Get it stitched or not.

One shot on kill

Alright gents.
My dog has a split in the web between her toes. Nice. Little cut to be fair.
Vet wreckons she needs to be sidated and stitched. At a cost of 90-100 euro.
He wreckons it won't heal itself.

What do you guys think.

Kiltris

One shot on kill wrote: »

Alright gents.
My dog has a split in the web between her toes. Nice. Little cut to be fair.
Vet wreckons she needs to be sidated and stitched. At a cost of 90-100 euro.
He wreckons it won't heal itself.

What do you guys think.

Get it stitched. It's the one place thats hard to keep sterile and normally they will continously lick it aggrevating the wound.

Speaking from past experience.

patton69

if the wound is a few hours old theres no point stitching bacteria into the wound better to keep it sterile for a week and it should heal up but youd want to be really on top of it give her a shot of pen and strep repeated over a few days to fight any infection wash it out with saline and put alimycin spray to keep germs out as best you can they are a lot tougher than us we are too reliant on medicine and your vet is very reliant on your cash by the looks of it

patton69

oh and a dispirin\ aspirin for the pain appropriate dose for dogs size

One shot on kill

Ye I was thinking the very same thing to be honest.

garrettod

I'd get it stiched.....

RKMG

Not all vets are out to get you!!

Chances are the wound will heal on its own but the Vet opens themselves up to trouble if they give that advice and something then happens your dog.

The vet imo gave the best and most sensible advice irrelevant of cost, why take the risk of further complications over €100

easygoing1982

One shot on kill wrote: »

Vet wreckons she needs to be sidated and stitched.
He wreckons it won't heal itself.

What do you guys think.

Im no expert and in fact im just a lurker around here but this has to be the best post i've seen in a long time.

If a vet has physically assessed the dog and gave his advice, what makes you think a bunch of posters on a forum who havent even seen the dog can advice you any differ

allan450

patton69 wrote: »

if the wound is a few hours old theres no point stitching bacteria into the wound better to keep it sterile for a week and it should heal up but youd want to be really on top of it give her a shot of pen and strep repeated over a few days to fight any infection wash it out with saline and put alimycin spray to keep germs out as best you can they are a lot tougher than us we are too reliant on medicine and your vet is very reliant on your cash by the looks of it

good advice.keep her is inactive as possible.

lakesider

Im no expert and in fact im just a lurker around here but this has to be the
best post i've seen in a long time.





If a vet has physically assessed the dog and gave his advice, what makes you
think a bunch of posters on a forum who havent even seen the dog can advice you
any differ

here here..yep and unqualified posters at that..some of whom are even handing out veterinary advice about an animal they have never seen ....beggars belief!:rolleyes:

maggiepip

You should get that stitched, its going to keep re-splitting when your dog puts pressure on it.

Kiltris

easygoing1982 wrote: »

Im no expert and in fact im just a lurker around here but this has to be the best post i've seen in a long time.

If a vet has physically assessed the dog and gave his advice, what makes you think a bunch of posters on a forum who havent even seen the dog can advice you any differ

Exactly what I was thinking! If people don't trust their vet enough to go with his/her advice then they need a new vet.

td5

Its ALL about the £££££££££££ not the dog

aaakev

td5 wrote: »

Its ALL about the £££££££££££ not the dog

Seems to be, why go to the vet in the first place?

I think you should have gone with the vets advice lad, could turn into a very long term repeating injury now

Kiltris

It's not too late, like I said in my first post, it happened me before. Get it stitched and don't mind that nonsense about stitching in bacteria. Your vet will obviously give you antibiotics to fight any possible infection.

One shot on kill

Just to say. I'm on here a while an have gotten very good advice a good few times off regular posters some of whom have vast experience in taking care of hunting dogs and have seen a lot of I jury's to there dogs.

Although what's the point of this forum if we can't discuss topics like this.

Also the dog was in the vet getting her booster and tick treatment and had cut her foot the day before. So the vet could not obviously treat her there and then or admit here to be sidated.

Having said all that all the advice seems to be good and now I know for certain the direction I should be going.

easygoing1982

One shot on kill wrote: »

Although what's the point of this forum if we can't discuss topics like this.

As far as i'm concerned this topic is no different than going to one of the illness/health forums and asking for medical advice which is not allowed for obvious reasons

For instance how could a user safely say no that injury does not need stitches without looking at the injury.

I'd like you to honestly answer this question. If the vet had of said that the injury doesn't require treatment, keep your €100 would you still have posted here looking for posters advice.

One shot on kill

I prob wouldn't of to be fair.

patton69

easygoing1982 wrote: »

As far as i'm concerned this topic is no different than going to one of the illness/health forums and asking for medical advice which is not allowed for obvious reasons

For instance how could a user safely say no that injury does not need stitches without looking at the injury.

I'd like you to honestly answer this question. If the vet had of said that the injury doesn't require treatment, keep your €100 would you still have posted here looking for posters advice.

says the same lad dishing out health advice

easygoing1982

patton69 wrote: »

says the same lad dishing out health advice

where?

patton69

easygoing1982 wrote: »

where?

im guessing you work in the medical profession , do you keep and work dogs

easygoing1982

patton69 wrote: »

says the same lad dishing out health advice

patton69 wrote: »

im guessing you work in the medical profession , do you keep and work dogs

your guessing wrong why you'd guess that i dont know and no i dont keep or work dogs but it wouldnt take einstein to figure out not to ignore a vets opinion and ask anonymous posters on a forum.

Mods:i apologise for taking the thread off topic and would ask patton69 to PM if he has an issue with me.Cheers

allan450

its a common injury treated with common sense.

lakesider

allan450 wrote: »

its a common injury treated with common sense.

common sense is not so common, a professional opinion was sought and that advice said to stitch the wound to ensure it wouldnt be an ongoing issue ..that advice from the professional was ditched due to the cost involved..and the next recourse was to seek veterinary advice from a bunch of lads on the net who didnt even need to see this dog to give their proffesional opinion:rolleyes:

If I took my dog to a vet with a similar issue and the vet reccomended stitching..then the dog would have left his surgery stitched..thats common sense!..seems the unfortunate dog in this case doesnt merit a few bobs worth of care:mad:..then they have the neck to call themselves doggy men:o

patton69

easygoing1982 wrote: »

your guessing wrong why you'd guess that i dont know and no i dont keep or work dogs but it wouldnt take einstein to figure out not to ignore a vets opinion and ask anonymous posters on a forum.

Mods:i apologise for taking the thread off topic and would ask patton69 to PM if he has an issue with me.Cheers

so you dont keep dogs:eek:
you see this thread is more a reflection on vets than anything else the op is gonna do what hes gonna do but vets have been roasting people and i mean really roasting people for years where some people who do actually keep dogs have learned to treat most minor injuries and issues themselves
but its slowly being taken away and the cost is rising and rising you can hardly flea your dog now without going to a vets now , he did ask , personally i trust my vet and if he recommended it be stitched id have it done if i hadnt the money id pay him when i did but not everyone trusts their vet and rightly so
and ive nothing against you https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.terrierman.com%2Fantibiotics.htm&ei=9AmeVbT4Jq6t7AaC-4T4Dw&usg=AFQjCNE0Dcv0bTVsrB5FqNo2F2xy21YPrw&sig2=o53Qa_-1TkgKNqcH6XET7A read this probably give you a stroke

maggiepip

patton69 wrote: »

so you dont keep dogs:eek:
you see this thread is more a reflection on vets than anything else the op is gonna do what hes gonna do but vets have been roasting people and i mean really roasting people for years where some people who do actually keep dogs have learned to treat most minor injuries and issues themselves
but its slowly being taken away and the cost is rising and rising you can hardly flea your dog now without going to a vets now , he did ask , personally i trust my vet and if he recommended it be stitched id have it done if i hadnt the money id pay him when i did but not everyone trusts their vet and rightly so
and ive nothing against you https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.terrierman.com%2Fantibiotics.htm&ei=9AmeVbT4Jq6t7AaC-4T4Dw&usg=AFQjCNE0Dcv0bTVsrB5FqNo2F2xy21YPrw&sig2=o53Qa_-1TkgKNqcH6XET7A read this probably give you a stroke

I agree some vets can suggest unnecessary treatment and there's some pretty incompetent vets out there too, so why doesn't the op change vets? His post really truly comes across that he doesn't want to part with his money, foot injuries are tricky and can be difficult to heal. I've changed vets 4 times to find one I'm very happy with.

One shot on kill

If I took my dog to a vet with a similar issue and the vet reccomended stitching..then the dog would have left his surgery stitched..thats common sense!..seems the unfortunate dog in this case doesnt merit a few bobs worth of care:mad:..then they have the neck to call themselves doggy men:o[/QUOTE]

An what would you stay in the vets for near a weak till the dogs appointment was available. Because I do know the vet couldn't do it straight away if you read trough the full post.
And just so you know the dog is very well looked after. 100 euro although is small money might not be as easy to come across as some other people. So even doe your opinion is greatly appriated I'd like to ask you to to asume tha everything is black and white. And becuase a question was asked assuming that the dog is poorly minded

As parts said some vets would ride you as quick the same vet that nite was trying to charge me for the second booster when he himself told me it was free. Then tryed to says she needed the first injection agai. Because it was a few days over the four weeks. The old timer vet is gone from there the one vet around that was honest and fair to every one. Also no way would my vet take the dog in with out been paid up front.

maggiepip

You should change vet, wanting to re-do a whole course of vaccinations because its a few days out is nonsense, its also very bad for the dog. Hows your dogs foot now?

lakesider

An what would you stay in the vets for near a weak till the dogs appointment
was available. Because I do know the vet couldn't do it straight away if you
read trough the full post.


And just so you know the dog is very well looked after. 100 euro although is
small money might not be as easy to come across as some other people. So even
doe your opinion is greatly appriated I'd like to ask you to to asume tha
everything is black and white. And becuase a question was asked assuming that
the dog is poorly minded

Taking on the care of an animal any animal brings with it a certain amount of responsibility, that said an injury to a working dog is something anyone with any amount of experience will come to expect, its more of an eventuality than anything else..so access to veterinary insurance or having a few bob laid aside is pretty much a prerequisite in my book..if I couldnt afford to have my dog atteneded to in the event of an injury then quite simply I would consider myself disentitled to own one!!
Theres a terrible attitude in this country when it comes to animal welfare imo!!

As parts said some vets would ride you as quick the same vet that nite was
trying to charge me for the second booster when he himself told me it was free.
Then tryed to says she needed the first injection agai. Because it was a few
days over the four weeks. The old timer vet is gone from there the one vet
around that was honest and fair to every one. Also no way would my vet take the
dog in with out been paid up front

I would reconsider my vet then, but an internet forum is no place for either veterinary advice or medical advice of any kind, thats best left in the hand of the proffesionals!

patton69

lakesider wrote: »

Taking on the care of an animal any animal brings with it a certain amount of responsibility, that said an injury to a working dog is something anyone with any amount of experience will come to expect, its more of an eventuality than anything else..so access to veterinary insurance or having a few bob laid aside is pretty much a prerequisite in my book..if I couldnt afford to have my dog atteneded to in the event of an injury then quite simply I would consider myself disentitled to own one!!
Theres a terrible attitude in this country when it comes to animal welfare imo!!




I would reconsider my vet then, but an internet forum is no place for either veterinary advice or medical advice of any kind, thats best left in the hand of the proffesionals!

there are some real sh1ts on here ignorance of the highest order myself included .

easygoing1982

patton69 wrote: »

there are some real sh1ts on here

that's it. Start abusing everyone now.

In future we'll check what your opinion is and we'll try stay within the confines of that.

patton69

easygoing1982 wrote: »

that's it. Start abusing everyone now.

In future we'll check what your opinion is and we'll try stay within the confines of that.

you deleted the end of my statement to suit yourself there kid and that does not include everyone either i said some you must be 1 of us

One shot on kill

patton69 wrote: »

there are some real sh1ts on here ignorance of the highest order myself included .

I'd agree with you and won't exclude myself.

But I'm reading a lot of I would and wouldn't do x y or z. But know had recomended a vet or somewhere to go.

maggiepip

One shot on kill wrote: »

I'd agree with you and won't exclude myself.

But I'm reading a lot of I would and wouldn't do x y or z. But know had recomended a vet or somewhere to go.

You never asked anyone to recommend a vet and I certainly don't know what part of the country you're in. You asked should you get your dogs foot stiched and only liked the replies that suited what you wanted to hear, and now you're playing the poor me victim cos apparently people are supposed to tell you what suits you and read your mind at the same time. I actually asked you how was your dog doing but obviously that wasn't important enough to bother with.

patton69

maggiepip wrote: »

You never asked anyone to recommend a vet and I certainly don't know what part of the country you're in. You asked should you get your dogs foot stiched and only liked the replies that suited what you wanted to hear, and now you're playing the poor me victim cos apparently people are supposed to tell you what suits you and read your mind at the same time. I actually asked you how was your dog doing but obviously that wasn't important enough to bother with.

we better watch out the doggy snobs are out in force i know a fair few elderly people whom cannot afford unsuspected vets bills high 1s at that does that mean they do not deserve the company love and affection of a dog people lose their jobs fall on hard times suffer mental illnesses and so on
and the therapeutic value of having a dog companion may be what gets them through so just because people cannot afford ridiculously high overpriced vet bills does not entitle them to own a dog as someone mentioned the height of ignorance i say so the op is being accused of being cruel and undeserving of a dog now when he in fact had his dog in the vets caring for him in the 1st place when this was noticed a bunch of dublin city hipsters i reckon im dealing with here :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

One shot on kill

There you go Maggie I like your couple of posts. Hope you feel included now.

I also appriate your concern for the dog and just so you don't slate me for been rude aswell as cruel to my dog. She is doing well. To be fair you wouldn't even know there is anything wrong with her. She is looked up to let her off her paw till the vet has time to see her and take her in.
When I read your early post I actually had to go back to work and it slipped my mind to reply to to.

It seems you have a little bit of selective reading yourself. If you took the time to look under where my name is you would see my location.

Thanks for your valued input.



And just to put it down so people can read it.
Does any one know of a good honest vet around the Kildare area. That isn't going to cost a fortune because unfortunately I'm not in a position to sell a kidney.

maggiepip

patton69 wrote: »

we better watch out the doggy snobs are out in force i know a fair few elderly people whom cannot afford unsuspected vets bills high 1s at that does that mean they do not deserve the company love and affection of a dog people lose their jobs fall on hard times suffer mental illnesses and so on
and the therapeutic value of having a dog companion may be what gets them through so just because people cannot afford ridiculously high overpriced vet bills does not entitle them to own a dog as someone mentioned the height of ignorance i say so the op is being accused of being cruel and undeserving of a dog now when he in fact had his dog in the vets caring for him in the 1st place when this was noticed a bunch of dublin city hipsters i reckon im dealing with here :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

I never said any of the above so I don't know why you're directing that at me.

maggiepip

One shot on kill wrote: »

There you go Maggie I like your couple of posts. Hope you feel included now.

I also appriate your concern for the dog and just so you don't slate me for been rude aswell as cruel to my dog. She is doing well. To be fair you wouldn't even know there is anything wrong with her. She is looked up to let her off her paw till the vet has time to see her and take her in.
When I read your early post I actually had to go back to work and it slipped my mind to reply to to.

It seems you have a little bit of selective reading yourself. If you took the time to look under where my name is you would see my location.

Thanks for your valued input.



And just to put it down so people can read it.
Does any one know of a good honest vet around the Kildare area. That isn't going to cost a fortune because unfortunately I'm not in a position to sell a kidney.

Never accused you of any cruelty and I'm glad to hear your dogs doing ok. By the way sudocreme is very helpful, I've used it on my own dogs foot when shes skinned her paw pads, which shes done a few times.

A couple of years ago a poster on boards recommended Beaufield Vets in Celbridge Kildare to me, brilliant,apparently ,and fair and reasonable with their prices.She couldn't praise Paddy and Finbarr enough. I went with a different recommendation as it was in Meath so I've never actually used them myself. Maybe of help.

One shot on kill

Great Maggie I'll try the above thanks.

easygoing1982

One shot on kill wrote: »

Also the dog was in the vet getting her booster and tick treatment and had cut her foot the day before. So the vet could not obviously treat her there and then or admit here to be sidated.

One shot on kill wrote: »

And just to put it down so people can read it.
Does any one know of a good honest vet around the Kildare area. That isn't going to cost a fortune because unfortunately I'm not in a position to sell a kidney.

Did you have to sell a kidney when you originally brought your dog to the vet or this just a little act for the few bleeding hearts out there giving you the sympathy vote

One shot on kill

easygoing1982 wrote: »

Did you have to sell a kidney when you originally brought your dog to the vet or this just a little act for the few bleeding hearts out there giving you the sympathy vote

Your still lurking anyway fair play

Another well placed and constructive post from you.
Thanks for that.

easygoing1982

One shot on kill wrote: »

Your still lurking anyway fair play

certain posters draw me away from my lurking perch and you with your violin playing in the background are one of them.

One shot on kill wrote: »

Another well placed and constructive post from you.
Thanks for that.

A well placed post? It's simply a reply to your post.

So let's recap. You went to a vet to get treatment for dog. Said vet advised dog needs stitches which will cost €100. Your not happy with this so ask on an anonymous forum from people who havent looked at the dog if you should get the stitches even though a qualified vet has on visual inspection of dog advised you to do so.

You later admit if there was no mention of the the €100 you would not have posted this so really looking at this I'd take a guess that if the main opinion was not to get stitches by and i state again anonymous random posters you would have and it actually looks as if you still have left the dog without stitches leaving it open to infection.

I hope you buy something nice out of the €100.Make abandoning the welfare really worthwhile.

lakesider

we better watch out the doggy snobs are out in force i know a fair few elderly people whom cannot afford unsuspected
vets bills high 1s at that does that mean they do not deserve the company love
and affection of a dog people lose their jobs fall on hard times suffer mental
illnesses and so on


and the therapeutic value of having a dog companion may be what gets them
through so just because people cannot afford ridiculously high overpriced vet
bills does not entitle them to own a dog as someone mentioned the height of
ignorance i say so the op is being accused of being cruel and undeserving of a
dog now when he in fact had his dog in the vets caring for him in the 1st place
when this was noticed a bunch of dublin city hipsters i reckon im dealing with
here

A bunch of Dublin hipsters!!...you couldnt be further from the truth,,ive been workin dogs for 40 years now in the west of Ireland,,,the only difference between me and you is when one of my dogs gets injured im quite prepared to call in and pay for real help...whereas you on the other hand run a mile and get on the internet to soothe your conscience over what amounts to neglect..so go look in the mirror and see the real picture!!:mad:

patton69

and where does it say i neglect my dogs or run to the internet for help i suggest you read back over all my posts in this thread ,, do your homework sorry for calling you a dublin hipster when in fact it turns out your a thick culchie :eek:

Cass

Christ. :rolleyes:

Have let this run as long as i can, but it seems it's beyond recovery.

Thread closed.