Free paced mile Phoenix Park July 18th

chickey2

Just saw this on Facebook and thought I'd share http://irishrunner.com/run-a-paced-mile-free/
I've been wanting to do a proper mile for ages so I'll definitely go along.

laura_ac3

Might head along to this myself. Aquinn flagged it to me earlier, something I've also wanted to do for a while.

Chivito550

Great idea. I like the way they link the relevance of running a fast mile to long distance running as a way to bring recreational runners in to shorter distances. Would be nicer if it was on a track though as track running would benefit more from it, with some people getting the bug for it. By having it in the park this won't happen, but obviously easier from a logistical point of view.

The +33 seconds for 5k pace is very random and is bad advice. No way somebody who runs a 10 min mile can run 10:33 pace for 3.1 miles. Goodybags and certificates a bit unnecessary too, but I guess that's what motivates some.

Hannibal Smith

Will there be beers???

chickey2

Hannibal Smith wrote: »

Will there be beers???

We could bring our own and drink them in the bushes!

adrian522

The Beer mile was last month.

vanderlyle

It's a great idea. Gives a wide range of abilities a shot at the classic distance. I'm in, I've never ran a paced mile before.

Any info about the route? I'm guessing the flat stretch of Chesterfield avenue between the phoenix monument and the roundabout, where the great Ireland mile is held.

I would love to see a 5:00 pace added if it runs again. Maybe not as much uptake as some of the other times, but would be great to try even if you were to blow up halfway.

Greenmachine

Not sure where to shoot for, if I go for this. Personal fastest, mile 6:42 was as part of a longer 8km run. Fastest 5km is 21:58 again as part of a faster run. Not sure there is too much to shave off here. Might be worth it just to have a certified mile.

Chivito550

Greenmachine wrote: »

Not sure where to shoot for, if I go for this. Personal fastest, mile 6:42 was as part of a longer 8km run. Fastest 5km is 21:58 again as part of a faster run. Not sure there is too much to shave off here. Might be worth it just to have a certified mile.

I'd try go for the 6 minute one. If you feel good at half way, push on. You could try go for the sub 5:30 one, but may be a bit of a stretch given your 5K time, unless you are naturally a short distance runner.

Greenmachine

Chivito550 wrote: »

I'd try go for the 6 minute one. If you feel good at half way, push on. You could try go for the sub 5:30 one, but may be a bit of a stretch given your 5K time, unless you are naturally a short distance runner.

Won't go for the 5:30 anyway. Will suggest that one to a friend who ran 18:XX in the 5k colour dash.

Murph_D

Love the idea of this but doing the Race Series Fingal 10k 24 hours later. How much would running the mile impact on the 10k, do you think?

Lex Luther

anyone know how it works ..will it be one run with everyone included , starting in time zones...or a different run for each time category...or a number of mixed runs one after another ...?

spaceylou

Ooh I am tempted...have never run a mile (as a target distance) - no clue what time to aim for though. Based on a recent half marathon McMillian suggests that I should aim for 8:08 where as Jack Daniels vDot suggests 10 min.

If I decide to do it, do I split the difference and try a shot with the 9 min mile folk?

vanderlyle

Murph_D wrote: »

Love the idea of this but doing the Race Series Fingal 10k 24 hours later. How much would running the mile impact on the 10k, do you think?

Seems that there is a series of these paced mile events planned for the next few Saturday mornings, July 18th, 25th, Aug 1st, 8th.

http://phoenixpark.ie/media/Events 2015.pdf

So if you're worried, maybe focus on the race series for this weekend and do the mile the next time?

hillsiderunner

vanderlyle wrote: »

Seems that there is a series of these paced mile events planned for the next few Saturday mornings, July 18th, 25th, Aug 1st, 8th.

http://phoenixpark.ie/media/Events 2015.pdf

oh!

Firedance

hillsiderunner wrote: »

oh!

+1....oh really

yaboya1

Why no 5 minute option?

Greenmachine

yaboya1 wrote: »

Why no 5 minute option?

Maybe they couldn't get a pacer.

Bungy Girl

spaceylou wrote: »

Ooh I am tempted...have never run a mile (as a target distance) - no clue what time to aim for though. Based on a recent half marathon McMillian suggests that I should aim for 8:08 where as Jack Daniels vDot suggests 10 min.

If I decide to do it, do I split the difference and try a shot with the 9 min mile folk?

I'd double check the Vdot figure as it doesn't seem right (make sure you click on the 'equivalent' tab to get the right mile estimate). It defaults to 'race pace' which would not be the figure you need. I'm guessing 8 min mile is the one to shoot for

Chivito550

yaboya1 wrote: »

Why no 5 minute option?

Hard to find a pacer at that level, as has been said. Also this is for recreational runners. There's plenty of mile races around for club runners.

aquinn

Chivito550 wrote: »

Hard to find a pacer at that level, as has been said. Also this is for recreational runners. There's plenty of mile races around for club runners.

I can do it on a bike if that helps?

Firedance

aquinn wrote: »

I can do it if that helps?

FYP :pac:

aquinn

Firedance wrote: »

FYP :pac:

There is no hiding around here. Morning.

spaceylou

Bungy Girl wrote: »

I'd double check the Vdot figure as it doesn't seem right (make sure you click on the 'equivalent' tab to get the right mile estimate). It defaults to 'race pace' which would not be the figure you need. I'm guessing 8 min mile is the one to shoot for

Yes, I didn't click the equivalent tab...doh!

Vdot, still has slower prediction than McM at 8:29 so that could be the fall back plan....I wonder what the deadline for signing up is? :cool:

vanderlyle

Small enough numbers doing this today, I reckon only 50-60 people. Disappointing given its novelty value for non-club members such as me, and that it was free. But I suppose understandable given that it was the first of its kind, and it was the day before the race series 10k. Hopefully word will spread, and the next event will draw bigger numbers. The organisers said to keep an eye on the Irish runner website for details of future events. Anybody else here do it?

Big spread of paces, the fastest guys came in about 5:10 or just under. Thank you to the pacers.

Greenmachine

Didn't make it myself after all. I was up all night with a cough. Will get out another week to give it a go.

Dubgal72

vanderlyle wrote: »

Small enough numbers doing this today, I reckon only 50-60 people. Disappointing given its novelty value for non-club members such as me, and that it was free. But I suppose understandable given that it was the first of its kind, and it was the day before the race series 10k. Hopefully word will spread, and the next event will draw bigger numbers. The organisers said to keep an eye on the Irish runner website for details of future events. Anybody else here do it?

Big spread of paces, the fastest guys came in about 5:10 or just under. Thank you to the pacers.

Don't suppose there is a results page anywhere? It is a great idea, would love to see it catch on.

Tom__jnr2

Likewise. Great idea and waiting for 5min pace added on.

Hopefully it will develope into race series.

vanderlyle

Dubgal72 wrote: »

Don't suppose there is a results page anywhere?

Don't think so. Although Precision timing provided the clock, start/finish gantry, and race numbers (as well as a pacer or two).

Chivito550

Tom__jnr2 wrote: »

Likewise. Great idea and waiting for 5min pace added on.

Hopefully it will develope into race series.

If you are after sub 5 then why not just enter a mile race on the track?

Tom__jnr2

To enter graded meeting you must be a member of a club...do not see much point in paying +100e for that pleasure as I train on my own when I have spare time.

P.s. 5min is not even fast.

Murph_D

Not all track meets are graded meets. Check out bhaa.ie for example. Open to anyone.

Tom__jnr2

Murph_D wrote: »

Not all track meets are graded meets. Check out bhaa.ie for example. Open to anyone.

Lads, this topic is not about graded meets and let's get back to the subject of paced mile.

Will repeat again, this is great idea and would love to see it as a race series. Fair play to all involved.

Chivito550

Tom__jnr2 wrote: »

To enter graded meeting you must be a member of a club...do not see much point in paying +100e for that pleasure as I train on my own when I have spare time.

P.s. 5min is not even fast.

I never said it was fast.

PVincent

A sub 5 min mile might not be considered fast in Athletic circles, but it is beyond the reach of the vast majority of people who are out at the road races these days, at the park runs etc. and no let's not open up that discussion again, I am just saying that very few of the running population will ever achieve a sub 5 min mile. It's bloody fast as far as most are concerned. Try 1 lap of sub 75 seconds and repeat by 4 ! ...if this guy can run a 5 min mile then by my reckoning he can do 5k in sub17 , which is really good club standard. So why is he not in a club ?

Murph_D

Tom__jnr2 wrote: »

Lads, this topic is not about graded meets and let's get back to the subject of paced mile.

Will repeat again, this is great idea and would love to see it as a race series. Fair play to all involved.

Was it not your good self who brought up the subject of graded meets? All I'm saying is there are track events open to non club members.

I agree this is a good idea. Might do it myself next week.

Timmaay

Murph_D wrote: »

Was it not your good self who brought up the subject of graded meets? All I'm saying is there are track events open to non club members.

I agree this is a good idea. Might do it myself next week.

This is a weekly event? Is it specifically trying to target the joggers/beginners? Would be very handy for us track fairies to have the odd timed mile during the off season every so often! Abit like the park runs. However unless the numbers improve I'd question the economics of it, precision timing don't time for free!

TFBubendorfer

PVincent wrote: »

.if this guy can run a 5 min mile then by my reckoning he can do 5k in sub17 , which is really good club standard. So why is he not in a club ?

No, that's not right. The equivalent of a 5-minute mile is 17:21 according to MacMillan.

To be honest I thought the equivalent 5k time would be even slower

Lex Luther

Hi, I attended as a spectator/cheerleader ..my 11 year old and 9 year old and wife ran it. It was a very nice idea, and probably a pity that through (I'm guessing) a slightly casual and half-hearted approach to promotion, it was not as well attended as it deserved to be. I'm sure everyone who went enjoyed it and got a positive expereinece and the pacers and helpers were excellent, very good natured and helpful and friendly.

(They forgot to turn the clock on when the run started so I wouldnt be looking for a list of results, the first finishers were called through on my watch whiich I put on at the start for my own guys and later finishers were timed off a pacer who left his watch on when he finished).

Btw my kids were the ONLY kids that ran ( 6.47 and 7.23 respectively) which was a bit of a shame I think..others will disagree perhaps.

Timmaay

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

No, that's not right. The equivalent of a 5-minute mile is 17:21 according to MacMillan.

To be honest I thought the equivalent 5k time would be even slower

Very subjective 2bh. Depends on age, level of fitness etc. I know plenty of teenagers who would run likes of 4.40 but struggle to break 17 ha.

28064212

vanderlyle wrote: »

Seems that there is a series of these paced mile events planned for the next few Saturday mornings, July 18th, 25th, Aug 1st, 8th.

http://phoenixpark.ie/media/Events 2015.pdf

Anybody hear anything more about any more of these mile events?

Murph_D

http://irishrunner.com/phoenix-park-paced-miles/

Looks like they did have a 5 min pacer after all. :P

Looks like a well run if slightly under attended event from the pics. Might give it a go in the AM.