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  • 19-07-2015 1:08am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭


    With so many things happening worldwide that people can be offended by do you think that sometimes people genuinely fake outrage just so they have something to be offended by? It just seems to me that more people take offense to more things now than they ever did. You can't say such and such a thing because so and so will be upset. I'm personally getting sick of it more and more each day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    Would you like a bit of Cake though ?

    21/25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Is this about minions...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 803 ✭✭✭jungleman


    Ugh it's just in vogue now.

    I am going to show everyone how liberal, forward thinking, tolerant, and in touch with humanity I am by being offended at your offensive statement. Furthermore I demand an apology. Blah blah blah blah blah.

    I can't fart in the shower these days without my nose being offended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    What kind of cake are you talking about? My world goes beyond minions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    Part of the narcisstic,whiney ass generation we find ourselves in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    Part of the narcisstic,whiney ass generation we find ourselves in.

    Some people need to get a grip that's for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    KKkitty wrote: »
    What kind of cake are you talking about? My world goes beyond minions.


    Nice Cake !

    21/25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I know what you mean KKkity.
    Ultimately these people are just assholes and as the_evasion_kid said... that's the generation we live in. Someone always seems to have a problem with something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    uch wrote: »
    Nice Cake !

    I'll be offended if it's not chocolate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    It's existed for far longer than the modern day.
    People are nosy. They like to get involved in other people's business.
    It's more noticeable now with the internet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    KKkitty wrote: »
    I'll be offended if it's not chocolate.

    Of course, sprinkles too !

    21/25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    I know what you mean KKkity.
    Ultimately these people are just assholes and as the_evasion_kid said... that's the generation we live in. Someone always seems to have a problem with something.

    I'm in my thirties and honestly have never seen or heard so many people taking offense to the most banal of things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    uch wrote: »
    Of course, sprinkles too !

    Good on you. Getting less offended now thanks :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Robsweezie


    KKKitty? an obvious racist !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    Robsweezie wrote: »
    KKKitty? an obvious racist !

    The third k is in lower case so I'm offended you'd think I'm racist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Red21


    KKkitty wrote: »
    With so many things happening worldwide that people can be offended by do you think that sometimes people genuinely fake outrage just so they have something to be offended by? It just seems to me that more people take offense to more things now than they ever did. You can't say such and such a thing because so and so will be upset. I'm personally getting sick of it more and more each day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be upset cause.... What you u like to say?would u like to cut someone down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Maybe there are some people like that.
    Some.

    But there are also plenty of people these days who want to shut down about discrimination or injustice by complaining about people taking offense to something (and they always post that tired old Stephen Fry video and use the phrase "special little snowflake").
    They tend to act as though anyone being offended by something is always irrelevant and not worth being considered by anyone else.
    Or they seem to mistake our freedom to choose to take into consideration someone being offended with an obligation not to take it into consideration.
    "Oh you're offended by me calling you 'a stupid c*nt?' Well I'm sorry, but that's not my problem!"

    Sometimes it's worth looking at why someone gets offended, and finding out if there's genuine discrimination of mistreatment going on.

    But I'm sure this new fad of pretending to have no empathy for others will go away in time.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yea the concept of being offended has entered into the public discourse in a bad way - and some people milk it - as always happens when a change in the public narrative happens. Fake outrage - a narrative of persecution - Oh ye on high protect me from offense!

    I think I come from the OFFEND me narrative not the "Sorry did I offend you and if so how?" one. I welcome offense. And I never want to respond to it with litigation, reports to moderators, or violence. I respond to it with the only words that it truly deserves. Which are "Oh really? I upset you? Can you detail for me exactly how and why and what I can do better in future" :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    All these Cake haters!

    21/25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    uch wrote: »
    All these Cake haters!

    All those cakes not being eaten makes me sad :( Less offense, more cake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    The manufactured indignation artists, bleeding hearts, bleeding craw-thumpers and chip-on-the-shoulder attention seekers. I get you but remember they are always welcome aboard boards - the safe haven for pessimists.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perhaps we need a war.

    Science, medicine and world peace have downgraded man's mortality to an abstraction. Freed from the challenges that made our world a hostile and dangerous environment, mankind no longer needs to strive and adapt in the way that made the species so great and so enterprising and so successful.

    You could argue that our world has become soft and so have our heads.

    We might just be the most degenerate spawn of our species to have walked the earth's floor for a hundred thousand years, or longer.

    On that cheerful note... does anyone know who won Big Brother in the end?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    Is it a fruit cake and is it fake? Most of us are fake to some degree? Displaying outrage or approval.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭eet fuk


    Why do you give a **** if someone is offended anyway? People have the power of communicating their opinions very easily now - so you're pretty much getting every side of the story.
    Everything will offend somebody; it's not a modern phenomenon. There are just more media to express disagreement is all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    Take note.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 820 ✭✭✭BunkMoreland


    You all sound like a bunch of offended whiney little bitches.

    I see a load of cake references, I'm guessing it's the latest fad from the boards clique? How hilarious!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    SJWs sorry to use the term have no sense of humour, they feign outrage whenever they hear or perceive an insult against one of their pet groups. They don't seem to get the whole concept that being equal means that all people are subject to ridicule and mockery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    Maybe there are some people like that.
    Some.

    But there are also plenty of people these days who want to shut down about discrimination or injustice by complaining about people taking offense to something (and they always post that tired old Stephen Fry video and use the phrase "special little snowflake").
    They tend to act as though anyone being offended by something is always irrelevant and not worth being considered by anyone else.
    Or they seem to mistake our freedom to choose to take into consideration someone being offended with an obligation not to take it into consideration.
    "Oh you're offended by me calling you 'a stupid c*nt?' Well I'm sorry, but that's not my problem!"

    Sometimes it's worth looking at why someone gets offended, and finding out if there's genuine discrimination of mistreatment going on.

    But I'm sure this new fad of pretending to have no empathy for others will go away in time.

    Another thing these people often do is take any negative feeling a person expresses towards something as being "offended" and then use that as an excuse to ignore that person's point of view.

    Look on many of the threads here and you'll see the first people to bring up the very concept of being offended are the ones telling people that being offended doesn't matter.
    Express anger, disgust or sadness at something and you'll be told you're actually just offended and it doesn't matter.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    KKkitty wrote: »
    It just seems to me that more people take offense to more things now than they ever did. You can't say such and such a thing because so and so will be upset. I'm personally getting sick of it more and more each day.

    I think the exact opposite, that we can say far more now than we could in years gone by.

    I grew up in a country where you could say little or nothing publicly against so many institutions, the Church, the GAA, politicians, your local bank manager etc. The only groups you could kick were minorities and the disadvantaged, so swearing was "you spa, you fag" and no one took offence to that. Anyone remember the reaction here when Sinead O'Connor tore up a photo of the Pope or Paisley called him the anti Christ, people nearly had strokes they were so offended.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    The problem with being offended is that no-one has to care that you're offended. You don't have a right not to be offended. As for apologising? "I'm sorry you're offended easily!"


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Giblet wrote: »
    The problem with being offended is that no-one has to care that you're offended. You don't have a right not to be offended. As for apologising? "I'm sorry you're offended easily!"

    Who said easily?

    Who said there is a need for an apology?

    If the KKK lynched someone, that would offend me. More, I would be outraged. But I would not expect them to apologise. Just because offence is taken does not per se mean it is easily taken.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Some people do seem to want to be offended...or to feel a slight against them. Create a drama, reclaim the centre of attention.
    Tis human nature sadly...and then the real issues get no focus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    "I am offended by xyz!"

    "too...bad?"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭strelok


    the issue isn't really the twats taking the offense, they've always been around in one form or another. just mary whitehouse with a different lick of paint on. it's the modern media amping the **** out of these assholes for clicks and ad revenue.

    the protein world furore is a perfect example of this. article after article about how disgracefully sexist it was, posters defaced, death threats levied, massive protest planned in some london park.
    ****ing 10 people turned up.

    it's grand to laugh at these idiots but don't get too worked up about it, they have no actual power and everybody (outside of a few journalists and bloggers) ****ing hates them anyway. to the best of my knowledge the most they've actually accomplished with their campaigns of radical feminist justice is that some student unions in the uk banned robin thickes rape anthem from SU sponsored events.

    bravo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I was at a match one time and things got a bit heated. 'Go way you ugly looking b0II0x from Clare' I said. How dare you!, How dare you! he shouted back, I'm not from Clare!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭blackcard


    KKkitty wrote: »
    With so many things happening worldwide that people can be offended by do you think that sometimes people genuinely fake outrage just so they have something to be offended by? It just seems to me that more people take offense to more things now than they ever did. You can't say such and such a thing because so and so will be upset. I'm personally getting sick of it more and more each day.

    You should complain to Joe about this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    I think it's true - people love a grievance. A good reason to put your offended nose in the air gives people such a self-righteous satisfaction. Of course it is an emotional, not a rational, pleasure: and not the wisest of such.

    I think "getting offended" fills some little gap in the psyche that would be better plugged by action, in the field of whatever-it-is-that-got-you-so-het-up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,852 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    You all sound like a bunch of offended whiney little bitches.

    I see a load of cake references, I'm guessing it's the latest fad from the boards clique? How hilarious!

    I for one welcome our new cake eating clique of boards overlords.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    @ dxhound2005 --

    "I for one welcome our new cake eating clique of boards overlords. "

    That would be a silver cake-board, no doubt ;-p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    People love being offended by things these days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    You could argue that our world has become soft and so have our heads.

    Indeed and groups like ISIS know it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    I think the exact opposite, that we can say far more now than we could in years gone by.

    I grew up in a country where you could say little or nothing publicly against so many institutions, the Church, the GAA, politicians, your local bank manager etc. The only groups you could kick were minorities and the disadvantaged, so swearing was "you spa, you fag" and no one took offence to that. Anyone remember the reaction here when Sinead O'Connor tore up a photo of the Pope or Paisley called him the anti Christ, people nearly had strokes they were so offended.
    Aye. This thing of going on about people being easily offended all over the place, and non stop use of the term "sjw" and that snowflake thing... is very much in Vogue.

    Now those perpetually outraged types do exist (e.g the mob going after Three for their own misinterpretation) but nothing like to the extent it's said. I see far more whining about them than actual examples of them. What I do see can be easily avoided too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    KKkitty wrote: »
    With so many things happening worldwide that people can be offended by do you think that sometimes people genuinely fake outrage just so they have something to be offended by? It just seems to me that more people take offense to more things now than they ever did. You can't say such and such a thing because so and so will be upset. I'm personally getting sick of it more and more each day.


    Have to say twitter, social media and yes, even boards doesn't help at times.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    Yes. Even on boards You can recognise the same posters leaping onto whatever social crusade is in discussion. A week later they've totally forgotten and moved onto the current fashionable crusade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    The new thing is finding someone to blame even if it's your own fault :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Deranged96


    A lot of sentiment of this thread... With few examples :)

    Some people are easily offended. This is true of today, yesteryear and will ring true for the future. People say things like "these days everyone's a little heart on sleeve b*tch" etc. When is "these days?" When did they begin? When you turned into a nostalgic cynic? it's just standard looking at the past through rose-tinted glasses

    There is a certain contingent of older people however, who bemoand that society has evolved past blatant racism and sexism, and cry "Liberalism! PC gone mad!" At every chance. And they have a point I suppose, in that things they probably could do/say things 40 years ago they can't today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    K-9 wrote: »
    Have to say twitter, social media and yes, even boards doesn't help at times.

    Couldn't agree more. I know that some things are genuinely worth getting offended by but things going viral as they do now are not helping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Part of the narcisstic,whiney ass generation we find ourselves in.

    We are easily the worst generation. So entitled...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭rtron


    "No offence but your a stupid @sshole."

    Anchorman2


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deranged96 wrote: »

    Some people are easily offended. This is true of today, yesteryear and will ring true for the future. People say things like "these days everyone's a little heart on sleeve b*tch" etc. When is "these days?" When did they begin? When you turned into a nostalgic cynic? it's just standard looking at the past through rose-tinted glasses

    There is a certain contingent of older people however, who bemoand that society has evolved past blatant racism and sexism, and cry "Liberalism! PC gone mad!" At every chance. And they have a point I suppose, in that things they probably could do/say things 40 years ago they can't today.
    Those two paragraphs seem to be at odds with one another. First you say the perceived rise in people taking offence to simply a case of nostalgia, and in the next breath you accept that attitudes have indeed become more censorious over the past few decades.

    I think society has changed, and people really have become more sensitive. That's a good thing, but we needn't become so sensitive as to shout-down debate, which is sometimes a risk.

    It's easier said than done. It's far more tempting to ridicule people with ultra-orthodox religious opinions than to let them spread their nonsense in the belief that most people will ignore it anyway. I think we do run the risk of being intolerant about non-compliance with our version of tolerance.


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