You need to know who Max Martin is right now

Boring username

Please excuse the blatant clickbait title change, I am experimenting with mass marketing manipulation at the moment.

Anway....what have all these songs got it common?

• Taylor Swift- "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"
• Taylor Swift- "Shake It Off"
• Taylor Swift-"Bad Blood"
• Taylor Swift- “I Knew You Were Trouble”
• Bon Jovi-"It's my Life"
• Backstreet Boys- “I Want It That Way”
• Backstreet Boys- “Quit Playin’ Games (With My Heart)”
• Katy Perry- "Roar"
• Katy Perry- “Hot N Cold”
• Katy Perry- "I Kissed a Girl"
• Katy Perry feat. Juicy J- "Dark Horse"
• Katy Perry featuring Kanye West- "E.T."
• Katy Perry- "Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)"
• Katy Perry-"Part of Me"
• Katy Perry- “Wide Awake”
• Katy Perry feat. Snoop Dogg- "California Gurls"
• Katy Perry- "Teenage Dream"
• Ellie Goulding-"Love me like you do"
• Ariana Grande- “Break Free”
• Ariana Grande, Jessie J, Nicki Minaj- “Bang Bang”
• Jessie J-“Domino”
• Maroon 5- "One More Night"
• Britney Spears- "…Baby One More Time"
• Britney Spears- "Oops I did it again"
• 'N Sync- "It's Gonna Be Me"
• P!nk- "So What"
• P!nk- "Raise Your Glass"
• James Blunt-"Carry you home"
• Kelly Clarkson- "My Life Would Suck Without You"
• Kelly Clarkson- "Since you've been gone"
• Nicki Minaj-"Va Va Voom"
• Britney Spears- "3"
• Britney Spears- "Hold It Against Me"
• Usher – “DJ Got Us Fallin’ In Love” (Feat. Pitbull)
• Avril Lavigne – “What The Hell”
• Taio Cruz – “Dynamite”

If you said that they were all written and/or produced by one man, then you are right!


The full line up is even more astonishing-most of these songs you have heard, some you haven't:
http://www.maratone.se/producers/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Martin_production_discography
http://www.cracked.com/article_18845_6-secret-monopolies-you-didnt-know-run-world_p2.html


Just in case you thought 'artists' still existed in the mainstream music scene. They were squeezed out or sidelined years ago. It's all about entertainment and dollah bills now babez!

Standing by for lots of butthurt fanboys and girls..... :pac:

Boring username

And now for a little mischief.....

Generic Dreadhead

Yeah..... here's a video about the guy

Lia_lia

Probably the most annoying song list ever!

SEPT 23 1989

Boring username wrote: »

Anway....what have all these songs got it common?

:

They are all sh1t

Badly Drunk Boy

I feel like my eyes have been opened to the ultimate Truth!


(I've only ever heard of 4 of those songs. I think I'm glad of that.)

BattleCorp

I wonder how much he is worth?

kneemos

You mean Brittany didn't write her own songs!

For shame.

kneemos

BattleCorp wrote: »

I wonder how much he is worth?

Didn't watch the video now did ya?


No you didn't.

Generic Dreadhead

kneemos wrote: »

Didn't watch the video now did ya?

No you didn't.

Easier to just comment yanno :pac:

evolving_doors

this thread is going nowhere..... unless you can confirm he's part of the illuminatii. Then it would make sense.

Banjo String

BattleCorp wrote: »

I wonder how much he is worth?

Bout fiddy tree.

Nodin

Boring username wrote: »

.............
Standing by for lots of butthurt fanboys and girls..... :pac:

Yes, as a life long Katie perry fan I'm shocked, hurt and disgusted at her lack of musical integrity. But I suppose I'll have to wipe the tears from my greying beard and carry on......despite the pain, the terrible, terrible pain.

Fat Christy

I love all of those songs!

Boring username

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They are all sh1t

That's the thing though, many of them actually aren't sh1t. They're nauseating catchy 'earworms' than get stuck in your head. Are they art? Not a hope. Bubblegum pop entertainment? Very much so. Some of the melodies and chord changes are extremely well crafted, as well as the clever use of vocal double-tracking. Take that Katy Perry song, hot n' cold-you could imagine Green Day singing that.
The performers are still pond life though.

BattleCorp

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They are all sh1t

Solid gold sh1t. $$$

NachoBusiness

Anyone remember the MTV live performance where Kelly Clarkson sung Since You've Been Gone in faux rain with no underwear on?

Just me? Really? Fair enough so.

brummytom

kneemos wrote: »

Didn't watch the video now did ya?


No you didn't.

I did and ended up wanting to throw my laptop out the window. What an annoying prick.

inforfun

Why does hat guy in that youtube clip look like Amy Farah Fowler with pink hair?

And the thing all those song have in common is that they are utter ****. But then againl, only a few songs were not in the last 20/25 years

SmilesInMass

inforfun wrote: »

Why does hat guy in that youtube clip look like Amy Farah Fowler with pink hair?

And the thing all those song have in common is that they are utter ****. But then againl, only a few songs were not in the last 20/25 years

Out of the thousands and thousands of songs released in the last 20/25 years, only a few were good? I think you've been listening to the wrong music tbh

Boring username

brummytom wrote: »

I did and ended up wanting to throw my laptop out the window. What an annoying prick.

That shriek in the first half second stirred some sort of primitive rage within me.

Adyx

This is pretty much how popular music has always been since its conception.

yellowlabrador

inforfun

SmilesInMass wrote: »

Out of the thousands and thousands of songs released in the last 20/25 years, only a few were good? I think you've been listening to the wrong music tbh

Just not a big fan of the "look-mommy-no-hands" music.

IMO a DJ has a case full of vinyl or at a stretch cd's ... not a laptop.

Irish Guitarist

Not exactly hard to believe they're written by the same person. They're not incredibly different or anything. If you said the same person wrote Straight Outta Compton and Knees Up Mother Brown that would be a bit of a surprise alright.

biko

Max Martin is so cool. I really liked the latest film, Furry Road.

pablomakaveli

The edginess in this thread "these songs are ****". Yes they probably are but they've been very successful. If you want a successful song, you want something thats simple,catchy and has a broad appeal. That guy has cracked the formula for that and is minted for it. Have to give him credit where it's due.

SmilesInMass

inforfun wrote: »

Just not a big fan of the "look-mommy-no-hands" music.

IMO a DJ has a case full of vinyl or at a stretch cd's ... not a laptop.

Yeah I'm in the same boat. But there has been tons of that coming out over the years as well to be fair, Boiler Room is the site to check out for good DJing.

Boring username

pablomakaveli wrote: »

The edginess in this thread "these songs are ****". Yes they probably are but they've been very successful. If you want a successful song, you want something thats simple,catchy and has a broad appeal. That guy has cracked the formula for that and is minted for it. Have to give him credit where it's due.

I agree with you here. There's a certain genius in creating simple catchy songs like Martin does. As I said earlier, art is DEAD now, so why not accept that and milk the cattle for all they are worth.

Boring username

Oh very clever, the mods are changing the title randomly to keep in tune (hah) with the clickbait feel of this thread.

Conall Cernach

Boring username wrote: »

I agree with you here. There's a certain genius in creating simple catchy songs like Martin does. As I said earlier, art is DEAD now, so why not accept that and milk the cattle for all they are worth.

That "Shake it off" has got to be one of the most insanely catchy songs of the last few years. If this guy had a hand in writing it or any other hit songs then fair dues to him, it's not as if he'd doing anything new this is just another incarnation of Tin Pan Alley. You'd think the way some people are going on that all pop music was some sort of deep and meaningful expression of a tortured soul until this guy came along and ruined it by writing and producing for good looking, easily marketable pop stars.

justchecked

At first I was surprised but then I wasn't.

Fat Christy

Cormac... wrote: »

Yeah..... here's a video about the guy

Love that guy.

DeadHand

Boring username wrote: »

art is DEAD now, so why not accept that and milk the cattle for all they are worth.

I'd agree that there is a lot of lazy tat on all media now but art is far from dead. There is still a lot of great music, cinema and television being made alongside the hogwash.

pablomakaveli

DeadHand wrote: »

I'd agree that there is a lot of lazy tat on all media now but art is far from dead. There is still a lot of great music, cinema and television being made alongside the hogwash.

What is great music,cinema or television though? At the end of the day art is purely subjective.

Junkyard Tom

How the hell is a person suffering with Parkinson's disease supposed to shake it off?

DEFTLEFTHAND

These artists are part of the Entertainment Industry. Artists in the Music Industry still by and large write and play their own material.

Summer wind

This is just the same as Stock Aiken and Waterman back in the 80's. Remember all those songs that were catchy and sounded alike. Most were sang by Kylie Minogue, Sonia, Jason Donovan and Bannarama. As an experiment they even got the tea boy from the office to record one of their songs. Couple of weeks later the star we know as Rick Astley hit the charts.

One eyed Jack

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Anyone remember the MTV live performance where Kelly Clarkson sung Since You've Been Gone in faux rain with no underwear on?

Just me? Really? Fair enough so.

Heh, I'm guessing that's on the unseen footage DVD?

Meanwhile, you wouldn't catch Taylor Swift wearing no underwear. Nope, big granny pants are where it's at apparently -

Fat Christy

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Heh, I'm guessing that's on the unseen footage DVD?

Meanwhile, you wouldn't catch Taylor Swift wearing no underwear. Nope, big granny pants are where it's at apparently -

Granny pants FTW!!!

NachoBusiness

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Heh, I'm guessing that's on the unseen footage DVD? [/youtube]

Nope, it was broadcast live. The 'rain' made her bottoms slip a few inches was all.

Think there is some screen caps of it somewhere. You got to see half her wet butt and and enough of her frontal zone area region to make it very clear she eh.. loves Hollywood (I sound like Patrick Stewart on Extras). There is an edited version on YouTube which is still good enough to fap to, don't get me wrong, but without the wardrobe malfunction it's just not the same really. Boy did she have a cracking body back then though. Not that I still wouldn't, I absolutely would. I've said too much haven't I. I'll stop talking now. Stopped.

Boring username

Conall Cernach wrote: »

That "Shake it off" has got to be one of the most insanely catchy songs of the last few years. If this guy had a hand in writing it or any other hit songs then fair dues to him, it's not as if he'd doing anything new this is just another incarnation of Tin Pan Alley. You'd think the way some people are going on that all pop music was some sort of deep and meaningful expression of a tortured soul until this guy came along and ruined it by writing and producing for good looking, easily marketable pop stars.

Well to a certain extent music in the 60s, 70s, and 80s was relatively 'real' (although there was always an element of manufactured bands during those periods too i.e. the monkees, abba, Kylie etc...).

But the cold hard reality is that manufactured pop music is by and large what the majority of people want/tolerate in today's musical free market. So the customer gets what the public wants. And that means 'genuine' artists get sidelined or left behind because they simply aren't profitable. It's simple economics at the end of the day.

cloud493

Hey hey you shut your mouth nobody insults Taylor Swift like that :mad:

SmilesInMass

Boring username wrote: »

Well to a certain extent music in the 60s, 70s, and 80s was relatively 'real' (although there was always an element of manufactured bands during those periods too i.e. the monkees, abba, Kylie etc...).

But the cold hard reality is that manufactured pop music is by and large what the majority of people want/tolerate in today's musical free market. So the customer gets what the public wants. And that means 'genuine' artists get sidelined or left behind because they simply aren't profitable. It's simple economics at the end of the day.

That's really not the case at all though. The Internet is the great leveller when it comes to art. Bands are touring the world, selling records and earning a decent living off their own back in a lot of cases. It's cut of the middleman and let's bands/artists get the music straight to the fans.

Even in the case of smaller record labels such as XL, Rough Trade, Stones Throw, Brainfeeder and Modular Recordings, they are putting out albums that are getting acclaimed year after year. And that's just a handful of labels off the top of my head. The quality and quantity of great music has never been as good as it is now.

Boring username

SmilesInMass wrote: »

That's really not the case at all though. The Internet is the great leveller when it comes to art. Bands are touring the world, selling records and earning a decent living off their own back in a lot of cases. It's cut of the middleman and let's bands/artists get the music straight to the fans.

Even in the case of smaller record labels such as XL, Rough Trade, Stones Throw, Brainfeeder and Modular Recordings, they are putting out albums that are getting acclaimed year after year. And that's just a handful of labels off the top of my head. The quality and quantity of great music has never been as good as it is now.

True, but none of them would be considered mainstream. The big players are mostly the manufactured ones.

Generic Dreadhead

Fat Christy wrote: »

Love that guy.

Yeah, one of my 1st Youtube subscriptions, I like to keep my sub list elite!!!

SmilesInMass

Boring username wrote: »

True, but none of them would be considered mainstream. The big players are mostly the manufactured ones.

In some cases, but not as much as you'd think really. I just had a look at the billboard top 100 and among the pop stars in the top 10 such as Taylor Swift, Selena Gomez & David Guetta are Fetty Wap, a rapper who's song Trap Queen blew up online. Kendrick Lamar, albeit featured on Taylor Swifts song but he's still considered the best rapper alive and has two critically alcaimed albums under his belt. The Weeknd, a dark r&b singer from Canada who blew up again from the Internet and is now starting to take over mainstream radio. Hardly what you'd call manufactured.

Boring username

SmilesInMass wrote: »

In some cases, but not as much as you'd think really. I just had a look at the billboard top 100 and among the pop stars in the top 10 such as Taylor Swift, Selena Gomez & David Guetta are Fetty Wap, a rapper who's song Trap Queen blew up online. Kendrick Lamar, albeit featured on Taylor Swifts song but he's still considered the best rapper alive and has two critically alcaimed albums under his belt. The Weeknd, a dark r&b singer from Canada who blew up again from the Internet and is now starting to take over mainstream radio. Hardly what you'd call manufactured.

Well hopefully this does indeed come to pass, I would like to see the bar being raised in terms of modern culture when it comes to music. But the fact remains that presently almost all the big names are manufactured. It remains to be seen whether the online bands will have the potential to truly revolutionise the music scene by taking over the mainstream. I would suspect though that you would need the assistance of one of the major labels to do this, and that means getting into bed with them......

Fat Christy

OP, can you please refrain from changing the title of the thread? The constant title changes are annoying me and it's not an annoyance I can simply 'shake off'.

If you do it again, I'm afraid you leave me with no option but to write a whole album about you.

Wibbs

Boring username wrote: »

Well to a certain extent music in the 60s, 70s, and 80s was relatively 'real' (although there was always an element of manufactured bands during those periods too i.e. the monkees, abba, Kylie etc...).

Abba? Are you in earnest Sir? They were most certainly not "manufactured", pop, yes, but as real as it gets. Actual songwriters and fantastic singers. No back room boys and auto tune going on there.

Plus music was rarely enough "real' back in the day. Mainstream pop anyway where singer songwriters were thin enough on the ground. I'd reckon the 70's would have been about the peak of it. The 50's was Tin Pan alley, rooms of writers knocking out hit after hit. Buddy Holly would have been one of the outliers there what with writing his own material. The Beatles coming along in the 60's were initially outliers too. You write your own songs, ah go away outa that was the attitude. At first.

RobertKK

On Taylor Swift's 1989 deluxe album, she explains how she writes songs. She explains how she took Blank Space to Max Martin and Johan Shellback for a 'session'. She had the music and some of the words like the chorus, and what one gets from what she says. She has the song, the music and together they add the finishing touches to the song.