Opinions needed!!!

IrishEF

Hi All,

Just a quick one. I am in the middle of debate with a few friends and wanted a few opinions on the matter.

What is the general outlook on the following:

Is it ok for a 27 year old male to be flirting and driving around with a just gone (as of yesterday 7th July 2015) 18 year old girl? Bearing in mind that the 27 year old male has admitted to flirting with her.

All opinions welcomed!!!

Generic Dreadhead

Yeah it's grand technically, it''s then down to your own personal moral compass after that.

I will await the token White Knighting below though, no doubt the word pervert will be used and he'll be accused of manipulating her

onlinemonkey

Well not if you follow the half your age plus seven rule

The Backwards Man

I think dipped headlights should be mandatory on all vehicles at all times.

Mightydrumming

IrishEF wrote: »

Hi All,

Just a quick one. I am in the middle of debate with a few friends and wanted a few opinions on the matter.

What is the general outlook on the following:

Is it ok for a 27 year old male to be flirting and driving around with a just gone (as of yesterday 7th July 2015) 18 year old girl? Bearing in mind that the 27 year old male has admitted to flirting with her.

All opinions welcomed!!!

Tell her to keep her arse to the wall at all times. In the name a jasus :pac:

mad muffin

Been there, done that. What's the beef?

Pumpkinseeds

Creepy as fcuk.:D She's not jailbait but still, he's 27, maybe he likes school uniforms.:p

Generic Dreadhead

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Creepy as fcuk.:D She's not jailbait but still, he's 27, maybe he likes school uniforms.:p

Schools finished weeks ago :P

Samaris

Meh. It's legal, it's just down to morals after that. I personally think there's a hell of a lot of growing up to do between just barely 18 and 27. I wouldn't approve of it if it was my daughter.

diomed

Grooming before 7th July.
Courting on/after 7th July.

OneOfThem

Perfectly grand. People have little to be worrying about.

I guess if you really wanted to quantify it you could say it may depend on the particular 18 year old in question. You can be 18 and have a solid head on your shoulders, or still be running around with the mental and emotional maturity of a little kid (same can go for some 24 year olds though and no one would have the slightest problem with that). People grow and mature at different rates.

Boom_Bap

When you were her age, she was 9. Chew on that for a minute.

Fat Christy

She's 18, I don't see the problem tbh.

Generic Dreadhead

Boom_Bap wrote: »

When you were her age, she was 9. Chew on that for a minute.

What about a 65 year old being in love with a 47 year old.

At some point he was an adult and she was worming her way through a burst condom.

Funny how this things go and become more normal, like age gap is proportional to overall age. There should be a more complicated formula than the "1/2 + 7" Rule

Fat Christy wrote: »

She's 18, I don't see the problem tbh.

You wouldn't.... you think she's probably being "Friendly"...

Crafty crafty women with your crafty crafty ways

Rhys Essien

Will he celebrate the leaving cert results with her or will that be next year.

al22

It is their own business.

Pumpkinseeds

Cormac... wrote: »

Schools finished weeks ago :P

Yeah, but she might still have the uniform hanging in the wardrobe.:D

Generic Dreadhead

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Will he celebrate the leaving cert results with her or will that be next year.

Well it depends on if she did transition year.... if she skipped transition year... well..... he should be locked up

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Yeah, but she might still have the uniform hanging in the wardrobe.:D

Well so what, it's all a bit of light hearted fun between ADULTS

Horses for courses......

Menas

It is legally grand. But try telling her dad that.

Fat Christy

Cormac... wrote: »

What about a 65 year old being in love with a 47 year old.

At some point he was an adult and she was worming her way through a burst condom.

Funny how this things go and become more normal, like age gap is proportional to overall age. There should be a more complicated formula than the "1/2 + 7" Rule



You wouldn't.... you think she's probably being "Friendly"...

Crafty crafty women with your crafty crafty ways

Sorry Cormac, I didn't realise you were flirting with me. I thought you just wanted to be my friend.

Even if they went out, what's the big deal?

Generic Dreadhead

Menas wrote: »

It is legally grand. But try telling her dad that.

Yup, or an older brudder :eek:

jacool

I see in your opening post you say "just a quick one". Technically that's more than flirting!

valoren

The only problem I'd see is a difference in interests.
When I was 27 an atypical 18 year old's interests would have driven me demented.

Age is only a number. I know some people in their 30's who act like teenagers and I've met some teenagers who are mature beyond their years.

She's 18 now. A consenting adult and can choose who she wants to be with. What's creepy and disappointing is that other people, these bastions of morals and social etiquette would see fit to intervene or prevent a potentially brilliant relationship based on some ridiculous societal rule. (half your age + 7).

Mind your own business. Hoe your own row, GTFO etc

jobbridge4life

What would be wrong with it? A sexually mature man is flirting with a sexually mature 18 woman?

Boom_Bap

Cormac... wrote: »

What about a 65 year old being in love with a 47 year old.

At some point he was an adult and she was worming her way through a burst condom.

Funny how this things go and become more normal, like age gap is proportional to overall age. There should be a more complicated formula than the "1/2 + 7" Rule

I'm not saying it's wrong, or that there is a magic formula to calculate this, I'm not judging. Just providing another perspective that the OP can bring up in discussion.

Generic Dreadhead

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I'm not saying it's wrong, or that there is a magic formula to calculate this, I'm not judging. Just providing another perspective that the OP can bring up in discussion.

Pffffft... if you're not even gonna come back at me with a formula don't even bother :P

One eyed Jack

OneOfThem wrote: »

Perfectly grand. People have little to be worrying about.

I guess if you really wanted to quantify it you could say it may depend on the particular 18 year old in question. You can be 18 and have a solid head on your shoulders, or still be running around with the mental and emotional maturity of a little kid (same can go for some 24 year olds though and no one would have the slightest problem with that). People grow and mature at different rates.

By that same token, you could be 27 and have a solid head on your shoulders, or still running around with the mental and emotional maturity of a little kid, and if you're 27 running around after 18 year olds, or encouraging 18 year olds, well, chances are you're that 27 year old with the mental and emotional maturity of a little kid, who finds 18 year olds with the mental and emotional maturity of a little kid, attractive.

There's nothing illegal about it, but it's hardly a sign of maturity in either of them IMO.

Boom_Bap

Cormac... wrote: »

Pffffft... if you're not even gonna come back at me with a formula don't even bother :P

e=mc something.
I nearly have this one ready. It's relative.

Kimbot

Cormac... wrote: »

There should be a more complicated formula than the "1/2 + 7" Rule

What about the if theres grass on the pitch rule?

Son Of A Vidic

Boom_Bap wrote: »

When you were her age, she was 9. Chew on that for a minute.

It might be even wiser for the OP, to avoid chewing on anything.

Samaris

Boom_Bap wrote: »

e=mc something.
I nearly have this one ready. It's relative.

Oh dear, relatives are another whole can of worms!

OneOfThem

One eyed Jack wrote: »

By that same token, you could be 27 and have a solid head on your shoulders, or still running around with the mental and emotional maturity of a little kid, and if you're 27 running around after 18 year olds, or encouraging 18 year olds, well, chances are you're that 27 year old with the mental and emotional maturity of a little kid, who finds 18 year olds with the mental and emotional maturity of a little kid, attractive.

There's nothing illegal about it, but it's hardly a sign of maturity in either of them IMO.

I'd consider your blanket opinion that anyone that would pursue something at these ages to have to be immature to be a highly immature attitude due to it's pointed lack of nuance. So we've all got our opinions.

(I know you're a fan of the endless back and forth where both people keep saying the same thing to each other just worded differently over and over and over again. So just to head that off at the pass. I think I'll pass man, no offence. )

Generic Dreadhead

jonny24ie wrote: »

What about the if theres grass on the pitch rule?

Probably get you locked up pretty quick

OneOfThem wrote: »

I know your a fan of the endless back and forth where both people keep saying the same thing to each other just worded differently over and over and over again

A wild re-reg appears

freshpopcorn

When my mother was 18 she started seeing my father who was 30. There happily married for over 34 years.
So, I don't see the problem.

Buzz Meeks

jobbridge4life wrote: »

A sexually mature man is flirting with a sexually mature 18 woman?

Oh God. I'm getting turned on reading this thread.

Guy:Incognito

onlinemonkey wrote: »

Well not if you follow the half your age plus seven rule

But yes if you follow the sexy sexy 18 year old rule.

Generic Dreadhead

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

But yes if you follow the sexy sexy 18 year old rule.

Apt avatar is apt

bucketybuck

They are allowed to do what they want, and I am allowed to assume that a 27 year old chasing 18 year olds is a bit of a loser, probably a bit creepy, and certainly somebody likely to be immature and worthy of a measure of contempt.

Guy:Incognito

Menas wrote: »

It is legally grand. But try telling her dad that.

Try telling your missus dad what you do to his daughter now and see what he reckons.

Age isnt going to change that.

Generic Dreadhead

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Try telling your missus dad what you do to his daughter now and see what he reckons

I've never once told my fiances dad what I've done to her, and we're both in our 20s

Guy:Incognito

jonny24ie wrote: »

What about the if theres grass on the pitch rule?

With the way the "fashion" is gone now, you might find yourself a virgin for life if you wait for a pitch with grass. Theyre all playing on snooker tables now.:)

Mesrine65

Are you from Rotherham OP? :eek:

IrishEF

I think it is morally wrong and kinda gives me the creeps when its thats age gap from 18 - 27.

Up to 18, a girl wouldnt have much life experience compared to a 27 year old fella.

Anyone agree???

VisibleGorilla

IrishEF wrote: »

I think it is morally wrong and kinda gives me the creeps when its thats age gap from 18 - 27.

Up to 18, a girl wouldnt have much life experience compared to a 27 year old fella.

Anyone agree???

I would disagree. Are you male or female?

Nothing wrong with this at all. Most men would jump at the chance, and most older women would talk like you have "creepy" etc.. Jealousy plain and simple.

I doubt there would be a long term relationship but for a fling zero problems at all.

Mightydrumming

jonny24ie wrote: »

What about the if theres grass on the pitch rule?

If there's grass on the pitch, play ball? haha I remember it now :pac:

Samaris

VisibleGorilla wrote: »

I would disagree. Are you male or female?

Nothing wrong with this at all. Most men would jump at the chance, and most older women would talk like you have "creepy" etc.. Jealousy plain and simple.

I would guess that EF is female, but that aside, your comment is a bit daft.

Most men would be attracted to a girl still in their teens as an adult? I doubt it. Some men will be, some won't be, some wouldn't think they'd be but then run into someone that is absolutely perfect for them and just happens to have been born rather later than them.

Most men aren't actually ruled by whatever their penis tells them at any given moment, for all the jokes.

Lux23

Legally it is ok, but morally it is pretty gross.

Jjiipp79

Would anyone have a problem if the lad was 18 and the woman 27?

Rhys Essien

Elvis met Priscilla when she was just 14 and he was 24.:eek:

How creepy is that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Presley#Life_with_Elvis

Fat Christy

Jjiipp79 wrote: »

Would anyone have a problem if the lad was 18 and the woman 27?

No, that's different!! That's a guy and a girl, so that's okay.

It's just creepy if the girl is 18 because women can't make up their own minds at that age and everyone knows men are always up for it.

In one instance you have a guy taking advantage of a an 18 year old woman.

If the guy was 18 and there was 27 year old woman pursuing him, then he's a bauss. Because, SENSE! That's why.

Fat Christy

IrishEF wrote: »

I think it is morally wrong and kinda gives me the creeps when its thats age gap from 18 - 27.

Up to 18, a girl wouldnt have much life experience compared to a 27 year old fella.

Anyone agree???

No. Based on your argument we should only getting into relationships with people that are the same age. She's 18, if she was under the age of consent, then there would be an issue.

VisibleGorilla wrote: »

I would disagree. Are you male or female?

Nothing wrong with this at all. Most men would jump at the chance, and most older women would talk like you have "creepy" etc.. Jealousy plain and simple.

I doubt there would be a long term relationship but for a fling zero problems at all.

You can't speak for 'most men' or 'most women'. A silly argument to assume that 'most men' like the same thing and most older women are 'jealous' because a man decides to go out with a younger lady.