Barnageeragh Cove, Skerries

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I have also asked the EA twice if there was going to be social housing in the estate, they said no. We've bought across the road from Hamilton Hill, and we've also had terrible experience with social housing in our previous place, including intimidation and harassment, so no more of that for us, ever! Barnageeragh Cove seems very quiet, it will be great once we move in there (hopefully in a month or two!)

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And also double checked it with <mod snip> when we were placing the deposit back in November.

CyberSecurity

ILikeBoats wrote: »

Don't hold me to this but I heard that the developer has paid a fee/donation or something along those lines which means they don't need to supply any social housing in the development.

Just got clarification back from Fingal CoCo Housing Dept. on this.
You were right, Builder paid a contribution back when the 1st application was submitted for Barnageeragh Cove. All phases after initial phase of the estate are just extensions to the original phase and thus no provision for % of units to be made available...so no social housing in the estate.

Any new applications for planning post September 2015 (have a mandatory 10% of units available as social housing).

ILikeBoats

CyberSecurity wrote: »

Just got clarification back from Fingal CoCo Housing Dept. on this.

That's good to know, thanks!

Hamilton Hiller

Maybe the petrol station is holding up sales at the minute . Show house will not be ready for viewing until late may even the start of June . Maybe they are stalling on the construction until the 1st phase completely sells out . Also I'd say that some people in the development who recently purchased in Heron and Sanderling would much preferred to be on the other side of the development (HH) as it seems a separate estate (less busy and over looked) . Anyone get contracts to sign ? Also would I be correct in saying 335k is only an asking price ? I've noticed some houses from the above never reached the quoted prices by the EA ?

CyberSecurity

Hamilton Hiller wrote: »

Maybe the petrol station is holding up sales at the minute . Show house will not be ready for viewing until late may even the start of June . Maybe they are stalling on the construction until the 1st phase completely sells out . Also I'd say that some people in the development who recently purchased in Heron and Sanderling would much preferred to be on the other side of the development (HH) as it seems a separate estate (less busy and over looked) . Anyone get contracts to sign ? Also would I be correct in saying 335k is only an asking price ? I've noticed some houses from the above never reached the quoted prices by the EA ?

Out of interest , where are you pulling your figures from re quoted sales in HH?
or are you referring to units in last phase that have previously been sold.?
Regarding Petrol station, it still hasnt been approved to the best of my knowledge. I have been keeping an eye on the planning app on fingal site... no update as of 22 feb and the planning app seems to be gone from fingal site when viewed from the map... have just asked Fingal for clarification on this. Will keep you posted

Hamilton Hiller

CyberSecurity wrote: »

Out of interest , where are you pulling your figures from re quoted sales in HH?
or are you referring to units in last phase that have previously been sold.?
Regarding Petrol station, it still hasnt been approved to the best of my knowledge. I have been keeping an eye on the planning app on fingal site... no update as of 22 feb.

There was a showing the other night and the agents gave the numbers of the remaining units . So you can calculate the amount of houses sold v unsold . Heron and sanderling are sold out . Petrol station plans are being revised to scale down the entire size of the development and omit the fast food aspect . It is quite a substantial size and the road frontage that is fenced off for the petrol station maybe a similar size to the HH site size so maybe scaling back is not a bad thing . But if you look at texaco over the other side of town there is a housing estate no less than 15 metres away and it is not a problem . Yes this was built many years ago .

CyberSecurity

Hamilton Hiller wrote: »

There was a showing the other night and the agents gave the numbers of the remaining units . So you can calculate the amount of houses sold v unsold . Heron and sanderling are sold out . Petrol station plans are being revised to scale down the entire size of the development and omit the fast food aspect . It is quite a substantial size and the road frontage that is fenced off for the petrol station maybe a similar size to the HH site size so maybe scaling back is not a bad thing . But if you look at texaco over the other side of town there is a housing estate no less than 15 metres away and it is not a problem . Yes this was built many years ago .

ah ok. my apologies I thought you were implying that the new units were selling for less than the asking price.... Do you recall the number of remaining units still for sale of the first 20 that went on sale on 18th Feb? Thanks for the update info. Very useful to know.

Hamilton Hiller

CyberSecurity wrote: »

ah ok. my apologies I thought you were implying that the new units were selling for less than the asking price.... Do you recall the number of remaining units still for sale of the first 20 that went on sale on 18th Feb? Thanks for the update info. Very useful to know.

Off the top of my head I can't recall the numbers but it hadn't put people off the x2 end houses closest the petrol station . Maybe they thought there was something to gain having the end houses(maybe bigger gardens) or else the simple fact they could jump the wall for petrol for the lawnmower or a packet of crisp and a can of Fanta from the shop

CyberSecurity

Hamilton Hiller wrote: »

Off the top of my head I can't recall the numbers but it hadn't put people off the x2 end houses closest the petrol station . Maybe they thought there was something to gain having the end houses(maybe bigger gardens) or else the simple fact they could jump the wall for petrol for the lawnmower or a packet of crisp and a can of Fanta from the shop

:):)

Grawns

Hamilton Hiller wrote: »

Off the top of my head I can't recall the numbers but it hadn't put people off the x2 end houses closest the petrol station . Maybe they thought there was something to gain having the end houses(maybe bigger gardens) or else the simple fact they could jump the wall for petrol for the lawnmower or a packet of crisp and a can of Fanta from the shop

It's mind boggling when the risks to health of living near a petrol station are so well documented. On a lighter note they'd only jump the wall for club orange😀

ILikeBoats

Which one is The Heron?
So they sold the last two 4 beds in Guillemot? Good stuff

Hamilton Hiller

ILikeBoats wrote: »

Which one is The Heron?
So they sold the last two 4 beds in Guillemot? Good stuff

The Heron is where the current show house is opp the playground all the houses facing toward the playground . Interesting observation that you park around the corner for the Heron houses

ILikeBoats

Hamilton Hiller wrote: »

The Heron is where the current show house is opp the playground all the houses facing toward the playground . Interesting observation that you park around the corner for the Heron houses

Ah ok.
Yeah the spaces haven't been marked yet so seem to be just used by visitors so far with the actual residents parking on the road outside their houses which is mildly dangerous I think.

Ms Tootsie

ILikeBoats wrote: »

Ah ok.
Yeah the spaces haven't been marked yet so seem to be just used by visitors so far with the actual residents parking on the road outside their houses which is mildly dangerous I think.

Very dangerous, I have seen a few near misses in the evenings. The purpose of no car parking on that road is due to children crossing from the playground and two cars are unable to safely pass when a car is parked outside a house on that road. We were told by the EA when the show house was open that car parking there would be temporary during show house opening hours and all residents would be informed they are required to use the parking bays provided.

Hamilton Hiller

CyberSecurity wrote: »

ah ok. my apologies I thought you were implying that the new units were selling for less than the asking price.... Do you recall the number of remaining units still for sale of the first 20 that went on sale on 18th Feb? Thanks for the update info. Very useful to know.

Numbers 15-22-23-26-28-30 remains

Hamilton Hiller

Ms Tootsie wrote: »

Very dangerous, I have seen a few near misses in the evenings. The purpose of no car parking on that road is due to children crossing from the playground and two cars are unable to safely pass when a car is parked outside a house on that road. We were told by the EA when the show house was open that car parking there would be temporary during show house opening hours and all residents would be informed they are required to use the parking bays provided.

Bad planning that with a new estate that they do not have parking at the front of the house . Everyone has two cars these days and then visitors . Cars will be left out the front of the Heron houses after awhile . You see the same problem on the entrance into Kelly's bay along the promenade houses . Once the houses are sold .. the EA won't be back making sure everyone is parking in their allotted spaces .

FavreWatch

Folks, apologies for going off topic slightly but are there any forums or info regarding The Links? Looking to know more about the estate/ if there is social housing or if the Developer paid a contribution not to and any other details around it. Can't seem to find anything online.

Trying to weigh up Barnagearah and The Links

Thanks!

CyberSecurity

FavreWatch wrote: »

Folks, apologies for going off topic slightly but are there any forums or info regarding The Links? Looking to know more about the estate/ if there is social housing or if the Developer paid a contribution not to and any other details around it. Can't seem to find anything online.

Trying to weigh up Barnagearah and The Links

Thanks!

any new estate post september 2015 has a 10% allocation of social housing and the developer has no option to pay a contribution. Check the planning for The Links (Ballygossan Park), not sure when planning was submitted for this development?

Barnageeragh Cove, is exempt as developer paid contribution way back...new phase of Hamilton Hill is just an extension of original application ( as advised by Fingal Planning Dept)

Skerries on Boards ...best I could find

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057486554

ILikeBoats

Hamilton Hiller wrote: »

Cars will be left out the front of the Heron houses after awhile . You see the same problem on the entrance into Kelly's bay along the promenade houses .

Yeah I agree.
I know the Kelly's Bay road as a friend lives in there, very annoying!

FavreWatch wrote: »

are there any forums or info regarding The Links?

I don't think so, start one! My two cents, The Links is a handier location, BCHH has nicer houses.

private

FavreWatch wrote: »

Folks, apologies for going off topic slightly but are there any forums or info regarding The Links? Looking to know more about the estate/ if there is social housing or if the Developer paid a contribution not to and any other details around it. Can't seem to find anything online.

Trying to weigh up Barnagearah and The Links

Thanks!

No social housing. Developer paid a contribution in 2013 or so. I chose the links for the location and the cul de sac layout.

Hamilton Hiller

FavreWatch wrote: »

Folks, apologies for going off topic slightly but are there any forums or info regarding The Links? Looking to know more about the estate/ if there is social housing or if the Developer paid a contribution not to and any other details around it. Can't seem to find anything online.

Trying to weigh up Barnagearah and The Links

Thanks!

I'm In a similar position as to yourself . For what it's worth the Links development 4 bed semi was 100k less than what they are quoting for the 4 beds in Hamilton Hill even doh they have not released a price but they are saying it will be over 435k . The Links 4 bed is 170(ish) sq ft smaller than the HH but for 100k I could live with that and have 20 annual family holidays in the sun for that . The Links 4beds are 348k for 1470 sq ft

Sorry if I'm taking off topic

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Hamilton Hiller wrote: »

I'm In a similar position as to yourself . For what it's worth the Links development 4 bed semi was 100k less than what they are quoting for the 4 beds in Hamilton Hill even doh they have not released a price but they are saying it will be over 435k . The Links 4 bed is 170(ish) sq ft smaller than the HH but for 100k I could live with that and have 20 annual family holidays in the sun for that . The Links 4beds are 348k for 1470 sq ft

Sorry if I'm taking off topic

Unfortunately your prices are way off. The current phase which sold out immediately were priced from 370k to 440k for 4 bed. From 122sqm to 149sqm.

The house that was 1470 sqft ( house type was 440k. No kitchen appliances too&#55357;&#56881;

Hamilton Hiller

private wrote: »

Unfortunately your prices are way off. The current phase which sold out immediately were priced from 370k to 440k for 4 bed. From 122sqm to 149sqm.

The house that was 1470 sqft ( house type was 440k. No kitchen appliances too��

According to the property register number 25 and 27 @ The Links sold for €348,017,62 both type B . 13th Feb and 24th Feb

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Hamilton Hiller wrote: »

According to the property register number 25 and 27 @ The Links sold for €348,017,62 both type B . 13th Feb and 24th Feb

That was ex vat(actual price €390,000) and from a prior phase in 2016..Prices went up more than 10% for recent February launch.

athtrasna

Can we get back to Barnageeragh Cove discussion please?

Mod

FavreWatch

athtrasna wrote: »

Can we get back to Barnageeragh Cove discussion please?

Mod

No problem, il setup a separate thread to find out a little more information. Thanks

bailey1234

Hi there, first time on here, have bought one of the new builds in Hamilton hill,

According to our solicitor our contracts arrived on 24th March and when he sent back pre contract enquiries they were very quick to reply back which is good. we weren't told about the Petrol station or what was on the site on day show homes opened. I then asked what was planned for the site then estate agent said "oh a filling station". Not sure i would have been told either!
Has anyone else got contracts yet or have any worries about their contract and certain clauses in it?

Hamilton Hiller

Show house opened tomorrow evening 6pm-6.30pm if anyone needs a look around

CyberSecurity

Few progress pics for anyone interested

CyberSecurity

bailey1234 wrote: »

Hi there, first time on here, have bought one of the new builds in Hamilton hill,

According to our solicitor our contracts arrived on 24th March and when he sent back pre contract enquiries they were very quick to reply back which is good. we weren't told about the Petrol station or what was on the site on day show homes opened. I then asked what was planned for the site then estate agent said "oh a filling station". Not sure i would have been told either!
Has anyone else got contracts yet or have any worries about their contract and certain clauses in it?

my solicitor received contracts almost 2 weeks ago now.... haven't queried anything on it to date...interested to hear if anyone did query anything on contract and got a reply back with clarifications....

SydneySyder

Awesome Pics @cybersecurity! Just received our contracts yesterday!

Hamilton Hiller

Two houses remain off the 1st launch and show house ready the weekend of the 27th May for the three & four bedroom

CyberSecurity

Has anybody inquired about management fees for the estate?
I assume there are none , but just checking.

ILikeBoats

None for the houses, just the duplexes and apartments

CyberSecurity

few pics of how the gardens are shaping up

CyberSecurity

last one

CyberSecurity

curbing down

Ms Tootsie

I noticed planning permission posted at the entrance of the BC site for a creche - does anyone know where in the development they are hoping to build it?

ILikeBoats

It's going on the little patch of grass to the right of the entrance road, right beside the school, in front of the new guillemot houses. Top quality diagram attached! :pac:

I thought it was going in across from the playground, beside the duplexes at the entrance to the Sanderling but I was wrong.

Ms Tootsie

Thanks for this ILikeBoats. I couldnt work it out from the listing posted.

Ms Tootsie

Also any idea what creche it is going to be?

ILikeBoats

No idea. I'd imagine it goes out to tender. Same with the doctor's surgery.

ILikeBoats

Further documents here:

http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00546773.pdf

http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00546771.pdf

http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00546768.pdf

http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00546760.pdf

yannakis

Here's the application details too http://planning.fingalcoco.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayURL?theApnID=F17A/0064

Hamilton Hiller

ILikeBoats wrote: »

It's going on the little patch of grass to the right of the entrance road, right beside the school, in front of the new guillemot houses. Top quality diagram attached! :pac:

I thought it was going in across from the playground, beside the duplexes at the entrance to the Sanderling but I was wrong.

And to the left hand side as you look at the photo on the opposite side of the road there is a plaza of shops to go in too

ILikeBoats

I know that's on the original plans. Not sure is it really necessary? Skerries Point would be sufficient you'd think.

Hamilton Hiller

ILikeBoats wrote: »

I know that's on the original plans. Not sure is it really necessary? Skerries Point would be sufficient you'd think.

More than enough room in Skerries Point but it's all down to revenue and maximising revenue from every yard of the development. Also these plazas have a maintenance charge on the units and these are a very lucrative nest egg to developers later on when retiring .

The earlier apartments built had a varying service charge from 1k-1.3k depending on sq footage so it's a good indication of the money being generated by service charges on both commercial and residential developments .

talldub

ILikeBoats wrote: »

It's going on the little patch of grass to the right of the entrance road, right beside the school, in front of the new guillemot houses. Top quality diagram attached! :pac:

I thought it was going in across from the playground, beside the duplexes at the entrance to the Sanderling but I was wrong.

Impressive, the kids will stink from the sewage treatment plant 20 meters away.

Ms Tootsie

talldub wrote: »

Impressive, the kids will stink from the sewage treatment plant 20 meters away.

Actually I live nearby and in 6 months have only ever faintly got a bad smell once when the wind was particularly strong.