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Damo810

visatorro wrote: »

when asked how many I'm milking I always reply ' sure I'm milking them all'

Get the same when asked "what are they milking" - "Milk"

Greengrass1

Would I be mad to back pure je here? Love the idea of a pb herd of jerseys

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Would I be mad to back pure je here? Love the idea of a pb herd of jerseys

Certainly not ,love the pure Jersey .going to look at a few in a few weeks.milky high solids Dutch/Canadian breeding

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

Certainly not ,love the pure Jersey .going to look at a few in a few weeks.milky high solids Dutch/Canadian breeding

Wouldn't be interested in the Canadian. Too milky and very light boned the Danish are very strong boned and can still put out 5000l plus.
Would be buying in so could take 10 yrs before I have a good number of pb

RightTurnClyde

If I was starting again, my ideal setup would be 200 pure breed Jerseys stocked at 3.6 on OAD all year round.
2 hrs a day in the pit in the morning and free to farm away for the rest of the day.

frazzledhome

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

If I was starting again, my ideal setup would be 200 pure breed Jerseys stocked at 3.6 on OAD all year round.
2 hrs a day in the pit in the morning and free to farm away for the rest of the day.

Sounds perfect. What solids would they do?

RightTurnClyde

frazzledhome wrote: »

Sounds perfect. What solids would they do?

If you could knock out 80-90k kgms with no labour cost, I'd say it could be a profitable little business.

Greengrass1

frazzledhome wrote: »

Sounds perfect. What solids would they do?

I'd wager 400- 420 with little to no meal

jaymla627

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I'd wager 400- 420 with little to no meal

It's the calves and training then in that would be the biggest problem, their stubborn little yokes only matched by brown Swiss for refusing to take milk other then from its mother, worked beside a large pb jersey farm before and it was commonplace that calves had to be left on cows, farmer was saying you could leave them for two days hungry and still point blank refused the bottle but the minute you let the cow in they where in under her having a field day

Greengrass1

jaymla627 wrote: »

It's the calves and training then in that would be the biggest problem, their stubborn little yokes only matched by brown Swiss for refusing to take milk other then from its mother, worked beside a large pb jersey farm before and it was commonplace that calves had to be left on cows, farmer was saying you could leave them for two days hungry and still point blank refused the bottle but the minute you let the cow in they where in under her having a field day

Lol yeah the few we have are stubborn yokes. Try getting them into the parlour or crush if they don't want to go you'll give up before they will.
If sexed semen was more consistent it would sort the bull calf problem too

frazzledhome

jaymla627 wrote: »

It's the calves and training then in that would be the biggest problem, their stubborn little yokes only matched by brown Swiss for refusing to take milk other then from its mother, worked beside a large pb jersey farm before and it was commonplace that calves had to be left on cows, farmer was saying you could leave them for two days hungry and still point blank refused the bottle but the minute you let the cow in they where in under her having a field day

Had a few here in the early days, most obnoxious animals. You get one chance to put in cups or wait

kowtow

jaymla627 wrote: »

It's the calves and training then in that would be the biggest problem

Who was it who said that he would shoot the Jersey bull calves, only that the poor little b****ds would insist on sucking the barrel when he tried.

td5man

frazzledhome wrote: »

Had a few here in the early days, most obnoxious animals. You get one chance to put in cups or wait

Neighbour had a few brown Swiss calves said they were nearly impossible to rear.

whelan2

Bought 2 mox bull calves for kids for Christmas a few years ago. 1 of them refused to drink. Even my dad had never seen anything like it.

mf240

Brown swiss cows are supposed to have a lovely temperment.

Wouldnt mind a couple of them.

solwhit12

mf240 wrote: »

Brown swiss cows are supposed to have a lovely temperment.

Wouldnt mind a couple of them.[/quote

I have 2 of them and they are right cranky c**ts they would take the hand of you taking of the clusters.

caseman

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I'd wager 400- 420 with little to no meal

don't think you would get those solids on oad.

Greengrass1

caseman wrote: »

don't think you would get those solids on oad.

Know of a man in Cork doing it with jex

caseman

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Know of a man in Cork doing it with jex

Alot of fine tuning to get a herd of cows to that standard on oad.
Is he long milking oad

Greengrass1

caseman wrote: »

Alot of fine tuning to get a herd of cows to that standard on oad.
Is he long milking oad

New entrant 3 yrs I think.He said a few words at moorepark that's what how I heard about him. His adivisor pulled him out of the crowd

RightTurnClyde

mf240 wrote: »

Brown swiss cows are supposed to have a lovely temperment.

Wouldnt mind a couple of them.

Had a bunch of pb BS up until a couple of years ago. Pure pets. Very fond of the cows. But...
Their pb calves are the THICKEST fcuks ever put on the face of the planet. How they made their way through evolution is beyond me. They have such a want to die young its unbelievable.
The crosses are better as calves, but you'd want to have all your affairs in order. the day you put clusters on them for the first time. Once you and her make it through the first few days of Parlour training the crosses are super super cows. Crossed with a HO they're a fantastic cow.

Mehaffey1

Going to be first day of TAD milking with the fun and games begun between the two new staff members. One brought the cows in and lost the petrol cap off his bike then stole the cap off the other new boys. Very sly but shame they're two different caps from different years so I know he's done the old switcheroo!

jaymla627

Mehaffey1 wrote: »

Going to be first day of TAD milking with the fun and games begun between the two new staff members. One brought the cows in and lost the petrol cap off his bike then stole the cap off the other new boys. Very sly but shame they're two different caps from different years so I know he's done the old switcheroo!

The only thing worse then a space cadet like that is one that's a sly little f**k wit too, if he's at that craic already I wouldn't let him next nor near the cowshed when their's a chance he will be milking the colostrum/antibiotic herd

Greengrass1

https://youtu.be/M11kJJ2cGBo
Lots of great tips in this. Really would prefer a straight through looking at how smooth cows run through that parlour

browned

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I'd wager 400- 420 with little to no meal

Is say youd struggle to get those solids at a 3.6 Sr. You'd get those solids at closer to 2.5.

browned

Greengrass1 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/M11kJJ2cGBo
Lots of great tips in this. Really would prefer a straight through looking at how smooth cows run through that parlour

Those scissor gates make a huge impact on cow flow in those parlours.

kowtow

Slightly off topic but the piece below make sense? wasn't Coveney running around telling us that the US had it's tongue hanging out for Irish grass fed beef - and now it turns out that it isn't grass fed according to the rules and only fit for hamburgers?

Sometimes I despair.

The export target for Irish beef in the US should be carcass trimmings which would be used to manufacture burgers.

Current assumptions are that beef promoted to potential buyers as grass-fed would be the primary target.

However, it is becoming clear that the US requires cattle to be produced under much tougher standards than Ireland before their beef can be retailed under a government approved grass-fed retail label.

In contrast, demand for manufacturing beef is overwhelming because 60% of beef in the US is ground for mince and this is the market area in which Americans are saying demand for imported beef will be strongest.

Ground beef values have doubled over the last 10 years, lifting by 25% over the last two years.

Further price rises were expected on the back of a drought induced slump in domestic production and the blocking of feeding cattle imports from Canada and Mexico as a result of recently adopted regulations on country of origin labelling (COOL).

The product most likely to be welcomed from Ireland would be 90% certified lean cow beef trimmings which would be blended with fattier trimmings produced in the US itself to create burger mince with a texture and flavour acceptable to US consumers.

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/us-market-offers-an-outlet-for-uk-carcass-trimmings/

Timmaay

How much should I be paying for grazing? Cover of 15/1700 on it, alot of clover (got no nitrogen after the 1st cut). Its from a neighbour who I got a 1st cut off, he is under stocked currently. I'm not under huge pressure on the home farm, but if I unloaded the heifers to there it would be a useful insurance against anymore drought (ground definitely drying out again here). I've no idea what to value the grass at though ha?

Deepsouthwest

Timmaay wrote: »

How much should I be paying for grazing? Cover of 15/1700 on it, alot of clover (got no nitrogen after the 1st cut). Its from a neighbour who I got a 1st cut off, he is under stocked currently. I'm not under huge pressure on the home farm, but if I unloaded the heifers to there it would be a useful insurance against anymore drought (ground definitely drying out again here). I've no idea what to value the grass at though ha?

Enough to let him know ur a fine fellow who might get first option if he ever decided to let it out long term.

Bullocks

Timmaay wrote: »

How much should I be paying for grazing? Cover of 15/1700 on it, alot of clover (got no nitrogen after the 1st cut). Its from a neighbour who I got a 1st cut off, he is under stocked currently. I'm not under huge pressure on the home farm, but if I unloaded the heifers to there it would be a useful insurance against anymore drought (ground definitely drying out again here). I've no idea what to value the grass at though ha?

It couldn't be alot , if he was a decent skin he should be happy if you ate it tight if he is under stocked and left it topped maybe for a nice regrowth when he needs it later