

    There's the "Horsepool" in the river Slaney. They could do the diving there. Somebody would have to "bate" back the thistles first though.

    Then there is the triathlon. They could swim in the river, then do the bike bit, and then run on the bits of road that aren't good enough for the bikes.

    There's plenty of chippers so that's the infrastructure sorted. No bother feeding a few athletes. And there's a couple of chineses and indianeses for those foreign folk

    It's sorted, Carlow it is so.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Carlow does have a running track so it's ahead of Croke Park at this stage.

    There's the "Horsepool" in the river Slaney. They could do the diving there. Somebody would have to "bate" back the thistles first though.

    Then there is the triathlon. They could swim in the river, then do the bike bit, and then run on the bits of road that aren't good enough for the bikes.

    There's plenty of chippers so that's the infrastructure sorted. No bother feeding a few athletes. And there's a couple of chineses and indianeses for those foreign folk

    It's sorted, Carlow it is so.

    Carlow! Carlow! Carlow! Carlow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,567 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    the_monkey wrote: »
    We've allready hosted the special olympics ... so don't see why not ..

    LOL, ah you're gas :pac: Sure it's practically the same thing, just with the word 'Special'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Prohibitively expensive for what the IOC want from candidates.

    Your looking at approx €20bn.... but probably more.
    And that's just the bribes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    fullstop wrote: »
    LOL, ah you're gas :pac: Sure it's practically the same thing, just with the word 'Special'.


    Well, I'm hooked on this Carlow idea now tbh...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭libelula


    I'd much rather they chuck a billion aT sport in general. Athletics, swimming, rounders, the lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Cus all the olympics in recent memory haven't operated at an utterly disgraceful loss of money....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    The Garth Brooks debacle proved Dublin incapable of hosting any major event.

    Another vote for Carlow, who successfully hosted the 1967 Leinster Fleadh Ceoil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    A mini special Olympics takes place outside Copers every Friday and Saturday night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Irishguy16


    Oh god, we wouldn't even come close to winning the bidding rights. We don't have enough stadiums, hotels, infrastructure, and so on, nor are we that passionate about sports to begin with. We can't really organize anything properly as a nation, usually we just crumble and put the blame on one another!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭libelula


    smash wrote: »
    A mini special Olympics takes place outside Copers every Friday and Saturday night

    Ever win any medals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    libelula wrote: »
    Ever win any medals?

    For the Snatch :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    we could have hosted the olympics, world cup, superbowl and wrestlemania and still have change left over with the money we pumped into anglo irish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    libelula wrote: »
    Ever win any medals?
    A couple, but sure it's the taking part that counts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    There is the same chance of us hosting the Olympics or World Cup, or anything of that stature as there is of a tunnel being constructed linking Ireland and the UK - which you hear people suggest while keeping a straight face.

    Our specialty is hosting the odd Europa League final or Special Olympics. Something "big" buuuut not really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    iDave wrote: »
    We can call it the O'Lympics.









    I'll get my coat.

    That wasn't too bad actually, you can stay where you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    All of the No.

    Besides, I reckon the IMF would throttle us for even suggesting it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Lets do what the Greeks did back in the day and host the Olympics.

    Our friends in Germany might loan us a couple Euro.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    KungPao wrote: »
    There is the same chance of us hosting the Olympics or World Cup, or anything of that stature as there is of a tunnel being constructed linking Ireland and the UK - which you hear people suggest while keeping a straight face.

    Our specialty is hosting the odd Europa League final or Special Olympics. Something "big" buuuut not really.


    In fairness we could have a UCL final in Croker ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Even taking the Greeks as an eg, look up pictures of the absolute state they let their 2004 Olympic venues turn into, such a bloody waste of money they let them all go to pot, the T&F stadium is now a homeless run shantytown.

    This is only 11 years ago but some of the surviving sites from the Ancient Games 2,000+ years ago look to be in a better condition.


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