Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

Spook_ie

Hope this works
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/STSHO107_2025_2025-0849?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=LgD1195&_phstart=successSource&pId=8673323

Looking at last two names, Ancestry has it as Yonton and Elizabeth, does it look like Yonton to experienced eyes on here?

TIA

JustAThought

Spook_ie wrote: »

Hope this works
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/STSHO107_2025_2025-0849?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=LgD1195&_phstart=successSource&pId=8673323

Looking at last two names, Ancestry has it as Yonton and Elizabeth, does it look like Yonton to experienced eyes on here?

TIA

This seems to link to the front page only.

Spook_ie

JustAThought wrote: »

This seems to link to the front page only.

As in Page 1 of 50?
If so then it is page 36 of 50 I'm looking at

Lizheen

Spook_ie wrote: »

As in Page 1 of 50?
If so then it is page 36 of 50 I'm looking at

Looks like Gordon to me

Hermy

Lizheen wrote: »

Looks like Gordon to me

Looks like Gordon to me too.

Deja Boo

It makes more sense, but compared with the uppercase G in 113 and 130 ?

Deja Boo

On ancestry, a correction was added to the transcribed name, as Euticus. It also shows a Eutychus (also listed as a hinge maker) and Elizabeth in the same area in 1841 after marrying in Stafford, England in 1836.

Is it possible what appeared (to the transcriber) as Yonton, was the census takers attempt at spelling as pronounced - Youtcus... ?
The t is the same as Elizabeths, and the only descender the scribe makes on previous entries is for y's and z's... so am just wondering.

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Hermy

I think you might be onto something there Boo!

Spook_ie

I'm looking at the capitalised Y in Yates (next page same household) which seems different, but yes have to agree that the G doesn't match either

KildareFan

If the enumerator entered the name 'Gordon' - then his capital G looks very like the lower case g in 'hinge'; yet the capital G in George in later entries is totally different.

Spook_ie

Where someone has annoted that Euytichus and Yonton are the one and same, is there a link somewhere to why they think it's the same person?

Deja Boo

A basic notation is usually given (click on the alternate name), like "transcription error" in the edit box. The record generally linked to someone in their tree where you can view similarities of family members, places and dates.

They added this alternate in 2010:

Spook_ie

Deja Boo wrote: »

A basic notation is usually given (click on the alternate name), like "transcription error" in the edit box. The record generally linked to someone in their tree where you can view similarities of family members, places and dates.

They added this alternate in 2010:

I don't get that, I do get an option to add another name though



What browser do you use? this is with Chrome

Deja Boo

chromebook, yes --- try a quick double click on Euticus, it should work

Spook_ie

Deja Boo wrote: »

chromebook, yes --- try a quick double click on Euticus, it should work

I dunno I can't get anything to come up, if I hover over Yonton I get "Also Eutychus Fisher " but nothing to click except as previous

Deja Boo

Spook_ie wrote: »

I dunno I can't get anything to come up, if I hover over Yonton I get "Also Eutychus Fisher " but nothing to click except as previous

Hmmm, we may have a different format then, sorry... This is the record ancestry shows me (where only Euticus has a hoverable link).



As it shows, when I hover over Euticus it says "This value was member-submitted. Click to see the details" and if I click (or double click) on Euticus, it shows the edit notation I posted earlier (but without the name of the submitter, which I didn't post for their privacy sake.) I am happy to email or pm you what is shown on ancestry, if you like.

chooseusername

Looking for a bit of help.

Based on the following;
Father ; Michael.
Mother ; Mary
Married 1859.

Their children in order ,eldest first; Richard (born 1860), Catherine, Bridget (died young),
Mary, Bridget, Michael (could be William), Patrick, and Margaret.
What are the likely first names of the children's grandparents ?

KildareFan

If they followed the usual naming conventions:
Michael's father was Richard, his mother was Bridget
Mary's father was Michael or William, her mother was Catherine

chooseusername

KildareFan wrote: »

If they followed the usual naming conventions:
Michael's father was Richard, his mother was Bridget
Mary's father was Michael or William, her mother was Catherine

So;
Sons; 1st- Father's Father, then Mother's father
Daughters; 1st- Mother's mother, then Father's Mother
Thanks KildareFan

tabbey

chooseusername wrote: »

So;
Sons; 1st- Father's Father, then Mother's father
Daughters; 1st- Mother's mother, then Father's Mother
Thanks KildareFan

Most families followed this convention to some extent, but not so many did so completely.

chooseusername

tabbey wrote: »

Most families followed this convention to some extent, but not so many did so completely.

True,Tabbey,
but it's a good place to start.

tabbey

chooseusername wrote: »

True,Tabbey,
but it's a good place to start.

Provided you bear in mind that it may lead you down the wrong direction.

chooseusername

tabbey wrote: »

Provided you bear in mind that it may lead you down the wrong direction.

Yes, I've been there.
Can you imagine in the future looking back for Tysons and Chantells?

Hermy

chooseusername wrote: »

Looking for a bit of help.

Based on the following;
Father ; Michael.
Mother ; Mary
Married 1859.

Their children in order ,eldest first; Richard (born 1860), Catherine, Bridget (died young),
Mary, Bridget, Michael (could be William), Patrick, and Margaret.
What are the likely first names of the children's grandparents ?

This is not a handwriting query.

Can we please keep things on topic - thanks everyone.

chooseusername

Apologies,
should have put it in off-topic thread.

Spook_ie

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1952/04478/4174899.pdf
Entry 426
I read
23 Sept 1952
23 Belvedere Avenue ( matches address on 1911 census )
F
Widow ( need to find death of husband found a 1927 that matches)
76 ( b. circa 1876)
Home duties ( possibly )
Cause Haven't a clue what that reads!
Reported by Alice? Bergin Daughter same address ( matches 1911 census )

Any deciphering of cause of death, I'm fairly happy with the rest unless anyone is reading it differently

Cheers and thanks

Jellybaby_1

Spook_ie wrote: »

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1952/04478/4174899.pdf
Entry 426
I read
23 Sept 1952
23 Belvedere Avenue ( matches address on 1911 census )
F
Widow ( need to find death of husband found a 1927 that matches)
76 ( b. circa 1876)
Home duties ( possibly )
Cause Haven't a clue what that reads!
Reported by Alice? Bergin Daughter same address ( matches 1911 census )

Any deciphering of cause of death, I'm fairly happy with the rest unless anyone is reading it differently

Cheers and thanks

Very difficult. I read what you read. Definitely Alice Bergin. Cause, Something.....something.....senility...chronic something....bed sores....2 years. Could be very wrong. Sorry can't get anything else from it.

spurious

I think the first cause is Myocardial Degeneration. (6/12 yrs???)
Then Senility, Chronic Cholecystitis and Bed Sores. (2 years)

spurious

spurious wrote: »

I think the first cause is Myocardial Degeneration. (6/12 yrs???)
Then Senility, Chronic Cholecystitis and Bed Sores. (2 years)

Beat me to it! 6/12 refers to six months. I was also considering Thyrocardiac, a term not really used now.

JDERIC2017

Morning, this is an obit from Irish Examiner, i have attached full file and smaller one and link, can anyone make out address of Daughter as have no record of this married daughter. thanks.




https://archive.irishnewsarchive.com/Olive/APA/INA/default.aspx?action=tab&tab=browse&pub=IEX#panel=document