Parking parallel instead of in driveways in estates

veryangryman

A lot of visitors to my local estate have this strange tendency. I know one should not sweat the small stuff but it drives me mental that they do not use the vacant spaces in driveways and waste space on already narrow roadway.

There's a good lot of people on this forum. Surely some of you have this annoying habit. Can you explain yourselves?

AndyBoBandy

What makes my (mothers) estate even worse is the doctors surgery at the entrance to the estate!!! Always jam packed with cars!

In answer to your question though, maybe they want to keep the driveway clear for the kids to play in?

Badly Drunk Boy

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

In answer to your question though, maybe they want to keep the driveway clear for the kids to play in?

I don't think that's it at all. People are just selfish, not using their driveways and blocking up the estates instead. In my parents' estate anyway, people park outside the gardens instead of their driveways whether they have kids are not. It's ridiculous how much they block the roads with cars trying to move by having to slalom by, and stop/starting when a car comes from the other direction.

I was visiting last week, and thought it was strange that the binman was collecting the rubbish in the evening. Apparently that morning there were so many cars that they couldn't fit up the road through the parked cars cluttering up the place while the driveways were clear.

kneemos

Your estate is too narrow.Hope it's not a new one.

Menas

On our estate some people think it is ok to park with their car half in the driveway - half on the footpath (if there is another car already in the driveway).
So if you are walking past you have to step on to the road.
I have 'accidentally' scraped a pram off a few of those cars over the years.

kneemos

Menas wrote: »

On our estate some people think it is ok to park with their car half in the driveway - half on the footpath (if there is another car already in the driveway).
So if you are walking past you have to step on to the road.
I have 'accidentally' scraped a pram off a few of those cars over the years.

I'd quite happily set fire to a car parked on the footpath.

Piggy ignorant.

Del2005

veryangryman wrote: »

A lot of visitors to my local estate have this strange tendency. I know one should not sweat the small stuff but it drives me mental that they do not use the vacant spaces in driveways and waste space on already narrow roadway.

There's a good lot of people on this forum. Surely some of you have this annoying habit. Can you explain yourselves?

If I'm visiting a house which I know has a car I'll always park on the road, it's not my driveway so starting a car to move it from a driveway to the road is bad for the car, and environment, when the home owner returns.

What you should be complaining about is the householders who never use their driveway, but I suppose you would like them as the once in a blue moon visitor will be able to use the driveway 😉

philstar

makes for a quicker departure i suppose

also if your backing out of a driveway theres a chance you might hit some kid playing on the road, so there's pluses & minuses to it

veryangryman

Del2005 wrote: »

If I'm visiting a house which I know has a car I'll always park on the road, it's not my driveway so starting a car to move it from a driveway to the road is bad for the car, and environment, when the home owner returns.
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A valid point. However in most cases the car is parked in front of the entrance to driveway so this would not be possible. So the visitor is even inconveniencing her host.

LollipopJimmy

Menas wrote: »

On our estate some people think it is ok to park with their car half in the driveway - half on the footpath (if there is another car already in the driveway).
So if you are walking past you have to step on to the road.
I have 'accidentally' scraped a pram off a few of those cars over the years.

Somebody parking a car badly doesn't mean you can scrape their car. People who purposely damage another person's property are just scum. If I caught somebody scraping my car I would be onto the Guards straight away which is incidentally where you can report obstructions on a footpath

inforfun

Wasnt such a bad thing if it didnt come with the absolute need these people seem to have of parking in front of their own place and not a meter further away. Neighbour across the street doing the same which leaves gaps between cars that you hardly can get through in a normal sized car.

Any bigger van or truck that needs to deliver something or indeed the binman can forget about getting through these places.

Drumpot

Some asshole neighbour parks both their cars on the road so they can use their front for leisure...

What's the problem I hear some people ask? A few years ago a child was dragged under a car after running in between their two cars and getting hit by a moving car. It creates a blind spot for people driving past them...

We have driveways for a reason. If owners choose to make roads more dangerous for children because they want more space for themselves they are purely selfish , irresponsible and ignorant (that's as nice as I can put it).

punisher5112

98% of the time it is down to the person in the house believing the road space outside their house is there one and don't want anyone else to park there.

So answer is they park there to stop others...

RayM

kneemos wrote: »

I'd quite happily set fire to a car parked on the footpath.

I tried to squeeze past a car on a pavement once, and accidentally* smashed its side mirror.

*My elbow sort of 'slipped' a couple of times.

kneemos

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Somebody parking a car badly doesn't mean you can scrape their car. People who purposely damage another person's property are just scum. If I caught somebody scraping my car I would be onto the Guards straight away which is incidentally where you can report obstructions on a footpath

Cars on footpaths quite often make me stumble and squash wing mirrors.
Must be more careful.

5uspect

It just shows a complete inability for proper planning in Ireland. Let's build high density housing estates where we'll assume every house will have a family with one car, where instead many people houseshare with two or three cars.

Add general ignorance to this and you get the twat down the road from me who parks his precious Golf on the footpath. Not half on half off, it's perched exactly on it.

Dionysius2

Down my way, I tend a green patch outside my gate and along the public road. I cut the grass and trim the edges and plant a few flowers.
What gets my goat entirely relates to the boneheads who drive up with gay abandon and have no compunction about driving up onto the tended grass and flowers as if it was a parking space reserved there for them. Is it pure ignorance (I think so) or do they have some sense of entitlement driven by a particular view of life ? My neighbours on either side rely on an assortment of cement blocks, boulders and stakes to keep the vandals at bay and I fear I will be forced to follow suit.

Mint Sauce

Every estate I have lived in, people have used their drives to park their cars.

philstar wrote: »

makes for a quicker departure i suppose

also if your backing out of a driveway theres a chance you might hit some kid playing on the road, so there's pluses & minuses to it

One reason why you back into your drive, that and so so can also see traffic safely when driving out.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

veryangryman wrote: »

A lot of visitors to my local estate have this strange tendency. I know one should not sweat the small stuff but it drives me mental that they do not use the vacant spaces in driveways and waste space on already narrow roadway.

There's a good lot of people on this forum. Surely some of you have this annoying habit. Can you explain yourselves?

If a visitor to an estate I would never dream of parking in somebody's driveway any more than I would park blocking a gate. Driveway is private property, roadway public.

flazio

philstar wrote: »

makes for a quicker departure i suppose

also if your backing out of a driveway theres a chance you might hit some kid playing on the road, so there's pluses & minuses to it

So back IN to the driveway and then drive out.
Perhaps someone could get onto the council and get double yellow lines painted.

Conor Bourke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8k1d8uX9Gw

philstar

flazio wrote: »

So back IN to the driveway and then drive out.
Perhaps someone could get onto the council and get double yellow lines painted.

i meant as a visitor to an estate

Bailey Young Lawyer wrote: »

If a visitor to an estate I would never dream of parking in somebody's driveway any more than I would park blocking a gate. Driveway is private property, roadway public.

well unless you knew the person you were visiting, in that case its ok to park in their driveway

bisounours

Mint Sauce wrote: »

One reason why you back into your drive, that and so so can also see traffic safely when driving out.

..unless you've a few cars behind you honking away because you've held them up a few seconds more. I back into the driveway if there's no one around but some people don't seem to be happy to wait for me to do that ...

Alexis Sanchez

5uspect wrote: »

It just shows a complete inability for proper planning in Ireland. Let's build high density housing estates where we'll assume every house will have a family with one car, where instead many people houseshare with two or three cars.

Add general ignorance to this and you get the twat down the road from me who parks his precious Golf on the footpath. Not half on half off, it's perched exactly on it.

One thing that annoys the fúck out of me is how narrow our roads are. In Dublin City, I understand there's nothing that can be done because the buildings were built long before the car, but any road built after the car was invented, has no excuse for being narrow.

Over in America and down in Australia, the roads are enormous and they find driving crazy over here. There should be regulations to how wide our roads should be, but with corrupt Fianna Fail governments/councils and the Irish being used to narrow roads, I feel it's going to be something we'll regret forever.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

philstar wrote: »

i meant as a visitor to an estate



well unless you knew the person you were visiting, in that case its ok to park in their driveway

I don't know if someone in the house will want to get their car out or if a resident may be coming home and want to park in the driveway. If invited to park in the driveway, I will. Otherwise I'd rarely do so.

Mint Sauce

bisounours wrote: »

..unless you've a few cars behind you honking away because you've held them up a few seconds more. I back into the driveway if there's no one around but some people don't seem to be happy to wait for me to do that ...

Whats the difference in stopping to reverse into your driveway, to stopping to reverse parrallel park?

It only takes a few seconds to do, and if you are reversing out of a drive, you cant see traffic, if someone does stop to let you out, you are again holding up traffic, and if its not a cul de sac, against The ROTR as you are reversing into a main/major road.

Streetwalker

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Somebody parking a car badly doesn't mean you can scrape their car. People who purposely damage another person's property are just scum. If I caught somebody scraping my car I would be onto the Guards straight away which is incidentally where you can report obstructions on a footpath

I've no problem doing it tbh. People who block the footpath from wheelchair users, prams etc...are assholes. Don't do it and you won't have your car keyed.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

flazio wrote: »

So back IN to the driveway and then drive out.
Perhaps someone could get onto the council and get double yellow lines painted.

No need for double yellows as the law prohibits parking

( d ) on a section of roadway with less than 3 traffic lanes and where traffic sign number RRM 001 [continuous white line] has been provided;

So a continuous white line in an estate and I don't park on the road. Simple.

Valetta

bisounours wrote: »

..unless you've a few cars behind you honking away because you've held them up a few seconds more. I back into the driveway if there's no one around but some people don't seem to be happy to wait for me to do that ...

Why not just pull in just before your driveway and wait until there is a break in the traffic. Then back in.

eviltwin

Try living next door to my neighbours OP, despite having a driveway large enough for 2 cars they still park right across my driveway blocking me in on a regular basis. :mad:

RayM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Whats the difference in stopping to reverse into your driveway, to stopping to reverse parrallel park?

Nothing more annoying than watching someone attempt to parallel-park in a tight space, nose-first, just because they haven't bothered learning how to reverse properly.

A lot of people don't seem to have the confidence to reverse into a driveway - which is weird, because they have no such 'mental block' when it comes to reversing out. When I was learning to drive, I used to spend hours practising parking, manoeuvring, reversing, etc, in an empty car park.

Turtyturd

My parents live in an estate close to Beaumont Hospital which is over run by cheap f*ckers parking their cars in any free space (on corners, across driveways, etc) because they won't pay for parking in the hospital. There's also a school on the road and parents picking up their kids feel that it's ok to do the same. Have to admit that there has been a few times where wayward shots during games of football in the garden may have damaged a car outside.

bisounours

Valetta wrote: »

Why not just pull in just before your driveway and wait until there is a break in the traffic. Then back in.

Mainly because I am LAZY. Once I'm home, I'm home. I'm also one of those that will only go to the gym if it is on the way from work to home. 10 metres beyond the entrance of my house and that will be a subscription wasted....

The_Mask

Every one has their own reasons for doing it. I personally only park across my garden if I am on call for my job...it means I can be ensured I ll actually be able to get to work. I don't have time to be knocking into houses asking who owns the car parked legally on a public road but obstructing my exit. Parallel parking in front of your garden also adds security to prevent car thiefs...if you have 2 or 3 cars you can block the more expensive vehicles into the garden using the cheapest car

Spudmonkey

Streetwalker wrote: »

I've no problem doing it tbh. People who block the footpath from wheelchair users, prams etc...are assholes. Don't do it and you won't have your car keyed.

That's a scummy attitude to have tbh.

RayM

Spudmonkey wrote: »

That's a scummy attitude to have tbh.

If a car is parked on a footpath, and you want to squeeze past (without having to walk on the road), sometimes these unfortunate little accidents can happen.

Wabbit Ears

I never park on someone's driveway unless specifically invited to do so, or at my mams. I would park across an entranceway of friends/family if there are cars in the driveway as, if anyone wishes to leave, Ill just move the car.

Spudmonkey

RayM wrote: »

If a car is parked on a footpath, and you want to squeeze past (without having to walk on the road), sometimes these unfortunate little accidents can happen.

It's an inconvenience and inconsiderate of the person who's done it, but its no reason to wilfully vandalize someone's property. There are plenty ways to deal with such a scenario none of which resort to scumbag behaviour.

It says far more about the person willing to cause hundreds worth of damage (which is what it could be to have the panel resprayed) than the "asshole" who's caused a minor inconvenience forcing someone to walk around their car.

Mint Sauce

RayM wrote: »

Nothing more annoying than watching someone attempt to parallel-park in a tight space, nose-first, just because they haven't bothered learning how to reverse properly.

A lot of people don't seem to have the confidence to reverse into a driveway - which is weird, because they have no such 'mental block' when it comes to reversing out. When I was learning to drive, I used to spend hours practising parking, manoeuvring, reversing, etc, in an empty car park.

Always reverse park, unless its of them spaces set at 45 degrees, which is rare, because you still have to reverse out into passing traffic. Tried parallel nose first once or twice, because I thought it would be quicker, even in a larger space, found it trickier than reversing in.

Always reverse now, worst thing is when someone does not consider you may be trying to parallel park, even though you have put on your indicator on passing a space, put on your reverse lights, and still stop up your arse.

OldMrBrennan83

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kneemos

Spudmonkey wrote: »

It's an inconvenience and inconsiderate of the person who's done it, but its no reason to wilfully vandalize someone's property. There are plenty ways to deal with such a scenario none of which resort to scumbag behaviour.

It says far more about the person willing to cause hundreds worth of damage (which is what it could be to have the panel resprayed) than the "asshole" who's caused a minor inconvenience forcing someone to walk around their car.

Thems the rules.

old_aussie

I'd blame the estate planners.

OldMrBrennan83

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I can't understand it, I hate that there is only space for one car on the drive where I live so I don't always get it. I hate parking on the road even though it's a quiet estate as the car will be at more risk of damage.

People keying cars however are the scum of the earth, my car was Keyed a while back and it's got going to cost me to fix it. If I caught the person the act i'd have keyed their face..

It should also be pointed out to the vandals who key cars that in many estates it's unavoidable for people to park with two wheels on the footpath or there just wouldn't be space for people to park. People just walk on the road rather than the footpath as everyone parks on the paths and everyone understand it's necessary. In fact people Who don't park on the path get complained about in one estate I'm often in as it means two cars can't park opposite each other (and leave space for a car to pass) and therefore limits parking.

RayM

Spudmonkey wrote: »

It's an inconvenience and inconsiderate of the person who's done it, but its no reason to wilfully vandalize someone's property. There are plenty ways to deal with such a scenario none of which resort to scumbag behaviour.

It says far more about the person willing to cause hundreds worth of damage (which is what it could be to have the panel resprayed) than the "asshole" who's caused a minor inconvenience forcing someone to walk around their car.

It's sometimes just not possible to squeeze past without making contact with the vehicle. Thankfully the whole situation can be easily avoided by not parking on the path.

Eugene Norman

Patww79 wrote: »

Hopefully someone reports you. Knock on a door if you've a problem. Would you like someone to reverse out into your pram?

It was an accident.

By the way it's not trivial or a minor inconvenience to push a mother with her pram onto the road. It could cause injury.

Spudmonkey

kneemos wrote: »

Thems the rules.

From the scumbag handbook? Quality justification there chief.

OldMrBrennan83

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Smartguy

You must be pretty fat and lazy to not squeeze by a car

Eugene Norman

Malani Attractive Molecule wrote: »

I can't understand it, I hate that there is only space for one car on the drive where I live so I don't always get it. I hate parking on the road even though it's a quiet estate as the car will be at more risk of damage.

People keying cars however are the scum of the earth, my car was Keyed a while back and it's got going to cost me to fix it. If I caught the person the act i'd have keyed their face..

It should also be pointed out to the vandals who key cars that in many estates it's unavoidable for people to park with two wheels on the footpath or there just wouldn't be space for people to park. People just walk on the road rather than the footpath as everyone parks on the paths and everyone understand it's necessary. In fact people Who don't park on the path get complained about in one estate I'm often in as it means two cars can't park opposite each other (and leave space for a car to pass) and therefore limits parking.

Yes in those cases nobody is to blame except the planners.

Smartguy

Smartguy wrote: »

You must be pretty fat and lazy to not squeeze by a car

Imagine having to have to walk around a car? Hard to believe man circumnavigated the globe yet some can't walk a yard out of their way to go around a car.