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Year 4: "It's a game of inches"

  • 23-07-2015 9:39am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭


    Decided to chronicle a return to fitness as a reminder for the next year of where I am coming from and where I get to in terms of my running.

    Currently injured and am unable to do any sort of running for the next few weeks so I am making due with what I can. Using this time as a pre-base phase doing what I can to boost the aerobic endurance before I get into base phase.

    I upped my calorie intake dramatically out of necessity for injury recovery so I am eating like a horse but at the same time trying to not eat to excess given the decrease in activity levels.

    Week 1

    Monday - 30 minutes aerobic cross training at Z2 (approx 55-60% HRR)

    Currently working off slightly outdated HR but I am unable to do any sort of testing in order to establish current values. Not ideal but only using as a reference for the time being till.

    Tuesday - 20 minutes conditioning

    Mostly body weight work with no upper limb movement. Again not ideal but good chance to focus on area's of interest before I return to ground impact stress of running.

    Wednesday - 50 min aerobic cross training (alternating HR's between Z2-Z3, roughly 65-80% HRR for 25 min)

    Despite the injury I am upbeat and have been taking my recovery even more serious than my training had been in the lead up. Hopefully the effort being put in to getting back on my feet will spill over into the training when I finally do get going.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Nothing like an injury to focus the mind on what you really want :) Best of everything with the road to recovery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    Good to see a few good new logs starting up,best of luck with the injury


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Best of luck with the recovery & the log


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    Really sorry you're injured. Hope you're recovered soon. Obviously not good you're injured, but interesting to see how its dealt with.

    So no upper limb exercises, does that exclude swimming? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Really sorry you're injured. Hope you're recovered soon. Obviously not good you're injured, but interesting to see how its dealt with.

    So no upper limb exercises, does that exclude swimming? ;)


    :D

    Haha unfortunately yes, I would probably end up at the bottom of the Liffey if I attempted it ;)

    It's a bit of a frustrating injury as it rules out runs, bike (bar spin bike), elliptical cross trainer and any sort of exercise that has any sort of vibration effect so fairly limited in what I can do for the next few weeks. Thankfully I should be able to start running in the next 3-4 weeks depending on how quick heals, but any sort of resistance work is out for 8-12 weeks.

    In mean time training by HR, paying attention to the diet, plenty of physio and rehab work, pending clearance


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Best of luck with the recovery. Any particular goals for the year once you're fully back on your feet?


    ps - really enjoying your contributions to the forum:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Ososlo wrote: »
    Best of luck with the recovery. Any particular goals for the year once you're fully back on your feet?


    ps - really enjoying your contributions to the forum:)

    Thanks,

    The aim is a good cross country campaign. Given that the new scheduling is still not fully decided I haven't chosen particular target races just yet until see how the shape of the season lines up.

    Hoping to use this as a springboard, to what exactly is yet to be decided


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Intermediates probably Sunday the 18th, Leinster novices the week after?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    RayCun wrote: »
    Intermediates probably Sunday the 18th, Leinster novices the week after?

    November or December? Will draw up the race schedule over the coming weeks hopefully and by then I can make amendments to training to accommodate race plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    November or December? Will draw up the race schedule over the coming weeks hopefully and by then I can make amendments to training to accommodate race plan.

    October.
    Which is very early. Maybe Cecil got confused...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Thursday - 20 minutes conditioning

    Had to get creative with this one as I was limited for both time and space so ended up with a good bit of bodyweight work in a very confined space (i.e changing room cubicle) Not ideal but working with what I had. In end a decent conditioning session mind you.


    Friday Treatment + Rehab

    Conservative treatment in order to speed up the healing. Good news is that I can start working on a bit of mobility work in order to ensure full functional range of movement in the arm after injury so rehab program beginning in earnest with 15 minute mobility work twice a day.

    Saturday 20 min aerobic cross training at Z1 (approx >50% HRR)

    Sunday 30 minutes aerobic cross training at Z2 (approx 55-60% HRR) + 20 minutes conditioning

    Travelling Saturday and Sunday so fit this in late when I got home. All in all this week coincided with what would have been my break so the volume was decreased dramatically but enough to help aid the recovery process. Will start base building from next week hopefully and transition back to running before too long.

    It has given me a chance to start planning an Annual overview in depth and hopefully do things right from the beginning and continue good practices as the training increases back to normal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Bad luck getting an injury that halts most forms of exercise - how long is the recovery expected to take ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    kit3 wrote: »
    Bad luck getting an injury that halts most forms of exercise - how long is the recovery expected to take ?

    Full recovery will take 8 -12 weeks but I should be able to get back on my feet much sooner than that just may have a few issues with arm carriage and no weight work in that period.

    Optimistically aiming to be running in the next 2 weeks hopefully pending how the rehab goes in the mean time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭TRR_the_turd


    Thursday - 20 minutes conditioning

    Had to get creative with this one as I was limited for both time and space so ended up with a good bit of bodyweight work in a very confined space (i.e changing room cubicle) Not ideal but working with what I had. In end a decent conditioning session mind you

    Changing room cubicle? you need to explain that one :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Changing room cubicle? you need to explain that one :)

    Had a bit of time after work but not enough to get home or gym given I am relying on public transport so the only place I was going to get any work done was work changing rooms (we have shower facilities)

    Basically did all sorts of variations of body weight squats, deadlifts, calf raises hip hiking exercises and everything that I could think of that was running specific that could be done in the confines of a standing position with about slightly metre square.

    In the final stages of selling the workout plan the US federal Bureau of Prisons after it's pilot program was a success :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    RayCun wrote: »
    October.
    Which is very early. Maybe Cecil got confused...

    juvenile even ages will be mid-October, and Dublin Intermediates might be the same day. Not decided yet.

    Leinster novices are always marathon weekend


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Week 2

    Monday AM 30 minutes aerobic cross training at Z2 (approx 55-60% HRR)
    Monday PM 40 minutes aerobic cross training at Z2 (approx 55-60% HRR)

    Tuesday AM 30 minutes aerobic cross training at Z2 (approx 55-60% HRR)
    Tuesday PM 45 minutes aerobic cross training at Z2 (approx 55-60% HRR)

    Wednesday AM
    50 minute aerobic cross training - progression
    (10 minute increments from approx 50% HRR to 77% HRR)

    Still on the hamster wheel of a spin bike but this week I have started to get back to consistent training and building the aerobic fitness.

    These sessions have been coupled with rehab which is going very well and have seen a dramatic improvement in range of motion in the arm to the point where I can, as of today, lift the arm above eye level. Won't be attempting the hammer or any such event any time soon but hopefully before long I will be out of the sling and have enough arm swing to be able to start easy running again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    The rat race continues.....

    Wednesday PM 30 minutes aerobic cross training at Z1 (approx 50% HRR)

    Thursday AM 40 minutes aerobic cross training at Z2 (approx 55-60% HRR)
    Thursday PM 30 minutes aerobic cross training at Z1 (approx 50% HRR)

    Friday AM 30 minutes aerobic cross training at Z3 (approx 65-70% HRR)
    Friday PM 30 minutes aerobic cross training at Z1 (approx 50% HRR)

    Saturday 70 minutes aerobic cross training (approx 55-60% HRR)

    Found the evenings a little harder to get HR up, not sure sure the issue but I would imagine that late night workouts are playing a role on this.

    Rehab continuing and lots of mobility work (2x20 minutes rehab a day) have seen major improvements but a few aches the last day or two just reminding me that it won't be a quick process to be back to full activity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    RayCun wrote: »
    juvenile even ages will be mid-October, and Dublin Intermediates might be the same day. Not decided yet.

    Leinster novices are always marathon weekend

    Managed to compile a bit of a list so can work from this to start planning atleast

    Date| Race
    27/09/2015| Star of the Sea Cross Country
    04/10/2015 |Dublin Novice Cross Country
    17/10/2015 |Teachers BHAA XC
    25/10/2015 |Leinster Novice Cross Country
    08/11/2015 |Leinster Intermediate Cross Country
    14/11/2015 |Teachers BHAA XC
    22/11/2015 |AAI Inter County XC
    06/12/2015 |AAI National Novice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Sacksian


    Managed to compile a bit of a list so can work from this to start planning atleast

    Date| Race
    27/09/2015| Star of the Sea Cross Country
    04/10/2015 |Dublin Novice Cross Country
    17/10/2015 |Teachers BHAA XC
    25/10/2015 |Leinster Novice Cross Country
    08/11/2015 |Leinster Intermediate Cross Country
    14/11/2015 |Teachers BHAA XC
    22/11/2015 |AAI Inter County XC
    06/12/2015 |AAI National Novice

    Good luck with the recovery and schedule...great to see a fellow rehabber planning for xc already! I'd say I'm 50/50 for Dublin novice but that's the target for the first race back.

    Do you know when (or if) the Gerry Farnan is on this year? Should be the 18th, but haven't seen or heard any word of it anywhere, but I wouldn't have thought it'd just be dropped.

    All the best with the rehab - you could well find yourself fitter/stronger at the end of the it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Sacksian wrote: »
    Good luck with the recovery and schedule...great to see a fellow rehabber planning for xc already! I'd say I'm 50/50 for Dublin novice but that's the target for the first race back.

    Do you know when (or if) the Gerry Farnan is on this year? Should be the 18th, but haven't seen or heard any word of it anywhere, but I wouldn't have thought it'd just be dropped.

    All the best with the rehab - you could well find yourself fitter/stronger at the end of the it.

    Couldn't find it listed anywhere even on AAI site under "Autumn Classic" again or on the MSB site so not too sure to be honest.

    Thanks, yeah I am using the injury as a blessing in having a proper build up rather than chasing fitness for racing. Aim this year is to take a more long term and progressive approach to the year as a whole.

    Novice will probably be the 1st target for me also with hopefully culminating in National Novice as the target race overall but will see how it goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭TRR_the_turd


    Couldn't find it listed anywhere even on AAI site under "Autumn Classic" again or on the MSB site so not too sure to be honest.

    Thanks, yeah I am using the injury as a blessing in having a proper build up rather than chasing fitness for racing. Aim this year is to take a more long term and progressive approach to the year as a whole.

    Novice will probably be the 1st target for me also with hopefully culminating in National Novice as the target race overall but will see how it goes.



    Was talking to someone in Msb last week and they said it wasn't going ahead. Ran into some problems but didn't get a chance to find out why.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Sunday OFF

    Treatment and more importantly, the all clear to run a little bit earlier than I had thought so I was happy out

    Week 3

    Monday
    AM)4 miles easy (146 bpm/8.02 min pace)
    PM) General Core

    Tuesday
    AM) 4 miles easy (150 bpm/8.17 min pace)
    PM) 5.5 miles easy (141 bpm/ 8.05 min pace) + Foam Rolling

    Wednesday
    6.9 miles steady (155 bpm/7.51 min pace) + 20 min Drills

    Thursday
    AM) 5.5 miles easy (145 bpm/8.26 min pace)
    PM) Foam Rolling

    Friday
    AM) 5 miles easy (145 bpm/8.23 min pace)
    PM) 3 miles easy (140 bpm/8.42 min pace)

    Saturday
    7 miles with last mile at LT (144/173 bpm - 8.35/6.23 min pace)

    Sunday
    9 miles easy (146 bpm/8.58 min pace) + mobility work

    *Daily Rehab of 20 min

    This month I am slowly building back up. With the arm swing still limited I thought it would be a good chance to just focus on running by effort so running off HR for the next month while building up a base before going into general training.

    Easy paces are slow for sure but I think it will serve me well in long run (no pun intended to build it up steady and methodically. It is also giving the base a focus without having the urge to rush back to full training as well as trying to adopt good habits with regards the supplementary stuff

    The shoulder is also improving and have moved to eccentric stability loading exercises and though there is huge weakness there the range of un resisted movement is pretty good.

    The weekend I had a bit of a polar outlook on. With my paces being so slow all week I was surprised to see the pace after of the LT mile. The other side of that coin was that my 9 miler saw steady regression of pace in the last three miles that obvious shows aerobically I am lacking.

    Still it's a 50 mile week and a decent start


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Week 3

    Monday AM 4 miles easy (147 bpm/8.28 min pace)
    Monday PM 5 miles easy (146 bpm/8.58 min pace)


    Tuesday AM 5 miles easy (143 bpm/ 8.33 min pace)
    Tuesday PM 7 miles easy (140 bpm/ 8.40 min pace) + General Core


    Wednesday AM
    70 min progression (+5bpm per 10 min) - 9.12 miles (153 bpm/7.40 min pace) + Hip Mobility and Strength

    Interval 1 1.14 miles (137 bpm/8.46 min pace)
    Interval 2 1.17 miles (143 bpm/8.33 min pace)
    Interval 3 1.24 miles (148 bpm/8.04 min pace)
    Interval 4 1.30 miles (153 bpm/7.42 min pace)
    Interval 5 1.36 miles (158 bpm/7.21 min pace)
    Interval 6 1.42 miles (163 bpm/7.03 min pace)
    Interval 7 1.49 miles (167 bpm/6.42 min pace)

    Happy enough with the start to this week. The body seems to be getting used to the HRM training and is has started to hit below the 145 that I was struggling to get low than last week. Monday's high PM heart rate was down to a short turnaround between the runs I imagine

    Today's session went well felt in control at all times and the nature of the session meant that I was tuned in at all times to effort to the point where 9x1 mile loops didn't even get too monotonous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Thursday 6 miles easy (144 bpm/ 9.04 min pace) + drills

    Friday AM 5 miles easy (141 bpm/ 8.00 min pace)
    Friday PM 6 miles easy (143 bpm/ 7.44 min pace)

    Saturday AM
    7 miles with last mile at LT (141/172 bpm - 8.13/5.54 min pace)

    The long patient road continues. The second half of this week has seen a significant progression. Glad to see the easy runs starting to return to the sub 8 minute pace as well as sub 6 LT mile which was a huge surprise. The difference a week makes I suppose. A few more weeks till I start with proper sessions but if early indications are anything to go by I should be fairly strong by the tune that I get to that stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Sunday 15 miles easy (146 bpm/7.56 min pace)

    Monday AM 4 miles easy (134 bpm/8.29 min pace)
    Monday PM 7 miles easy + 5*7 sec Hill Sprints (141 bpm/8.35 min pace)

    Tuesday AM 4 miles easy (143 bpm/8.05 min pace)
    Tuesday PM 2 mile warm up + 5*7 min steady w/ 3 min jog rec

    Splits:

    Rep 1: (152 bpm/ 6.59 min pace) , 3 min rec (140 bpm)
    Rep 2: (153 bpm/ 6.55 min pace) , 3 min rec (145 bpm)
    Rep 3: (154 bpm/ 6.54 min pace) , 3 min rec* (131 bpm)
    Rep 4: (166 bpm/ 6.40 min pace) , 3 min rec* (130 bpm)
    Rep 5: (165 bpm/ 6.43 min pace) , 3 min rec (130 bpm)

    Total: (146 bpm/7.53 min pace)

    The foundation continues to grow.....

    Got to the stage now where I am actually getting to the point where the effort levels match the pace to be able to start running with people again so a bit of company on Sunday for the long hilly run with Dublinrunner. went better than expected although heat contributed to the HR drifting a bit higher than I would have liked in the last 3 miles. Happy none the less to get it done.

    Introduced hill sprints and strides this week. Initially had decided to add the odd diagonals session to my plan but happy with how things are going to the point I decided to change my approach to turnover work and not confine it to a solitary session. Monday involved 7 second hill sprints pretty much all out with full recovery ala Magness.

    Tuesday was another chance to catch up with people so had the company of TBL and quirky. This was the first time I was looking at pace rather than HR. Happy to say though that the HR's for this one tied in quite well for my quality day. HR a little high on the last two reps due to the progressive nature of the session and the fact it was damn warm. In the end myself and TBL both came out of it with exactly what was needed training wise.

    Was also great to see so many familiar faces around the park with AuldManKing and Miss Overpronator kindly letting us guests share their home turf for the evening that was in it.

    Mileage is tipping along very nicely with 72 last week so hoping to keep it going consistently till the end of the month at which stage I am hoping to get back in the gym as well as sessions.

    The daily rehab continues (have now progressed to the use of light resistance bands) and I am down to a solitary movement eliciting pain so progress is there as well as keeping a good routine of general core strength routines, hip mobility routines and form drills almost daily (well 4-5 times a week).

    Happy with how it is progressing and looking back on last years log I am in a better place than I was despite the shoulder setback.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Jaysus - pennys dropped. (157 posts later.....even the arm in a sling didn't click with me)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    Jaysus - pennys dropped. (157 posts later.....even the arm in a sling didn't click with me)

    sharp...very sharp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    At first had my reasons for the anonymity but after a while and the injury I needed the log for focus and rather than make a big deal out of being back I would just quietly blend back into the scenery.

    Was nice as well to be judged just on the words I typed rather than my history here. This place needs a new lease of life every once in a while so its nice for the old guard to take a step back and let others find there voice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Was talking to someone in Msb last week and they said it wasn't going ahead. Ran into some problems but didn't get a chance to find out why.

    Handed it back to Athletics Ireland - cant say why on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    At first had my reasons for the anonymity but after a while and the injury I needed the log for focus and rather than make a big deal out of being back I would just quietly blend back into the scenery.

    Was nice as well to be judged just on the words I typed rather than my history here. This place needs a new lease of life every once in a while so its nice for the old guard to take a step back and let others find there voice.

    Well, now that you are formally 'out', welcome back :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    PaulieC wrote: »
    sharp...very sharp

    He was still quicker than me (although I wasn't following the log). I only just copped following the link on the novices thread. I should have spotted the writing style a mile off!

    Anyway, good to have you back! Good to see that you're back running too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    Welcome back - Only figuring it out now!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Jesus lads you are all very slow :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Jesus lads you are all very slow :pac:

    in fairness I didn't log on for ages.................and I didn't like the cut of him initially....all knowledgeable and stuff.



    :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Thursday 6 miles easy (144 bpm/ 9.04 min pace) + drills

    Friday AM 5 miles easy (141 bpm/ 8.00 min pace)
    Friday PM 6 miles easy (143 bpm/ 7.44 min pace)

    Saturday AM
    7 miles with last mile at LT (141/172 bpm - 8.13/5.54 min pace)

    The long patient road continues. The second half of this week has seen a significant progression. Glad to see the easy runs starting to return to the sub 8 minute pace as well as sub 6 LT mile which was a huge surprise. The difference a week makes I suppose. A few more weeks till I start with proper sessions but if early indications are anything to go by I should be fairly strong by the tune that I get to that stage.


    Hey Myles. Glad things are going well. I was just wondering: if an LT run gets your HR up to 172, what's your max bpm? I only asked because mine is around 172/3, and LT doesn't involve max bpm, does it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    davedanon wrote: »
    Hey Myles. Glad things are going well. I was just wondering: if an LT run gets your HR up to 172, what's your max bpm? I only asked because mine is around 172/3, and LT doesn't involve max bpm, does it?

    Max HR was tested at 196 (simple hill test) which provided a basis when I started back running to use a guideline. The idea was to get the LT testing done actually in the next 10 days (wanted to establish a bit of aerobic fitness to give more accurate assessment going into the XC season)

    I am running off intensity levels based off HRR with the LT coming in at roughly 80-85% of HRR) this means I am aiming for roughly 171-174 bpm to be in the right intensity levels. I haven't done any testing yet so these are a general guideline used to make sure I am in or around the right effort levels.

    Recovery - below 60%
    Easy - 60-70%
    Steady - 70-75%
    MP - 75-80%
    HM - 80-85%

    There are always gonna be drawbacks but I am looking at this as a better barometer than pace for now as fitness builds quickly coming back from injury but also as over the winter the change in terrain and course profile make effort a better indicator than pace on effort levels and whether or not sessions go well.

    Edit: remind me to drop down your HRM to club this week :0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Max HR was tested at 196 (simple hill test) which provided a basis when I started back running to use a guideline. The idea was to get the LT testing done actually in the next 10 days (wanted to establish a bit of aerobic fitness to give more accurate assessment going into the XC season)

    I am running off intensity levels based off HRR with the LT coming in at roughly 80-85% of HRR) this means I am aiming for roughly 171-174 bpm to be in the right intensity levels. I haven't done any testing yet so these are a general guideline used to make sure I am in or around the right effort levels.

    Recovery - below 60%
    Easy - 60-70%
    Steady - 70-75%
    MP - 75-80%
    HM - 80-85%

    There are always gonna be drawbacks but I am looking at this as a better barometer than pace for now as fitness builds quickly coming back from injury but also as over the winter the change in terrain and course profile make effort a better indicator than pace on effort levels and whether or not sessions go well.

    Edit: remind me to drop down your HRM to club this week :0


    No hurry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Wednesday AM 4.1 miles easy (141 bpm/7.58 min pace)
    Wednesday PM 6 miles easy (140 bpm/8.13 min pace)

    Thursday 7 miles easy + 8*50m strides (143 bpm/8.12 min pace)

    Friday AM 5.1 miles easy (144 bpm/8.42 min pace)
    Friday PM 4 miles easy (143 bpm/8.30 min pace)

    Saturday OFF

    Sunday 11 miles easy (143 bpm/8.40 min pace)


    Unscheduled day off on Saturday however it's my first one in three weeks and made sure to not make a weekend of it so a handy one Sunday. HR started quite high which was to be expected after a few too many fizzy drinks the night before and a bad night sleep but leveled of and began to feel better as the run went on.

    A decent week considering I missed a day and happy enough with how its going just keep patiently building the consistency


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Week 4

    Monday 5.7 miles easy (8.13 min mile pace)

    Tuesday AM 5 miles easy (8.11 min pace)
    Tuesday PM 8 mile progression (ave. 7.37 min pace)

    Splits
    8.28,
    8.15,
    7.59,
    7.46,
    7.32,
    7.14,
    7.01,
    6.45,

    Wednesday AM 4 miles easy (8.12 min pace)
    Wednesday PM 13 miles easy (8.44 min pace)


    Haven't abandoned the HR stuff simply the HRM battery died Tuesday (Monday just forgot the strap) so I have been running blind, surprisingly however the splits have been remarkably similar.

    Based my progression off paces however aiming to go 15 sec quicker per mile finishing close to what I finished last progression run based off HR. Not ideal but the guts of a decent session were there. Looking back there were a couple of miles than I felt I was working a little too hard on for the effort I was supposed to be at but going by splits these seem to coincide with climbs and drags so I guess I am a bit better in tune with the body than previously.

    Wednesday evening was enjoyable hilly one with Krusty, and the DCM mentor duo themselves;Clearlier (good to meet you again) and Dubgal. This run made me realize just how little hills I have in my weekly training as we ran up around Bray head. Whether it was just the company or the focus needed for some of the more technical aspects but this flew in.

    Definitely think TBL is on to something with all these running rendezvous


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Thursday 7 miles easy (8.21 min pace)

    Friday 5.2 miles easy (8.17 min pace)

    Saturday AM 1.5 mile warm up, 5k tempo (5.59 min pace), 1.5 mile cooldown
    Saturday PM 3 miles easy (7.52 min pace)

    Sunday OFF

    Monday 5 miles easy (7.52 min pace)

    Tuesday OFF

    Wednesday 6 miles easy (8.06 min pace)
    Thursday 6 miles east (7.58 min pace)

    Friday OFF

    Saturday 6 miles easy (8.09 min pace)

    Sunday 14.8 miles easy (7.50 min pace)

    Time for an update. Headed off to Prague for a week last Saturday but with a midday flight decided to pop down to local park run and said I would throw in a few steady miles. When I got there I spotted one of the middle distance guys from the club who had won it the previous week and said he was looking to go under 18.30. While a little quicker than had planned I figured may as well and offered to pace him. Felt very controlled throughout this and felt I was never really getting out of my comfort zone. He began to tie up a little on the last mile and despite efforts to usher him on he fell short but still managed 18.34 on the watch so I was happy enough. Was being picked up for airport in 30 min so didn't have time to hang around. A handy 3 miles to cap the day off when landed in order to get the lay of the land and suss out running spots.

    Prague itself is a beautiful city but as KC had already advised me not a great one for running to be honest, cobble stones and very few nearby places to get much quality done still enough to keep me thinking over on what had been planned as a down week anyway. Did come across a nice little park overlooking the whole city which was worth the sharp never ending hairpin inclines to actually access the park itself.

    Maybe it is just the fact I am getting older but the gone are the days of debauchery on a lads holiday to the point where I came back for once with my fitness (and liver) in tact.

    Long day in airport on the way back so just a handy one to loosen the legs and clear the head. Feeling that little bit of a chill in the air at just the right time starting into sessions again this week. All in all I feel strong so I am hoping the last five weeks did me the world of good in the long term.

    Capped off the week with an early morning long run with the Doc tipping away nicely didn't even notice the fact I was missing the brekkie and (indeed a huge amount of food the previous day) and once parted ways threw in a few 7mm as I was rushing to get home.


    A new week and a new chapter. This is where the fun begins :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭TRR_the_turd



    Time for an update. Headed off to Prague for a week last Saturday but with a midday flight decided to pop down to local park run and said I would throw in a few steady miles. When I got there I spotted one of the middle distance guys from the club who had won it the previous week and said he was looking to go under 18.30. While a little quicker than had planned I figured may as well and offered to pace him. Felt very controlled throughout this and felt I was never really getting out of my comfort zone. He began to tie up a little on the last mile and despite efforts to usher him on he fell short but still managed 18.34 on the watch so I was happy enough. Was being picked up for airport in 30 min so didn't have time to hang around. A handy 3 miles to cap the day off when landed in order to get the lay of the land and suss out running spots.

    Typical of one of your pacing jobs ;):D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Typical of one of your pacing jobs ;):D

    Short of stopping to carry him those 4 seconds weren't coming so he took the win at least with me screaming and shouting at him all the way to the line haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Short of stopping to carry him those 4 seconds weren't coming so he took the win at least with me screaming and shouting at him all the way to the line haha

    You should have pipped him on the line. Teach the young whippersnapper a lesson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    davedanon wrote: »
    You should have pipped him on the line. Teach the young whippersnapper a lesson.

    Didn't have my barcode so rather let Tallaght colour sit a top Tymon lest our noisy neighbours forget ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Didn't have my barcode so rather let Tallaght colour sit a top Tymon lest our noisy neighbours forget ;)

    Ah yes, you were Unknown in 2nd. Good idea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Monday OFF

    Tuesday 2 miles easy, 10*1 min hills w/2.30 rec, 2 miles easy + 4 miles easy

    Last day off I plan to miss for quite some time. Was itching to go for this session as the base phase really got the bit between my teeth. Still not driving so I was in two minds on what hill to use. There was a really good one by work which is a killer though would mean 6-7 miles home after or a 5 mile warm up then the hills heading to Tymon. Opted for the 1st of the two given my first session back.

    Up to deerpark with body feeling okay. First rep and felt strong, maybe the base phase did me the world of good, good knee drive, felt relaxed running fast. Recover was generous enough at this stage as focused on running relaxed and fast for turnover.

    This was short lived however, after 4 I was sucking air, by rep 6 I was trying to keep my dinner down, by ten the legs were like jelly.

    Finished up, back to work picked up my gear and a long slow jaunt back to the house. Was very happy with the session itself though I was zonked for remainder of the day (guess that shows the effort was there)

    Back onto the ancillary work which have let slip over last 2 weeks so 20 minutes of conditioning exercises with resistance bands and shoulder rehab.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Do you have a specific target Myles ?

    Edit - apologies if I've missed it somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Monday OFF

    Tuesday 2 miles easy, 10*1 min hills w/2.30 rec, 2 miles easy + 4 miles easy

    question on the hill work out - I've been doing something similar recently, but I'm getting hung up on the recovery - trying to keep it to the same time as the rep (2m jog down R for a 2min hill sprint) or at the most a 1:3 ratio (1:30 R for a 1min hill sprint)

    What's your thoughts on recoveries for hill reps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    kit3 wrote: »
    Do you have a specific target Myles ?

    Edit - apologies if I've missed it somewhere

    Cross Country, Oct - Dec
    Roads, Jan - April
    Track, May - August

    Ultimately aiming for a good 10,000 next Summer (Highgate night of 10,000m PBs and National Seniors) but will be racing 5km-HM on Roads. For XC will target The Dublin Championship races and National Novice most likely as season ender.


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