so, he swallowed a screw..

cbyrd

Yip, the 3 year old, second day in hospital and, excuse the pun, it's only turned in his tummy. All 32mm looks like we'll be here a while.

mordeith

cbyrd wrote: »

Yip, the 3 year old, second day in hospital and, excuse the pun, it's only turned in his tummy. All 32mm looks like we'll be here a while.

Ouch! Hope he's okay.

Tabnabs

Our GP gave me some sage advice about kids (and he has five of his own). Girls are smart, artistic, quiet, independent. Boys are great fun and will really make you laugh, but they are also total morons. As the father of two small boys, it turns out he's right!

Best of luck OP, he'll be grand, somehow...

cbyrd

Thanks, he's number 4 of 5, thought I'd seen it all he's swallowed a nut before but I didn't know til I found it in the loo, it gave him a bit of a fright though, thank God he came and told me cos it's a big pointy one

cyning

Oh jeepers... What do you do wait for it to pass?

tinkerbell

OMG :eek: how did he even manage to swallow that?! Was it not sore?! Poor lil pet Hope he's ok.

Diamond Doll

Oh ouch! You'd wonder what they'd be thinking, little maniacs! Probably a scarier experience for you than for him.

My mum always tells the story she found my then three year old sister sitting holding an open bottle of bleach. She wasn't sure if she'd drank any so they brought her to hospital, and they wanted to keep her in overnight to be on the safe side. The next morning, my parents returned to the hospital - she was gone from the hospital cot and no one knew where she was. Panic stations, naturally! She was eventually found in a cleaning supply room, doing her best to open the child-proof lid from another bottle of bleach!

cbyrd

It didn't hurt him, more fright really, he had an xray again this morning and it's not moved very much. I'm waiting for the doctors to see what's happening, once he shows no sign of distress or pain they'll xray regularly and wait for it to pass, otherwise it's surgery.

cyning

Oh yikes! Something to tease him about forever though hope he's out soon and feeling ok the poor mite

Mink

Tabnabs wrote: »

Our GP gave me some sage advice about kids (and he has five of his own). Girls are smart, artistic, quiet, independent. Boys are great fun and will really make you laugh, but they are also total morons. As the father of two small boys, it turns out he's right!
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I find it very hard to keep my 3yr old boy at playgroup. Most of the other toddlers (mainly girls) are sitting doing arts & crafts & playing ever so gently with their toys and all my son wants to do is go out to the playground and run around like a loon shouting.

When I was about 3 I brought home a friend (boy) from playschool for the afternoon. Within 5 minutes he'd showered with his clothes on, poured Tippex in his hair and gotten my 1st floor bedroom window open & had thrown one of my mam's plants out of it. I just looked on in silent awe.

cbyrd wrote: »

he's swallowed a nut before but I didn't know til I found it in the loo,

Maybe he thought the screw was a bolt?

In all seriousness I hope it passes soon!

January

Jesus C! Never a dull moment huh?!

Hope he's ok!

I've a girl who's like a boy!

pwurple

A screw! Oh yikes, poor thing. 32mm is big enough as well, how did he even manage to swallow that.

Old Perry

Ha the little toolbox, god love him. hope it passes without any harm done.

my cousin swallowed a 2p for some unknown reason when she was younger, managed to get it far enough to impede breathing but not fair enough as to reach the stomach. had to be removed.

in a similar vein to kids doing incomprehensibly silly things, i think i was 3/4 (i hope i wsnt older anyways :-)) when i decided to run round with a pencil sharp side up in my mouth, fell and now have a lovely cm deep hole in the roof of my mouth for me troubles. i can only imagine the screams out of me.

galah

Oh joy - hope it passes (pun intended :pac:).

Have two boys as well, and may just start to bribe the local A&E nurses for premium access so far, no personal injuries, however our 3.5 year old has managed to wedge a metal spike into one of the sockets (thought my heart would stop, thankfully it was in the earth part), same with a crayon (came running to me asking me to get the crayon out again - uuhhhm???), wanted to fill my car with the garden hose (tank locks! I finally found their purpose :rolleyes:), hid food on us in the house (mammy, the bananas are hiding! :eek:) and also managed to climb up onto the window sill, open the window and threw out my plants. How he even gets those ideas i dont know, it's not like we dont care

Friends who had a girl (the quiet, arty, book reading type) had us over, and told me not to worry about him, let him run around, their house was safe and sure what could he really get up to? Within minutes he found the family's xmas present stash (little girl didnt even know that space existed...), locked himself in the bathroom (thankfully unlockable from the outside), switch on their dryer, and then proceeded to throw the girls's furniture over the bannister down the stairs.

Suffice to say they don't have us over all that much any more

cbyrd

pwurple wrote:

A screw! Oh yikes, poor thing. 32mm is big enough as well, how did he even manage to swallow that.

I have no idea! Although he always eats apple cores and plum stones so I suppose screws are the next level
I think it did scratch his throat though cos he's still pulling the skin on his neck. This madman has a huge pain threshold, he bounces off things and just shakes I off.
He's coming home tomorrow, the hospital got on to Crumlin who said that once there is no pain or discomfort he'll be OK to pass it naturally.
I have to say I'm nervous about it, he bounces through the day, I'll be afraid he'll land on his belly and dislodge it!
Ffs, kids would melt your head!

Diamond Doll

How's he now, cbyrd? Any ... errrr ... movement?

Hannibal Smith

Cbyrd noooo!!! The hubby told me about this thread last night (he remembered you from Newbridge Farm). When they all finally give you 5 mins to sit down and form a single thought without interruption, you need to write a book!!

Havent got to page 2 yet but hope its all resolved soon!!

cbyrd

This little piggy wrote:

How's he now, cbyrd? Any ... errrr ... movement?

None yet, just back in the hospital now, his dad is doing the nightshifts, waiting for the doctors and maybe get him home today. He's fast asleep through beeping and buzzing and chatter.. I'm so envious

triple nipple

I... put the screw .... in the TUNA !!!

cbyrd

Hurray, it's out! He passed it this morning!

tickingclock

cbyrd wrote: »

Hurray, it's out! He passed it this morning!

I've been following this and hoped it would appear. Glad it finally did. It's unbelievable the things they eat!

Diamond Doll

I hope you kept it for him as a souvenir! :pac:

cbyrd

This little piggy wrote:

I hope you kept it for him as a souvenir!

It'll be stuck on the wall at the 21st

Neyite

Ya know, I was reading this when you started this thread Cbyrd, thinking thank fcuk my lad was never really interested in putting stuff in his mouth.

Well.

Today I'd to snatch about 5 different things out of his mouth and tell him off for it.

That'll teach me, eh?

RentDayBlues

I caught my two this week eating lumps of bark, from our compost heap 😫

Chewing on it like it was a slice of bread 😞

John Mason

Oh god this is all ahead of me.

I have a mental 14 month old who puts everything in his mouth. i cant even begin to start on the things he has done but at present, the stair gate is hanging off the wall, a wardrobe door is hanging off, the beautiful bookcase i made was ripped off the wall and currently being used a some kind of throwy thing.

I am drained, i leave in a world of chaos. my friends all have girls, he is the only boy out of 7, i see the pity in their eyes

Pawwed Rig

Tabnabs wrote: »

Girls are smart, artistic, quiet, independent. Boys are great fun and will really make you laugh, but they are also total morons. As the father of two small boys, it turns out he's right!

Speak for yourself / your own sons - not everyone else's. My little boy is very smart.

FactCheck

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Speak for yourself/ your own son not everyone else's. My little boy is very smart.

And my little girls are constantly getting into mischief and swallowing crazy stuff!

I hate putting tiny children into pigeonholes. :mad:

Can they not just be themselves? Why put weird gender expectations on them when they are happy and complete just being babies?

Zanablue

FactCheck wrote: »

And my little girls are constantly getting into mischief and swallowing crazy stuff!

I hate putting tiny children into pigeonholes. :mad:

Can they not just be themselves? Why put weird gender expectations on them when they are happy and complete just being babies?

I totally agree, I hate when people put children into pigeonholes.

My son was such a quiet little fella and never caused us any hassle. My daughter was as mad as a hatter, she put everything in her mouth and climbed everything that could be climbed, she was like a whirl wind!

cbyrd

Don't get me wrong, my boy is clever, runs rings around the 5 year old. That's what causes the problem.. He's bored. Trying to keep him amused is torture!
He's so much fun though I'd be lost without him

Pawwed Rig

cbyrd wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, my boy is clever, runs rings around the 5 year old.

I have no doubt about it but you did thank a post that called him a moron
Kids are energetic and curious so get into all sorts. It is when they are lethargic that you should worry. To say all little boys are stupid and all girls are smart is moronic* in the extreme and says more about the intelligence of the posters doctor and kids than anyone else.

*And irresponsible.

cbyrd

Pawwed Rig wrote:

I have no doubt about it but you did thank a post that called him a moron Kids are energetic and curious so get into all sorts. It is when they are lethargic that you should worry. To say all little boys are stupid and all girls are smart is moronic* in the extreme and says more about the intelligence of the posters doctor and kids than anyone else.

Sorry if you have nothing constructive to add to the thread why bother wasting your time?
Pc gone mad
Read the entire post I thanked, you read more words than moron!

It was also quite a stupid thing to do, swallow a screw, I've also seen all of my children at some point do lots of other stupid stuff,
Please don't use my thread to vent.

Pawwed Rig

Doing a stupid thing does not make a person stupid though. You said yourself that your child is smart. A child learns by exploring and curiosity. Their curiosity should not be used as a stick to beat them with. Learning is a wonderful thing. Sometimes it involves little accidents but that is all part of the learning process. We all learn by our mistakes but that doesn't make us morons.

Timberrrrrrrr

Ok here's my list of idiotic things the kids did over the years.

Daughter #1

Fell out of a tree and broke her arm

7 months later fell out of the same tree and broke other arm

Cut her hand (4 stitches) while trying to open a tin of cat food.

Daughter #2

Fell of the back of the sofa and broke her wrist

Fell off top bunk at 3 in the morning cracked 2 ribs.


Son #1

Jumped off the sofa, missed his landing and cracked his forehead off the coffee table (7 stitches)

Fell off bike, broken wrist

fell off skate board 2 broken fingers

Fell off wall, broken ankle.

Cut leg on an old fridge in friends garden, 1 stitches (8 internal 10 external)

Lost top of index finger when it got caught in bike chain.

Son #2

Climbed into his friends dogs kennel, stood up and cut top of his head on a nail, 9 stitches (nicknamed money box head by siblings for years after)

Broke both legs falling out of a tree (different one to his sister)

3 broken toes dropping one of my dumbells onto his foot.

Peanut stuck up his nose (that was a fun 3 hours in Temple street)

27 stitches in various places after coming off his bike into a ditch full of crap.


Boys are not dumber per se they just have more of an "I'm immortal" attitude when younger compared to girls.

Pawwed Rig

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

nicknamed money box head by siblings for years after

:pac:

Tabnabs

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Speak for yourself / your own sons - not everyone else's. My little boy is very smart.

Good for him, must have skipped a generation.

Sleepy

cbyrd wrote: »

Sorry if you have nothing constructive to add to the thread why bother wasting your time?
Pc gone mad
Read the entire post I thanked, you read more words than moron!

It was also quite a stupid thing to do, swallow a screw, I've also seen all of my children at some point do lots of other stupid stuff,
Please don't use my thread to vent.

It's posts like this that are making some of us father's feel unwelcome in the Parenting forum.

If this forum is to descend into yet another version of mumsonline where women feel free to be casually sexist about men and call "PC gone mad" when this is pointed out, then let's just be done with it and re-name it the "Mums Forum".

Neyite

Tabnabs wrote: »

Good for him, must have skipped a generation.

Mod:

Enough with the personal digs.

Everyone else - lets steer clear of gender generalisations, please.

bp

My mother thought she could fly after eating fish eyes and jumped off the garage roof!!!! No lasting injuries surprising enough!

dori_dormer

The week before my older sisters communion she jumped off a 7 foot wall. She was in a massive cast and couldn't walk on the day!

My younger sister decided to put the front wheel of her tricycle into the trailer of a friends tractor toy and get a lift. Bike fly backwards and she smashed her head open on the footpath.

January

Sleepy wrote: »

It's posts like this that are making some of us father's feel unwelcome in the Parenting forum.

If this forum is to descend into yet another version of mumsonline where women feel free to be casually sexist about men and call "PC gone mad" when this is pointed out, then let's just be done with it and re-name it the "Mums Forum".

I'm sorry, but I cannot see anywhere on this thread or in this forum in fact where fathers are made to feel unwelcome at all. One of my major draws to this forum in the first place was the fact that it wasn't a 'mummy's only' forum.

If you have a problem with the way this forum is run, PM one of us mods (if you want it to be unbiased and have a man look into it too, Orion is our daddy mod here.) We'll certainly take any concerns you have on board and discuss them.

mitresize5

Some people on this thread are taking themselves waaaaaaaaaay to seriously

I say that as the father of a two and a half year old stereo typical boy who has just discovered his willy and is determined to show all and sundry it at every available opportunity, supermarket, swimming pool, crèche..... Much to the consternation of his five year old sister

FactCheck

Yeah, the problem with going on and on about what a "stereotypical" little prince or princess you have is that the behaviour described is never actually all that "typical" to one gender. Guess what, loads of kids are obsessed with their genitals. Loads of kids are obsessed with trying to swallow dangerous stuff.

They don't do it because they're boys. They do it because they're TODDLERS.

I have a lot of time for the sentiments expressed thoughtfully and at great length here and elsewhere, along the lines of "in general, you do get a few more boys breaking their arms than girls". Right, that's fine. The reason I think it's a bit of stupid thing to focus on, though, is because as this thread proved it's a short leap from that statement to "boys are morons".

And while I'm mostly in agreement with Sleepy and Pawwed Rig here, I do differ from them, and perhaps I'm seeing it as a parent of girls, but I think they are quite wrong to think that this stuff only effects boys negatively, or that it wouldn't be tolerated if spoken about girls. Girls get an avalanche of negative gender stereotypes too. The flip side of "oooh these crazy typical boys" is that girls who are wild and adventurous are criticised much more harshly for the exact same behaviour (because they are supposed to "know better") which in turn leads to them doing it less! (That link is to one scientific study of many - it's behind a paywall but you can read the first couple of pages which outline the fairly significant body of study on this). Discouraging risk taking in girls is a big part of why we have fewer female entrepreneurs, fewer women in physical and risky careers, fewer female sportswomen. The flip side of the "boys are risk taking idiots" is girls hearing "adventure, exploration, and risks are not for you".

And it is all total crap and yes, it makes me really angry.

Mars Bar

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

(nicknamed money box head by siblings for years after)

This is the funniest thing I've read on Boards in months!

Pawwed Rig

FactCheck wrote: »

but I think they are quite wrong to think that this stuff only effects boys negatively, or that it wouldn't be tolerated if spoken about girls. Girls get an avalanche of negative gender stereotypes too. The flip side of "oooh these crazy typical boys" is that girls who are wild and adventurous are criticised much more harshly for the exact same behaviour (because they are supposed to "know better") which in turn leads to them doing it less!

I agree with all of that. I would never say it is only boys at all and will call out predjudice, sexism, racism, (inset any other ism), wherever and whenever I see it. The shaming tactics such as we see above like 'Some people on this thread are taking themselves waaaaaaaaaay to seriously' and 'Pc gone mad' never mind the personal abuse aimed at me above is water off a ducks back.The one thing that would shame me is if my little boy was ever on boards and saw that I called him a moron.

mitresize5

Mean while in a little corner of Ireland there is a three year old who has no idea his eating habits and subsequent bowl movements have prompted a pseudo debate on the injustice of generalisations of fellow toddlers into predefined stereo types.

Bravo that boy

cbyrd

That made me LOL!
I don't like when threads get derailed, I have 3 girls and 2 boys, 2 of my girls are older (16 13) I have never been to a and e as often as when I had my boys.
I have 6 brothers, the shÃ႒®te they got up to only got worse as they got older 

Boys definitely have the devil may care attitude, although my 13 year old daughter is a tomboy, she has only been in casualty once, she loves football and I cant get her into a dress. But she was never as wired as the boys, the youngest in particular, I'm sending him to gymnastics in September.
And yes in hindsight I would say their actions are moronic rather than the child, but I don't take every word to heart, I can see it for what it is. Old fashioned jesus Christ what is he doing 

John Mason

This thread is making me LOL, we all having a good laugh in the office about it.

I have no problem holding my hands up and admitting my 14 month old is a total moron especially when compared to the 7 girls the same age whom he hangs out with. They are just total Divas

Wanderer78

best of luck op. poor little fella. now wheres my bag of screws. im hungy!

Sleepy

FactCheck wrote: »

Yeah, the problem with going on and on about what a "stereotypical" little prince or princess you have is that the behaviour described is never actually all that "typical" to one gender. Guess what, loads of kids are obsessed with their genitals. Loads of kids are obsessed with trying to swallow dangerous stuff.

They don't do it because they're boys. They do it because they're TODDLERS.

I have a lot of time for the sentiments expressed thoughtfully and at great length here and elsewhere, along the lines of "in general, you do get a few more boys breaking their arms than girls". Right, that's fine. The reason I think it's a bit of stupid thing to focus on, though, is because as this thread proved it's a short leap from that statement to "boys are morons".

And while I'm mostly in agreement with Sleepy and Pawwed Rig here, I do differ from them, and perhaps I'm seeing it as a parent of girls, but I think they are quite wrong to think that this stuff only effects boys negatively, or that it wouldn't be tolerated if spoken about girls. Girls get an avalanche of negative gender stereotypes too. The flip side of "oooh these crazy typical boys" is that girls who are wild and adventurous are criticised much more harshly for the exact same behaviour (because they are supposed to "know better") which in turn leads to them doing it less! (That link is to one scientific study of many - it's behind a paywall but you can read the first couple of pages which outline the fairly significant body of study on this). Discouraging risk taking in girls is a big part of why we have fewer female entrepreneurs, fewer women in physical and risky careers, fewer female sportswomen. The flip side of the "boys are risk taking idiots" is girls hearing "adventure, exploration, and risks are not for you".

And it is all total crap and yes, it makes me really angry.

Couldn't agree more. I've a 6 year old girl and a 9 year old boy and, yes, the boy has been in hospital more but honestly, my daughter has just been luckier. She's far more likely to engage in risky behaviour than her older brother and would be the first to tell you that he's a "scaredy cat".

Myself and my wife make a point of not being overly protective parents, our kids are encouraged to go play in the dirt, cycle their bikes, come swimming in the ocean with me etc. because I've seen first-hand how being too risk averse has affected my own life. We try to teach them both how to identify danger and how to use appropriate levels of caution in dealing with it: when to recognise that something is stupid to do and when to realise that it might go wrong but the consequences won't kill them.

One tip cbyrd: be careul about letting your young fella get too far into the gymnastics. It's great fun until it gets competitive but then it can very quickly leave you with long term injuries if the training is too intense. Mrs Sleepy was on the verge of competing at Olympic level as a teenager and has numerous health complaints today which all have their roots in over-training back then (up to 3/4 hours a day at the time!).

PearlJ

As opposed to it being a boy/girl thing, I would be of the opinion that it depends on where you come in the family.

I have 2 boys, the eldest was never a bother. We never even needed a stairgate or a fire guard, he was the most placid little boy.

Then come the youngest who is a complete head the ball. He's been at A and E twice, broke a few lamps, tried to eat a live bird and if the stairgate is left open he goes for it like his life depended on it.

Most 2nd children I know are much wilder than the first.

Just a theory..