Three Ireland removes ad after mob misinterpret it

Clandestine

http://www.thejournal.ie/teni-three-transphobic-ad-2218081-Jul2015/
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Had a look at their facebook page, now they are apologising and plan to remove it. The perpetually offended have their way again.
Some lovely comments on there: https://www.facebook.com/3Ireland?fref=ts

Banjo String

Them advertisers been watching the crying game too many times.

so they're posting something saying they're ruining a film ending

and people are offended cos ...?

RayCon

I'm offended by people who are easily offended

Mesrine65

Bad thread title, I thought it was about the Mafia & a whole vendetta thing :cool:

The Sun King

The transgender community and some cis people.

Cis people.. Christ above.

The Backwards Man

As slogans go, it's a bit rubbish in fairness. I could think of a dozen better phrases than that to convey the impression it was about a movie. Not offensive in any way though imo.

SEPT 23 1989

I am very outraged

Smiles35

Carefull now with that film.

RichardCeann

This is 100% unacceptable. I will be switching to another company as a result, and you should be ashamed

lol

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

I'm not threes biggest fan but I fail to see how this is offensive... This group must be an embarrassment for trans people.

Clandestine

Mesrine65 wrote: »

I thought it was about the Mafia & a whole vendetta thing

Well, this mob is just as scary! :eek:

The Sun King

The people outraged by this are guarenteed to be tumblr users.

A while back I was told not to call Korea/Japan/China 'Asia' because it upsets Iranians and Iraqi people that they are often forgotten about when the term is used.

Apparently "middle east" is not a suitable term. -.-"

Anyone who manages to find that offensive is an unbelievable idiot and judging by that link there are a lot of them out there.

RayM

Slightly off-topic, but I love the way they put a little asterisk after All you can eat data*

*Not really though

Custardpi

Love this quote:

besides being gross, offensive and reinforcing dangerous beliefs, what does this even MEAN

So you don't understand the reference (which is fair enough, not everyone has seen The Crying Game) but you've still decided that it's offensive?

Uriel.

Custardpi wrote: »

Love this quote:

So you don't understand the reference (which is fair enough, not everyone has seen The Crying Game) but you've still decided that it's offensive?

That's because everyday brings an increase in the population of clowns in this country and others. Sigh..

RichardCeann

The Sun King wrote: »

The people outraged by this are guarenteed to be tumblr users.

A while back I was told not to call Korea/Japan/China 'Asia' because it upsets Iranians and Iraqi people that they are often forgotten about when the term is used.

Apparently "middle east" is not a suitable term. -.-"

What do you call them then? People from countries formerly known as being part of the Asian continent?

I think the people of Iraq have enough to be concerning themselves with. Was this person a white, middle class American girl?

The Sun King

Custardpi wrote: »

Love this quote:

So you don't understand the reference (which is fair enough, not everyone has seen The Crying Game) but you've still decided that it's offensive?

If you're cis you don't get to decide what's transphobic.. according to one comment I read.

Little CuChulainn

The Sun King wrote: »

The transgender community and some cis people.

Cis people.. Christ above.

You think that's bad? You should check out some of the crazy **** on Tumblr. People have identified about 12 different genders they can be. There's even a gender for someone who has trouble deciding what gender they want to be.

The Sun King

RichardCeann wrote: »

What do you call them then? People from countries formerly known as being part of the Asian continent?

I think the people of Iraq have enough to be concerning themselves with. Was this person a white, middle class American girl?

Irish, vegan, student. You call them by their name. Korea, etc.

So if you want visit Asia someday you better not use Asia is the common meaning.

Won't someone please think of the Syrians.

Mesrine65

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

There's even a gender for someone who has trouble deciding what gender they want to be.

Officially known as a Numpty

NachoBusiness

Meanwhile, in a far off land, the Man Up campaign offends lots of men.. and nobody gives a shit.

I really do find it odd how in society we only seem to care about certain sacrosanct sections of society being offended. I mean, I have no problem with them removing the ad, but if their sensibilities getting hurt are gonna be acted upon and regretted, then why not everyone's, even if they are not in a minority.

The Sun King

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You think that's bad? You should check out some of the crazy **** on Tumblr. People have identified about 12 different genders they can be. There's even a gender for someone who has trouble deciding what gender they want to be.

I speak to two tumblr users everyday and it'd melt your face.

I'm pro anything once it's reasonable but even I get **** from these people

Custardpi

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

You think that's bad? You should check out some of the crazy **** on Tumblr. People have identified about 12 different genders they can be. There's even a gender for someone who has trouble deciding what gender they want to be.

That's some of the milder stuff actually. Have a look for "Otherkin" & "Headmates" there. :eek::eek::eek:

Clandestine

Hey guys I'm bored af, want me to post anything on their facebook for a laugh?

Links234

Can folks here take a moment and try to appreciate how that ad comes across to trans people? And honestly, it's quite easy to see why someone could be interpreted that way, there's nothing in it to suggest it's referencing a movie or anything and in isolation just looks like it's at the expense of trans people in general.

Custardpi

Links234 wrote: »

Can folks here take a moment and try to appreciate how that ad comes across to trans people?

To all trans people or just some of those who saw the ad? I certainly wouldn't judge all trans people by the low intellectual standards of the perpetually offended internet mob. To do otherwise would be genuinely transphobic.

Uriel.

Links234 wrote: »

Can folks here take a moment and try to appreciate how that ad comes across to trans people?

Maybe you could explain the outrage?

I genuinely don't get it and think it's a significant overreaction, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise

Links234

Links234 wrote: »

Can folks here take a moment and try to appreciate how that ad comes across to trans people?

It's picking a popular movie ending twist and saying it's ruining the movie finale for them

GLaDOS

When I saw it originally I assumed it meant "The girl you were chatting up turned out to be a bloke", can easily see how trans people took offense.

Not sure how it's suppose to be obvious that it's a TV/movie reference.

The Backwards Man

Links234 wrote: »

Can folks here take a moment and try to appreciate how that ad comes across to trans people?

I would imagine that they see it as poorly written and lacking context, as anyone would. It possibly might work as a TV ad, with two people watching a whodunnit type show on different networks. Maybe.

But on a billboard it's just a poor ad. Not an offensive one. A poor one.

Professey Chin

ScienceNerd wrote: »

When I saw it originally I assumed it meant "The girl you were chatting up turned out to be a bloke", can easily see how trans people took offense.

Not sure how it's suppose to be obvious that it's a TV/movie reference.

It says it on the poster that you wont miss the finale of what youre watching

Links234

bluewolf wrote: »

It's picking a popular movie ending twist and saying it's ruining the movie finale for them

But the ad left out anything to show its referencing a movie. Or the "enjoy the finale" bit ,is that it?

GLaDOS

Professey Chin wrote: »

It says it on the poster that you wont miss the finale of what youre watching

Ah yeah can see it now, was half blocked in the picture in the journal article.

Stheno

bluewolf wrote: »

It's picking a popular movie ending twist and saying it's ruining the movie finale for them

ScienceNerd wrote: »

When I saw it originally I assumed it meant "The girl you were chatting up turned out to be a bloke", can easily see how trans people took offense.

Not sure how it's suppose to be obvious that it's a TV/movie reference.

I'd no idea what it was about as I've never seen the movie.

And isn't that movie at least twenty years old?

I thought it was to do with downloading songs

Links234

Links234 wrote: »

But the ad left out anything to show its referencing a movie.

The article says

The billboard says: “Sorry Vodafone customers It turned out he was a she after you’d used all your data”.
The text box underneath tells customers that they will not run out of data before the finale of a film they’re watching”.


Does it not say that? I havent seen the ad

Cold War Kid

Links, to me it's only referencing The Crying Game surprise ending - no different to referencing the surprise ending of The Empire Strikes Back or The Sixth Sense; subject matter irrelevant. Is it that there's a double meaning to this particular ad that implies trans people are deceptive? If so, it's not obvious at all IMO.

Wibbs

TBH as the days and weeks go by I am really getting a pain in my behind with the near constant array of a minority of special snowflakes taking "offence" at every bloody thing and crying "phobic" at every bloody turn.

GLaDOS

bluewolf wrote: »

The article says

The billboard says: “Sorry Vodafone customers It turned out he was a she after you’d used all your data”.
The text box underneath tells customers that they will not run out of data before the finale of a film they’re watching”.


Does it not say that? I havent seen the ad

Seems to say "the finale", not specifically TV/Movie. It's also in much smaller writing.

lazybones32

Links234 wrote: »

Can folks here take a moment and try to appreciate how that ad comes across to trans people?

The Ad wasn't about trans people...stop trying to make it an issue.
You live in a world where misunderstandings and misinterpretations occur. Either wrap yourself up in cotton wool or become the type of person who doesn't get offended by every slight - real or imagined.

GLaDOS

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Links, to me it's only referencing The Crying Game surprise ending - no different to referencing the surprise ending of The Empire Strikes Back or The Sixth Sense; subject matter irrelevant. Is it that there's a double meaning to this particular ad that implies trans people are deceptive? If so, it's not obvious at all IMO.

As someone who hasn't seen the movie, I didn't get that reference at all. Easy to see how people who haven't wouldn't get it.

NachoBusiness

Links234 wrote: »

Can folks here take a moment and try to appreciate how that ad comes across to trans people?

I have done and I don't see how it could possibly be considered transpohbic.

To me the ad looks as if it is not aimed at any gender for a start, as it's addressed to "customers," and then just seems as it if it is poking fun at someone that felt they were chatting to a man, but where in fact talking to a woman.

If anything, the fact that they were sexually ambiguous with the ad, would suggest they were not being transphobic or any kind of phobic for that matter. Seems an open minded ad to me and one which was deliberately designed to be so.

Should never have been withdrawn.

For Forks Sake

bluewolf wrote: »

The article says

The billboard says: “Sorry Vodafone customers It turned out he was a she after you’d used all your data”.
The text box underneath tells customers that they will not run out of data before the finale of a film they’re watching”.


Does it not say that? I havent seen the ad

Yes it does. Apparently most people read the banner and not the whole ad and auto-engaged the outrage mode.

Here's the billboard. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ9LsJjWoAAGI7V.jpg

RedemptionZ

I thought it was about a baby being born

Christ I was way off. How is this offensive though? Surely just a bad ad that needs context. It doesn't imply that he being a she is bad, more that it's a shock. Honestly there's a lot of transphobia out there, but in this case people need to get over themselves.

And I ****ing hate tumblr. Are there any non 'middle class girl but I'm still oppressed and get offended for every minority ever concocted' on it?

Custardpi

ScienceNerd wrote: »

As someone who hasn't seen the movie, I didn't get that reference at all. Easy to see how people who haven't wouldn't get it.

Heaven forbid they might ask someone or look for information online instead of jumping straight into outrage mode of course.

fleet_admiral

I was a Vodafone customer 11 years ago. Still, im deeply offended by the 'sorry Vodafone' bit. Who do I sue?

Links234

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Links, to me it's only referencing The Crying Game surprise ending - no different to referencing the surprise ending of The Empire Strikes Back or The Sixth Sense; subject matter irrelevant. Is it that there's a double meaning to this particular ad that implies trans people are deceptive? If so, it's not obvious at all IMO.

I didn't even twig it as a reference to the crying game at all at first because of the wording "turns out he's a she" when in the crying game the reveal is that dil has a penis so it's kinda got the twist backward

The Sun King

It could just as easily be misunderstood as being about a Catfish, right?

Cold War Kid

Clandestine wrote: »

Well, this mob is just as scary! :eek:

It's not, but they are being absolute arseholes IMO the way they're behaving.

Social media really does bring out the dick in some towards service providers. The Three "Facebook guys" aren't responsible for the ad, the people being so obnoxious to them know they can't defend themselves, they also know that no offence was intended yet they're still "outraged" so they're clearly enjoying the drama and the revelling in offence that wasn't intended.

In general I'm a liberal but those clowns don't speak for me with their little obnoxious cyber-bullying wars. Tolerant my hole.

RedemptionZ

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Yes it does. Apparently most people read the banner and not the whole ad and auto-engaged the outrage mode.

Here's the billboard. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ9LsJjWoAAGI7V.jpg

Ah it says finale. Still a poor ad, but not offensive at all, not that I thought it was before but surely that's clarity. Another case of trial by Internet.