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keep going

a fella today was telling me you cant give away fr heifer calves,any truth in it .to mind they are the animals most likely to make alot of money in the near future

Sam Kade

keep going wrote: »

a fella today was telling me you cant give away fr heifer calves,any truth in it .to mind they are the animals most likely to make alot of money in the near future

Some crazy prices for maiden heifers on done deal, I think the sellers think milk is still at 40 cent/litre. How much are heifer calves going for?

whelan2

Sam Kade wrote: »

Some crazy prices for maiden heifers on done deal, I think the sellers think milk is still at 40 cent/litre. How much are heifer calves going for?

I wonder how many of them actually sell though. Asking a price and getting it are 2 different things

whelan2

Injuryprone wrote: »

How long do people generally keep calves on starter crunch for? It's expensive stuff. And what type of nut (protein/ingredients etc) do ye progress them onto?

Vet was telling me last week calf crunch causes dipteria(sp) as its too hard on their gums, never heard it before

Sam Kade

whelan2 wrote: »

I wonder how many of them actually sell though. Asking a price and getting it are 2 different things

True, March heifer calves on done deal for 350, I'd say they see one ad with a price and the rest use the same price.

Sam Kade

whelan2 wrote: »

Vet was telling me last week calf crunch causes dipteria(sp) as its too hard on their gums, never heard it before

The only thing I see with prime calf starter in Dairygold is that it is laced with molasses to get them eating it and when they are eating enough of it it will scour them.

kevthegaff

I'm putting some heifer calves up for 200 tom on dd if anyone's interested :-) I'm a realist!

Injuryprone

Sam Kade wrote: »

The only thing I see with prime calf starter in Dairygold is that it is laced with molasses to get them eating it and when they are eating enough of it it will scour them.

I presume you're talking about the krispi calf starter. I was tipping away grand with the coarse starter, got a bag of the krispi by mistake, scoured them almost straight away. Took me a while to cop it, knocked them back about a week

Would I be right in saying DG don't carry a calf pencil?

kowtow

kevthegaff wrote:

I'm putting some heifer calves up for 200 tom on dd if anyone's interested :-) I'm a realist!

What breed? Pm me by all means.

Need to fill a few gaps, maidens + nice late / first calvers also. Only after a few of each.

Sam Kade

Injuryprone wrote: »

I presume you're talking about the krispi calf starter. I was tipping away grand with the coarse starter, got a bag of the krispi by mistake, scoured them almost straight away. Took me a while to cop it, knocked them back about a week

Would I be right in saying DG don't carry a calf pencil?

Yes you are right no calf pencil in DG.
It was a few years ago that I used it prime coarse calf food or prime elite it was called they also have krispi kaf.

Sam Kade

kevthegaff wrote: »

I'm putting some heifer calves up for 200 tom on dd if anyone's interested :-) I'm a realist!

What age are they?

Milked out

Sam Kade wrote: »

Yes you are right no calf pencil in DG.
It was a few years ago that I used it prime coarse calf food or prime elite it was called they also have krispi kaf.

They do, kaf pride is a pencil and they also sell their heifer rearer 19% nut by the bag as well as bulk. I use the calf starter ration for first few weeks then go to the heifer rearer cube delivered in bulk then and feed that for the summer as well

Dawggone

kowtow wrote: »

What breed? Pm me by all means.

Need to fill a few gaps, maidens + nice late / first calvers also. Only after a few of each.

You'd get 10 here for the price of one of his...in fact I'll throw a dozen for €200 if you collect.

Much cheaper to buy than rear.

kowtow

Dawggone wrote:

You'd get 10 here for the price of one of his...in fact I'll throw a dozen for €200 if you collect.

Dawggone wrote:

Much cheaper to buy than rear.

Its tempting enough, we could have a bilingual herd..

Dawggone

kowtow wrote: »

Its tempting enough, we could have a bilingual herd..

French cheese?

kevthegaff

Dawggone wrote: »

You'd get 10 here for the price of one of his...in fact I'll throw a dozen for €200 if you collect.

Much cheaper to buy than rear.

Jes dawg your not helping me :-D

Dawggone

kevthegaff wrote: »

Jes dawg your not helping me :-D

Lol.
Blame Kowtow and his 'Free' markets...

darragh_haven

keep going wrote: »

a fella today was telling me you cant give away fr heifer calves,any truth in it .to mind they are the animals most likely to make alot of money in the near future

Friend of mine bought a group of 13 for €240 each last week. The heifers were nothing special but grand animals all the same.

kevthegaff

Sold the earlier ones for v nice money! 2-3 weeks old. Going flying herd here, only regret my own heifers were nice quality this year.

C4d78

Bit worrying here with milk yield. Cows were heading for 29L prior to being housed weekend before last. Were in for 3 milkings on 72 dmd pit silage.
Yield fell next collection to 25 but the worrying thing is its hovered around there & is failing to rise. Had thought once went back to grass and 5.5 kg of meal it'd bounce.
Protein has recovered. Haven't started serving yet.
Median calving was 10/2. Have they missed peak or might they they still rise?
How have others faired out. Have they recovered from dip?

kowtow

Bought a rotbunt today, quiet as you like, walked into the parlour Milked quietly and then - while her companion was being Milked- escaped across the yard bellowing "this place even as a swimming pool' and dived headfirst into a slurry lagoon which was thankfully only full of washings and the run off of about 50 tonnes of dung.

So after an hour of moving dung from the ramp and another hour waist deep coaxing her out she's lying quietly in a pen drinking warm water and chewing silage.

What an entrance.

She'd better produce a bit of milk.

Milked out

kowtow wrote: »

Bought a rotbunt today, quiet as you like, walked into the parlour Milked quietly and then - while her companion was being Milked- escaped across the yard bellowing "this place even as a swimming pool' and dived headfirst into a slurry lagoon which was thankfully only full of washings and the run off of about 50 tonnes of dung.

So after an hour of moving dung from the ramp and another hour waist deep coaxing her out she's lying quietly in a pen drinking warm water and chewing silage.

What an entrance.

She'd better produce a bit of milk.

Lucky, had you anyone with you kowtow? Those situations can go from awkward to dangerous very quick so no harm to get a neighbour or some one even if it's just to call for help if anything goes wrong or hold a rope or even they suggest a way of solving an issue without having the temper or panic one might get when something like that goes wrong in ones own place. Similar scenarios happened here too and have often been grateful for neighbours help or advise

keep going

C4d78 wrote: »

Bit worrying here with milk yield. Cows were heading for 29L prior to being housed weekend before last. Were in for 3 milkings on 72 dmd pit silage.
Yield fell next collection to 25 but the worrying thing is its hovered around there & is failing to rise. Had thought once went back to grass and 5.5 kg of meal it'd bounce.
Protein has recovered. Haven't started serving yet.
Median calving was 10/2. Have they missed peak or might they they still rise?
How have others faired out. Have they recovered from dip?

mine havd flat lined for a couple of weeks and have only started to rise todays collection

Dawggone

Milked out wrote: »

Lucky, had you anyone with you kowtow? Those situations can go from awkward to dangerous very quick so no harm to get a neighbour or some one even if it's just to call for help if anything goes wrong or hold a rope or even they suggest a way of solving an issue without having the temper or panic one might get when something like that goes wrong in ones own place. Similar scenarios happened here too and have often been grateful for neighbours help or advise

Got a call from the Cops last night at around midnight that 64 drys and a bull (lively chap!) were tearing up a busy National Road...lovely. Excellent for focusing the brain.

Milked out

Dawggone wrote: »

Got a call from the Cops last night at around midnight that 64 drys and a bull (lively chap!) were tearing up a busy National Road...lovely. Excellent for focusing the brain.

Shir just tell them they were protesting at the price of milk

Dawggone

Milked out wrote: »

Shir just tell them they were protesting at the price of milk

Lol.

visatorro

Department vet here yesterday testing animal that was inconclusive on herd test. Such a miserable individual. I don't mind a fella doing his job but a hello wouldn't go astray. Probably break out in a smile if animal reacts!!

freedominacup

C4d78 wrote: »

Bit worrying here with milk yield. Cows were heading for 29L prior to being housed weekend before last. Were in for 3 milkings on 72 dmd pit silage.
Yield fell next collection to 25 but the worrying thing is its hovered around there & is failing to rise. Had thought once went back to grass and 5.5 kg of meal it'd bounce.
Protein has recovered. Haven't started serving yet.
Median calving was 10/2. Have they missed peak or might they they still rise?
How have others faired out. Have they recovered from dip?

I think grass hasn't had the gas in it up to now to drive yield. That and low pre grazing covers curtailing intakes is suppressing yield. Cows here still getting 2kg dm of first cut and 5kg meal for around 27l but we're still calving so not too worried about yield yet.

keep going

watched a cow calve this morning at 4 and i didnt bother going out as id be up soon but i went into the pen cow and calf were fine but there was a hairy ball with cleaning hanging to it in the corner .anybody see anything like it before,i presume its some sort of half formed twin but it has no head or legs

mahoney_j

freedominacup wrote: »

I think grass hasn't had the gas in it up to now to drive yield. That and low pre grazing covers curtailing intakes is suppressing yield. Cows here still getting 2kg dm of first cut and 5kg meal for around 27l but we're still calving so not too worried about yield yet.

Cows really hitting gear here now ,calving finished a week .on 48 hour blocks ,5.5 kg 15% but .33.38 ltrs 3.47 p 3.56 fat scc 76 urea 28 .only dissapointent is butterfat .a problem I seem to I counter every April/may .make up of nut is maize ,barley ,hulls ,soya and pk with 1%megafat .dungs good and solid considering lush grass ,cows bulling strong and in excellent condition .left feeder in yard with bale of straw in it and cows barely glance at it .would really love to find a solution to it but not massively worried as it ain't affecting performance .fat overall for year will average 4.0:4.1