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mahoney_j

johnny122 wrote: »

Anyone want to comment on this feed?

Wouldn't be massively impressed ,pk as second ingrident ????,price wise I reckon 240 or less I reckon .on 16 here with maize ,barley ,beet pulp ,soya bean meal and hulls main ingridents .

johnny122

mahoney_j wrote: »

Wouldn't be massively impressed ,pk as second ingrident ????,price wise I reckon 240 or less I reckon .on 16 here with maize ,barley ,beet pulp ,soya bean meal and hulls main ingridents .

My thoughts exactly, the wild lad got it and my first impression was crap! I'd say nearer 260.

Is your mix a nut or ration mahony?

frazzledhome

Dawggone wrote: »

4/ha without a wagon. Respect.

Aside from extreme hi yielding herds with loads of groups, cattle finishers or out farms I can't see the need for feeder wagons

keep going

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Update on my last reply.... Finally put my Kerbl milk heater into operation... Great job in fairness. About an hour to nicely warm 150L. I have it it suspended in a blue barrell and have it on a plug in timer to come on at the required time.

Internet been down a week and unbelievably we survived. Thanks for that , it would be handy to have a barrel of milk on the go so that you would have a little flexibility in the amount of milk we hold for calves and I would be able to put the barrel in thecalf house

keep going

Come to the conclusion that letting cows for the night is not worth the hassle in situations like current.if you can get them out during the day its worth a lot to the house but fooling around with fences and bringing them back in at night is just work for nothing if they cant stay out all night.grass is disappearing fast even without being grazed

jaymla627

johnny122 wrote: »

Anyone want to comment on this feed?

Is it a limerick company selling it looks like their docket, their rep tryed to sell us a load of that for 240 a ton last week was politely declined alot of cheap crap fillers in it at high rates pke and maize gluten especially, they are making a fortune out of that nut easily 40-50 a ton

RightTurnClyde

Well lads what do ye make of this one, it's 16% and 98UFL
28 Maize
20 Barley
18 Rape
15 Palm
12 Distillers
2 MegaFat

freedominacup

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Well lads what do ye make of this one, it's 16% and 98UFL
28 Maize
20 Barley
18 Rape
15 Palm
12 Distillers
2 MegaFat

A small amount of soya wouldn't go astray.

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

Aside from extreme hi yielding herds with loads of groups, cattle finishers or out farms I can't see the need for feeder wagons

You either have a feeder behind a tractor, or a feeder in the parlor...the easy choice would have to be the parlor feeders. At 4/ha I presume Brown is buying in feed.

Green barley would be easily forward bought from a local farmer at €130 now, or you could buy from merchant at €250. Swings and roundabouts, it just depends on where you want to blow your money really.

Dawggone

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Well lads what do ye make of this one, it's 16% and 98UFL
28 Maize
20 Barley
18 Rape
15 Palm
12 Distillers
2 MegaFat

I'd dump the palm and distillers. Replace the rape for full fat rape and add hipro soya. Full fat rape and soya work well together at 50/50.

RightTurnClyde

Dawggone wrote: »

I'd dump the palm and distillers. Replace the rape for full fat rape and add hipro soya. Full fat rape and soya work well together at 50/50.

Would the fiber be very low on that?

kowtow

Am loving the National submissions to the EU regarding milk intervention. How did we ever think these nations could be integrated as one?

The Brits want no intervention at all, just a new futures market.

The Irish want to be allowed to produce twice as much, as long as someone takes it off their hands and the money is guaranteed.

And the French want to be paid to produce nothing at all.

You couldn't make it up.

kevthegaff

Do rations get caught in the bin lads for the parlour, is the call mag evenly distributed?

Dawggone

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Would the fiber be very low on that?

I wouldn't be buying fiber in a nut Clyde.

If you really want to make a decent feed I would add a little toasted soya. It just hits the high numbers.

Dawggone

kowtow wrote: »

Am loving the National submissions to the EU regarding milk intervention. How did we ever think these nations could be integrated as one?

The Brits want no intervention at all, just a new futures market.

The Irish want to be allowed to produce twice as much, as long as someone takes it off their hands and the money is guaranteed.

And the French want to be paid to produce nothing at all.

You couldn't make it up.

Link Kowtow?

The French offering has history, remember set-aside. The Irish solution has history also.

I like the British idea.


It's surely better than the NZ solution?

mf240

Barley soya bean (dehulled) soya hulls maize and distillers in a nut is what I'm feeding at the moment.

That's an off the shelf nut in a smallish local merchants.

stretch film

Made up a first ever batch of yoghurt milk. Bit smelly but consistent so presume everything is ok.

Transitioning onto it last few days.
Noticed some of the younger calves scouring (white) this evening.

Is it just coincidental and the scour was on the way anyway or can younger calves get an upset moving onto the yoghurt.

Do people treat the scour with fluids as normal .I presume so.

RightTurnClyde

kowtow wrote: »

Am loving the National submissions to the EU regarding milk intervention. How did we ever think these nations could be integrated as one?

The Brits want no intervention at all, just a new futures market.

The Irish want to be allowed to produce twice as much, as long as someone takes it off their hands and the money is guaranteed.

And the French want to be paid to produce nothing at all.

You couldn't make it up.

Und was sagt die Deutschen

Brown Podzol

Dawggone wrote: »

You either have a feeder behind a tractor, or a feeder in the parlor...the easy choice would have to be the parlor feeders. At 4/ha I presume Brown is buying in feed.

Green barley would be easily forward bought from a local farmer at €130 now, or you could buy from merchant at €250. Swings and roundabouts, it just depends on where you want to blow your money really.

I know the wagon would give me more options but I would hate the depreciation and extra work. I can't think of anything easier than pressing buttons in the parlour. The main feeding passage was built 25 years ago 20ft wide so as to accommodate a wagon, but I have resisted the urge to purchase one since. I will buy the barley or wheat and whole crop it.

Timmaay

Dawggone wrote: »

You either have a feeder behind a tractor, or a feeder in the parlor...the easy choice would have to be the parlor feeders. At 4/ha I presume Brown is buying in feed.

Green barley would be easily forward bought from a local farmer at €130 now, or you could buy from merchant at €250. Swings and roundabouts, it just depends on where you want to blow your money really.

Can no parlour feeders practically handle ration? Or is it too dusty and slow for cows to eat? How much of a saving is there for using a simple 3 way mix over a nut at 250?

kowtow

RightTurnClyde wrote:

Und was sagt die Deutschen

Not sure they've spoken yet.

But if the Germans did speak they'd announce that the Irish caused the problem in the first place because our undisciplined cows are addicted to grass.

As a punishment they'll make us bail out the well behaved German farmers and then buy them another set of new banks for good measure.

Buford T. Justice XIX

kowtow wrote: »

Not sure they've spoken yet.

But if the Germans did speak they'd announce that the Irish caused the problem in the first place because our undisciplined cows are addicted to grass.

As a punishment they'll make us bail out the well behaved German farmers and then buy them another set of new banks for good measure.

Ouch...

kevthegaff

kowtow wrote: »

Not sure they've spoken yet.

But if the Germans did speak they'd announce that the Irish caused the problem in the first place because our undisciplined cows are addicted to grass.

As a punishment they'll make us bail out the well behaved German farmers and then buy them another set of new banks for good measure.

Was reading on a UK Forum and they were blaming the Irish too, even saying our reliance on potatoes pre famine had similarities to our rise in milk production. Couldn't believe what I was reading, but from my times in the UK I always got a hint of resentment. Tho that was at football games...

kowtow

kevthegaff wrote:

from my times in the UK I always got a hint of resentment. Tho that was at football games...

I think if there is resentment it's confined to certain small areas, often those where Irish Labourers 'took' local jobs decades and centuries ago.

My aged mother still lives in the UK and she maintains that it's a very uneducated sign in an English man if he betrays any resentment towards the Irish.

She recently discovered Barrys tea in waitrose and is very pleased. We haven't the heart to point out to her that it's in the Ethnic Foods section.

RightTurnClyde

kowtow wrote: »

She recently discovered Barrys tea in waitrose and is very pleased. We haven't the heart to point out to her that it's in the Ethnic Foods section.

LOL
:):):):):):)

keep going

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Sold/gave a small lorry load of calves to my normal calf buyer yesterday morning, 1/3 fr bulls, 2/3's jex bulls, from 3 wks down to 10 days. €60/€70 for fr bulls, nothing for the jex's, said if he got sale for them he'd pay me something nxt wk, he's reasonably trustworthy.
I dropped bvd samples into the pick up point in local mart yesterday, and met one or two lads who joked with me bout my calves only making €2 earlier. Found out my man had put the four youngest/smallest jexs through the ring in my name. I would never put this type of calf through the mart, even though they were healthy, clean etc, they were too small/young for the mart.
Am I right to be a bit peed off with this guy, or should I just suck it up?

Crem?

keep going

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

FYI, for any who hasn't dealt with the banks in a while, ICBF reports are a big player now

Definitely true, they even rang me to know why my stars for milk supplied per cow was so much lower , they had no problem with my explanation of things moving in the night.

frazzledhome

kowtow wrote: »

I think if there is resentment it's confined to certain small areas, often those where Irish Labourers 'took' local jobs decades and centuries ago.

My aged mother still lives in the UK and she maintains that it's a very uneducated sign in an English man if he betrays any resentment towards the Irish.

She recently discovered Barrys tea in waitrose and is very pleased. We haven't the heart to point out to her that it's in the Ethnic Foods section.

Lol

frazzledhome

keep going wrote: »

Come to the conclusion that letting cows for the night is not worth the hassle in situations like current.if you can get them out during the day its worth a lot to the house but fooling around with fences and bringing them back in at night is just work for nothing if they cant stay out all night.grass is disappearing fast even without being grazed

Couldn't agree with you on that one. When things were really bad 3hrs morning and 3 hrs evening grazing with no silage worked really well. I know that can't be continue long term with out silage or you'd skin your cows.

We brought them back in at 8pm, a real pain in the whole but worked well and cows did well.

RightTurnClyde

stretch film wrote: »

Made up a first ever batch of yoghurt milk. Bit smelly but consistent so presume everything is ok.

Transitioning onto it last few days.
Noticed some of the younger calves scouring (white) this evening.

Is it just coincidental and the scour was on the way anyway or can younger calves get an upset moving onto the yoghurt.

Do people treat the scour with fluids as normal .I presume so.

Mine used to get a touch loose sometimes on the switch over, especially younger ones.. Treat them as you usually would, it's more than likely just a digestive. After a few days and the curdling gets going in their stomachs they'll tighten up. I've often wondered is this caused by the younger calfs rumen not ready yet for the yogurt. They'll adjust after 24-48 hrs, you won't look back.